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You Can Soon Save Your PS3 Games In Thin Air

Via Kotaku: "Kotaku has learned that, earlier today, Sony informed developers of a new feature for the PlayStation 3: the ability to save games in the "cloud"."

ActionBastard4852d ago (Edited 4852d ago )

Hell. Yes. PS+ is so worth it. Games, discounts, exclusive access to betas and demos, and now cloud gave save storage. Now that's a service that actually gives you something.

Xulap4852d ago

Agreed. PlayStation Plus keeps paying for itself. This sounds amazing.

Well, actually.. It payed for itself a while back. Everything from the 2nd month onward is a bonus for me.

I'm a really happy PS+ member.

I_find_it_funny4851d ago (Edited 4851d ago )

Not yet PS+ member, I hope this includes all the locked saves.
And that what Im lookinf for before signing for +, I want features not discounts , good move Sony

JoySticksFTW4851d ago

The article says that it does include copy protected games, but goes on to say that devs can opt out of cloud saving

Like I said before, my 60gb is long in the tooth. So I just bought a slim mainly to transfer over my copy protected saves like Demons' Souls that I already put hundreds of hours into.

It would be crazy to let devs opt out of this feature, if this is true

I really can't think of an acceptable scenario in which a dev should refuse to let their game be saved with this service

If anyone knows a reason, please share because my feeble mind can't come up with one

hakis864851d ago

JoySticks:
You bought a Slim because of the HFF space? Why didn't you just get a 320GB HDD for 50$ and put it in your first PS3? It doesn't break the warranty.

Shikoro4851d ago

He bought a new Slim to transfer his saves in case his old 60GB dies on him. Get it now? :)

JoySticksFTW4851d ago

What Shikoro said.

Unfortunately, there are some game saves that are copy protected and cannot be transfered to memory cards

The only way to save them from being lost before your older system dies, is to use the transfer data utility to move all data including copy protected saves to a newer system

This may change though, if what this article says is true.

Kevin ButIer4851d ago

That image... PSN is heaven

ComboBreaker4851d ago (Edited 4851d ago )

"It's a bird!"
"It's a plane!"
"No, it's Playstation, man!"

Saving the world of games in the cloud.

Wada of Square Enix: "With saving in the Cloud, gamers can finally save Aries from Sephiroth, in the sky."

Gamers: "That doesn't even make any sense..."

Ravenor4851d ago

Yeah, paying for discounts is AWESOME.

ActionBastard4851d ago

Good thing it's not just discounts Ravenor, as the story clearly states. Go back to paying for the privilege of playing with buds and leave the next-gen stuff to Sony.

SeanRL4851d ago

To the cloud!

Wait a minute....

Ravenor4851d ago

@actionbastarrd

If only I paid for XBL, then your comment would have stung. You like the idea of having to pay to get into beta's and the privilege to play a demo? Worse enough that a lot of games don't launch with a demo, but PAYING? Ridiculous, what you people are willing to pay for, it's absolutely ridiculous.

As others have stated, Steam has had Steam Cloud for ages and most major free Email providers give you loads of space for images and other things all for free. This isn't new, and it's certainly not worth paying money for.

DragonKnight4851d ago

@Ravenor: Cosco has been doing it forever and seems to work. People like to pay for what they feel is value to them. In PS+ case it's exclusive access to betas, early access to demos, game trials, etc.. Maybe some people think that that's stupid to pay for, just like paying a store to give you discounts on products, but they find merit in it so... what are you going to do about it?

Oh I know, degrade people for it. Yeah, that'll change their minds for sure.

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HolyOrangeCows4852d ago (Edited 4852d ago )

Does it include copy-protected save files? Because I can't back up all of mah gaem savez :(

duplissi4852d ago

i know this is heretic talk here... but if you jailbreak your system then you can copy your saves.

deadreckoning6664852d ago (Edited 4852d ago )

@duplissi- Not even...u can go the even simpler route and just backup your game saves on a $10 usb stick or memory stick pro duo.

Don't get me wrong, this is a cool feature for PS Plus users, but it ain't gunna convert me. Until Sony creates an "all you can eat" subscription service for movies and tv shows..they won't be getting a yearly fee from me.

multipayer4851d ago

I think duplissi meant you can break the copy protected saves, that can't be saved to usb...

Cloud isn't something I'd want tied up in a subscription service anyway, what if I stop paying? There goes all my saves...

tigertron4851d ago

If it does then I'll subscribe to PS +

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fucadastates4852d ago

loving the auto update/downloade thing that comes with psplus. havent downloaded a patch in ages.. the ps3 does it for me, when i sleep :)

Christopher4851d ago

Man, get this done now! I want my saves always saved in a cloud.

PS3 crashes? Whatever, I've got all the saves I need stored off the PS3 and quickly rotate in another.

thesummerofgeorge4851d ago (Edited 4851d ago )

Sounds cool, but wouldn't that mean you'd have to be online to access your saves? I would be worried that I wouldn't be able to play my games if I couldn't get a connection for whatever reason.

Edit:Now that I think about it, I suppose I do have tons of saves for games I haven't played in a while, so I can see it being really useful for files you aren't using but don't wanna get rid of.

ChrisW4851d ago

Yeah... but on PC STEAM which gives awesome demos, discounts, and what not... Cloud is free.

kwicksandz4851d ago

yup but console gamers dont seem to mind being nickle and dimed by their favourite manufacturer for some reason.

Ravenor4851d ago (Edited 4851d ago )

This always comes to mind when I see people praising PS+.

Not all good things HAVE to cost money.

Discounts aren't worth a subscription, and 95% of the free stuff I'm not interested in playing. I have a PS1 for PS1 games, I don't need them on the hard drive too.

Carlos_Irwin_Estevez4851d ago

Get this, its optional......

and its a great option, its not a needed aspect like steams cloud because almost everyone has more than one pc.

It should have been supported by all steam games from day 1 imo.

WhiteNoise4851d ago

@Action Bastard

Yeah man, it does the same things as steam, except steam is free...

For the price of PSN+ you could buy a few games a year which you get to keep..

Steam has matchmaking services, achievements, game store, media viewing and trailer downloads etc, free demo's, beta's, DLC support, cloud storage, and anti cheat.

People need to stop praising and paying for features that have been free on PC for years.

FinalSpartan4851d ago

what kind of pointless feature is this? saving games into a server on the internet?

1. You can backup your files using extrenal hhh
2. You can backup your files using a large USB thumbstick

depending on what they mean by games? Gamesaves ? LOOOL they so small and take no space at all. Full PSN games? Can be saved onto the above.

This is pointless , the space provided in nowaydays PS3 is enough. For everything as installs and such. I have 180GB. Thats why more then enough.

Give us stuff like

party chat
cross game invite

real features.

Oh what happens when server goes down? server gets hacked lol

FinalSpartan4851d ago

oh it is for saves haha ridiculous and also for PSN+ members only haha who would buy that garbage just for that.

bananlol4851d ago

Newer ps3 games already use a unified invite system. And i believe that if you are in a text chat lobby these invites will go out to everyone in the lobby, so in a sense the ps3 already have a party system. Just lacks the voice part:(

y0haN4851d ago

"Hell. Yes. PS+ is so worth it. Games, discounts, exclusive access to betas and demos, and now cloud gave save storage. Now that's a service that actually gives you something."

You get all those, for free, on Steam.

solar4851d ago

you shouldnt have to pay money for those features Action. those are features you should get for buying Sony's hardware. along with Xbox Live should be free. anyone who pays for that is insase.

Geralt4851d ago

Worth it? This is what Steam has been giving for years, totally free.

thorstein4850d ago

Right.... on PCs. And we are getting Steam too!!!! SO if you aren't PS+ you're still good.

thorstein4850d ago

This is PURE WIN!!

I guess PSN has finally ecliPS3d the competition. (see what I did there???)

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eggbert4852d ago

interesting. Save a bit o space It seems.

PSplus only PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTT TTTTTTT

Nitrowolf24852d ago (Edited 4852d ago )

Well i wouldn't expect something like this to be free, i have tons of game saves on MY PS3. And with so many other users who do to, this has to be costly for them to maintain that many saves.
Another reason why people should go for Plus.

I'm hoping this eventually evolves into more then just gamesaves over time.
Maybe next generation or so.

The way i see it, PS3 is a testing ground for PSN for next generation console.

coldfoot4852d ago

I bet all your game saves would take up less space than a demo download like ME2 or Bulletstorm.

Darkfocus4852d ago

steam does this for free....

Neo Nugget4851d ago

Not on every game though, right?

Amplitude4851d ago (Edited 4851d ago )

@Neo Nugget:

Lol nah he's right Steam does do it for free for every single game. xD Keeps track of your exact saves for every game, your play time, last time played, etc.
But it's still definitely awesome.

In all seriousness it SHOULD be free. I mean, 100 game saves most likely would not take up more space than 20 pictures or so, and yet photobucket remains free.
And then yeah Steam cloud saves are free.
Even Microsoft has cloud storage on hotmail where you can upload up to 25 gigabytes of files for free. It's called Skydrive. Pretty sure Google has it as well.

But whatever. I already have plus, and i fully intend on using this since i constantly travel to people's houses and need to repeatedly transfer saves from ps3 to memory stick to other ps3 to memory stick back to my ps3.
Super annoying haha

Kewl_Kat4851d ago

@Darkfocus, PS+ isn't charging just for the cloud save feature. The feature is part of the many benefits PS+ offers.

Darkfocus4851d ago

it's not free if it's part of a service your paying for...they should just give it to all ps3 owners game saves are ridiculously small anyway...

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Nitrowolf24852d ago (Edited 4852d ago )

title a bit misleading
anyway
Bout dam time
Now i have something to look forward to in a FW update.
However i am under the impression that it has to be activated by the developers first
"Sony informed developers of a new feature for the PlayStation 3: the ability to save games in the "cloud"."
idk maybe its just letting them know, which means that they might enforce more locked Gamesaves (not good for people offline).

Either way, this is really good news. A feature thats been requested for some time now.

Cloud Storage>>>>> Cross Game Chat
Still would be nice to add later on in the year. I'm hoping we see some of those NGP Apps make it to PS3.

Checkmate4851d ago

my question is what if you're a PSN+ user and have saved games on their servers and then you decide to cancel PSN+? do you lose all of your saves??

saladthieves4851d ago

No, I'm pretty sure if that is what happens, then it is a wrong move by Sony. I think that your saves will stay in the cloud, but something tells me that if you want the back, you have to re-subscribe your PSN+ account.

BARF4851d ago (Edited 4851d ago )

"Cloud Storage>>>>> Cross Game Chat"

not even close. party chat is great. i dont know why ps3 kids hate on it so much??? i could care less about this online storage bs compared to party chat. i like to be able to communicate with my friends during games without random people throwing in their two scents. also party chat helps to avoid those outrageous arguing matches in lobbies. give me party chat so i never have to pay for live agan. if sony added party chat to ps+, it would sell like crazy (i pay for + now as it is).

BARF4851d ago

"throwing in their two CENTS" - fixed lol.

had to do that before a grammar nazi came after me.

danmachine4851d ago

the expression is COULDN'T CARE less not could care less. has the whole world gone mad?

trounbyfire4852d ago (Edited 4852d ago )

eat your words haters PS3 is the future...wait the future is now

yeah

and doesn't portal 2 have cloud storage so yeah this is one step closer to psp2 and ps3 being husband and wife.

play uncharted on your ps3 then save to cloud. go out and play uncharted by getting your saves from online then again and again

ALFAxD_CENTAURO4852d ago (Edited 4852d ago )

When is the Wedding?

Because PSN and Steam they have a Matrimony already:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

trounbyfire4851d ago

i know but this has to do with the NGP like i said it means more than storage

see my comment on #10

jizzyjones4852d ago

Sounds like STEAM, o wait steamworks arrives when Portal2 does.......3.60 in prep for Portal2 it is then.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers16d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken15d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g16d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing16d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H916d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola16d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66916d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle16d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg17d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos17d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola16d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies37d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken37d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga37d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken37d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6437d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long36d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197236d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic36d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12537d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91337d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer37d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91336d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit36d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher37d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6936d ago (Edited 36d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit36d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher37d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken37d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197236d ago (Edited 36d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic36d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2337d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218337d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder37d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts37d ago

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