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Dragon Age 2: PC vs. Xbox 360 - No Better Graphics For PC-Fanboys

Dragon Age 2 is coming to PC, Xbox 360 and PS3. If you want to play it now, download the demo. Here's a quick graphcis comparison between PC and Xbox 360. And no, there are no big differences. Sorry, PC-Guys.

MegaMohsi4828d ago

ok, small screenshots prove nothing. Performance wise 60fps+ on PC vs consoles 30, resolutions up to 2500x1660 vs 720p native? Bioware game as well so you know PC will have improved textures/lighting etc so this "comparison" is dumb.

imvix4828d ago (Edited 4828d ago )

While the comparison is dumb, console fans are overlooking one very important point, if games wont be pushing hardware. Which is the recent trend with most games out. They seem to run fine with 2-3 years old hardware since they are designed with consoles in mind first. All of us know how old console tech is.

Most games on current mid range hardware runs at 2560*1600 with 4x-8x aa, lets be honest here not many PC gamers will be using those resolutions. Most gamers will be at 1080p which is a cake walk.

It will lead to people not needing upgrades, it already has for anyone whos bought a well balanced PC in the last few years and hasnt decided to go multi screen gaming. It will lead to a decline in sales for comapanies like AMD and Nvidia. Which will mean less research going in toward future hardware and may result in an overall stagnation of tech.

There were recent rumors of an AMD sell out. If such a thing does happen it wont be pretty for any of us gamers be it Nvidia or AMD. If the tech from these companies becomes unavailable, console makers will need to invest billions to create tech for the next console and still may not be able to deliver the kind of chips we have from these GPU makers today.

Imo the games market becoming stagnant and not taking advantage of hardware can lead to bad things. Console fanboys who think otherwise should think again.

Bear_Grylls4828d ago

Lets not forget that modern GPU's can overide game settings and force higher than normal graphics (AA, minimap, normal map etc.)

There will be better graphics on my PC regardless of what this dude says. Being in full HD alone will make the PC version look better.

HURP A DERP article.

jeseth4828d ago

Who really cares about the graphics? On a nice computer I'm sure they'll be tighter if someone has the right setup. A game like Dragon Age is so much more than graphics.

I'm a console player and I admit I am envious of the mouse/keyboard controls that a CPU has. It is much easier to access spells, skills, and items.

IMO that is where PC has over the 2 console versions.

Kazu0 Hirai4828d ago

imvix, take a look at the new battlefield 3 gameplay trailer and you will see you don't have to worry about devs not taking advantage of hardware :)

Christopher4828d ago (Edited 4828d ago )

Regardless of the initial graphical quality (something tells me they set the PC up with low to mid-level quality graphics as it is), the one thing we can expect with DA2 on the PC are community mods that will make this game shine like no other version of it.

@imvix: They've already stated that the toolset used to make DA2 is very similar to DA:O and that they would do what it takes to update the community toolset to work with DA2. Even then, the community can already use the same toolset for graphical enhancements.

imvix4828d ago

I dont think they have released mod tools for the game. They would rather sell DLCs. Its the reason why devs prefer forcing people onto consoles. Its easy to make console gamers buy DLC after DLC. PC gamers actually demand freedom to create their own content which extends the life of a game.

ct034828d ago

Blow these shots up to fullscreen and compare against native 1080p with 8xAA. Then tell me again that there's no difference.

Bijorn4828d ago

Plus the demo is in Direct X 9, the full game will be available in Direct X 11

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solar4828d ago

Da:O on PC looked leaps and bounds better then the console versions. why would the 2nd be any different?

Substance1014828d ago

Because the first 1 didnt run well on consoles, it had frame rate issues on the PS3 (because PS3 version offered better textures), while Xbox had good frame rate it had poor textures. In a word there was compromise on both the consoles. PC version was the best overall version.

Since the Consoles couldnt handle the first game well they decided to dumb it down in terms of graphics.

Baka-akaB4828d ago

what the hell are you talking about ? It wasnt dumbed down from the first game . The first game didnt look better at all , and consoles have enough games that look far better than DAO anyway .

The only difference is DAo was optimized like crap on consoles , while the second one fares better

ct034828d ago

<<The first game didn't look better at all>>

Graphically speaking, it's much better than both console builds. Curiously, the PC version's .ini files even include resolution settings, suggesting that the textures on PS3 and Xbox 360 are just 25 per cent of the size compared to the PC build when it's running in "high" mode. As you can see from the comparison gallery, the cutbacks to texture quality on both console builds have been quite severe.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Baka-akaB4828d ago (Edited 4828d ago )

@ct03
I dont get you point , i'm talking about DAO vs DA2 .

I dont need to be told something as obvious as pc run it better than consoles .
He is basically saying that DA2 looks worse than DAO because consoles couldnt handle DAO .
Wich is ridiculous

Motorola4828d ago

VERY HIGH settings DX11 on the demo is LOCKED on PC. Jeez thats why they look similar

hassi944827d ago

It isn't on mine? :S I can run very high with DX11, mind you it's a little buggy and I'm only getting like 15-20 fps.

I still don't think there's much difference, but I did play it on my PC yesterday and my Xbox today so maybe I can't tell having not seen them side by side. But tbh if you need to see them side by side to see a noticeable difference, the differences aren't noticeable at all.

solar4828d ago

also, the PC v. console versions had different gameplay.

gillri4828d ago (Edited 4828d ago )

yeah we know that up-to-date PC hardware is a waste of money, oh unless you consider playing at resolutions that do virtually nothing but make it look 'a bit cleaner' is worth almost a generation difference in hardware

but of course PC hardware whores will fill this topic with worthless number crunching that noone cares about but the people that waste their money on attaining it

oh my godz! teh 2560 res, only teh 720P........WHO CARES!!

If im gonna upgrade my PC it'l be when the next gen of consoles come out cause only then will PC's hardware get utilised anything close to what console's do

it these people that ruin the industry by focusing on technical aspects and numbers instead of good and consistent visual design, which has in part lead to PC gamings current state

Bear_Grylls4828d ago (Edited 4828d ago )

If your a defeatist communist maybe lol.

EDIT:

Only if you are content with second best gaming and the next console day 1 will still only be second best.

gillri4828d ago (Edited 4828d ago )

yes I have my moments

I also play PC games but im not a moronic number crunching elitist PC fanboy, concerned with justifying money spent on hardware that simply isnt needed

I upgrade when I feel it is REALLY needed, and until the next gen of console's come out........it isnt

TABSF4828d ago (Edited 4828d ago )

If you want to go on money wasted

I have a PC with 260 Steam games and counting
I have a PS3 with about 20 games and counting
I have a 360 with about 15 games and counting
I have a Wii with about 10 games and counting
and so on

My PC system all together comes to about £1600 and games about £1100.
My PS3 was £425 and £300 because of YLOD and games about £900.

So my PC is about £2700 (including 260+ games)
So my PS3 is about £1625 (including < 20 games)

I got 10 of thousands of hours out of my PC and I use it everyday for at least 4 hours for leisure. Plus its never failed
I got probably less than 1 thousand hours out of my PS3 and I only use it for exclusives and PlayTv. Plus I've had 1 fail on me.

Not even going to mention the 360 and Wii, rarely play exclusives on both, and usually get the 360 ones on PC anyway.

Oh and its the same yet PC is DirectX 11 and Consoles are DirectX 9 and OpenGL 2.0

Motorola4828d ago

You are CORRECT. AND to add to it, Very High settings on the PC demo is DISABLED for some reason so we cant see the true potential

radphil4828d ago

"but of course PC hardware whores will fill this topic with worthless number crunching that noone cares about but the people that waste their money on attaining it "

Here's a question: Where the **** are you when there's the console comparison articles then?

Liber8or4828d ago

Would also like to add the point that the PC demo does NOT have all GFX options available. It clearly states that DX11 features have been disabled for the demo.

Fail article is full of fail.

Bear_Grylls4828d ago

Well HURP A DERP to the noob of a reviewer.

TABSF4828d ago (Edited 4828d ago )

Except PC can be played at 7680 by 1600 (6 times 1080p - 12 times 720p)
Except PC can be played at 8xSSaa, 32xMSaa and 16xQaa
Except PC can be played at 16x AF
Except Mods for textures and graphics tweaks.

Plus all the community made content for extra weapons and maps and quests.

Bear_Grylls4828d ago (Edited 4828d ago )

People always forget about GPU individual application settings and how they can overide game settings.

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EA Made Dragon Age and Mass Effect DLC Free On PC By Retiring The BioWare Points System

Immersed Gamer writes: "In order to replace the oppressive BioWare Points system, EA is making a large portion of the Mass Effect and Dragon Age DLC catalogs free for PC users.

For those of you blissfully unaware, EA and BioWare employed a payment system called BioWare Points on PC to pay for DLCs for titles like Mass Effect and Dragon Age. While PC gamers have been struggling with BioWare point’s unfair conversion rates and extremely scarce and cost-detrimental sales.

Console players have been allowed to purchase content in pieces through the appropriate Sony and Microsoft shops. For real money, and not BioWare monopoly bucks. In turn, console players missed out on some DLC content, such as Mass Effect 2 pre-order bonuses that have been repackaged into a DLC pack."

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TinkerNation667d ago

Great response to Ubisoft and their disgusting behavior. Ubisoft decide to take away DLC from people who paid for it, while EA give it for free to everyone when they realize their system sucks. Who would have thought that EA of all companies would be showing Ubisoft how it should be done (even if this is EA fixing their own mistakes as well).

Mobis-New-Nest667d ago

What goes around comes around and I promise you, Ubisoft will see their actions blow back on them when their diminishing sales numbers and stock taking a hit downward. That's the only way a company learns when they decide to be reactive instead of proactive.

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All BioWare Games Ranked from Worst to Best

BLG writes: "There was a time that BioWare games were the biggest deal in gaming. The Canadian developer’s legacy of all-time classics is well known. Mass Effect, Knights of the Old Republic, and Baldur’s Gate are some of the biggest names in gaming.

While BioWare’s quality has fallen off lately, there’s no denying the quality of titles in their portfolio. That’s why we’re going to dive in and rank every BioWare game from worst to best. By every, I do mean every BioWare game, even the ones you completely forgot about!"

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Orbilator826d ago

Ranked from worse to even more worse more like, they been on free fall for a fair few years now and I personally don't think any of there earlier games have aged well

autobotdan826d ago

Wow to think at one point in their history they made a Sonic the Hedgehog game..crazy

chicken_in_the_corn826d ago

Anthem is crazy underrated. I really enjoyed it. ME1 is Bioware's best imo

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Michiel1989826d ago

I actually put quite a bit of hours into Anthem but i dont think its underrated. It was a huge mess, server issues, gameplay issues, crashes, no endgame loop, too few different enemies, uninteresting gear. too few dungeons.

It for sure had potential and if they could have managed to keep the same gameplay of the classes but without the rest of the issues, this game could have been huge, but in the state in which it launched it was such a letdown. They partly fixed some of the issues, but it took too long. A grinding game like this needs to hook players from day 1.

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'Dragon Age' and Why It Sucks to Play Cult Favorite Games

Delving into a well-loved game or series years after its release, when it already has an enthusiastic and devoted fanbase, can be incredibly difficult. People can be casually mean on the internet without intending to, and that happens a lot when you say you don’t like something they do. Fans of the franchise take their love of the game very seriously. They’re fervent and devoted, which has its charms, but it can also feel like you’re disappointing them when you decide their thing is not your thing.

Snakeeater25949d ago

All dragon age games are terribly boring

Kerppamaister949d ago

Why'd you play DA2 if you thought 1 was boring?

Snakeeater25949d ago

Because of the reviews, I thought they could do better specially gameplay wise and the third one was even worst

spss11949d ago

I've never been able to complete a Dragon Age game. They always felt too rigid in design. I eventually think "why am I playing this over Witcher 3?" or pretty much any other rpg.

arkard949d ago

The same reason you read a different book, or watch different movies. Different world, characters, lore and story.

jeromeface949d ago

Idk, because maybe you completed the witcher 3? Not all of us like repeating a game over and over just because its the best in genre.

spss11949d ago (Edited 949d ago )

@arkard
Never found the story or lore of DA interesting. Inquisition was just generic evil dude with demon army wants to conquer world and you're the chosen one.

@jeromeface
I've played through Witcher 3 once, at the same time I was playing DA Inquisition. Hence the example. I never finished Inquisition and went on to complete Witcher 3.

Yui_Suzumiya949d ago (Edited 949d ago )

Well the first bored me but I loved 2 and 3. I could never get into The Witcher or Elder Scrolls but I enjoyed those as far as medieval themed RPG's go.

SegaSaturn669949d ago

I played inquisition and thought the story was pretty well done. Voice acting as well.

Lost interest when i found an ultimate weapon that could only be wieldable postgame. Like wtf would they let me even obtain it for?

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phoenixwing949d ago

Is it really a cult following if it's in the millions?

IanTH949d ago (Edited 949d ago )

lol Definitely a fair point. When a game is made and published by one of the largest video game companies on Earth, has at least 12 million sales between DA:O/DA2/DA:I, DA:I noted as being BioWare's most successful launch, and made EA enough money to greenlight a 3rd game? I'm thinking it's tough to argue that's niche :-p

If you take cult following on the face of it - a group of people who are highly dedicated & passionate about something - the author wouldn't be wrong. But they have to know that term is most widely associated with the group being small/the object being obscure, so it can't really apply here.

melons949d ago

Yeah, in what universe is a series with three games, a fourth on the way that's sold millions and is published by EA a "cult favorite"? Next you'll be telling me The Witcher 3 is a plucky and underrated indie.

IanTH948d ago

I've heard about this hidden gem called GTA V...

jznrpg949d ago (Edited 949d ago )

Cult favorite? It’s well known and sold fairly well and they are making a fourth game . I don’t see it anywhere near cult favorite status . I really enjoyed the first game and the third was pretty good (with failed mmo faults you could notice) but the second game was lazily made garbage .

Yui_Suzumiya949d ago

Second was the best game which is the biggest hot take I've ever had, lol

ElvisHuxley949d ago (Edited 949d ago )

Loved the first one, second was pretty good. Couldn't even get through the third one. Don't have high hopes for 4, but hey, nowhere to go but up hopefully.

moomoo319949d ago (Edited 949d ago )

DA: Origins was cool, but I got Mass Effect 2 at the same time and goddayum there was no comparison imo.

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