Black Ops multiplayer: 'Crap weapons, crap maps and cheaters'

CVG: In our last Mailbox Daniel Bolton gave his somewhat scathing opinion on Red Dead Redemption's Undead Nightmare.

This week David Lucas assesses Black Ops' multiplayer in issue 100 of Xbox World 360, and it doesn't fare much better we're afraid.

If you stopped playing Modern Warfare 2 because you were sick of the cheats, glitchers and the lack of balance then don't buy Black Ops. It. Is. Awful.

[Tachyon_Nova]

So on other words the guys just a dickhead contrarian who always has to disagree with popular opinion

[Nicaragua]

or black ops is shit, I choose the latter.

[Iamback]

Bo is first COD game i got addicted to. I tried playing MW2 last night, and i just can't. It is so broken and noob friendly and i can't tolerate it. You can headshot someone from across the map with worst assault rifle, plus snipers are over powered, also shotguns. Hate it.
BO might have problems but it is only COD that doesn't bend over to noobs, other then gayc cars that need to be removed since that is nood friendly sh.t

[Washington-Capitals]

PC gaming is prone to everything that this guy is complaining about, cheating and glitching? I'll find you 500 PC games that are not call of duty related that have those problems. Maps might be an issue but thats a personal opinion and i will respect it. Balancing? I think the game is balanced its not like people can have specific weapons for one team. Everyone has the opportunity to use the same weapon and class setup. Regardless, i dont care about other people's hatred towards black ops, i bought the game for $50 and i am enjoying it a lot regardless of popular opinion and hatred towards the game.
/rant

Im not afraid to speak my mind on n4g, it seems that some people blindly follow a group of radical fanboys. The culture here needs to change, people need to stop being biased towards certain things without any reason just for the hell of popular opinion and getting thumbs and bubbles. I find it funny that by a MILE black ops is the most popular game on PS3 yet a lot of you come here and hate on the game. There has to be some of you who will post a hate comment here and 5 minutes later turn your ps3 on and go play. Just stop it please, the games a "good game" (not great GOOD) not "shit" or "garbage". Big Rigs is a game that is garbage. This is not big rigs status.

[mastiffchild]

@washington caps-Mate, I don't think most people feel the way you think-even people, like me, who are unhappy with the way the franchise is being handled. Most of my issues are with the way Acti force their devs into tight time frames and into cutting every corner to ave costs while still pumping shedloads into marketing.

Is COD crap? No, no it isn't. It's just been the same game, basically, for four years since COD4 and there are so many issues(esp with the PS3 version of BO) that it isn't funny. Remember, they expect us to pay a tenner more than for "normal" games even though most of those games have more care, testing and even dedicated servers ion console these days. For the leading shooter to fall behind in these areas is what's really wrong, imho.

I'm sick of Acti and , by extension, what they've done which is, to me and others a mixture of the above, milking, platform bias and Kotick. COD4 was a great step forwards but since then they have merely diluted that year on year-core game is OK but the state of BO online on PC/PS3 isn't on.

[syanara]

@mastiffchild

All I have to say is that compared to modern warfare 2 black ops is a Great game but then again that's comparing it to modern warfare 2. you want an unblanaced game? look at Modern Warfare 2, they encourage noob tubes, chopper gunners can get kills straight through walls, people can get a nuke in 30 seconds and at least 30% of the games I go into there is a guy going 99-8 just by using a noob tube and using whatever perk to change classes to another noob tube. this is my experience with modern warfare 2 call it bad luck, call it commonplace, call it whatever you want all I know is that people get less kills with the chopper gunner in black ops, noob tubes are discouraged, there isn't a nuke, and the highest KDR I've seen is 60-7 in a match where he was on the losing team. so I feel much more balance in Black Ops but I gotta say that's comparing it to MW2 If I compared both to U2:AT they both wouldn't look that good, hell if I compared them to battlefield even but thats another discussion for another time.

[Microsoft_Spokesman]

@mastiffchild
You're right, it HAS been the same thing for past 4 years but that's what people like - a fast paced shooter that you can play as a lone wolf and still win, it's perfect for the casuals and the hardcores players alike. They don't want it to change, and neither do I actually, I have 3 shooters that I am playing right now: MAG, Black Ops and Bad Company with each one being played depending on my mood that day. However, there is no arguing that Kotic is a greedy hoe.

Also, Washington-Caps, that was a really good paragraph that you wrote out.

[DARK WITNESS]

I don't know.... in my humble opinion, it's not the same game. if it was i think I would still enjoy it the way I enjoyed cod4.

it's the same general look and formula but it has got worse. No matter what they do people will complain, and not matter what idea the dev's seem to have about making it better, it just makes it worse.

MW2 definitely had some of the worse ideas you could possibley throw together.

If I could some it up with one thing one of the dev's said i will never forget. he was talking about the painkiller death streak and he was gloating at the fact that he likes to run around and die a lot and now he can do that and he gets a bonus of extra health or something like that.

for me that sums it up, you get a bonus for being crap, all the crap people cried and complained about cod4, so they made everything easy.

to be honest I think they did try and sort out a lot of the unbalanced issues with blackops, only problem is some of the other issues just seem to make it no better.

for me personally it's the bullet lag I get. just an't much point to being balanced if i still cannot kill anyone after shooting them with three bursts from an M16.

it's good people seem noob tube a lot less and it's good that there are less people running around just knifing... only problem is now everyone seems to just run around with smgs or the fammas and spray.

it's not the same game. cod4 got it just right, it had bugs, it had lag and at the time i remember sometimes i hated it, but after playing mw2 and blkops, looking back now, it's the best of the three.

[pimpmaster]

i do agree COD is really dumbed down. BO was a step in the right direction but we ended up with cod4 all over again. i personally prefer halo which is more of a skill based game to cod which is more of whoever shoots first wins.

[IaMs12]

I must say tho the game is pretty fun has decent multiplayer content with the way you can customize but hell the weapon selection does really suck...

[Tapey]

Can't say I've really encountered any cheaters on the PS3 version except for one game, but I would insist that from an objective standpoint, Black Ops has the best multiplayer maps in the entire COD series. The layout and flow of all the maps is nothing short of brilliant in my opinion, and it baffles me as to how anybody could complain about them.

[hennessey86]

with you about the maps they are good but the game is shite ive traded it in now and mw2 was crap aswell cod4 is still the best

[gamerzBEreal17]

how can u decide if a game is shite after 1-2 months with it? u couldnt have put that much time in the multiplayer played the single player and put that much time in zomvie mode could u? then u havn't even given the whole game a chance nobody here on this website has and im so sick if hearing people complain about COD why did u even buy black ops? what was u exspecting? it is cod4 with improvments ITS THE SAME GAME! people are just mad cus they add stuff that there not good at like snipers that take skill SMG's that arnt Super overpowerd (mp5) and a game where u dont get the best assult rifle at the start (ak47 in cod4) lol u people are the same every year u guys cry if mw2 was crap why would u get black ops? cuz all mw2 was were improvments from cod4 and thats all black ops is improvments from MW2... u guys are just to big of baby to accsept changes and adapt

[Washington-Capitals]

@gamerzBEreal17, why dont you ask how can people say the game is "shit" regardless of playtime! What defines "shit" in this industry? Its definately NOT black ops, there are a lot "shittier" games then black ops. Stop using the word SHIT to describe it cause it aint SHIT. Just say its not as great as the people would like it to be.

[antz1104]

@ GamerzBE real:

You can definately tell if a game is crap by the point you get to the 1 month mark. I've played thru the BO single 2x, prestiged 1x and am back to lvl 12, and played the zombie multi. I've seen people that have prestiged 6x, and thats not that much.

Don't get me wrong,I like Black Ops very much, warts and all. Just saying its possible.

[DARK WITNESS]

@ gamerzBEreal17

" SMG's that arnt Super overpowerd "

are you kidding... have you played the game solid the last few months ?

I am sorry but considering most people have been playing cod/mw for the last 3 years, it does not take long to pick up when the game is crap or not.

as for smg's, not being overpowered, is that why everyone runs around with the ak7fu and MP5k ? it's never been easier to get kills with the smg. you don't need AR anymore.

[awesomeperson]

Who, the guy with the complaint?

I agree with him.

Sure it was more balanced, but the PS3 version just downright sucked. I also found it to be less fun somehow. Even from asking my friends who mostly play on 360- they just don't find themself as addicted to BO as they were MW2.

Sure MW2 would have you frustrated and on the verge of smashing your controller at times, but it was so satisfying when you killed that stupid OMA Danger Close Noob Tuber, or an Umpando.

The maps just seemed more bland. Sadly, I seemed to prefer the MW2 maps- they seemed livelier. Maybe it was more than that. After all I like Killzone 2 maps and they are pretty dull colour wise. I think the design of the maps wasn't that great either.

[Pedantic91]

Your own opinion is the only thing that matters in the end anyway.

Popular opinion doesn't mean much, many of em' gave a good review for Oblivion IV for the PS3, yet, i didn't enjoy it very much.

[Silly gameAr]

Thank you. I didn't like Oblivion much either. I didn't understand the appeal.

[The Meerkat]

I only played Oblivion on the 360 and liked it.

Just imagine Call of Duty: Medieval.

Bows and arrows
Crossbows
Shields (so teams can make defensive formations)
Spears
Halberds
Swords
Fireballs
Holy Handgrenades
Skeleton perk, (arrows pass through you)
Dragon Killstreak
Trebuchet Killstreak
Ark of the Covenant Killstreak (Indiana Jones style)

That could put the fun back into COD

[showtimefolks]

i am not a COD fan i don't play those games i rent them to play the SP and with black-ops i didn't even do that. is the game good HECK NO because it is what this guy said people are just sniping all the time and than there are the cheaters.

but i do understand the impact COD/halo games have had on this industry i don't like them i don't play them bashing them won't solve anything

[Rainstorm81]

IMO BO outshines MW2....MW2's camping was outrageous, it no half as bad on BO. But the arcadey noob style of game COD is it will never change back to what COD4:mw was.

COD is a Core-Casual game that why it has mass appeal.

But this guy talking trash about highly reguarded games, seems like someone needs attention.

[theEx1Le]

You know it isn't wrong to point out the flaws in highly rated games, no game is perfect and its flaws can destroy what makes the game good in the first place. I mean the spawning in BO is a complete joke and the networking on all versions is a mess.

I can relate to what this guy is saying, I put hundreds of hours in to every cod game since Cod2, and tbh BO just doesnt have that appeal. I mean MW2 was the worst Cod game for cheating and hacks, but it wasn't bad. Fix the shotguns, OMA noob tubes and SoH pro for snipers and the game would've been perfect, especially compared to BO. And to be fair you can't blame MW2 for campers, thats the way people play the game so it's hardly something that can be changed is it.

[Vherostar]

His opinion is right though he is just one of the few who say it out loud its full of problems.. I traded my black ops 1 week after owning it.. I traded it for GT5 actually.. Never been happier.

[Kazu0 Hirai]

Everyone seems to have a negative opinion about this game. All CODs are the same thing every year. People complain every year. Yet it still sells tens of millions of copies. If you don't like it STOP BUYING THE FUCKING GAME BECAUSE IT WILL NEVER CHANGE.

[Gamer_Z]

@mastiffchild, @theEx1Le, @DARK WITNESS, @Shazz agreed %100

Dude this game really is awful compared to the other COD games, its inferior in almost every level you have to be blind not to see it!!!

Graphics lame (COD4,MW2 look better)
Sound lame (COD4,MW2 sound better)
Story lame
Snipe broken
Hit detect broken
Knife still broken!
Frame rate broken (60fps my ass)
Spawning broken
COD points lame (no skill)
MP party system broken
Maps lame (they all look the same)
MP lame (broken, lag, glitchers, cheaters)

A true COD player would pick up on this. Idk i guess i just dont like how COD is all about $$$ and not about gameplay anymore. I did however like theater mode and the ability to dive that was fun ^_^

[Shazz]

ive never really understood the whole point in cheating at games its sad as fcuk ,i mean you pay £ 200 to 300 for a console then pay £40 for the games just to cheat and get your little virtual stats high enough that people actually know you have cheated . play the games properly and improve yourself the legit way and enjoy the satisfaction.

[yoghurt]

I downloaded and played BFBC vietnam yesterday, its crazy how much better that game is in every way - in my opinion. IN contrast I rented black-ops, played it for a while and have not put it in since, it was appalling, I don't get why COD always seems to get a free ride, and why so many people love it to death

each to their own I guess

[Redempteur]

i itred BO : multiplayer ( ps3) ..

my inner flame was NOT lit in any way.

Afetr 2 hours i gave it back

[hamburger123]

Wow you played for two hours ?!

On the PS3?!

How did you do that?

[Iamback]

i played for 7 days on PS3, people just exaggerate. Move on kids

[Redempteur]

it was playable .. but it was dull IMO

i spent over 40 hours playing the MW1 multiplayer no problems ....

Something was missing IMO

[SnakeShady]

WTF!!!! 2 hours? are you serious? it's unbeliavable. 2 hours on Ps3 it's like 2 months on 360.

[AssassinHD]

I have been playing the PS3 version since it launched. I can play the game just fine. All of my friends can play the game just fine. People tend to make mountains out of mole hills, especially on the internet.

[The Meerkat]

My Black Ops disc is back in its case.
It just feels stale to me.
Once you unlock all the guns you realise that there are only 3 good ones.

And because there is NO defence to being seen first its still the Campathon that MW2 was.

[BlueEye]

Only 3? Let me guess, Famas, AK74u and Commando?

[The Meerkat]

I was thinking AK74u, Galil and FAL.

All the shotguns and snipers are pointless.

[BlueEye]

Well I got to argue a bit with you there. The Famas, AUG, Galil, FAL, AK47/74u, Commando, (and for some people)G11. The Stakeout is a useable shotgun and the Spas-12 can be equiped with a suppressor without losing range. The PSG-1 is great and if you are skilled enough you can use snipers. In the LMG section all the guns except the RPK are great.

[jaosobno]

Call of Duty games are just like Justin Bieber albums. Everyone hates it, yet everyone buys it. Most people are fucking hypocrites. Most of you will bitch, and then sneak off to Gamestop and buy it.

If you hate it that much, stop buying million of copies. Otherwise, STFU.

[BLACKBOIJONES]

Lol, i did not buy it..Im still on killzone 2 online and i still play COD 4. IMO cod4 is the best COD game. Any way killzone 3 is coming out early next year so im pretty sure all the ps3 players whos Black ops r like s**t will have the last laugh.

[guigsy]

Fair enough, if you don't like Black Ops (or COD in general for that matter) then don't buy it, but then don't go complaining about a game you don't even own.

I personally have a lot of fun with Black Ops. Technically the multiplayer is not perfect, but name a game that is. I actually think that many people use glitch and balances excuses because they're actually rubbish at the game, but are ashamed to admit it because COD is perceived as a "newb" game. COD has some of the most skilled players I've ever encountered in a video game.

[BLACKBOIJONES]

They forgot to add crap game.

[DrillaKid]

The graphics and sound fx are also crap. All in all it just shows Treyarch cannot make good games.

[BLACKBOIJONES]

@DrillaKid I agree and disagree at the same time, yes its crap but they can make a good game.Never forget how good COD 4 was,may b after that the pressure was to high so the started to f'up and now we have the piss or crap that is black ops.

Well im out of bubbles so if u wanna rply u can always pm me.lol :)

[DrillaKid]

COD4 was made by Infinity Ward and yes that was brilliant; think of the CODs made by Treyach (3,5,7) and they all look mediocre in comparison to IWs work.

[Owner360-PS3]

The guy reviewing got owned.

[Gamer_Z]

No. He's just saying what every true COD player is thinking, that this game is trash. I sold it because it was too easy, not one game did I ever felt challenged sure I would get low kill counts every once in a while but that was because I wasn’t motivated to play it, it wasn’t challenging enough for me or my attention would be elsewhere, my average kill count was 20 to 30 kills a game. People that say this game is good are probably the ones that sucked at COD4 and MW2 or where never really into those games to begin with. This game feels like its for kid’s and not like the addicting military combat sim that COD4 was. Basically they dumbed it down for the new casual players that are buying this game because its mainstream now, Bobby Kotick was calling it the Facebook of gaming!!! Face palm “sigh” :(

[sway__z]

Yeah, I agree with most of the comments here.

Sad fact is Black Ops is whack. It had an initial appeal for me, in that I wanted to get to prestige early, but once that's done.....Zzzzzzz.

In-retrospect BC2 is the better game.

[pwneddemocrat]

Vhat zeems to be zee problem eh ?

[SnakeShady]

"don't buy Black Ops. It. Is. Awful. "

God bless you.

[AllroundGamer]

personally i found the COD4 and MW2 maps more memorable than the lame ones in BO...

[RonXD]

Glad I play Battlefield.

[BeaArthur]

Sounds like someone is mad because they are bad at the game. What's the matter, angry because you can't kill 4 people with one clip? His complaints about cheaters sound like he or maybe someone else in the room has a connection issue. I've been playing since day 1 and I have yet to see someone that I would say is definitively cheating.

[mimbly]

On February 22nd this game goes back on the shelf to collect dust.

[NeloAnjelo]

You should have never got it in the first place. I still play KZ. Over 600 hrs logged.

[NeloAnjelo]

"If you stopped playing Modern Warfare 2 because you were sick of the cheats, glitchers and the lack of balance then don't buy Black Ops..."

OMG someone that agrees with me!

The thing is, there are plently more COD games to come. Sine we've had 4 CODs in 4 years, its fair to assume we'll have another next year. And guess what? It will outsell Black OPs. Even though it will have the same short campaign, imbalanced multiplayer, and all the other things I previously mentioned.

Did anyone expect better? The games have ONE year development time. What exactly has changed and what time is there to to fix things? People keep buying and praising it for no logical reason! I mean its clear that Activision only cares about the Money. The game's sales keep getting better and better, but the game itself has NOT improved at all.

Most CODs now feel underdeveloped (in my opinion). The same old engine, the same feel to EVERY weapon, the repeated glitches... Basically the same complaints exist. This won't change unless gamers really speak with their wallets. Unfourtanely COD is riddled with kids, who only ever play this ONE game, and call themselves gamers. And will always get the "popular" game.

Anyways guys, I'm getting worked up so I'll leave now.

PSN: NeloAnjelo. Add me to discuss more.

[divideby0]

no sense telling your honest opinions about Black Ops.
the game is to popular and the blind DAs will just jump all over you..

[Horny]

I wouldn't call the game shit from a gameplay perspective. But on a technical level it is crap. It has great maps and is a lot of fun. There still is the occasional freeze, getting kicked fom a game, party issue, lag, hit detection problems. People get really pissed when those thing work against them. I mean the game counts as a loss if you get disconected even if you were about to win the game. It is a good game when it runs how it is supposed to. You grt a few good games but then the game just craps.out on ya.
at one point I played 3 games in a row that I got booted from after getting 6 kills in a row, don't know what the hell triggered that.

[dead_eye]

I've been saying that since in came out. When it works I really like it. Had a real good night on it last night. Got in to games fine Hit detection seemed to work. Had loads of fun.

[outwar6010]

cod has already gotten very generic activisions plan of getting three different studios to make a cod a year will generate loads of money cos theres always a new generation waiting to buy a hyped of fps game but they've completely destroyed a descent franchise i cant wait for respawn to dominate the fps market

[sway__z]

Infinity Ward should take the 'P' and make 'Modern Warfare - E.L.E. (Extinction Level Event). Base it on the fundamentals that made COD-MW1 great, since imo it was the best in the series.

Not sure if Actishite own the rights to MW, or just the COD name, but it would be funny to see Actishite get shown up!!

[caliman87]

The online portion needs more work and include clan support.

[RedRedSuitSDF]

Where are all these hacks and cheats in COD Black Ops? I haven't seen any yet, and this game is way better than COD MW2. Best COD since COD 4. The guy writing the article just sucks at the game. That's why it's unbalanced for him.

[outwar6010]

maybe other people are just more observant than you

[RedRedSuitSDF]

Nope.... I'm a big time COD player. Play every night, for a couple hours a night. I'm on the 360. So try again. What else could it be? He's on the PS3? PC?

[outwar6010]

I know people on both sides of the console fence they both have problems with cheaters lag or some sort of problem both have glitches. Im just saying that you talk as though you're completely oblivious to them

[JonnyBigBoss]

I actually agree. I haven't played in over a month because of Gran Turismo 5, but the weapons seemed to all perform the same, sniper rifles suck, and the audio is HORRIBLE.

[theIMP]

Why did you buy it then?

[Gamer_Z]

Same reason why everybody buys this game every year hype and peer pressure

[Der_Kommandant]

Crap game

[T3MPL3TON]

Everyone has to deal with bullshit deaths in that game.. Yesterday I hit a guy with two sniper rounds in the back of the head.. he turned around, apparently saw me instantly and one shot killed me with a pistol from damn near half way across the map. The game is beyond broken.
The spawning system is the worst I've ever seen. Never should you ever get spawned right next to a member of the enemy team. The audio is just awful. Words literally can not express how terrible the sound is. Guns have silly stats under silly conditions. Stand still with the G11 and fire a single three round burst with no scope attachments and it's and instant kill. However start moving and it takes three bursts. Then you have those sniper rifles. The game is just retarded. Anyone who could seriously defend the game and sit there talking about, "where are the cheaters? I haven't seen them" hasn't played the game.

[LevDog]

Ya Im bored of it as well.. But all my Buddies play it.. so I play with em..

The game lags horribly.. Double pistols always beat and Rifle for some reason, Knifing is still broken, Kill streaks are boring and some shouldnt be as high as they are. Shooting people in the legs is better than shooting people in center mass or head..

It will keep me occupied till Socom 4 and Killzone 3 come out..

[Horny]

Im waiting on socom as well. Killzone should hold me over till then. at the moment its cod for another month and a half

[Gamer112]

Make bullets kill ffs! its like im shooting bubbles out my gun.And last stand,take out that nooby perk.

Other than that the game is good.

[MGRogue2017]

Well, I've been having great fun on it. Maybe this David Lucus isn't too skilled at the game.

You gotta' be fast & quick in Black Ops. You see the enemy? Shoot him immediately, No mercy. >:)

Oh, And take advantage of any objects you can find around you for cover. It's very important.

[Drab]

GO buy Battlefield Bad Company 2 and if u have a mic add "Drabent"^^

[Zuriel]

I feel rather bad because my friend wanted a PS3 game (he just got his system) so we traded used games with him getting MW2 and me getting FFXIII (In retrospect I realize that it was a equal trade of rather pathetic games).

I haven't played BO but I'd imagine it's a step away from MW2. (In a different direction) At least on the ps3 version, people are doing all the exact same thing now and it's absurd. The game is basically at an unprecedented arcadey level and I hope that with the next iteration of COD they will move in some new (better) direction.

[xstation79]

How the fuck can you comment on black ops if you haven't even played it yet? Since we can do that than I guess I will say that I haven't played killzone 3 yet but it sucks. Its a step back from killzone 2.

[Zuriel]

If you notice I wasn't implying BO was a worse game. It's just different from MW2's silliness. Articles like this one don't seem to be putting it in a very good light.

[Killzoned]

Black ops is a great game and probably the most enjoyable COD game i've played. Note how i said COD game

Anyway the game is still rather broken, The knifing system is terrible with its implemented commando, How can i be knifed when am behind the enemy and the enemy is facing the other way and knifing the air and somehow i get knifed? The knifing range is terribily long. The hit detection is bugged, How many bullets does it really take to kill someone? Seriously and my last issue is how the fuck can bullet follow you? I mean am dashing around a corner and bullets fucking going around it and i still get killed - RETARDED

[DiLeCtioN]

Sold my copy and got season 1-2 of Heroes less stressful

[SillyBastid]

I haven't touched this game in weeks... back to Battlefield 2; now with Vietnam baby!

[xGet_In_There]

wasn't harsh at all. I would of gave it a 2/10. And this is on PS3.

[DarkFantasy]

i actually like black ops its not the best but its good,i really think there is more complaining then there are glitches in the game i have only seen 2 glitches so far i have had less problems then with MW2.i love the fact i can play split screen with friends and family and that's probably why i like it,I'm not saying black ops has no problems but i am enjoying it i love zombies,and now i don't have to take turns with my friends and brother they can play too now! so far i like black ops a lot and i have never been a big cod fan,cod2 is still my favorite but i can see my self putting more hours into black ops then any cod so far for me anyways i know some people are hell bent on hating on cod but hey if you hate it that's fine doesn't mean i have to hate it.the story mode was really good imo! i just wish they would release a zombie map pack with derise I'm not buying a 120$ game or w.e the price was lol

[jetlian]

I see a lot of people in need of ointment =) This is by far the best COD!! COD4 was great for its time but truly dated now. I WOULDN'T TOUCH IT

[Tunerboy8732]

I moved on to bigger and better things done with lag ops off to play some more BBC 2.

[bjh089]

all the hatin on BO go back and play MW2 and realize how noob it is. They havent fixed quick scoping crap with snipers, noob tubers all day long, no flak jacket to counter it, and cheaters like crazy( glitchers and hackers. I tried goin back and it made me mad ill stick with Bo at least treyarch are gonna continue to support it.

[DarkFantasy]

im with you there,i love black ops its a great game,split screen is SOO awesome to have when your friends are over best cod game yet imo not counting cod2 and well cod4 was good as well but it didn't have no zombies and split screen online.

[spike]

My favorite COD game so far