Destructoid: LittleBigPlanet 2 Review

For all its new gimmicks and flashing lights, LittleBigPlanet 2 can still be best described as a great way to make substandard games. It's fun and it's cute and it's something PS3 fans should check out, but it's relying on a concept that was brilliant two years ago, and just isn't enough anymore to catapult the game into true greatness.

You're good, LittleBigPlanet 2. But you're not quite as brilliant as you want to be.

[Dark_Charizard]

I didn't expect this blasphemy! Especially since Destructoid's GotY was Super Mario Galaxy 2, a platformer.

[kancerkid]

OMIGOD, they used the whole 10 point scale instead of just 8-10!

Aghast!!

[zootang]

Destructoid got struck off my list along time ago.

[ksense]

no one would read if it was another 9 or 10 so lets give it a 7.5 and see what happens...

[pixelsword]

Going to Destructoid for gaming advice is like going to RuPaul for advice on how to attract a chaste Christian lady.

No hits for you, Destructoid!

http://nicedeb.files.wordpr...

[jack_burt0n]

pixel wins the internetz.

remixz:

"Going to Destructoid for gaming advice is like going to Jim Sterling for advice on how to attract a chaste Christian lady."

"Going to Destructoid for gaming advice is like going to Jim Sterling for advice on how to lose weight."

[MAJ0R]

LBP1 has a 75 on MC and still averages a 95

[ChineseDemocracy]

This is why we have sites like Metacritic. With a clear average of around 90-95%, it's pretty clear that these guys be trollin'.

Haters gon' hate.

[Trebius]

disgraceful. to give such an amazing game full of so much unlimited amount of content, and on top of that it's visually stunning.

they just want hits, they have no respect for their 'profession'.

[MmaFanQc]

Jim Sterling opinion dont matter,

[kerrak]

Jim Stertrolling:
Yeah, LBP is an old formula already 2 years old. Who would want more of the same old shit?
Can't wait to breath some fresh air and new ideas with COD27, Halo8, Guitar Hero16, FinalFantasy27, Mario62, Madden33 and NeedForSpeed15.

[pimpmaster]

7.5 :( looks like it has a long way to go to even be as good as deadly premonitions 10.

[rosebowl23]

"Destructoid"

stopped reading right there, one of the biggest joke sites in the industry. desperate for hits they must be.

[ExplosionSauce]

why the jumping in LBP is always brought up as an issue.

Get used to it, it's physics based.

[ikkokucrisis]

LOOK NO FURTHER I'VE GOT IT RIGHT HERE
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Jim Sterling's Review Formula:

If it's bad it's good, if it's good it's bad...

...unless it's sponsored.

[captain-obvious]

lol

[sikbeta]

Destructoid? and we have to take this site serious? bwahahahaha, thanks for the laughs XD

[Razmossis]

@ everyone above.

Are you implying 75 is a bad score?

[gta2800]

@Razmossis

For a game of that caliber..yes.

These reviewers shouldn't even be basing their scores on just their opinions on games. Cause opinions are like ass holes, everyone's got one and it stinks. They should review games on the technical aspects, story telling, what it offers to the gaming community and just anything like that. Not on personal stuff like "oh, this game is the same as 2 years ago and I don't like that so I'm just gonna give it a 75". It's always those type of reviewers that give shit reviews to things that deserved higher scores. If I was a reviewer and lets say I was reviewing a game that had all the goods that it needs to get a deserving 10/10. Best graphics, awesome story, great game play mechanics, great online features, etc. But it's a sequel and although its as good if not better than the last I decide to give it a 50/10 just because I don't like that it's almost the same as the last one, I think it would be safe to call that BS! I would review it and score it from all the technical aspects and then point out what I personally didn't like. ie: "This game has great graphics, great story, great online, great game play mechanics which gives it a well deserved 9.8/10, although I personally didn't like the main character, a level, a song, or it was the same as last year, etc etc".
Not "I personally don't like this game sooo ummm lets drop a lot of points on this and act like the hard critic".

[MmaFanQc]

@Razmossis
Are you implying jim sterling is a game reviewer?

[disturbing_flame]

Sad to see clever and smart games destroyed like that when Halo or COD shit are considered as GOTY.

[Boatz]

@gta2800

Are you serious? A review is the OPINION of the person writing it, but writing their opinion is the LAST thin they should do?

You're right, the plot, graphics, gameplay are all important, but in the end, it's whether the final combination is FUN. Halo 3 was well built, had good graphics, had a deep plot, and pretty good gameplay, but I'd still only give it a 7.5 because, in the end, it didn't blow me away like it did so many others. World or Warcraft is another example, looking at the expansive world, big (if sometimes hard to find) plot, and meticulous attention to detail in the gameplay, by your classification of games, it should be loved by all, but just because it has all these good things does not mean everyone's going to like it.

If Jim Sterling had really written this to stir up controversy, he would've given it a 1 or 2. But he gave it a 7.5 (which, as everyone seems to be forgetting, is a good score, here in the UK, 75% would get me a first in my degree :D) because that's what HE thought it deserved.

IMO, he's dead on. 2D platformers that you have to build yourself shouldn't get anything more than a 7.5 :D

[Christopher]

Haven't looked and I know it's a Sterling review. Just can't trust his reviews since he's 99% of the time a sensationalist rather than a realist. I can tell by the news bit posted above that it's Sterling. It screams of his usual poor reviewing capabilities that focus on writing articles to cause controversy rather than truly reviewing a game for what it is.

[-Alpha]

Regardless, if you want to go with reviews simply look at the majority. I don't think I look at LBP2 as crucially as he does. I'm in it for the fun local MP personally and to see what others make. I feel that Mm has done a tremendous job expanding the creative tools and listening to the LBP community. It's a worthy sequel.

I have no issue with his review though, and in fact think he did a pretty decent job of explaining his points. It may come off as sensationalist because he simply puts forth a more negative opinion, but I certainly don't dismiss his thoughts entirely. The issue I have is that he seems to weigh the negatives quite heavily and I completely feel that LBP2 is a worthy sequel.

Most reviews still complain about the loose platforming and I can understand why. While I'm not a fan of it, I don't really mind it. I wish they tightened up the jumping but we have MP levels for that. Ultimately I know I enjoyed the platforming and while there were some frustrations with it, it didnt detract overall. I didn't exactly look at LBP as a platformer though that was the main aspect of the SP. I just look at it as an amazing social game.

In fact with LBP2's custom tuning of jumping and focus on genres as opposed to platformers I think the issue is even smaller than before.

[Christopher]

I think what pisses me off the most about his reviewing style is sentences that begin with "For all its new gimmicks and flashing lights..".

Last time I checked, all those gimmicks and flashing lights are what make other games as well, including the ones he rates highly.

His tone is undeserved and harsh and honestly a disservice to the people who put their time, effort, and heart into the games they make for us.

***The issue I have is that he seems to weigh the negatives quite heavily and I completely feel that LBP2 is a worthy sequel. ***

That's the sensationalism at work, though. He does something to buck the trend, something over-handed, in order to get hits to his site and get people complaining about his review.

I don't care to argue with him on his site and I think how he reviews is a complete disservice to what reviewing is supposed to be about.

I get what you're saying Alpha, but I don't believe he does it because that's how he feels but because that's what gets him the attention he wants. IMHO, a review should be about just the game and not your need for attention.

Look at his other reviews. He chooses to be overly harsh and focus only on the negative with a score that's below the average by a good amount or he chooses to ignore the huge faults with the game and scores it way above average (especially Dynasty Warrior style games).

[-Alpha]

Actually you are right about that, seems like a smug jab to provoke people. But I don't let it bother me. I know LBP2 will be great, I am aware of his complaints and I know that I don't agree/mind them enough to detract from my enjoyment of the game. I know exactly what to expect from LBP2 and I am simply waiting patiently for my copy to arrive at this point. This is one game I've been so sure about that I didn't need reviews to aid me in the purchase.

"I get what you're saying Alpha, but I don't believe he does it because that's how he feels but because that's what gets him the attention he wants"

Probably, I'm not too familiar with his work, but I am aware that he is known for being a sensationalist. Again, I don't care. I haven't played LBP2 aside from the demo but I've been following the game so closely and I simply know what to expect, where to put my expectations, and what I want out of this game. It's not a platformer I'm looking for. It's LittleBigPlanet. I will judge the game on its own merits.

[Acquiescence]

To me, it's not so much the fact that he gives undeniably great games such as LBP 2 relatively low scores that bothers me; it's the tripe that he favours instead. 9 for Singularity, 10 for Deadly Premonition, and I've heard he actually enjoys playing the later Dynasty Warrior games.

The guy is clearly trying to make a bid for subjectivity in video gaming (and fishing for hits by doing so), but flaws are flaws, and there's no way one can convincingly state that something as broken and slapdash as Deadly Premonition is the better game above LBP 2.

Ehh whatever. Everything about the guy is detestable anyhow. I wouldn't expect the likes of him to understand something so universally adored and adorable as LittleBigPlanet 2.

[Threesix]

@Alpha

Alpha, your level headedness is a shining example that I wish more people on this website would have.

As for Sterling, it's a not really a secret that people who even take the time to complain about review scores, are somewhat the target for his work (because they make it so easy for him), but he does give fair points for games and gives a different perspective to what other corporate gaming websites do. To most people, they either love him or hate him.

I hope you enjoy your game.

[Christopher]

***But I don't let it bother me.***

I'm not bothered by Jim Sterling, I just talk about it because it's the topic at hand. I'll never let someone's opinion sway me so strongly. Well, other than my wife's but that's because I have to sleep with her.

Talking about Sterling in a Sterling review article is like talking about sales in a sales article, that's it.

[kaveti6616]

I'm just going to go by what I read in the description and I know people will disagree, but I agree with the statement that LBP2 is a great way to make substandard games.

People are praising LBP2 because it provides the tools to create any genre of game, which is impressive. But all of those games that can be created, as far as I've seen are pretty mediocre and the tools provided - the assets - are all dripping with that distinct LBP style so it's difficult to make a level or game with LBP2 that looks truly distinct or apart from other LBP levels.

I can only go by the examples in the beta, and I remember people on this site being really impressed with certain levels such as the first person shooter that was created in LBP2 as well as the remake of Final Fantasy. From the posts on the threads, I felt like people were forcing themselves to be really excited and impressed even though the first person shooter was a very simple, on-rails, corridor type carnival shooter where targets moved across the screen and the player shot at them with a toy machine gun.

And the Final Fantasy remake, while a little more impressive, only made me want to go and play the real final fantasy rather than playing that LBP style remake.

Another example was a fighting game that was modeled after marvel vs. capcom. The moves were extremely limited, the environments bland and cartoony, the sackboy characters only poorly resembled marvel or capcom characters and despite these shortcomings, a bunch of people on this site still praised the level and were like "OMG you can do anything in LBP2."

LBP2 is a game that allows the player to create anything, right? So, it's kind of like a "Jack of All Trades, but a Master of NONE."

I'm just saying, you can't make an RPG in LBP2 that would look more interesting or more fleshed out or more graphically distinct than Fallout 3 or Oblivion or Demon's Souls or Mass Effect.

You can't make a shooter in LBP2 that will have the same intensity as Killzone 3, the same scope and size as Halo's maps, the same artistic beauty as Uncharted 2's maps, or the same features (such as chopper support) as Call of Duty.

You can't make a racing game with physics and tracks as accurate as Gran Turismo or one that has the same accurate vehicle sounds.

You can't make an open world sandbox RPG with the same size and scope and animations as either GTA or Infamous.

Even if you can make any TYPE of game, none of the games, maps or levels you can construct in LBP2, with the tools available or the freedom allowed will ever come close to even the most mediocre, standalone games that exist today.

I'm sorry, but I have never seen, although I have looked and searched and scoured the internet, anything made in LBP or in LBP2's beta, that could by itself be considered a good game.

The fact that you can make anything in LBP2 is just a gimmick that distracts you from the reality that nothing you can make will ever be as fun or engaging as the games you'll probably be emulating.

[Christopher]

@kaveti6616: I think what people are missing is that you only need LBP2 and no former programming/graphical experience to make these games. It's not intended to replace game creation in the industry, it's a tool for allowing normal people to make their own game in the LBP style.

***The fact that you can make anything in LBP2 is just a gimmick that distracts you from the reality that nothing you can make will ever be as fun or engaging as the games you'll probably be emulating. ***

You don't know that. I mean, honestly, there's no way you could make such a declaration. Heck, some of the simplest of games, like Costume Quest, have been more fun for me that high cost AAA titles. The same for many a flash game. It doesn't take high production values or complex engines to make a fun game, it takes talent and a spark of creativity.

[kaveti6616]

You're right that I can't make that kind of claim, cgoodno.

But I hope you understand what I am trying to say.

This idea that you can make anything doesn't necessarily mean a great deal unless the people who are creating these levels have the talent to pull it off, and I don't think they do.

With the first LittleBigPlanet, I didn't see anything that impressed me. I played it a little and thought it was a decent platformer, though the jump response time irked me.

With this game, I think the boundaries have widened, but the audience is still the same. I don't think anyone is going to make a compelling game or level with LBP2.

If someone makes a fighting game that somewhat looks like a fighting game, somewhat sounds like a fighting game and somewhat plays like a fighting game, will it be more appealing to play than say, Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Soul Calibur, etc???

I don't think so.

Jack of All Trades, Master of None. That's all I'm saying.

It's like Halo's Forge World. The assets and building blocks of Forge World allow the community to create some awesome stuff, but all the maps have the same cookie cutter feel because the blocks are all the same color and follow the same conceptual design of Halo.

Obviously, LBP2 is larger in scope than Forge World, but it still has limitations that I mentioned in my first post.

[mastiffchild]

Look, as soon as you see Jim Sterling attached to anything you KNOW it's dubious. It's sad cos he CAN actually write but his ego needs constant attention and reviews are his stock in trade of massaging it.

You can go back through his history and see the formula at work(remember the 4/10 AC2 attention grab?)-he waits for a game getting almost universal praise(and all the better if it's a big game, an exclusive or a game with a fanbase)then slaps his "controversial" opinion down on the table like it's something to be proud of. It's forced differentiation for the sake of notoriety and hits. If you can't see through the amorphous blob by now you never will.

Fact is JS is a sad man way too full of his self importance and like any internet troll nhe thinks his opinion is the only thing that matters even when it's an opinion just created to spawn attention. By reding ANYTHIG into what he writes you're doing him FAR too much credit. It doesn't stand up to being studied because it's not even what he really thinks and it rarely is. As I said, it's a shame because he isn't without writing talent but he chooses to waste it with his legitimised trolling. Sad as f"$%.

[Shadow Flare]

Kaveti, I'm assuming you've never built anything in lbp? When people get amazed by some levels, it's usually because of the sheer imagination and intelligence it took to build it. Point in case, some one built a working calculator in lbp1. A working calculator. Now you might think, whatever, I can use a real calculator. But you're missing the point. Lbp wasn't meant to make calculators. The guy had about a gazzilion different switches and mechanisms to build, he literally built a calculator from scratch. When you understand how complex that is, your jaw drops

See lbp1 was just meant to build platformers. But when people started making side scrolling space ship shoot em ups and stuff, you just scratch your head and think....how did he do that? That's where I get amazed. When I just sit back and think....how, how did he do that?!?

People like myself get excited seeing things like fps or rpg in lbp2 because as a creator you just realise, doors have been opened, omg I never knew you could do that! I guess you wouldn't appreciate it if you weren't a creator. From what I've seen, lbp2 is going to spawn some amazing levels

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Sorry kaveti, I just read your second comment........you're missing the point of the game entirely. If you're expecting a lbp street fighter game to be better then a capcom street fighter game......uh.......dude, levels in lbp aren't made by developers. Theyre made by normal people with no programming experience. You don't buy lbp because you're expecting to get a better final fantasy game out of it, geez. The fun and appreciation comes out of knowing how much effort one little guy puts into his level. I loved music levels in lbp1. Lots of people recreated songs. Were they better then the original songs? Hell no! But I love them because of the effort I know that's gone into it. Me and all the other creators in lbp are in the same boat with the same tools yet some genius can manage to make something incredible and I just have to sit back and applied him because I did not think of that and it is genius. And aside from that, some levels are a great deal of fun because there are very talented creators out there. You just don't get it at all kaveti

[Seferoth75]

And on the PC side someone built a PC within a PC game.

LBP is nothing new. Play create and share has been on the PC and even the Wii for years now. While I am sure its a good game like the first one was Play create and share is something only single console owners are getting excited over. For the rest of it is a case of been there done that

[Christopher]

***But I hope you understand what I am trying to say.***

I believe I do, but at the same time I think people who goof off and play around in LBP aren't looking for such a thing. They're looking for some fan-service, goof around gameplay and just some generic but creative gameplay.

Sure, the LBP fighting games aren't the same as SF4, but they are a way to goof off and play around with friends who may not have the game.

I mean, we watch tons of YouTube videos every day that aren't movie quality, but enjoyable nonetheless. LBP is like that.

And, most importantly to many, it's accessible to their kids and a game that they can enjoy playing with them. My nephews love the heck out of it and can't wait to play a ton of racing games in LBP2.

[kaveti6616]

Shadowflare, it's a highly limited editing tool.

It's not a masterpiece. Does Microsoft Paint deserve such accolades because of all the wonderful shit people have drawn with it?

Does Minecraft deserve the same praise because some guy made a working CPU inside the game?

I don't know why you think that this game is so great. Maybe you think I don't get it. But I think that you are not knowledgeable at all about the PC platform and the fact that it has offered programs like this for years, and now LBP2 comes along and it's getting all this praise and is being called innovative and not only is it not innovative but because its userbase are normal people, nearly everything to come out of it will be parodies, cheap emulations of existing IPs. Yeah, it's cute for a while, but it's not worth sixty five bucks. Do you know all those Super Mario flash games on the internet are actually recreations? They're so fucking well-made that people don't even know the difference. That's worth praise.

I think LBP2 is one of the most overrated IPs ever. It does nothing new but people claim it does, it does not provide limitless possibilities but people claim it does, and it will not feature amazing or interesting level creations, but people claim it will.

[gta2800]

This review is what a publicity stunt is to a celebrity. All just for attention. Sadly, the target suffers as well as the person looking for attention. LBP2 gets a lower score than it deserves, Destructoid loses credibility and all for what? hits? haha. Hope they made chump change off those hits they got. Cause their credibility should be worth more than any amount of hits.

[Shadow Flare]

Kaveti

"Shadowflare, it's a highly limited editing tool."

Kaveti, it's a limited tool because the alternative is to go to university, learn how to program, and develop games from a custom built game engine. What you want is a game which allows you to build anything, to any quality, any size, in any style. That's called being a game developer. Most people don't have the time, skill, or capabilities to literally build a fan made final fantasy that's better then the squaresoft version, or a fan made street fighter that's better then the retail capcom version. And the people who make flash mario games are most likely highly skilled at what they do.

Littlebigplanet is a tool to allow ANYBODY the means of creating games, in a very user friendly manner. Some are exceptionally good with these tools so they can create far more impressive things. What you've seen in the lbp2 beta are just half-cocked ideas and tests at what could be made. I'm fully expecting some amazing levels to be made.

I never said that lbp was the only game of it's kind. I'm sure on pc especially, there are lots of games of the manner, and probably more open and sophisticated games. But lbp is unique in that it's the first hugely successful jump into the genre for consoles, and it's so user friendly that anyone can pick it up. Ive always compared it to YouTube, because it's essentially a gaming version of YouTube. Like Cgoodno said, YouTube is full of fan made videos that will never be up to the standard of Hollywood but are still loved and it's similar with how lbp levels won't be to the standard of retail games but the fan made style of them is loved.

It's a very well polished, and charming mini universe that you can jump into and play peoples imaginations. I looked at some minecraft videos on YouTube and there's nothing charming about it, in fact the graphics look worse then ps1 might i add. You seem to, basically hate the praise lbp gets. Don't buy it then. If you really think there are better alternatives out there, stick to them. YOU, go and create a game on them. Build something fantastic on them. Maybe then you'll start to appreciate how friendly the lbp approach is because it's very easy to get stuck into it. As someone who created a lot in lbp1, I've been excited for months to get stuck into lbp2. Because there's so much I want to build. Racing games, music, sophisticated menu screens with intros, arcade games, amazing platformers, little RPGs and I can't wait to build my own little world within this game to share with all. I'm excited about the game. Shoot me.

Oh, just FYI....LBP is a LITTLE less limited then MS Paint.

[Dante112]

Lol, and even EDGE gave it a 9.

[pr0digyZA]

There's always one that rates a highly rated game a lower score than others.

[Motorola]

When Edge gives a PS3 game over a 8, you KNOW its good

[Threesix]

Except he gives reasons for why it was scored that way which included, unlike SMG2, little improvement to the controls or the flaws of the previous game. He still calls it a good game and the whining over a measly 1.5 point difference won't alter the enjoyment of anyone who bought the game based on their experience with the last one.

Aka don't go "Wah!" someone doesn't review a game the way you don't want it to be reviewed.

[nycredude]

Are you kidding me. Jim the "douche" Sterling is beyond defending bro. Either he is a retard or he has absolutely the worst taste in video games.

"For all its new gimmicks and flashing lights, LittleBigPlanet 2 can still be best described as a great way to make substandard games'

Those substandard games are better than the crap games he gives 9s on a regular basis...

Just saying... I couldn't care less for him or Destuctoid for that matter. They are amongst the bigger joke site on the internet.

[saladthieves]

Destructoid just made it off my list.

[-MD-]

Lol pathetic. You're writing off an entire website due to them giving your game a 7.5/10 essentially a 75% which is very positive.

[GarandShooter]

@ Murderdolls

What's pathetic is you thinking you know the poster you're replying to well enough to judge him/her. LMFAO at your assumed omniscience.

Maybe this is the last in a long line of things that has put someone off the site, the straw that broke the camel's back so to speak.

Perhaps this individual realizes Destructiod is misaligned with his gaming tastes and chooses to spend time elsewhere.

[UnwanteDreamz]

Wow I think it is more pathetic that you care what he thinks so much. If this guy doesn't like destructoid it is his right. What are you a Internet Nazi?

[saladthieves]

@Murderdolls

Let's be honest. Have you seen what LBP 2 was capable of and it was just in BETA? If a game has the ability to create other games, with tools that are not hard to use, then that game must be awesome. The first game was a success. As for desctructoid, it was just the last nail in the coffin.

[MariaHelFutura]

Everyone has an opinion and they can speak it freely if they choose. BUT.....that doesn`t mean YOU have to take it seriously. The LBP2 Beta IMO was better than some/most full retail games.

[fantasygamer]

Its fine.. Sackboy hates Destructoid anyways..

[awesomeperson]

A whole load of 6.5" plush sackboys should be dropped onto his house -.-

[Strange_Evil]

Just look at what the shmuck writes in his comment section when someone pointed out it's score...

""Same score as Splatterhouse.

Really, Jim?"

You're right. Maybe I scored Splatterhouse too low."

I know it's his opinion but I take his reviews with a pinch of salt. It's like following Yahtzee's advice on buying game. If you hate a particular genre than you should give someone else to review the game. It might be his opinion, but it can lead people into false advice.

Just look at the comment section on the site!!! Geez it's like a heard of sheep following their master. He even gave Assassin's Creed 2 a 4.5!!

[Djinn]

asscreed 2 is shit so whats your point?

[AllyOmega]

But Yahtzee gives great advice. You just have to listen really closely for some of it.

[Keith Olbermann]

LOL. Seriously...the demo I played was at least a 9. With all those extras thrown in and they give it a 7.5?? This smacks of hater.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

Jim Sterling:
''Might lack replay value, could be too short or there are some hard-to-ignore faults,''

That is a big fat lie.

[nskrishna2]

I ain't gonna give the site hits...but just asking...did he really say that LBP lacks replay value?
Like, I mean..for real?
I don't even know what to say..

[samuraiX]

Might lack replay value?

HAHAHAHAHHAHAH

Jim Sterling is an idiot as always.

[dead_eye]

I didn't click on the link. But if he did say that then no need to click bullshit review

[TheLastGuardian]

Over 3 million levels already in the game plus an enormous set of tools for you to make your own games. How in the world does that lack replay value? That's quite the oppposite of lacking replay value. Epic fail from Jim Sterling.

[mastiffchild]

OK, I'm as guilty of it as anyone but it's getting to the point where we should really all stop moaning about people like JS and certainly not keep mentioning his name-it';s what he's after. He's never cared about games or gamers or doing his job and has consistently used his position to bolster a very fragile, fat bloke's ego. This is the only way he can feel important and he deserves our pity rather than our scorn.

Were this an isolated incident I'd take it as red that he just didn't like the game but when you've done the same thing so many times before just for the hits and attention it looks sus. Add to that the fact that the reasons he gives for his docking of points are spurious as all hell and the attention grab is shown for exactly what it is. We shouldn't feed the trolls even when they have a column to legitimise their BS.

I'm never bothering looking or commenting on the guys work again as i5t only encourages the tubby troll. I suggest anyone sick of his self aggrandisement do likewise. AND definitely stop musing the buggers name so often-that's the kind of thing he lives for, sadly.

[ambientFLIER]

Um...I know that you guys are enjoying hating on this guy, but he did NOT say that LBP2 lacks replay value. Here's the quote from the article:

"Score: 7.5 -- Good (7s are solid games that definitely have an audience. Might lack replay value, could be too short or there are some hard-to-ignore faults, but the experience is fun.)"

Nice try, though...

[Pollak]

Nice fake quote there Centauro. What you quoted is the general description of their scoring system.

[darksied]

Um, they gave Super Mario Galaxy 2 (a copy/paste sequel) a 10 (a freakin' ten; the game was good, but a 10?) and they say Little Big Planet 2 is a 7.5? Where's the thinking?

[schlanz]

SMG2 was a ten by many reviewers standards, including IGN, Edge, Eurogamer, Gamespot, Giant Bomb.. It has like the 3rd highest review average of all-time.. not really that unbelievable because the game is actually as close to perfection as games can get.. level design, control, music, pacing, content.. all pretty much bar-setters.

[Eyeco]

these guys have absolutely no credibility didn't they give Assassins creed 2 a 4/10 ?

[HolyOrangeCows]

Sheesh, Jim, I've been liking your reviews lately, but this is BS.

"Other elements, chiefly the game's horribly sloppy physics, really needed fixing but have been left almost intact"
What "sloppy physics"?

"Might lack replay value"
..........what, the, fudge?

@punkpop101
I'm so sick of people like you crying about "PSTREE FANBOIS" taking issue with the "score". The fact is that Jim's criticisms are ridiculous. And SMG2 was a cookie-cutter sequel.

[mitsuhede]

@HolyOrangeCows Ignore these retards, they just obsesses over us ps3 fans because they have nothing better to do lol....seeing how most of these 360 fanboys that spam "ps3 fanboys" in every other article have nothing to play xD.

[punkpop101]

SMG was a great game.As it seems LPB2 was far worse for them.It's their opinion they're not cyting facts or anything.And I'm tired of ps3 fanboys who have removed sites from their list since they started giving low reviews to games they like.

[nycredude]

Bro sure it's their opinion.. please explain to me how "might lack replay value" is an opinion. Cause he strategically placed the word "might"?

STFU about Ps3 fanboys. You don't need to be a fanboys to know this review is full of shit. So STFU and bring some common sense to the conversation instead of classifying every here as Ps3 fanboys.

I am sick and tired of you retards coming here calling everyone out as Ps3 fanboys as if that automatically makes you a better person or gamer.

[mastiffchild]

It's not just PS3 games that JS savages in order to feed his ego, though, so any gamer wanting a credible gaming media should be on his case and especially so when the reasons he gives are pure BS.

Guys craving attention at the expense of what they write about are a cancer on the gaming media and Jim, sadly, is about the biggest tumour currently out there.

[Kalipekona]

@ nycredude

But you guys are indeed PS3 fanboys. You, HolyOrangeCows and other people complaining about being called PS3 fanboys are whining about being called what you really are. It's not just how you are reacting in this article, it's how you act in every article.

No, I don't think LBP2 deserved a 7.5, but you guys never spoke up about obviously unfair, low scores for games like Halo Reach. At those times you guys just jumped on the bandwagon and defended those bogus reviews as valid "opinions". So why doesn't the same apply to PS3 games? There is no way that either Halo Reach or LBP2 deserves a 7.5 in my eyes.

Learn to behave fairly towards all games and all consoles and people won't call you out for your fanboyism.

[SQWERCH]

to go against the pack to stand out and get hits that is all.

[gamerzBEreal17]

"7s are solid games that definitely have an audience. Might lack replay value, could be too short or there are some hard-to-ignore faults, but the experience is fun.)

LBP does not lack replay value the levels are endless so its not to short only hard to ignore fault is the load times and the only reason the load times are so long is because your loading user generated content so it doesn't really know what its loading i think this is why anyway
only reason why this should be a 7 is because im sure the experience will be fun lol they got 2/5 so put every point i made by .5 and u have a 9 ...just how it should be

[Pollak]

Reading comprehension is a a low today I see. The quote you took from the site is the general description of their scoring system. No where in the review did he say the game lacks replay value.

[gamerzBEreal17]

yes its the general description of the score the game was given ...so doesn't that mean thats why they gave it that score? thats the whole point of the comment the game does not fit the general description

if i are any of the people u said the same reply to above would have said that the site said

"little big planet is a solid game that definitely has an audience. lacks replay value, is too short and there are some hard-to-ignore faults, but the experience is fun.)

but we did not say that we said 7s have all these problems and witch little big planet does not therefor it does not deserve a 7 ...obviously

[popup]

Should he not have handed it into teacher to mark instead?

How embarrasing to be so off the mark! Does he expect everyone to believe him as a superior reviewer over the torrent of 90+'s from other more mature sources?

Oh dear.

[Druarc]

Lets face it the guy's a douche, he probably get's off on the hate mail he gets from anyone silly enough to read his "reviews".

[BoNeSaW23]

Nothing to see here folks. FATTY FAT FAT FAT is Trolling for hits again. Move along.

[badz149]

go kill yourself already. you're a disgrace of gaming journalism!

[ps3rider]

i thought they hate ps3 exclusives. they have given gran turismo 5 a 10.
i think the person who have review didnt even know what is going on

[oricon]

I found building levels really great from the beta from my experience i didnt have a fun time playing the game i think thats what hes trying to say, and this is why "gamers" are ruining the industry look these sites dont pay reviewers to write about what they think others will think of the game but what they think.

[MagicAccent]

7.5..? What? Oh wait... It's a "Sterling".
Pass.

[Vherostar]

Wow the 360 fanboys (this site is the biggest fanboys site other than Kotaku) are seriously trying to lower the meta rating..

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

According to Sterling it's relying on a concept that was brilliant 2 years ago.

Okay Sterling, since you just said that, I expect all the sequels you guys review from now on to get shitty scores.

[belal]

hahahaha lol 7.5, these guys must be smoking socks!

[moegooner88]

or it's Jim Sterling, no difference whatsoever

[TheLastGuardian]

Why does Jim Sterling give practically every game such a low score? It's as if he doesn't like video games at all.

[kancerkid]

An opinion is an opinion. There are no two ways about it. There is no reason to get upset guys.

[TLG1991]

i hate it when people say it is an opinion, no it isn't it is a review there is a difference.

say i don't like a certain game and i need to review it i would look at the game with an open mind and actually think about what is actually good even if i dont particularly like the thing personally, not just i don't like it so there for that makes the game rubbish.

these people with these job need to be fired as they dont REVIEW things how it should be.

[redsquad]

So we could have the best game ever, but if the reviewer doesn't like it he's perfectly entitled to give it 3/10 (for example)? How is that helpful?

A reviewer must, for the most part, SET ASIDE their opinion and review what the game is offering (it's technical performance, durabilty etc.)

[mcmmaster]

nah man, he don't give opinions, with the score's Jim gives he actually tells you whether to buy ir or not, i remember the ff13 review was given a 4.0 "Forget It", the man gives dynasty warriors strikeforce a 8.5 telling people to buy it, yet he tells people 2 4get about ff13, biggest load of bull shit there, yes i can agree ff13 was not the best ff, but i still enjoyed it. But Dynasty warriors strikeforce an 8.5, that games is the same copy'd and pasted shit every single release, man needs his brain checked

[Dee_91]

^^ exactly
this isnt a review its an opinion
these site need to fired these "journalist"

[Threesix]

@TLG1991

A review is someone's overall opinion of the various aspects of a game. You're not going to get an objective review because that's not possible for any reviewer to do.

And where did he say that wasn't going to like the game going into it? Did you even read the whole review because it looks like you're just making stuff up.

And of course if a review isn't exactly how you want it to go, then all of a sudden that person's a bad reviewer because they didn't review the game how you think they SHOULD review it? C'mon, that's just childish and shortsighted.

[MariaHelFutura]

People getting mad at an opinion is their own doing an in sorts is a part of their view/opinion. It works both ways....kid. So....I will say to you, don`t get mad at them getting mad over an opinion....see.

[MaideninBlack]

They just gave it a 7.5 for the website hits. Don't fall for it.

[zack61]

This^^^

[kancerkid]

Or they have an opinion that you don't agree with and the only way you could rationalize this was to say they are just looking for hits, like somehow the sites that give games 10/10 (IGN, Gametrailers) don't get hits.

[Christopher]

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...

It's not like this is the only 'trend bucking' review Sterling has ever done. Far from it.

[OllieBoy]

I'm not. I never clicked a Destructoid link in my life.

[GiggMan]

Unfortunately it's working...

[Karooo]

who cares its their opinion.

[pixelsword]

A review isn't an opinion, a review is supposed to be objective, not subjective.

This is the reason why games may/should never be considered art: all facets of it's nomenclature are just too uninformed of basic processes that defined other artistic manifestations in history.

[GiggMan]

I think I understood enough of that to agree with you. lol

[gamer2010]

You're being very naive if you think reviews can be anything but mostly subjective. What's fun? What constitutes a great narrative? I'm sorry but these questions are highly dependent on subjective values.

There are many games and movies that received very low scores from many reviewers yet I completely enjoyed them. Likewise, there are many movies and games that received high praise from the reviewers that I found vapid and boring.

[pr0digyZA]

I dont agree with his review, but i still think it is his opinion and he is entitled to it. I personally will not click on the website, because no one is forcing me to.

@pixelssword I dont get your point. Say 9 out of ten people like a certain music and a reviewer doesn't like it, does that mean that reviewer must put aside his opinion and just agree. I don't think so.

[pixelsword]

@ giggMann:

That goes for me too, lol

@ gamer2010:

It's not naive, do yourself a favor and look at news broadcasts from the 50's and 60's to see what unbiased journalism really is. There were race riots and political strive both domestic and internationally but it was the duty of a journalist to deliver the news without adding their personal opinion to it. Granted, some did fail, but for the time, most journalists delivered some of the best journalism in modern history. Do you think some of those journalists loved the ideal of integration? Do you think some of those journalists loved the barbarism of segregation? No in both areas, but the news was delivered as such as to let the reader form their own opinion based upon the facts presented. A review is slightly different in that they have to grade a piece of art, but in doing so ideally it is done through supporting their points with reasons, not opinions.

Then go directly to Fox News and tell me if that same job can't be done without being biased.

@ pr0digyZA:

No, even if 9/10 people like the music, the reviewer is bound to review the piece without leaning in any direction than what is required of her/him to accurately deconstruct and analyze the music in a way which supports his thesis on whether or not the music is a piece worth listening to or not. The subtleties, perspective of the musician and the listener, category (if any at that the time of the review), and placement of the piece in it's historical and congruent spot in music must be explored and cataloged for the reader of the review to understand why this piece is a worthy piece of music or not.

Listening to it and say "it's good/bad because I like/hate the beat" is what Destructoid and many other people are doing for reviews: under-informing the reader and placing their opinion where is should not be.

[pr0digyZA]

Oh! I get your point I just thought, I looked at a collective source of opinions (reviews) to gather the general consensus of what people thought of a particular game. So if a game averaged very high then I would buy, I certainly would not be put off by three or four bad scores. Also by reading even lower scoring games I would gather from the information provided whether or not the game was for me even if others did not find said game to their taste.

[pixelsword]

@pr0digyZA

Bingo!

Well said!

You gets Bubbles, man!

Even if a game is reviewed poorly, the facts should be presented in a way so people who would not be bothered by those facts would still buy the game, and even if it reviewed well, those same facts from even a positive review would make some people not buy the game.

[XabiTheHumble]

Thanks for the info pixelsword, I learned something today. I will give you a bubble.

[gta2800]

@gamer2010

A movie can have great special effects, cinematography, great acting but you may think the movie was boring...does that mean you will deny the great special effects, acting, etc etc? and say say all that was boring? I've seen a lot of movies that had all those great qualities that seemed to make them a classic...felt the movie was boring but I acknowledged all the good things about the film and if I was a film critic I wouldn't make the movie loose points just cause my mind couldn't connect with the movie and get into it. A good movie is a good movie..if you can't get into the movie then that's just you..doesn't mean the movie sucks. And in terms of game reviews...games "suck" just cause one person disliked something it about although the game might have a lot of great technical aspects that if rated just on that it would get a great score...but throw a persons opinion into it and that great masterpiece can turn into a piece of crap just cause the other persons eyes couldnt see beauty.

[Kalipekona]

You don't get it. Things like "great acting" or nice "cinematography" are still mostly subjective judgments.

Moreover, those elements are not what people go to watch a movie for. If I wrote a review and just said that I thought it had great acting and beautiful cinematography readers still wouldn't have any idea whether it is a movie they might enjoy.

That is why good reviewers will explain how a game or movie made them feel and why. The actual judgement of the game will always be subjective. What is important is that the reviewers explains clearly why the game made them feel that way. That way the reader can understand exactly why that particular reviewer felt the way they did and can judge for themselves whether those elements will affect them the same way.

[OllieBoy]

Destructoid are geniuses because this will give them hits.

Too bad nobody will take the review seriously.

Same score he gave Splatterhouse...

lol what a douche

[Bathyj]

"Same score he gave Splatterhouse... "

Well if thats not an indication not to be taken seriously, I dont know what is.

[thebudgetgamer]

hey look at me im different, shut up!

[OllieBoy]

Looks like it's Jim Sterling's review.

Surprise surprise...

[thebudgetgamer]

:
http://www.motifake.com/ima...

[pixelsword]

lol

[Lirky]

destructoid isnt even a gaming website.

[Threesix]

Yes, this is why they have nothing on their site except video game related news and content. Totally not a video game website.

[Lirky]

There not a gaming website because they wouldn't take a videogame seriously in terms of respecting videogames as a amazing way to feel entertained.

[Ashriel]

That doesn't make sense.

[waltyftm]

Fail.

[Valkyre]

Everyone who falls for such hits-attempts is a retard. Plain and simple. If you people didnt bother biting the bait each and every time, then such articles wouldnt exist...

[Tommykrem]

I'm sure 7.5 were their honest opinion. No bribes, or attempt to generate hits or such...
I'm also quite sure that the reviewers are communists who hate LBP2 for giving you freedom!

[redsquad]

It's my genuine, absolute 'honest opinion' that HALO is an overated series of blandness... does that make me entitled to write a review of it, dismiss what it DOES offer and peddle that review as somehow legit?

I wouldn't be so arrogant.

[Tommykrem]

Everyone is entitled to write a review. A review is a subjective opinion. Of course when you're paying a reviewer to review a game in front of a large number of readers, then you have to be aware in what ways your personal taste differs from the average taste.

Reading this review, I can't see any "Sackboy is gay" or "I don't like platformers so this game misses the top score" sort of comments, so I think he just honestly has a different opinion. Hell if I agree with it though, and that's why I took the liberty of calling him and all his friends for communists.

[ps3360games]

lbp2 has more 10s than 9s 8s or 7.5s
lbp2 has a Metascore of 94

[ipe]

no hits from me. I just dont get how can u give game like lbp anything below 8. Im not biggest fan of game but ive played first one and its great platformer with great creation tools and millions of levels.

[darksied]

I agree, I'm also not the biggest LBP fan. I didn't finish the first game and probably won't buy the 2nd, but not because I dislike it; I just don't have the time to put into it's creation tools or user made levels. BUT I can see how it's unique and creative, and I can't see how they (destructoid) can give Mario Galaxy 2 a perfect 10 while this game gets a 7.5. Especially after reading the review, it looks more like someone either wanting publicity for going against the other reviews (which are raving about the game) or someone who just hated the first and doesn't want to like the 2nd.

[dkgshiz]

Still, its from a site that you can't really take seriously. They sometimes give out joke reviews on purpose.

[LoLZoRz]

lol destructoid attention whores

[Tikicobra]

I personally don't care for LittleBigPlanet, but this review is obviously for the controversy, seeing as it's from Jim Sterling.

[frosted_july]

Plain Simple :
This is not Journalism This is SH.......T

[artsaber]

* Squirks up face * C'Mon Son! You give LBP2 a 7.5 son?! C'Mon Son!

GTFO with that 7.5

http://twitpic.com/qlmmq

edit: LOL @ the stalking disagreers

[zerox505]

destructoid= fail

[Petro89]

Destructoid has been going downhill ever since Robert Summa left.

They're nothing without that guy at the helm.

[awesomeperson]

Sorry, I just had to give them a hit to get the LOL's out of the comment section.

Everyones sucking up to Sterling like- great review! I'm not gonna buy it till the GOTY edition becomes cheap. Another awesome review from sterling etc.

God, people are sheep. (And probably wannabe mods or something)

[IPUMPMYGUN]

The majority of reviews are 9's and 10's. Let's leave it at that. If the majority reviews are outstandingly good that out weighs the negatives, then I'm not going to complain. Not everyone is going to like the game, but I'd think 7.5 is too low.

Remember, the past few years are about shooters. Games franchises like Call of Duty and Halo are recycled garbage and still get great marks. These franchises have produced two of the shittiest series' every made with the exception of Call of Duty 4. Too many glitches, hackers, freezing and the these games still pull of 9's. I will never understand this.

[Godmars290]

What do you expect from Sterling?

"Might lack replay value"

Seriously?

[yoghurt]

does it really say that?
brilliant, a game which already has millions of levels and now will have many more, a game which you can create a game and it lacks replay value...

[MUHAHAHAHAAHAHA]

sony is gonna add this site to its black list ;)

[rmedtx888]

This is the worst review you can imagine. They are not to be taken seriously. They might be doing this just to get more traffic to their site. Don't indulge them with that.

[BrianC6234]

I hate Jim Sterling. That moron shouldn't be allowed to review any games. How can such a hack even keep a job? Does he ever have anything good to say? A 7.5 for LBP2 is a disgrace.

[DelbertGrady]

Seems like the floaty and inacurrate platform controls are still there.

Sterling should have cred for pointing it out. No matter how much you could create in the first one it didn't matter since the controls were broken, which killed the gameplay. LBP is no Mario, not even close.

[jammydude]

and Mario is no LBP, not even close. In fact in LBP2 you can customise both the physics and controls of the game so complaining about that is TARDED.

No matter how much you try, there is no where near the content, depth, online community, customisability, graphical fidelity etc. in any mario game as there is in LBP2

[clintos59]

U can also say the same for mario. No mario game ever created comes close to the creativity LBP2 has to offer, NOT EVEN CLOSE. Atleast we can re create mario games which mario u cannot ever re create anything near to what LBP2 tools offer. Heck I can even add mario music into anything I creat in LBP2.

[goflyakite]

@24 fail troll is fail.

[dead_eye]

How were the controls broken? Did they not perform like mario.

Why do all games have to control the same way. The controls were fine for me. sackboy did everything I wanted how i wanted.

[T3mpr1x]

You're forgetting though, that those floaty jumping physics do not matter as much this time around, because you'll be playing games that do not require direct movement of Sackboy, which results in tighter controls.

[mushroomwig]

Usually I don't think twice about scores, but this is just ridiculous, no other site has given the game such a score like this, so why all of a sudden now? It's not like they were given a different copy to review.

So either they're completely serious about the score or they just want more traffic for their site, either way it's insane.

[the_manson_charles]

"concept that was brilliant two years ago"

i agree.. this game have no more appeal in gamers in this days.

[MariaHelFutura]

This game sh!ts on LBP1 and LBP1 is my favorite new IP of this gen. In all reality LBP2 is probably one of the biggest "steps forward" for a sequel this generation.

[the_manson_charles]

all those people who think that I'm judging a book by its cover, that's completely UNTRUE, since I have actually played LBP wich was a waste of a whole bunch of money if you ask me. Oh and I'm not the only one who hates pussy-games, there's lots and lots of people who don't like them.

[madjedi]

@manson typical american cod/halo meat head male calling lbp a pussy game because your not killing something, no one here really cares how masculine you are/claim to be.

Comeback when your older, and a little more mature, and your posts actually make sense, you know decent spelling and word usage.

[awesomeperson]

Ok Manson, what new and innovative games do you enjoy playing?

[dkgshiz]

Gametrailers. They actually do in depth reviews that explain things.

[AssassinHD]

"All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others."

-Douglas Adams

[Jac5al]

"concept that was brilliant two years ago"

..... Cod hasn't changed for 4 years now, so why should the concept of LBP change?

[GSpartan777]

You hit the nail on the head man.

[clintos59]

A reason why I dont take reviews serious anymore because it proves there is always going to be game sites that try and nitpick the hell out of a game even though its the best in its genre u will find on any console, GT5 already has proven that.

DC Universe Online is a game that has caught me off gaurd with just how fun and underrated it is but I bet the media will chew it up since it isnt on the 360. I could give a rats anus what reviews say, tomorrow is going to be an amazing start for 2011 with DC Universe Online & LBP2 will keep my ps3 running up my electricity bill along with all the other ps3 hitters coming this year.

[Pollak]

LBP2 best in the platforming genre?!? It may have some impressive creation tools but I would take Mario Galaxy over LBP2 any day.

[Snatcher]

Stfu guys.

Destructiod gave God of War III a 10/10

And Gran Turismo 5 10/10.

They are not fanboys, if they were, why so high scores for other PS3 exclusives? This game lacks something.

[mushroomwig]

It lacks something? Strange, every other reviewer didn't seem to think that.

That's why people are confused, literally every other review has been between 8.5 and perfect 10, and suddenly this site gives the lowest score yet.

[Biggest]

What is it lacking, Snatcher? Is it one of those made-up things that you can't say or else look like a complete moron? It's been quoted that Sterling questions the replayability of LBP2. That one quote says: HAY GUYZ! I WUNT ATTN NOWZ!"

[UP]

those reviews were not done by jim.

[visualb]

"This game lacks something."

yeah lacks mediocrity

[DundahMifflin]

LOL, owned.

[mushroomwig]

I think we'll all forgetting one thing though, 7.5 is still a good score.

[theafroman]

it is a good score even jim said it was a good game.
but to most people nowadays scores are 9 or 10 anything lower is garbage.

[blackburn5]

A 7.5 out of so many 9s and 10s. Nothing to blow a gasket over. Doesn't even phase me. LBP2 here I come. Can't wait to see what people do with the creation power MM has given us. @ Snatcher why don't you stfu? One score from one game has nothing to do with another, We don't agree that 7.5 is satisfictory.

[telekineticmantis]

Before everyone goes on with the complaining and complaining...
It's destructoid. When have they ever given a fair, reasonable review to a big Ps3 game????? Jim sterling is not a critic... he's a hater, haters will latch on to something they hate and never stop hating, and the more successful or great the thing they hate becomes... the more they will hate. Simple.

To further elaborate and prove this, LBP2 is almost everygame you wanna play on one disc.... That's all.

My point being= DON'T GIVE HIS SITE HITTTTTSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

[Threesix]

"It's destructoid. When have they ever given a fair, reasonable review to a big Ps3 game?"

God of War 3: 10/10 - http://www.destructoid.com/...

Gran Turismo 5: 10/10 - http://www.destructoid.com/...

"Jim sterling is not a critic... he's a hater"

He says in the review that it's a "good game." Do you not know the meaning of the word hatred?

"My point being= DON'T GIVE HIS SITE HITTTTTSSSSS!"

That's not Jim Sterling's site. He doesn't own it.

Yeah so anyways, you might want to start thinking before you say something.

[telekineticmantis]

What was that supposed to mean his reasons for deducting points make no sense. I don't just look at scores I read them. Think about that.

[silkrevolver]

...I just think he’s childish.

[redblack]

devono sempre rovinare la media questi siti..

[Masterchef2007]

wow what a terrible review. SO much bias and i havent even read the whole thing only the header

[MatthewMk2]

Another top-notch review Jim.

[Sizzon]

Lol the first 7.5, that's crazy and insane, I mean how the fuck can you give a game such as LBP 2 with so much content in it a freaking 7.5? are you fucking kidding me? lol gtfo with that bullshit.

[djreplay]

What annoy's me the most is when people question the jumping, let's just have the same jump height as mario shall we cause that's what this reviewer wants.

Also complaining about the physic's when everything is made out of cloth.

[UP]

Does anyone else think that destructoid should have two reviews for each game one by jim and another by someone else. All of the reviews not done by jim go to MC and the reviews by jim go to jimcritic.

[theafroman]

don't agree with the score but a good read though.

[GodHandDee]

Biggest Troll in gaming journalism....sign on what it has become

such people make Metacritic lose credibility as well, truly pathetic

[Zephyrus_808]

Seeing as things such as 'quality' and 'fun' are subjective, he has the right to post whatever review score he wants. However, it doesn't mean you have to acknowledge it.

[ironmonkey]

fuck this guy.

[neil90]

The legend jim sterling. You are still my favorite writer. It isn't because you are a good writer but because you are insane. Literally, you are crazy. Keep up the good work though. Write another good editorial about how your feelings are hurt because ps3 fanboys are idiots.

[DEADEND]

Fact your a moron.

[neil90]

I wish I was a moron. But alas I would have used 'you're' a moron if that was a case. When someone is an idiot like most people on n4g. They tend to be unable to write.

[GuruStarr78]

LoL.. I just could not wait to see all the ps3 fanboys who have not even played this game yet, try and dispute this score, because in their minds it should be a 9 or 10, even though they've never even played it yet.

[NIRVANArazor]

I have played it im in the beta and this score is complete BS. no really id give it at least a 9 it is very good.
but i have to say 7.5 is still good just not what it deserves.

[T-K47x]

Wow just taking a moment to look at all these comments,there are a lot of people who are truly upset about this review. The guy has a fair point thought tbh, I had the first LBP when it came out and thought it was a pretty cool game something that hadn't really been done before but it had its fair share of bugs and problems, such as the jumping being really awkward at times, the very long loading times and sometimes the create mechanics. People could say that this is just nitpicking but actually it isn't its quite a big problem. 2 years on and pretty much the same game has been released but with some new enhancements, like in the review it is still the same core gameplay with its problems so of course it should be marked down. After all its 7.5/10 which is still a decent score, just that a lot of people think it should be given 10/10 for every review. I can't understand why people have slated this reviewer to bits just because he is being honest about it and giving a fair judgement. I'm not a 360 fanboy Ive had a PS3 for nearly 4 years and I'm still loving it, but it seems that quite a lot of you here commenting actually are in some sense fanboys and cant stand to see their game be given a non perfect score. I know I'll get a negative score for this comment as you also think Im "trolling" "360 fanboy" etc, im just saying a lot of people are being way too over the top about this.

[Ashby_JC]

Welcome to N4G.

All you have to do is go thru comments. Anything with HIGH disagrees are usually comments that make sense and try and rationalize the fact that a 7,5 is not a bad score.

The comments with HIGH agrees are the ones bashing the writer or saying that destructiod is crapola etc.

Same exact thing happened when GT5 got ANYTHING below a 9.

Common theme...this and GT5 are PS3 exclusives and fanboys and loyalist believe that ALL PS3 exclusives should rate a 9 or higher.

Its quite sad and amusing at the same time.

All the reviews for LBP2 that have 9s and 10s...no HEAT.

Give it a 7.5 (which by the way is considered a good solid game) ALL H#LL breaks loose up in here!!!

LMAO!

[finnhima]

Any comment that makes sense and tries to "rationalize" the 7.5 are the one with the most disagrees? You're funny. Stupid, but funny.

Just because people don't agree with a guy who's known for starting un-necessary controversial scores for the sole sake of hits DOES NOT make them irrational.

Don't even.

[xstation79]

The SDF just doesn't get much breaks these days.

[VictoriousB13]

"HIS SCORE FOR THE GAME IS LOWER THAN THE AVERAGE ON METACRITIC DERP!"

You guys are so hurting about this review. It's pathetic seeing gamers hate on journalists because their opinion differs from your own. Grow up, seriously.

[SpaceFox]

What a bullshit review. Not checking out the site but from what I've read I can't tell if he's serious or just plain trolling.

[Trroy]

Wow. Kinda hard to understand this review, except that Destructoid kinda seems to go somewhat against the grain, solely for the purpose of hits.

[negroguy]

Im confused on the "lacks replay value". This is LBP, user created content comes every hour. From the videos you can almost make anything you'd like. There will be millions of levels to chooose from and the user can create whatever is in their imagination too. I'm very confused about that statement.

[midgard227]

lmao, destructoid is like the gay dude choosing who is the most gorgeous model, u just dont send a gay dude to do a straight mans job, so this site can be singled out and odd while all the rest make sense

[visualb]

*watches destructoid like the fat kid flailing his fat about in the middle of the crowd trying to get someone's attention....*

[metsgaming]

I refuse to give them hits, do they at least give a reason for the score or are they just trolls?

[Psychic_Waffle]

Well, I read the review. Funnily enough this is the only one I've read (watched a few video reviews, though).

I just want to say that this review isn't really slamming LBP2. The reviewer definitely zones in on what he sees as faults in the game, carried over from the first LBP, but overall the review is appreciative of LBP2.

The score obviously seems harsh in light of the majority of other reviews, and without the attached score, I doubt many would find the reviewer's analysis of the game offensive at all. However, according to their scoring system, the actual review does fall in line with the score given.

But there really isn't any formula to translating a written review to a numerical grade that will accurately represent everything the game has to offer.

Disagree with the numbers all you want (I know I often do), but read the review and whatever you think of that will matter more than any number.

[Ashby_JC]

The problem is. Most WONT take the time to read it. And if they did they will pull one or two comments and highlight that.

Never played LBP and most likely never will play LBP2. But if I had played them and loved them...a 7.5 wouldnt get me bent out of shape so it boggles my mind why so may get offended like someone slapped there momma in the mouth!

[finnhima]

People are allowed to voice their dislike of a review especially when the reviewer in question is a known fool who purposely makes his opinions different from the general consensus for the sole reason of starting shit.

And for someone who's never played lbp period, why are you even bothering? And who are you to say that they we can't get turned off by such a shill review?

[eferreira]

wow this guy is a attention whore

[PlayerX]

As soon as I saw this I knew the N4G would rage. It's like the fanboys can't accept that every exclusive is not a 10 or even 9.

[silkrevolver]

... both are equally unqualified in my opinion... one of them just happens to be in shape.

Edit: Whoops. Oh well, it doesn’t matter where he’s from. All that matters is that he’s unprofessional and his scores are a bit of a joke... and by “a joke” I mean they are hit grabs. I don’t claim that he’s biased against the PS3, because he’s not, I’m just claiming that his reviews are nothing more than internet fodder.

[PirateThom]

Isn't Jim Sterling Australian?

[JonnyBigBoss]

I disagree with several points he makes. Oh, and I've been smashing Jim Sterling on the scoreboards for each level. What can I say. :D

[A change in the wind]

Sterling is just that guy who tries to be different. He`s that guy who thinks he is better, or edgy just because he goes against the norm, desperately trying to give off the appearance that he knows more than everybody else. Newsflash Sterling, you`re just a douche, nobody likes you and your opinions don`t matter. Not giving him a hit.

[Figboy]

Strike 1: Destructiod
Strike 2: Jim Sterling
Strike 3: Jim Sterling REVIEW

Yeah, I didn't even need to read the article to know it was a Jim Sterling review.

I tuned out Destructoid YEARS ago. I have no desire to ever give that site the time of day EVER.

It's a shame that sites like Destructoid pass for legitimate gaming news sites. I've seen BLOGS with more integrity than this gutter trash website.

[T-K47x]

Pretty much says it all, people who are calling him a douche etc but yet they haven't even read the review? Im not saying this deserves 7.5/10 I think it falls around 8.5-/9/10 but its defiantly not a perfect game.

[Teh_Chicken]

you're all fucking morons.

[the_manson_charles]

yep.. remember Teh_Chicken@

it's n4g for you..

[mitsuhede]

@teh_chicken I think I get what your saying.

[Djinn]

Lets face it LBP isn't much of a game and the "game that is there is EXTREMELY mediocre. I mean, who the fuck wants to create games instead of playing them? Well, its a PS3 exclusive. I should be happy its getting high scores....

[P_Bomb]

Who? Umm, where do you think the games you play come from? Someone has to make 'em, and odds are they enjoy it otherwise they wouldn't put in the education and time to learn the craft. What's the difference?

That's like saying "Lets face it, who the #%&* wants to create music when you can just listen to it?" Some people wanna do both.

...

[Inzo]

Djinn-"I mean, who the fuck wants to create games instead of playing them?"

P_Bomb-"Umm, where do you think the games you play come from?"

That made me laugh!!!!!!

@Djinn, didnt really think that comment through did you?

[Djinn]

So, would your rather, say, work two-3 years on Uncharted 3 or wait and just play it? You know what why am I even bothering? You people are idiots...

[Yehshuah]

ouch!

[Dannycr]

I'm going to say this again:

I stop reading Destructoid when Ron Douchbag Workman posted an insult to MGS fans and PS3 users there stating that MGS4 was coming to the 360 but in the most fanboy, childish and actually insulting way for all of us who actually have a PS3 and have been enjoying it for years. Wanna read it?

http://www.destructoid.com/...

A website who hires such a tool (he claimed he's a high ranked employee on Microsoft) to write such a horrible "article" doesn't deserve anything but hate

[Figboy]

The comment section in that article is fricking HILARIOUS.

Especially seeing that we are now in 2011, and the many comments about it being "the final nail in the PS3 coffin," and "PS3 = officially dead," make me laugh so, SO HARD.

So, how's that MGS4 coming to 360 rumor treating you guys?

I can't wait to play Mass Effect 2 and 3 on my PS3!

(for the record, I actually own Mass Effect 1, and 2 on my 360, and I'll more than likely get part 3 on my 360, just to have the trilogy on one console, but I'm still tempted to pick up the PS3 versions of 2 and 3 at some point in the future).

[clrlite]

I'm not giving that website hits. I'll have to take your word for it Dannycr.

One thing though. The author might have gotten exactly what he wanted, because this article is now 570 degrees. Think about it next time guys.

[Dannycr]

Definitely, and well, it's stupid to post the link and give it more hits, but I like to use it as evidence of the kind of things that get posted by the so-called "titans" of videogame websites and so-called "insiders".

Serves the purpose of evidence with the downside of giving hits.

[KillingAllFanboys]

I am just amazed at the complainer. First you guys complain about IGN giving the game a 9 or at any other website giving it a 9, then this website giving it a 7.5...I know that you guys are extemely mad now, but really we only get one more week left until we get to play the game, by then I will be playing LBP2, I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT ANY REVIEWER SAYS I WILL BE HAVING FUN WITH THE GAME, also we cant even judge the game guys so cant we just wait a week before we go crazy over a review. Just saying :P

[GeneGodHand]

Who cares about this review lol the rest got 10s and 9s and his is 7.5 obviously he did it for hits and is a 360 fanboy.

[P_Bomb]

Typical mirror-world score from Sterling. I guess he likes being pigeon-holed as "that guy".

The physics he can't stop complaining about CAN BE TWEAKED to your liking in create mode Sterling, that's how they pull off space shooters etc. Nice that you noticed that. Oh wait, you didn't. Mm said they didn't change it as a default because it would mess up the 3 million levels from LBP1 they're porting over. You didn't mention that either.

Here's the kicker. He's complaining that LBP fan-made levels are poor as a whole and can't compete with your average "real" videogame level. Wow, way to insult the whole community, from the Calculator guy to all the people that made full midi songs and working pianos with intonation from literally nothing.

He expects fans I guess to hire Harry Gregson Williams to do the music, Kojima to produce the level design, Naughty Dog to step in and help fans with the snow effects the way they helped GuerillaGames on KZ3, and to get an education in C++ programming while they're at it. All out of pocket. I didn't know the point of LBP was to build Final Fantasy 15 and put Square outta business, but that's what you get from Sterling.

So in the end LBP2 = 7.5/10 (site's disclaimer notes that 7 means a game may lack replayability or be too short, lol)...but Deadly Premonition = 10/10.

And there it is.

[shammgod]

HAHAHA, the guy from destructoid is fat

[ElementX]

Gabe Jr. strikes again!

[GSpartan777]

:O Don't you dare call this guy Gabe Jr. Gabe Newell = A God of video games.

[GSpartan777]

"I just saw it. N4G are the biggest bunch of babies in the gaming community. They make all gamers look terrible." - He makes gaming journalism look like a joke. It's not just N4G other people in gaming journalism have told him before that he can't be taken serious.

N4G 1-0 Jim Sterling

"Oh N4G, keep herping your derps!" - Someone sounds hurt

N4G 2-0 Jim Sterling

"N4G is where logic goes to get raped. Then it dies. Then it's raped again." - Coming from a guy who writes articles as if he snuck his way into Destructoid coming from N4G

N4G 3-0 Jim Sterling

"Just been accused of blasphemy for not giving LBP2 "something above a 9." My derp has been herped!" - Hmmm he sounds a bit hurt.

N4G 4-0 Jim Sterling

"Oh yeah, the Dtoid thread is pleasantly mellow and reasonable on the whole. N4G has lost its mind, however (again)." - You okay man?

N4G 5-0 Jim Sterling

"It's a pathetic turn of affairs when 7.5 is a "controversial" score. Have some fucking ambition with your outrage, because that's petty." - Oops, he's lost it.

N4G 6-0 Jim Sterling

I didn't know this guy had feeling. But looks like he does read N4G and takes some of criticism quite seriously and gets pissed off to have to tweet stuff like this to make N4G look bad <- LOL make N4G look bad, not even possible. Trolls successfully trolling a troll in gaming journalism. <3 N4G!

[Lionalliance]

Oh...it's just Jim.

[Throwaway2020]

Remind me why it's cool to give games scores lower than they deserve. You don't get this shit nearly as often as with movie reviews. This is why I so often despise "gaming journalism".

[BABY-JEDI]

You are really reviewing your own self. This being within the context of your own imagination & creativity, & also your general interest within the medium of game design.
So Jim that is how much you grade yourself. Pity... Maybe if LBP had a specialist tool for hot air design you would have given it 10/10

[Re-versed]

[phone]

[ps3rider]

Did they test it, actually i want to know did the server start. who the hill is he that review such a masterpiece

[Evolve]

Whatever, troll. no one cares.

[Inzo]

Well it was bound to happen, someone was going to give this game an avg score it is coincidence that it came from Destructoid.

[prettyboy1]

is this review serious?i mean i played the beta,the game is almost flawless in every way,wut more could u ask for?so much stuff to do and make,destructoid is officially attention whores

[Silly gameAr]

I don't get into the game review and metacritic bulls**t, but we all know what this is. I feel bad because I know this isn't the last game this year that will get a review that is obviously bullsh*t.

[fooltheman]

What I do find that most levels in lbp fail because the person who makes them knows what to do or how to do...
but fails to explain it to the ones who need to play it.

[NumOnePS3FanBoy]

i hate these guys, they shoudlnt even be considered worthy of being entered in metacritic... they are a joke.

[BABY-JEDI]

Maybe Jim should have made a level about a BIG FAT TROLL under a bridge. Then he would have given it a 10/10.

[Ginbe]

metacritic thanks this rewiew going down hehe

[Re-versed]

they gave LBP1 8.5...So as a fan of LBP i know right from the start that i dont agree with them... ''Destructoid-brutally honest reviews'' hahahah what a joke!

[Re-versed]

Just take a look at his passionate empathy about LBP2,and question yourshelf if this reviewer is legimate to review a game for you...

Diegas
Same score as Splatterhouse.

Really, Jim?

Jim Sterling
"Same score as Splatterhouse.

Really, Jim?"

You're right. Maybe I scored Splatterhouse too low

[Manberg900]

See, I told all my friends this game would be garbage. It's juat as useless as the last. No one wants to have to make their own video games. How about Media Molecule actually make a game with it's own levels.

[Inzo]

"How about Media Molecule actually make a game with it's own levels."

Now thats how I know you have never played the game, LBP does indeed have its own levels, LBP2 even more so, stop reacting on what other people think they know about the game and do some homework on it and find out what the game is really about and also its not Mm's fault that this game is too smart for your imagination. Just saying. ;)

[prettyboy1]

Manberg900#90 dude u suk at trollin and at life.reason for 1 if u knew anything about lbp u would kno that thier r already levels made in the first place......yeah its called SINGLE PLAYER U DOUCH!

[NeloAnjelo]

Guys we know this game will be great. A 7.5 review doesn't hurt this game in anyway. I have pre-ordered, and regardless of what any reviewer says, all that matters is my opinion, and how I feel when I play. If its half as good as LPB then I'm satisfied...

And we all know it will be better than the first!

[ReBurn]

That's how it is with any game. It doesn't matter what any reviewers say. What matters is whether you like it or not.

[renato]

Big fat liar....

Ok, you're need all atencion? Ok you dit'it!!

And now, FUCK OFF.

[reddeadite]

f-f-f-fail review from a f-f-f-fail attention-seeking fucked up site

[Ashby_JC]

WOW you PS3 loyalist are sure sensitive when it comes to your games.

I have seen quite a few LBP2 reviews over the last week or so, all are a 9 and higher and also have low comments.

But at soon as one person scores it below a 9 and respectful 7.5 my add somehow thats BAD!

Its one mans opinion...sheesh!!!

OMG...he is wrong yadda yadda...this gmae is the shiznit...no way its a 7.5 blah blah...destructiod sucks....yadda yadda....

You never see low rated 360 games get this much heat. I wonder why?

[mitsuhede]

Blah, blah, blah lol no one gives a fuck about what you say. Just keep with the ps3 fanboy loyalist bullshit. It wont stop people from saying whatever the fuck they want to say lol. Move on...people like yourself continue to complain about ps3 fanboys and yet....you still use this site lol..Gtfo man.

[Dude_]

I find it ironic you're calling him out like that and say 'It wont stop people from saying whatever the fuck they want to', when all those angry typing folks got pissed at Sterling and yet he will surely 'keep on saying whatever the fuck he wants to', I'm also willing to bet many of them did visit his website when he gave GT5 and GoW3 10/10, lulz.

[mitsuhede]

Um yeah...that was really funny..(your not funny). Anyways, your point? As if my point made about him doesn't still stand lol. The only thing you did was change the subject.

[Dude_]

Not funny, ironic.

Sorry my point wasn't obvious to you, I meant you shouldn't call the kettle black. I didn't change the topic, I was drawing analogies, and pointing out your ironic approach.

[Kalipekona]

Don't even waste your time, Dude111. Most of these fanboys don't even understand things like analogies or logic in general. That is why they are always behaving so irrationally.

@ jcaashby

You are absolutely right about negative 360 articles never getting this much heat. Every week there are dozens and dozens of negative 360 articles, but they never blow up with hundreds of comments because it seems 360 fans know that there are always going to be criticisms about anything. When Halo Reach got a low score, for example, there wasn't nearly the kind of hysterical reaction as we are seeing with this LBP2 review.

[Ashby_JC]

@ Mitsuhede

You start off saying...no one gives a fuck about what I say.

BUT you took the time to respond to my opinion and comments.

ANd I wouldnt call what I write a complaint its more of an observation on what I see on this site.

And what I said is my opinion that im sure some will agree and some will disagree.

And another thing....the cussing and hostility is VERY immature.

[Ashby_JC]

@Kalipekona

What I wrote is an observation I see on this site.

I dare anyone to say otherwise. PS3 loyalist are very sensitive when it comes to what scores there games get.

Like you said. Games like Gears or Halo get a low score....you dont see the heat like a PS3 game getting a low score.

I dont seem to remember any heat when the same site gave 10s out to some PS3 games. But give a game a 7.5 (which is good i might add) and all hell breaks loose!!!

Dare I say the pro 360 fans are more mature?? But that would be stereotyping...I wont do that.

[KurdGamer]

this is all I have to say to this http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[peeps]

I started to realise Destructiod wasn't a serious site when they awarded deadly premonition 10/10 after writing a review full of sarcasm

[tdinc]

Destructoid, you are as reliable a 1 ply shit paper

[Holeran]

What some people will do for hits is amazing. Just don't go onto the site when you see bullocks such as this on the link.

[christoph203]

Jim is a reviewer who dosn't like change in the video games industry. I noticed he said he hated heavy rain aswell cause it tried to evolve video gaming abit.. LBP2 is another game that will shake the industry and hopefully make it more creative.. so don't take the review to seriously. having said that Jim sterling is quite a funny guy and I do enjoy certain posts from him. but our idea of a good game and his idea (halo, some generic shooter?) is alot different.

[ReBurn]

I'll reserve judgment until more reviews are available and I've had a chance to play it myself. I'm still waiting on the demo download to finish, so hopefully I'll be able to try it out tonight.

[insomnium2]

You never get hits from me like this. Sorry Destructoid. Ask someone else.

[Roozium]

Ohman, look at all these butthurt fanboys. Haha, it's hilarious!

[Dice01]

Nigga please, majority of these people are laughing at the situation. Go somewhere with your no life trolling ass.

[rucky]

Big deal, only 360 fanboys goes to that site nowadays. If you're a PS3 owner do you seriously go to that site for reliable PS3 reviews? lol cmon now

[divideby0]

Destructoid who goes to that site anyway..
I just had to check gamerankings to see how much of an outlyer this review was...10 reviews, lowest was a 85, all the rest were above 90 and 4 out of them were 95 +

destructoid, major fail

[strickers]

Stop commenting on here,all of you.Let this review die.
Sterling is,and always has been an idiot but you are all fuelling his fire and giving Destructoid hits/attention.
earthbounding
you are more pathetic than most and should be ignored.

[kesvalk]

destructoid isn't worth all this comments -_-

[Berzf]

I really don't like the destructoid review scores.
Destructoid's 7.5 is pretty much the same as average reviewer 8.5-8.9 score..

[btk]

The "reviewers" and the PS3. Gotta love it. This gen it has been a real eye opener how the media can really tear into a platform they don't want to succeed. This gen will be remembered for the amazing reasons reviewers came up with to justify their scores when it as transparent to all what their reasons was.

- Too much diversity
- Was brilliant two years ago (but give games that look near exactly the same as 3 versions ago higher scores)

The faked screenshots - remember the one that claimed better XB360 screenshot - but forgot that the XB360 does not have X,O buttons on the controller
The metacritic scores of games like FF that is higher on XB360 than PS3 - but acknowledged that PS3 version is better in side by side reviews
RUSE - where they omitted the Move in the review because XB360 did not have the same options....

No sirree Bob... no bias in the media this gen...

[troncoparati]

Jim is so jaded that anything gaming related that's popular he'll review as a turd just to spite the crowds. Apparently someone told him that being the "Fat Angry Ass-hole" was the appropriated role for him to take so people would like him.

[guigsy]

How fickle fanboys can be. Destructoid were worshipped for giving GT5 a perfect score last month, and now they are blacklisted for giving LBP2 a less than favourable score.