Sony reveals size for Mass Effect 2 PSN download

Grace Chen, Senior Manager of the PlayStation Store, reveals the download size for the PSN release of Mass Effect 2 in addition to the full game trial start date for Playstation Plus subscribers.

[Blacktric]

12 GB?? ZOMG! At least every bit of it will be worth downloading.

[TheTruth89]

who cares, ps3 owners can swap their HDD with ANY 2,5HDD

I still have 600GB

@Disagree
LOOOOL it's a fact, NOOBS!

[-Alpha]

I upgraded to a 500 GB so I don't mind the size. But I have a monthly limit of 60 GB. Hard copy for me any way, but have fun with the digital copy.

[trounbyfire]

very nice i should upgrade and if you get a faster HHD it will speed up your ps3 so win win

i am a gig counter when ever i download something. i have a 120 gig slim but i still count i have 79

[Tommykrem]

That's actually wrong. Not all 2,5 will have the correct connection gate/format/whatever and won't physically be a match for the PS3. And even though they are a bit faster, you should avoid 7200rpm HDD's as they overheat the PS3.

A lot of people have also reported problems with HDD's with over 1tb capacity, but some say it works just fine.
Not my intention to nitpick here, but be more clever than me and do some research before you look for that new HDD, everyone!

[TheTruth89]

Do not say bullsh!t man.

EVERY 2,5 HDD work with PS3.
There only one kind of 2,5 HDD that have some problem DUE TO higher mm dimensions (something like 2 / 3 mm (it won't fit at all btw). (very very very rare btw)

Regard 1TB issue... dunno xD.

And regards the 7200RPM.... pick an SSD and you will have 200x performance and no heat at all :D

[nunley33]

I have the 250gb slim with plenty of space left on it even with game installs and about 40 psn games on it too. wonder how much since the game won't include the DLC the retail disc is getting HMM,I do want to play this to see if it's as good as people say it is. I have a 360 but i would rather buy it for PS3.

[Vortex3D]

One serious problem with having large hard drive on PS3 is the time takes to do full hard drive backup. If you ask why bother to do full hard drive backup, it's the only way to backup console locked saved game files.

It will take more than half a day to backup a 500GB hard drive that is full of data.

Of course if you have to clear up part of the hard drive for faster full hard drive backup, then there's no point having a large hard drive.

[starcb26]

I thought the limit was 500GB?

[DualConsoleOwner]

got 7200 rpm western digital 500gig.

lol extra heat?? not really. haha.

got it a year ago and still working fine.

btw, limit is not 500 gig. but its pretty expensive beyond 500gig at this point.

[Bloodraid]

Are you lacking mentally by some chance?

Second sentence: ALL 2.5HDD's work with PS3.
Third Sentence: There are some 2.5HDD's that don't fit.

Just because of that, I'm going to pop one of your bubbles. Hopefully it'll cut down on the amount of stupid crap that gets posted here.

[Ryudo]

@TheTruth89

How much crack have you been smoking?

"And regards the 7200RPM.... pick an SSD and you will have 200x performance and no heat at all :D"

First of all SSD's when used in conjunction with Playstation 3's improve load times by around 30 percent in certain games in some games they show no improvement at all.

So I have no idea where you got 200x the performance because it's not even possible, The PS3's Cell processor couldn't read the Data at 200x the speed of 7200rpm.

The data transfer cable doesn't have that much bandwidth it's completely and utterly impossible with current technology.

And secondly SDD drives do create heat. All be it not nearly as much as a HD but they still create heat.

In fact anything that carries energy creates heat, because what humans call heat is actually just the disbursement of energy.

[ApexHell]

ps3 internal hard drive limit is 1 TB , external as far as i know supports up to 2 TB, but usb speed isnt fast enough for some games so they will hang.

[Dac2u]

Please, try to put this HDD into your PS3 I'd love to see how it works out for you.

http://www.newegg.com/Produ...

Not all 2.5" HDD's are compatible, this one is ATA6, not SATA.

@DualConsoleOwner:
He didn't say the 7200rpm drive wouldn't work, he said it generates more heat. Which is true, 7200rpm spins faster than 5400 and generates more heat, which can cause problems if you don't take care of your PS3.

[Moentjers]

no downloadlimits here, 640GB hdd.

how did they call this, next-gen ?

[AK46]

In a few few years it's gonna be Digital distribution or Hard copy(Blu-ray>, or both. Sony will have them all and the size of the load won't matter for Sony.

[PS-_-GAMER]

Coño.... Omg con hielo.. Este baina ta dura...

[CoLD FiRE]

And they say PC gaming is costly because you have to upgrade every 6 months. :\

[gameraxis]

i think some people are missing the point, as in will the extra 5 gigs make the game better in some way? Can just having it uncompressed make it that big? or will it come with dlc? hmmmm why such a size difference, full 1080p? who knows...

EDIT: OH wait, it came on two discs didn't it? yup nevermind. i was the one missing the point.

[gameraxis]

i already played it on the 360 so i don't think i'll be getting it, unlike sigma, to which i was pissed they did away with the blood... better graphics and expansions or not... no blood in NG?!?!?! i think not

[gameraxis]

as with the comment related to "truth" MOST 2.5 inch SATA let me say again, SATA drives will work on the ps3, the extra rpm is ok, and will cause MORE heat than ur 5400? rpm i think it is currently in the ps3, but not so much so that it will cause any problems (likely) unless your playing in a hot environment as it is with no room for the ps3 to breath. but it will not improve ur ps3's performance by 200 times, like ryudo said. But against ryudo's statement the bandwidth that allows that 30 percent increase in load times is the xdr architecture, which allows faster transfer speed of data so if a dev were to actually code as such for a faster hdd or ssd (future), you probably COULD see more improvements than load times, BUT def not 200 times, not even twice the performance.

[mushroomwig]

Retail disc for me, I like having a collection. :]

[Motorola]

Agreed, doesnt feel the same when your not holding the game in your hand. Especially for a game that is THIS good. (or so I have heard, still waiting for PS3 release :D)

[Anderson8]

snap

[RankFTW]

Aye retail for me too, will probably be cheaper and will also get it early.

[visualb]

this

[Trixzter7]

Woah, Grace Chen actually replied to somebody?
All this time I though she was a bot who just posted the Store Updates...

[mushroomwig]

She's also been in one or two firmware update videos, she's pretty attractive if I must say.

[Adva]

She is the worst PS Store rep. SCEE rep is x1000 better. He actually replies every post, with an avg of about 25 replies, he also includes some hints and actual info if he can. Grace Chen on the other hand ignores everything.

[TANUKI]

Ha... it's actually 100% true what Adva said. I follow the blogs consistently, and I've only seen her respond maybe once... twice?

I guess she doesn't really care, b/c she thinks Sid and Jeff can do it all.

[Warprincess116]

Great. I love digital downloads.
I definitely gone to download this.
I hope PSN gets some more game full games
like this near the release date of the disc version.
I hope capcom does this with MVC3.

[Dave1351]

i know xbox has games on demand which is awesome so im glad sony is finally getting some full games to catch up

[BrianG]

Not really catching up, they both have had the service for some time, full retail games online.

Sony actually offered new games like Socom Confrontation day one on PSN. It took a while for games on demand to have any worthwhile mentions and still does not offer same day retail and online offerings like PSN.

So who is playing catchup if anyone is?

[EskiJoe]

I believe that Burnout Paradise was available for download. And Siren the blood curse.

...

[mac_sparrow]

Been doing it since Warhawk at least.

[MGRogue2017]

Good luck downloading that... Gonna' take at least 2-3 days, Possibly even longer.. even on a 2-3MB broadband connection

[mushroomwig]

A lot of people have a faster connection than 2-3MB, it's not 2004 anymore. ;)

[Pandamobile]

Do some math...

It would take 66 minutes at 3 MB/s

or are you talking Mb? If you mean 3 Mb/s, that's roughly 375 KB/s, in which case it would take 8-9 hours.

3 Mb/s connections are pretty damn slow by today's standards, most people have 10-25 Mbps.

[-Alpha]

I downloaded 3 GB in about an hour once. So no. At most it will take 4-5 hours for me.

[ct03]

You fail at math quite hard.
On a 3MB connection it downloads in just over an hour. On a 3Mb (mega bit) connection it downloads in about 9 hours.

[ActionBastard]

What Panda said.

[AccountClosed57029]

Get off his nuts.

[TheTruth89]

lol what?

I have a 10MB connection, 1mb/s ;D

2/3MB connections are outdated

[HOTA9X]

lol tell that to my country .5 mb all the way!

[the_best_player]

Mb or MB?

[MmaFanQc]

im usually downloading 1gb in 5 minutes from the psn so it wont be a problem at all....

hey enkeixpress, WELCOME IN 2011 !

[Bluemaster77]

What the hell kind of connection do you have if your getting those type speeds ?!?!?

[MmaFanQc]

a basic connection with Videotron (quebec,canada) ...the only thing i hate is the 100gb limit per month.

[ColinZeal]

12GB is like 15 minutes on my 100/50 connection. :) But DL from PSN is like half the speed so... half an hour? Yeah. Worth it even if the install takes x2 the time.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

It takes like 10 hours to download 12GB maybe a little less with a 2.5MB (around 250-350KBps) Broadband connection.

12GB, almost the same size as ME2 on PC.

[dc1]

@enkeixpress
It took me 5 hours to download DC universe (14 Gb). ..however,.. I do have pretty fast internet speed.

[Omegasyde]

All of the above,

Despite inventing the damn internet, the U.S. on average per household (subscription $30-40 per month) has slow d/l speeds in comparison to most of Europe and Asia.

U.S is not even in the top 10
Link:
http://www.technohugs.com/2...

(Assuming Enkei is from the U.S.)

[Bordel_1900]

I have a 30/30 Megabit fiber connection. The ISP provides up to 200 Megabits, but I choose to pay for only 30, lowest speed available is 10/10.

I see many speak of dl limits, that's unheard of here, dl limits only apply to some mobile 3G and 4G subscriptions.

I'm in Norway btw.

[Dorwrath]

Thats a bit excessive. I have a pretty good connection, and it wouldn't take that long.

However why does my PS3 take twice as long, if not more to download the same amount of data as my PC or 360. Put new cables switched things around but my PS3 is a dinosaur in downloading compared to my other systems.

[kane_1371]

i downloaded DC universe online beta which was 16gb and it took 24hr.
but my speed is low,it is around 100KB/sec i believe so it is understandable.
for most ppl it won't take more than a few hr

[ActionBastard]

PS+ has been eating away at my HDD so for now, it's retail. Still need to upgrade my HDD.

EDIT: @ pork chop + Bubs for the info, but I thought the PS3 couldn't see an internal drive larger than 500GB?

[pork_chop_express]

I dont know how reliable the new 1tb samsung platters are, but their prices are tumbling so quickly, wait a while and grab a bargain.

edit:
action u might be right i will check the physical dimensions of those dives i thought they were standard size!

[pork_chop_express]

Yup ignore my above comment, they are just a little too fat for slim ps3's and will be a tough fit into an old fatty.

Always check the physical dimensions of 2.5" drives!

[dc1]

and Plus Bub to you.
PS+ is one of the better investments that I have made in the past couple of years.

[Omegasyde]

@Action

You can Delete some games and re-download them (I believe up to 5 times).

You have go to: PSN > Account Settings > Downloads/transaction history.

PS+ games can be re-downloadeded indefinitely as long as you have a subscription. Just don't delete any kind of Themes/Etc. from other regions as those are very difficult to get back.

[duplissi]

actually as many times as you want, the 5 times limit is how many different systems you have your account activated on.

[Kleptic]

yeah i thought it was 5 different systems...but you can download it to those machines as much as you want...

[PirateThom]

See, this game needed to be installed on the 360 because loading times are horrible and, shall we say, other parts, ran like crap unless you installed it... unless there's a full install option on the disc, the download may not be a bad choice.

[pork_chop_express]

There should at least be a gig shadow cache or 2.5gb installation on the disc i hope. Who has a review copy?

[A LIVING LEGEND]

My ISP claims we have 15mbs,I doubt it but still I will be downloading this instead of driving for 2.5hrs through a snowstorm to buy.

[Fishy Fingers]

Not to surprising, pretty much the same size as the Steam download.

[Mnemonic-DK]

Well, the PC download from EA was 9.61 GB + 600 MB for the extras, but I guess the extra space is used for the comic explaining the story from ME1...

[A LIVING LEGEND]

^ I doubt its THAT bad >@ Freshnikes

[Freshnikes]

I'm not trying to hate I'm sure its a gd game...I just thought for an exclusive it was gonna blow me away....gow3 .....uc2.....wow.....I never played an xbox360 exclusive so I though it was gonna be wow that all...I'm sure halo reach...would of gave me that wow factor

[TheDivine]

If you only played the demo and came to the conclusion it sucks lmao. Your opinion i guess but i find its the best series of this gen. This game is as good as any exclusive and im glad everyone finally gets to play it. It definately gives you the wow factor when you get into the story, the ending is pretty epic also, not as good as part one, but the gameplay and graphics are so much better. I cant wait for part 3 and i might rent it to check the comic myself.

[zoks310]

Well I would dl this game but I'm afraid of how much space DC online will ultimately take up when the updates and patches start rolling out for that game, so to play it safe, I'll get the bluray copy of ME2.
It's still great that Sony is offering this up for DL on day one, this can be a very good option for some people. Love the support PSN is getting lately.

[Karum]

If EU users get the 60 minute trial I'll probably have a go at hat before deciding to buy the game.

And if I do buy it then it will be on a disc.

[wiggles]

Damn 12 GB's!? I gotta start looking into how to perform a drive swap so I can enjoy the digital goodness. I'm really excited, the demo was a lot of fun and very smooth, I can't wait to get my hands on this

[Gambit07]

If we get it on disc, how large is the install then?

[Freshnikes]

I was hyped when I was downloading this...im like a 360 exclusive that ppl kept raving it has to be epic......yea it was epic an epic let down.....let me put it this way if uc2 ever came to xbox....you are gonna get epic everything mouthwatering to drool for game...and I thought that I was gonna get that wow reaction with me2...I'm sure is a gd game..I just thought for an exclusive it was gonna blow me away...look very avg.

[kramun]

Please stop posting.

[jarrod1981]

yes please stop posting. you have to be the biggest d-bag troll ive ever seen.

[Baka-akaB]

I already have an hardcopy of the game , so i might as well get the psn download .

[A LIVING LEGEND]

I'm less interested in 'looks' than gameplay,story,immersion,etc
I'm crazy like that :/
You weren't impressed,fair enough.I might be tho...
Remember also,exclusive doesn't necessarily mean ' guaranteed masterpiece'.
You can't stare at the sun and not expect to go blind.No big deal.

[shadowknight203]

HOW MUCH WILL IT COST THOUGH?

[ColinZeal]

I´d guess $59.99. Still getting it though.

[Allowen]

It is nice to have one more big game (the last was that Agarest Wars with around 9G) coming to the PS3 via download.
Or even better, ME2 will not be avaiable only via DL but also in BD.

I like the idea to be able to start playing this game sooner by buying it through DL instead to wait the imported BD game to pop on my country.

My 500G HDD is starting to get small with all the 20+ Qore episodes, lots of ~ 450megas videos from the PSN. I got to start making more space by deleting 3 years old demos and videos .

[Der_Kommandant]

Disc

I love the smell of a new video game

[Bathyj]

Remember GT2 smelt like burning rubber?

[Der_Kommandant]

hahaha

when you scratched the printed side

[Bathyj]

Ahh Scratch n Sniff.

My Playboy idea never did get off the ground.

[Bathyj]

Why is it people like to download again?

Dont get me wrong, I love having Dead Nation and Pixel Junk Shooter on my XMB, but anything over a couple of gig I would much rather buy a disc.

DD has been pretty successful, mainly with steam, XBL and PSN but its a long way to go before its the norm.

I get 80GB a month but only 35 at peak times and still have a crappy 1500k connection. I could go to 8000k but then I lose gigs. Thats just the reality for a lot of people and until that changes DD is for the niche.

And thats just the people that even have the internet, not everyone does, even in this day and age.

PS
I like having the disc. I like the box sitting on my shelf. My Bluray and game collection fill a ceiling high bookshelf and is not unimpressive to my geekier mates. I dont trade, I'm a collector. I still have a heap of SNES, N64, NGC, PSOne, PS2, Xbox games and I intend to keep this gens as well.

[ColinZeal]

"Why is it people like to download again?"

Because people in Europe don´t have those retarded rules you americans have to live under. No bandwidth caps here with 100/50 for $18 bucks a month. Fiber.

That why. I welcome more day one downloads. Please SONY.

[Bathyj]

Well thats great for you, and I'm not saying for a minute that that service shouldnt be available to you.

I was more making a point at people that claim Digital Distribution will or should replace physical media any time soon.

Any like I said, some of us like to have the game in our hands. Even if I had the fastest internet available and no caps I would still go to my shop and buy them. My collection is like a reminder (or trophy if you will) of my 30 years of gaming.

Still its good for people that want it. More choice, not less.

BTW
I'm not American. How dare you ;) (kidding.)

[kramun]

DD has it's good points and its bad points, depending on how you look at it. While a lot of people like to have a physical games collection that you can look at and touch, some people on the other hand like it because you have all your games already on your system ready to play. It also saves a walk down the shops (lazy buggers - /jk).

I used to really care about collecting games a few years ago, but now I'm not too fussed really. It's a disc in a case with a very thin manual, the days are gone when they put some effort into what went into the packaging. Now I rarely keep hold of physical copies unless it's a game with a lot of replayability, otherwise they get traded in.

This is just my own opinion though and I can understand your viewpoint. But although I agree that DD will not take over physical in the near future, I think it will eventually.

[Kleptic]

U.S. download caps are just about as shitty as possible...

I'm in the clear right now, my area I mean...but I only have access to one ISP currently...so if they decide to start doing caps, I have no choice...

but its already horribly over priced...i ONLY need internet...I watch any and all TV via internet anyway...but just 5Mb/s down is nearly $60 a month...

luckily though I'm locked into a 3 year cell contract with unlimited mobile broadband...for $60 also...I love AT&T sending things 3 times a week trying to get me to 'upgrade' to something with a cap...

and Kramun...I totally agree...I hated the idea of DD early on, and would always go for the disc version if available...but it feels more and more like DVDs as time goes on...they put a 2 page bare minimum slip in there with how to load the disc and other required info...and nothing else...

[Nicaragua]

DD is convenient. You prefer having a physical copy in your hand, i prefer having all those pretty icons lined up on my PS3's XMB were i can flit between games without having to get off the couch.

The download speed thing isnt an issue for me on a 20mb connection so downloading is often less of a ballache than going to the store and dealing with some spotty little shit behind the counter.

[yewles1]

And this brings back a not-so-talked-about concern about XBLM, the "cap"...

[A LIVING LEGEND]

@Bathyj
I agree 99%
I'm that 1% that has to travel 256km to buy games and the forecast says snow for 5-6 days....
We are currently in 'talks' to drive the distance instead and get ME2,LBP2,and DCU....buying in bulk justifies the trip :)

[nunley33]

Thats crazy stuff making a drive like that just to buy some games lol, Get DEAD SPACE 2 PS3 CE while your at it too.I'll get ME2 later for PS3 but i may wait till the price drops a bit for it b4 i get it.

[Cajun Chicken]

Whoa. What?!? That's crazy. Just buy the damn disc version of the game.

[Bodster]

Has there been a price confirmed for the Digital Version yet?

[Solans Scott]

I believe both versions are $59.99 according to the article over at http://ps3.ign.com/articles...

[Bodster]

Thanks for the link :)

+Bubs

[Miacosa]

Not bad the same as the 360 install thought it might be more with the new engine.

[Krakn3Dfx]

12GB download on PSN? You might as well go on vacation for a week, start it downloading before you leave, then come back home halfway through your vacation, start the installation of the downloaded file, and then go back and finish the rest of your vacation.

[Pandamobile]

Must suck having dialup.

[Mmmkay]

haha. might take an hour..

[A LIVING LEGEND]

^take a shower.it helps

[Fade_Walker]

I'm going to stick with the disk version.

[Vortex3D]

Still unknown for the mandatory install size for the disc version. Dragon Age: Origins Ultimate Edition requires over 7GB of mandatory install.

[Philoctetes]

I don't care about mandatory installs. I just have slow-as-hell internet and it would take forever to download 12 GBs.

[DarkBlood]

yeah well disk version for me as i just preordered it yesterday but since its psn plus subscribers only u'll be locked out of it if u dont continue to suscribe so thats your downside to it

[nchizimbi]

I prefer my games on disc.

[saulx6]

or you just gamefly and rip it on your hdd with a hacked ps3

[cfountain]

disk version for me either way. cant wait to pick this up either next week or week after next.

[blakstarz]

7200 RPM drive do not overheat the PS3, I have upgraded my 60GIG one to a 500 WD Black Scorpio drive and runs smooth, gotta love the fact there is no limitation or proprietary hold on the size of the drive you can place in a PS3, very smart move. So there is no need for ANYONE to complain about installs whatsoever.

[Thesonygeniuses]

Def getting this no matter how big the hard drive size is...thats what she said. haha

[TANUKI]

Disk version for me, since I want to have the disc + box, etc.

[SpinalRemains138]

whats the big deal? It's 12 Gb. Go buy the disk if you can't spare 12Gb. It isn't 50, or 80. Am I the only guy who erases his old needless data? Do you guys leave the old game data there to look at or something? When a game is done, it's done. The trophies remind you of your accomplishments, not the data. I suppose movies and music do take up a lot, but 12 Gb isn't exactly going to break the ice here. It means that there's a lot of content to play. This is a good thing.

[doolindesperado]

Good thing I'm buying the disc. To download that, it'll take all damn week. You all will have beaten it and I'll still be downloading!

[ATi_Elite]

12Gb? Haven't they heard of WINZIP or 7zip. Compress that shit.

[Shogun Master]

Played this a year ago so I won't be getting either of them. If I hadn't played it yet, it would be the disk and box for me. I like collections.

[ChristianGamer]

So nobody else noticed that the game size is LESS than the 360?? And this is meant to include the dlc and comic thingy.
What gives?

[Tjernobieleke]

black magic!

[yewles1]

HDD speed advantage allows for consolidation including data duplicates for seek times removed and redundant assets removed cause no need for an extra disc.

[Solbadguy]

They need to tell us about this stuff earlier than a week before the game comes out. I pre-ordered this game like 2 months ago assuming the disc version was the only version.

[tigertron]

The digital version is great for those who want it, but I'll be sticking to the disc as I prefer to have a physical collection. I only download games if I don't have the option of buying the disc, or if the download version is out first i.e. Warhawk and Siren.

[Masterchef2007]

its nice that they are including a trial for PSN+ memebrs. They should do the same with arcade games. 12GBs is a lot maybe its just better buying it at retail unless buying it on PSN nets you a huge discount.

[AceofStaves]

I'll be getting the disk version. HDD space isn't a problem, but my 60 GB/month bandwidth cap is.

[Hitman0769]

Heck yeah I can live with that, I was expecting it to be bigger but I guess it WAS an Xbox game after all, even with the new engine it has to be compatible to DVD-9 and such, even with the DLC included this is not a bad filesize.

[Simco876]

Hard Copy FTW

[simplymigs]

Well I reckon that's a big unintentional fuck-you to people with a download quota. Eg. A few people down here in Australia.

[trainsinrdr]

skyrim will fuck mass effect 3 hard

[Allowen]

8est year ever on this gen for rpg games on the ps3:
DAO2
ME2
ME3
ESV:Skyrin

And if you can play in a PC & Wii you can also play at least two other great rpgs:
The witcher 2 and Zelda Wii

[DanSolo]

I live in a rural area in England, so I suppose it might download in time for me to play it before ME3 comes out.... that is supposing the hamster doesnt get knackered first!

[Tjernobieleke]

Same size as the 360 version with all content installed. Why don't they fill the left over blu-ray space with some nice DLC showing Miranda on her Spring break or Jacob breaking in some newbies at Black Hole Space School for boys? A new engine alone is not going to want me playing it again on PS3. But who cares..right? Who cares...

[ChickeyCantor]

its also 12 Gb on pc
One of the best Gb's on my pc