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Sony Vs Sony: The #1 Console Is Finally Revealed

Playstation 3 over the years has proven that no negative press from Journalist, Rival Systems, or Consumers can stop them from being number one.

This article goes into extreme detail on the rise, the fall, and the rise again of Sony's Playstation 3.

This Company Is In A League Of Their Own

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NYC_Gamer4872d ago (Edited 4872d ago )

Sony has held the crown too long and haters are upset

Hitman07694872d ago (Edited 4872d ago )

I know everyone is going to say I'm bias or fanboy or something when I say this but let's be real just because you have a favorite this gen doesn't make you a fanboy. I loved the Xbox1 last gen a lot and I just feel that PS3 is amazing this gen. That's just the bottom line.

Anybody claiming all systems are equal is just a neutrality fanboy.

Great show as always HHG, you always back up your arguments with sound research and knowledge. Anybody considering dropping a hate comment, check out the vidicle first.

@deadreckoning666

good point!!

Raendom4872d ago

Don't really disagree with you at all but LOL'd when you said "neutrality fanboy". XD

Lamarthedancer4872d ago (Edited 4872d ago )

neutrality fanboy.....

No it's called appreciating all systems and noticing the advantages and disadvantages of each one.

EDIT: Disagrees...for what it's true the whole point of not being an Xbox/PS3 fanboy is because we can love both systems for what they can bring out and admit when Sony/Microsoft have done wrong. For example Sonys Europe PSN store is a mess...Microsoft should stick to core titles and should of had a better line up for 2011

DigitalAnalog4872d ago

No matter what, a person would ALWAYS have bias towards a certain product no matter if has all options or one.

For instance, I have 360, PS3, Wii and PC:

However, I'm not afraid to admit that I'm biased towards the PS3 first due to the exclusive games. I don't put fake titles like

"in the name of the righteous gamers who owns all consoles and appreciates all games from all systems, I AM, THE UNDISPUTED TRUE GAMER WHO SEES THINGS EQUALLY"

-End of Line

darthv724872d ago (Edited 4872d ago )

i dont hate my ps3 to insult it. It gets played with great games like GoW, KZ and motorstorm (love that game).

There are some who may have both but will go to the extreme to voice their distaste for the lesser of the two. Why do that? If you have both and play both then just join the club.

Insulting one to make another look better is not the way to go from a multi console point of view. That is the stuff one sided gamers do.

ImmortalLegend4872d ago

I think people are disagreeing with you because they're pissed that they can't afford both systems lol. It's okay guys really. Stick to your console of choice and defend it like your life depended on it.

Kurt Russell4871d ago (Edited 4871d ago )

I think Sony has held the crown for a good reason. They've produced the best consoles for the last few generations... Everyone of them I admit I have poo poo'ed before finally trying out, but time and time they have proven their strengths and at the same time myself being wrong and too quick to judge.

However, they are falling from grace and have the most irritating dick head fanbase out of all the consoles. Don't get me wrong, Microsoft have their own breed of dickhead (myself included)... but fuck me - 60% of this website need to stop riding their own dicks get a life, and let someone else take your cocks saddle.

Before I get labelled an xbox fanboy - I hardly think highly of their dicking about straining every penny from the consumer ways either... All I am saying is SEGA guys... SEGA - The market fell with that company and you know it.

BigPenguin4871d ago

Anyone who says they have all 3 systems, and also says they like them all equally, has lied about owning all 3.

cochise3134871d ago (Edited 4871d ago )

Lol, WTF is a neutrality fanboy? We like different consoles for different reasons.

g0green4871d ago

lolz gotta love how everyone says hiphop gamer is dumbass and has baseless videos until he calls the ps3 the #1 console.

#1 fanboy is revealed not the #1 console

04soldier4871d ago

Bubs up. Intelligent comment.

So many peeps on here are always quick to throw that title in your face.

"I own X amount of current gen consoles and thus can be slated the elite status of a 'TRUE GAMER'

The rest of you are just fanboys because you don't own as many consoles as I own......"

I don't believe you have to buy every console to be considered a unbiased gamer.

Years ago, I did my research on the consoles, watched the exclusive franchises they own and made my decision on one of the three.

colombiankilla014871d ago

I have to agree to the first 75% of the video, after the minute 15 he started to remind me of that crackhead from the Chappelle Show!!

R_aVe_N4871d ago

I don't care what anybody says even if you own all three systems you still have that system that you prefer over the others. For some it with be the 360 and for others it could be the PS3 or Wii. When it comes down to it you haven already chosen what system you support most. I have all three and I will be the first to say I support my PS3 way more than the other two. That does not mean that I don't like the other systems. I love to break out Gears for some mind numbing violence, or play Mario Galaxy on my Wii. The PS3 just has more of the games I want so I tend to spend more money on it.

INehalemEXI4871d ago

When PS3 drops to $199 I will get another. The one I got now is the BC model and it's still quiet and reliable.

That's crazy how much less expensive it will be to get a second too.

Inside_out4871d ago

I couldn't finish watching this clowns video. How or why this guy continues to get any play time anywhere is beyond me...well I KNOW why but still...a more ignorant sounding kid would be harder to find...I'm a 4 ft tall gangster...lol.

There is nothing on PS3 that's the best and after 5 years that still remains the truth. On line, OS, controllers...if your into spending $20 for a copy of a 30 year old movie on blu-ray I guess it's the best.

I have all the consoles this gen...most people do...Sony is the " me too " console this gen trying to do everything and succeeding at nothing. There is to many problems with the system. Just look at the mess that the most popular game this gen, COD, is in on that system...I told a guy at work yesterday and tell everyone that will listen get a 360 S if you want the best gaming experience this gen, otherwise stop telling me about all the problems/glitches in RDR or COD...lol.

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booni34872d ago

@Robsonmonkey

don't waste your complex logic on the inferior minds of the fanboys you see prancing about.

@hitman0769
No.

Loner4872d ago (Edited 4872d ago )

They dont hold shit anymore
They have been in last place since the start of the gen.They held the crown for the previous two generations.Ill give you that much
They are a shell of what they were before this gen

Some funny Sony quotes

"The idea of a handheld rivalry with Nintendo is an irrelevance. Those formats don't appear in our planning. It's not a fair comparison; not fair on them, I should stress. That sounds arrogant, maybe, but it's the truth. With the DS , it's fair to say that Nintendo stepped out of the technical race and went for a feature differentiation with the touch screen. But I fear that it won't have a lasting impact beyond that of a gimmick - so the long-lasting appeal of the platform is at peril as a direct result of that."
- Phil Harrison, president of Sony Worldwide Studios, on comparing PSP to DS in an interview with MCV

"It's probably too cheap..."
- Ken Kutaragi, Regarding the $499 to $599 price point

"(the PS3) is not a game machine..."
- Ken Kutaragi, Regarding the machine's beefy hardware architecture

"The name of the game is not market share, it's how fast we (Sony) can grow the industry."
- Ken Kutaragi, regarding competition from Microsoft and Nintendo

"...for consumers to think to themselves 'I will work more hours to buy one'. We want people to feel that they want it, irrespective of anything else."
- Ken Kutaragi, explaining their marketing goals for the PS3

"We do not care."
- Kaz Hirai, current President of Computer Entertainment, regarding competition from Microsoft and Nintendo

"I don't think the battle would be any different with or without Grand Theft Auto... I don't think it (losing Grand Theft Auto would) hurts us. No, I really don't."
- Jack Tretton, Sony Computer Entertainment America president and CEO

"If you can find a PS3 anywhere in North America that's been on shelves for more than five minutes, I'll give you 1200 bucks for it."
- Jack Tretton, Sony Computer Entertainment America president and CEO

"The first five million are going to buy it (PS3), whatever it is, even [if] it didn't have games."
- David Reeves, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe CEO

"Microsoft does not concern us. Microsoft is not a technology company."
- Nobuyuki Idei, Sony chief corporate adviser in an interview with BBC NEWS

"A bit pricey."
- Michael Ephraim, Managing Director of Sony Computer Entertainment Australia, speaking about Nintendo Wii in an interview with the age.com.au

"We have a lot of respect for Nintendo, but with a December launch, how much stock are they going to get at a AU$400 price point? What is the consumer offering? So I don't think anyone will do more units than a PS2 this (Christmas)."
- Michael Ephraim, Managing Director of Sony Computer Entertainment Australia, regarding the launch of Nintendo Wii

"Sorry you didn't have the opportunity to buy a PS3 this year, but I'm sure it beats lining up in a queue for hours on end only to be told the store has sold out."
- Michael Ephraim, Managing Director of Sony Australia in an interview with the age.com.au

trevonn954872d ago

winning for proper gamers is who has the most quality games winning for companies and fanboys is who sells the most consoles
which one are you?

palaeomerus4872d ago

He's the one throwing all the dumb stuff Sony ever said back in your face because you forgot all about that stuff.

You're the one getting all upset about it and trying to pull the true gamer schtick (very much in vain).

SasanovaS19874872d ago

way to slay yourself loner. everything sony said was on point cept the DS.

ps3 was indeed too cheap when it came out, when compared to how much it was actually worth...900 bucks went into a ps3 that sold at 600. thats too cheap

the ps3 indeed isnt a game machine. its the best entertainment system out. including free internet, blu tooth, blu ray, best games, rechargable controllers, 3D enabled, and so much more.

sony is the leader in gaming industry whether you like it or not, and they know they are easily the most influencial when it comes to evolving in the gaming industry.

ofcourse they want people to work more hours to afford 1. they are saying they want their ps3 to be such a good investment, which it is, that people will happily work more to be able to afford it. because in the end, it will pay off for the bang of their buck.

"we do not care" is a simple true statement for anyone whos in a league of their own. they know their on top and their competition isnt a factor because their sticking to their 10 year plan regardless of what the competition does. because they did the same thing the past 2 generations and guess who ended up on top. their just following their trend.

when did the loss of GTA series ever hurt sony? only thing it did was help Microsoft. it had nothing to do with sony. ok maybe they would have to "better" then they did, but hurting them is out of the question. they still sold over 8 million on the ps3 alone, so "hurting" is an overstatement.

more then 5 minutes isnt even a fact. the guy cant even kidd around anymore with you idiots without being looked upon as ignorant. the guy basically is proud of his system and the features it has, and is very happy to sell it. because he knows you will get top quality.

when the ps3 came out, it sold exactly 5 million. regardless of the 600 dollar price tag. so yes, the first 5 million are most likely most loyal of loyalists, and they want to support their system best they can. completely true statement.

microsoft has never concerned sony. if anything, they were aware they will lose a piece of the pie. microsoft is not a technology company is basically saying microsoft isnt a company that will inevate a product. all they do is copy. not 1 thing microsoft put out was original. why be conserned with a company that follows rather then leads?

Wii is indeed VERY pricey. not maybe by your standards, but know the will doesnt cost but 70 bucks to make, and yet it was sold for the longest at 250. for technology that matched last gen? with tacked on motion controls. any person with a brain would tell you its pricey, overpriced, but cheap enough that it is most affordable of the 3, which lead the casuals towards buying a "system" for the sake of buying it, just to have 1. if your not serious about gaming, why buy anything more expensive then the cheapest alternative?

so...basically loner, your as dumb as they come, a sorry fanboy and a waste of space. go back into your hole and play kinectimals.

Bolts4871d ago

LOL @ all those Sony quotes. I remember them because they made me get in line to pay $600 for the "only 1080p gaming console on the market"

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Christopher4872d ago (Edited 4872d ago )

I hate HHG "articles" since I'm forced to listen to the whole thing. Wish they would release an actual article on the item rather than just videos.

IMHO, we don't have a leader in the industry right now depending on how you look at it.

Nintendo has sold more consoles and their single party titles have sold the most as well. But other than that, they have huge attach rate issues.

Microsoft corners the market on FPS/TPS titles and online gameplay. But, they lack a diverse selection of quality games. Microsoft also now has a hugely casual-oriented accessory that has sold extremely well.

Sony, has a very diverse selection of quality games and they are catching up in attach rate, software sales, and game technology offerings; but they also have the most technology-focused hardware and an open system that has only shown to slow down progress on it as they aren't directing what they want on it through goals but just take things in as they come. Their online hasn't seen vast improvements that are needed to bring it more in line with the top runner, Microsoft. They also have the Move controller but have failed to support it strongly and have after only a few months left it to just sell based on software that we won't see any new software until March and April.

Vames4872d ago

"since I'm forced to listen to the whole thing"

You're not forced, he's not pointing a gun at your head.

Christopher4872d ago

If I want to hear "the article" yeah, I am. I didn't say I didn't want to get the info, I said I didn't want to have to listen to it. Takes too long, has too much crap in it that doesn't matter, and is easy to lose track of their thought process from one point to another versus having written word to reference quickly.

THILLREBORN4871d ago

@cgoodno
You try to play the part of devils advicate but your arguement is as clear as glass.

You say Sony has pretty much dropped the ball with Move...well lets ponder on that for a min...okay your wrong there because to this day there are almost no Move controllers in my Gamestop and I'm there every week...still see the same pile of Kinects and Wii's sitting around.

You say they don't have there online in line...you are so wrong...charging a gamer to play online for no other reason than because you can is wrong and will remain the reason why I refuse to buy a 360...if you come back with you just don't have the money to buy both well your wrong again because my new 55 inch 3D Samsung $4000 TV would disagree.

You push the attach rate but reference Nintendo but last time I checked the only games that have a great attach rate on the Wii are first party...all others do really bad in comparison.

You say that MS has cornered the market on FPS/TPS...I guess you never heard of Killzone 3/Resistance 3/Mag/Uncharted 3 just to name a few...

Now I'm not saying that your attacking the PS3 because your not but what you wrote attempts to paint a picture of Sony and the PS3 being in last place....

If all of you want to talk sales lets look outside of US because for some time now the PS3 has been dominating in Europe and Japan the two other largest gaming markets...

people like MS and Michael Pachter can say that the 360 is doing better than PS3 but they always quote NPD because they know that everywhere else is PS3 land...well maybe not the UK

rant over...haters have been schooled...just kidding

PressStartNow4871d ago

"They also have the Move controller but have failed to support it strongly and have after only a few months left it to just sell based on software that we won't see any new software until March and April."

You must not own the Playstation Move. I have had it since its release and can honestly say that Sony has supported very well. Check your PSN and Disc-based releases and you will see that Sony has released a Move Compatible titles almost every week since launch. Do your homework before you post. Also, I work at Gamestop and we have been sold out of Move for two and a half weeks now and when they do come in they sell the same day.

wu-stix4871d ago

"They also have the Move controller but have failed to support it strongly and have after only a few months left it to just sell based on software that we won't see any new software until March and April. "

January - LBP 2, Dead Space Extraction,
February - Killzone 3.

Christopher4871d ago (Edited 4871d ago )

***okay your wrong there because to this day there are almost no Move controllers in my Gamestop***

What silly logic. How many are currently made versus being purchased? No proof of that. Why? Sony has refused to release numbers. If they were good, Sony would be all over showing us their numbers.

***You say they don't have there online in line...you are so wrong***

Some of the most requested features: cross game voice chat, auto-synching trophies, party chat, faster downloads/installs, tons of PSN-related items.

All things that XBL already provides.

***You push the attach rate but reference Nintendo but last time I checked the only games that have a great attach rate on the Wii are first party***

That's exactly what I said.

***paint a picture of Sony and the PS3 being in last place***

Which I wasn't. I was painting a picture of each company having their strengths and weaknesses. Sony's being in their software and non-proprietary approach that has lead to more software options on the PS3.

Their technology is definitely a strength as well, but only when utilized. This tends to be by 1st parties only, though. For others, it seems to be a weakness since it takes too much work for them to fully utilize the PS3 in comparison to the 360/PC. Kind of the reason we get a lot of muddy looking UE3 games. Not necessarily Sony's fault, but definitely something that affects the quality of games on their consoles (developer desire to place time and money on just the PS3 versus equal on 360/PS3).

***You must not own the Playstation Move. I have had it since its release and can honestly say that Sony has supported very well.***

I actually own Move. Two wands and a subnav controller. I own Sports Champions, MAG, Heavy Rain and Funky Lab Rat. I've demoed all of the other games. I also now own LBP2, but haven't opened it yet (ME2 first).

Now, you have to understand that the majority of the titles out there either support the Move but are not built with it in use or are titles made with full Move support but are lesser games overall. Sports Champions still being the headlining Move game, IMHO.

Sony has not continued this support in many ways. We still do not see the Coca-cola and Subway advertising deals they talked about at E3. They've stopped all commercials of the product. They haven't provided any new Move-specific details, such as new info on Sorcery or other titles coming up. For the last two months, we've heard absolutely nothing new about Move. Nothing.

Even the KZ3 move support information is from last October.

This is the support I'm talking about. If you want to put out a new product, you need to fully support and promote it for a good six months at the least. You need to make it look better and better each day rather than do a month of advertising at release and then wait a few months for some other games that support it to come out.

***January - LBP 2, Dead Space Extraction,
February - Killzone 3. ***

And none of them requiring the Move. In addition, I've yet to see any advertising on TV or in magazines that sell the Move in these games. None. They mention the games, not the peripheral that they say will revolutionize motion gaming.

They need to focus on the device in addition to the games. They need to support it on a level similar to how Microsoft is supporting Kinect. Microsoft may not be throwing new titles out there until April, but they haven't stopped advertising their product and have been advertising it for three months straight now.

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Peppino74872d ago

As much as people can't stand this guy, or at least the way he "reports" video game news, he has a lot of great points. Also, this was his least enthusiastic video I've ever seen. I hope he's not trying to conform to what people want him to be. Nice job HHG.

blackbeld4872d ago

USA $199,- It will be for Europe €199,- then it's WOW. I will buy another for my sleeping room.

twoface4871d ago (Edited 4871d ago )

I disagreed. 360 doesn't give the best gaming experience this gen, and that's the truth.
It's only best if you like 'me-too' products, and that's the truth too.

Hmm..this was supposed to appear in response to 1.1.17 cez of rage's distorted truths

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deadreckoning6664872d ago (Edited 4872d ago )

"Sony vs. Sony"

I like that.

@Hitman0769- Yeah, the PS3 is the best gaming console out there for ME...but I can accept if someone thinks differently from me. It's all opinion.

insomnium24872d ago (Edited 4872d ago )

As long as it's backed up with solid arguments it's all opinion.

I agree with you but just fealt that this needed to be recognized.

I wonder what does the loner up there mean with all those quotes from Sony. That's pretty random stuff and way offtopic too.

acky14872d ago (Edited 4872d ago )

oh thou sony, how I love thee, I want to take you out for dinner, then drive you home to my little trailer where we can spend the hold night together, together forever. Oh sony, how I love thee, you can dominate me, like you've done for years in the industry. <3
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Sony 'til I die

Xfanboy4872d ago

I wonder is the 2 Sony's will sue each other over the name?

Sony & Sony sound very similar..

theonlylolking4872d ago

There is the best gaming console and your favorite console. A best console gives you the most for your money. A favorite console is just your preferred console.

The PS3 gives you the most for the money so its the best console but it does not have to be your favorite because it might not have everything you want. PS3 does not have halo so the xbox might be your favorite but it does not make it the best console.

insomnium24872d ago

WOW your comment rocks! Exactly.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers27d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken26d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g27d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing27d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H927d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola26d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66927d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle26d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg27d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos27d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola27d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies48d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken47d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga47d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken47d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6447d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long47d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197247d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic47d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12547d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91347d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer47d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91347d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit47d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher47d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6947d ago (Edited 47d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit47d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher47d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken47d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197247d ago (Edited 47d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic47d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2347d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218347d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder47d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts47d ago

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