PS3 - Worth the investment in 6 years?

Kaz Hirai recently said the "PS3's full gaming potential won't be tapped 6 years". He also talks about the issue that developers are having issues with the PS3.

Do we feel mad or happy about this?

Some feel that is simply too long to wait. Others think it is a great thing. The premium games on the PS3 look amazing right now, imagine the progression this will have in 2 years, in 4 years, and then this 6 year mark. If you were to be mad, why be mad at Sony. . .I feel it's the developer's fault. Unless he means they won't 'unlock' the full potential via firmware updates then yes, be mad at Sony. If not, then just enjoy the natural progression of better video game graphics.

Then Kaz commented on the difficulty developing for the PS3 and compared it to the PS2 era. Kaz says. . .

If you look back at the commentary we received when we launched PS2, there was a lot of talk to the effect that 'It's very difficult to program for' and 'It's easier on a Dreamcast'. It's happened before.If people said it was easy to program the PS3, I would be worried. That wouldn't be pushing the envelope for technological development.

[mighty_douche]

im sure he was trying to state that the ps3 has alot of longevity and is there for worth the investment. to be honest, looking at things just around the corner (MGS, KILLZONE, LBP) i dreed to think what the machine will be capable of in a few years!

id rather pay a little more for tech that has been designed for the future, rather than tech which will be out dated within a few years time!

[stunt213]

i hope ps3 will last for 10 years but i just wish they comes out with a new design of controller cuz im getting sick of using the same controller from ps1 - ps3

[InMyOpinion]

It will last until Microsoft decides to release a new console.

[Capt CHAOS]

Wait 6 years before we make the best use of your console?

[actionjackson]

I think the point he is making is that with development over time, you get growth and degrees of richness at each level. Right now, the developers are giving PS3 owner games that are pretty good. Next year they will come out with better games, etc. Under your statement, software should never evolve, which we all know it does. Buying, for instance, Windows Vista, you will not gain the full benefit of the product now, since a lot of development has not been geared towards Vista quite yet. When it is geared for Vista, in a few years, the full potential will be realized. Likewise, for the PS3, it does not mean that it takes six years to develop a great game for, it just means that it's full functionality can be properly harnessed [i.e., playing multiple games at once, Folding@home and playing a game at once, etc). This will not effect the bottleneck at the developer level. Sony has in almost every instance financhially supported exclusive titles, and will continue to do so. So the bottleneck is that developers don't really care about making the best playable game, they want to make it look good and send it to the shelves. Well it is too early for the PS3 to have games popped out on a daily basis, so it will take time. Like the PSOne, PS2, Xbox, X360, and the Wii, all consumers complain that there aren't enough games whent the console is launched. Then miraculously, about a year and a half into the console's life, great games start popping up. That means it takes time to learn, program and design for. For the PS3, Sony is say "try to push the envelope everytime, and you'll still find a way to push the envelope later." From a tech standpoint, that is amazing, from a developer's standpoint, it's time consuming. So where's the bottleneck? Not at Sony.

[rowdy 1]

I was very impressed with the visuals in Lair and the gameplay was good to. Just beat it actually. Most of the games that I've played for the Ps3 have been top notch games like:

F1 championship racing
Resistance
Lair
Warhawk
Motorstorm
Oblivion
Heavenly Sword

Mostly all the games that are not ported and half assed.

I do believe in time maybe within the year we will see the wow factor when someone taps the tech of the PS3. But I must say that it's off to a good start as far as in house graphics.

@Captain Chaos- This console is designed to last more than 6 to 8 years it has the tech to allow for it. Why buy another console in 3 to 4 yrs?

[darx]

Unfortunately technology will surpass what the PS3 is packing in 4-5 years.

[Bebedora]

I'd say it is worth it after only 1yr and even more when GT5, FF XIII and MGS4 arives

As things look now, I must say that what's coming to the PS3 six years from now and will be improved ever since release - Hello? You just got more value than you can ask for it.

[Ahmadinejad]

well i think sony has to forget about ps2 and its start because they wont competing like a company like MS, they were against Sega and we all know how Sega handles business and their unfortunate problems. MS is a whole different beast and it already established itself as a very tough player in the field. so while ps3 keep promising, Ms has been concentrating on now and keep releasing great titles every quarter.

Also all this talk on 6 years, 10 years is complete PR bullshit which i didn't think people with a brain would buy, i don't care if a PC has 2 quad core cpus, 2 8800 ultra gfx cards and 8gb of ram, the trend which the technology is changing, ion 3 years it can barely run a game. the exectations for gaming has risen so much that people just dotn put up with crappy tech anymore. there is no consumer electronic hardware on the planet that is worth the investment for more than 4 years. but if that makes u feel good about ur purchase believe it. im still pissed off that sony doesnt change its tone and give me good games now so my investment has been worth it in the first 2-3 years.

[Dareaver1]

Consoles were never meant to have such a long life span, because there is no upgrading to the hardware. PC's will (and some already have) start outperforming the current consoles. Technology changes constantly, no one wants a 6-10 year old pc, why would a console be any different. By that time televisions will probably have started to change and what you have won't be the latest and greatest anymore.

So I totally agree with you there.

[Shadow Flare]

well when you look at the ps2, its games hit the best they could possibly be about 6 years into its life. I think thats what Kaz meant

As for the ps3, its gonna be worth you're investment 100% when 2008 hits. There are so many proven system sellers that are coming out that year, and it'll also have the 2007 games to back it up. And, the games that are coming are incredib;y diverse. So yeah, by 2008, if you want a ps3 that's the prime time. But of course, there are great games coming this year. Top dog in my books...Gran Turismo 5: Prologue

[Annihilator]

is the most impressive game I have seen so far.

[FirstknighT]

Must be pretty sad in the ps3's gaming library if the best game your looking forward to is a demo.

[Korosuke]

SONY was able to take a long term strategy in PS2 since PS2 separated second greatly.
I think if Xbox360 will win or not, MS will put another new Xbox in three years or so, of course it's supeiror than PS3, short cycle.
So SONY shouldn't say that such an easygoingness. In six years ?

[Thugbot187]

Your right on that, and Nintendo will be right behind Microsoft in doing so.

[arcadegoal]

I invested in ps3 for inovation new ideas and of course good games now not in bloody 6 years time..yes it will be a slow steady progresion for devs to fully utilize the power but why make it so dificult in the first place.i belive by then microsofts new next gen console will already be in full action kicking the ps3s but big time.im not either a fan boy of xbox or ps3 i just like to play good games multiplayer ones mainly and at the moment my ps3 is gathering DUST. so last saturday i got myself the new black elite 360 and its multiplayer heaven.you got some catchin up to do sony,home douse not impress me i played the beta its just a gimick but i hope with time it improves.

[Keyser]

I've got nine games for the PS3 and barely enough time to play them all and keep up with the games that are about to be released.

If you don't mind me asking, what kind of games do you play? I would have thought that Warhawk would be keeping any PS3 owner busy.

I'm playing Lair but I know a lot of people don't like it so I figured you wouldn't.

Are you getting Heavenly Sword?

I guess I'm trying to figure out how you willingly spent $500-$600 knowing that there would be no games that interested you.

[solidt12]

Taking his words and making them your own to post it as something negative. No current gen system has reached its full potential yet so should we wait 6 years to buy a system that launch in 2006. I don't thing so. Get a PS3 NOW or what ever system you prefer an watch it mature before your own eyes.

[mighty_douche]

hes not suggestting you wait 6 years before you buy, simply that if you buy one now it'll still be paying off in 6 years time! i personnal bought mine at launch, same with my xbox and i totally feel that my money was much better spent on the playstation! plus it looks nice next to my sony HDTV and sony surround! maybe im a sucker for the finer things in life!

[arcadegoal]

Hello,i guse im being a little harsh on the ps3 as im sure when unreal 3 and haze come out the multiplayer seen will get going but we really need a decent mic not the rubbish one you get with warhawk sony should have sorted this problemb at launch,well warhawk its self is for me done it all before type thing played it at a freinds but didnt inspire me to buy it,lair really didnt like.sword nice graphics but ha ha dont like fightin games so as i said my ps3 is gathering dust and at the moment some what dissapointed with it,im sure this wont always be the case .ENJOY YOUR PS3 KEYSER have fun lol.

[Thugbot187]

While this article would hints the developer is to blame for not being able to harness the power of the PS3 earlier, unless the hindrance is firmware updates. I disagree, because as a selling point for your console you are not only marketing to gamers but developers. Remember it’s the pyramid of game sales, good hardware and development tools help the developers create great games, great games and hardware help sale the console and games.

Having to wait 6 years on a console that was advertised as better than the competition to show its full potential over it, is a bit absurd. We all know the next gen models to come out will out due the PS3, because technology is always getting better, but what happens if they are released before the PS3 reaches it potential? Which we can see is pretty much the goal of the competition.

[mighty_douche]

sony stated at launch that they wont produce a headset as other companies can supply better quality at a lower price! unlike M$ who push people to use only their products, sony has given consumers a choice, plus many people already have bluetooth headsets for their mobiles which will also work with the ps3!

edit: lol why are people diagreeing with me? im pure stating FACT, i know you fanboys dont like FACT and would rather jump to your own conclusions but please try and explain yourselves! i wish there was a way to see who has disagreed, bloody cowards!

[progx]

THATS why they're disagreeing with you. I frequently use other headsets other than the one that CAME with my 360. By not giving you sh*t outta the box, sony FORCES you to go buy a headset, AND an HDMI cable.

OWNED...

[jay3]

Theres no doubt. Yes.

The PS3 will be worth it no doubt by the end of next year.

[arcadegoal]

Yes thats fair coment from sony giving the consumers a choice but im on my second headst ie bluetooth the firt one was a mad cartz one advertised for ps3 but i gave me so many problembs it turned my ps3 of ie kept rebooting it when i tryed to use it and other freinds of mine had same problembs so took it back to the store my other bluetooth mic i can hardly hear anyone it just all detracts from the multi player exsperince for me thats why i think despite sony saying they would leave it up to other companies to make them they should have just put one in the box like microsoft did ready to use with no problembs.why is microsoft pushing their products thats not true they just wont you to enjoy the multiplayer out the box .SONY half assed in my opinion and just an exuse.PASSING THE BUCK AGAIN.

[Mr PS3]

Investment now !!!!!!!!!!!
And on another note at least its got a life cycle of 6 to 10 years not like the xbox i'll give it another 12 month's if that
AGREED

[Saint Sony]

Yes, PS3 might be worth something in six years, but what really annoys me is that it feels like SONY people think that technology will stop. PS3 is out now, in next 6 to 10 years there will be so much more interesting stuff happening. PS3 feels ancient then.

PS3 should be worth something NOW, but it isn't. Luckily there are choices in consoles, you can get loads of more fun with less money.

Edit: @Mr Douche "one tit miracle"
PS2 might still be selling the most, but it does not mean there is not anything more interesting happening.. or does it? You don't think 360 or PS3 is much more interesting?

And I am not trying to be someone who knows more than Sony or any other hardware producer, but I am not blind either unlike you. If you pull your brainwashed Sony mind out of your never washed behind you might realise how technology evolves, that is faster and faster and faster. 6 - 10 years is a damn long time period today if we talk about how technology evolves. Sony has done mistakes before, PS3 is not the first one. SONY said 10 years out loud only to make people think that PS3 is so damn incredible and advanced. Keep up the hope for PS4, it prolly will last like 20 years. If there ever is one.

And if you could read I never said Sony will be around only few years. I only said PS3 will feel ancient. Denying that there will be nothing new in next 6-10 years is pure blindness.

EDIT2: Why am I commeting in PS3 area?... Since when has the industry TAB been PS3 area? And about your questions, they were irrelevant to my comments. You obviously did not even read my comment.

EDIT3: Are you really that stupid? I have much better things to do than explain to you my comments, READ THE DAMN THING AGAIN and think.

Let me make it easy to you, because it seems to be so damn hard for you.

Like I said "in next 6 to 10 years there will be so much more interesting stuff happening. PS3 feels ancient then."

And you ask me why PS2 is still selling the most?.. That is irrelevant, even if it sells it does not make it any less ancient either. Same sh!t will repeat with PS3. Even if PS3 would last 100000000 years, there will be better technology coming up. GET IT?!

[mighty_douche]

"PS3 is out now, in next 6 to 10 years there will be so much more interesting stuff happening. PS3 feels ancient then."

if this ^^ is the case please let me know why the ps2 is still the highest selling console. also another question for you...

"PS3 might be worth something in six years, but what really annoys me is that it feels like SONY people think that technology will stop"

sony built the ps3 to be future proof for its life, im pretty sony have a better idea of how technology and hardware will change over the next 6 years than a childish fanboy! and your implying that sony console will only be around for a few years so please let me know when the lower tech 360 will reach the end of its life span? next week? next year? next time you try using it on a hot day?

i love people like you, you believe you know more about the future of technology than one of the largest producers of technology and hardware... what a tit...

edit 4 Nostredame, mate instead of just calling me a fanboy, and proving to everyone else where biased opinion stands try anwsering the questions!
im not suggesting that technology doesnt evolve at a fast rate but if you were really conserned by this you'd never buy anything! pc's for example, buy the best pc now and 2 years later it'll be out dated, that doesnt make your pc obsolet does it? it doesnt stop people buying it does it? i personally believe the playstation is worth MORE than they charge for it and i am 100% happy with my purchase, its easy for people to come on here and bash sony, its easy because in reality your knowledge of the future is the same as everyone else's on the site, its guess work. if your happy to spend money on a new console every 3 years thats fine (retarded but fine) but id rather have some longevity from my hard earned money.
why are you even on ps3 threads anyway? the xbox setion is the next tab over.... try using it...

edit 2 Nostredame, ok my mistake, but you only came on here to leave negative comments, which is fine, i understand children are easily jealous. i completely understand you inplying tech will be behond the ps3 in 6 years and thats obvious, but you dont buy a console for its tech, you buy it for games, and before you start on ps3 has no games, it does and has plenty coming! the ps2 is nearly 10 years old now and the games/graphics are still improving, that was the point of the speach, that the ps3's games will still be improving in 6 years time, can you say the same for the xbox?
tech can only evolve at the rate the people are willing to pay for it and people already state the ps3 is to pricy. if you think you know more about the future of tech than the worlds leading hardware producer thats fine, oh just so i know, what job do you have? surely its something in research and development by the way you talk? not mcdonalds im sure.... ill wait for another angry unjustified unfactual reply... oooh exciting...
"irrelevant to my comments"? i copied and pasted them!

[solidt12]

He wasn't saying buy it in 6 years but that it will still be growing for the next 6 years before they have reached the max capability of the system. In other words it is a good investment because it has a long future ahead of it unlike some systems that stop being produced after 3-4 years leaving there customers dry forcing them to buy a new systems. The PS3 will have quality games for the next 9 years even after the PS4 comes out so it is a good investment. Even after that there will be good use for it because of all the technology they have planned for it like the TV tuner service launching in Europe next year That turn your PS3 into a DVR. Oh and they are working on bringing it to the states.

[Mr_Kuwabara]

The fact is that no game taps a consoles potencial. And either way, in 6 years a PS4 will be announced so why even bother.

[solidt12]

Get a PS3 NOW!!!! or miss out.

[Mr_Kuwabara]

That's not what I ment. What I ment was that developers wont waste there time trying to tap into a consoles potencial when a new hardware (PS4 or whatever) will show up so they wont even bother to tap into its potencial if there's a new, improved and better hardware to program for. Technology changes, and in 6 years, the PS3, 360 and Wii will be 2k5-2k6 technology (old).

[Robeezy]

I also think that Microsoft and Nintendo will both put out new consoles before that 6 years is up. Which is fine by me, i love new hardware, especially since it would be much more advanced than anything the ps3 has. Nothing against the ps3 just sayin. And anyone who says its a waste of money to get a 360 and then another one just a few years later is cheap, as are any fanboys. Fanboys are just people who are too cheap or don't have enough money to throw down on both consoles and enjoy everything there is to offer.

[demolitionX]

he means that PS3 will keep generating better games every year. forget about after 6 years what technology will be...botom line, it's not like PS3 will get the most of it like in 2 years, then we have to dump it. i think it's a very smart quote from him. look at PS2 still generating pretty games and the technology for PS2 is almost absolete. take it easy guys!!! KZ2 and MGS4 are just a beginning of a new era for gaming. can't wait for GOW3!!!

[khellendros1]

The PS3 was worth it's value when it came out last year. Alot of people just looking for a videogame system can't understand, but Sony is a technology company. They had the foresight to see that Blu-Ray was needed. Anyone who says different are in denial. What Kaz really means is that the graphical quality will increase thoughout the life of the system. Remember the graphics are already on par if not better(first party games)than the 360 now. It doesn't mean the games won't be good. I like the thought of having a system that's going to impress me graphically in 4 years. I don't know if it will happen but like that they are trying.

[Bullseye]

I'll wager there is not one of you PS3 guys that bought your console thinking,Hmmm games will be great in six years time! You got it expecting great games NOW! And depending on your viewpoint, you may consider it already does have great games now.Look, it is true that the PS2 is still producing great software and it's also the most advanced software it's yet produced.So, if that's the case, why did you bother getting a PS3?? You know the answer, don't you. Yes. It's because no matter how good the PS2 software is, technology has moved on to such an extent, that the PS2 is all but redundant.Same thing will happen with PS3, that's just common sense, not bias of any kind! You know it and i know it.Ps3 software will be at it's best in 4-5yrs, i'm sure of that, but just like the PS2 before it,the PS3 will simply not be able to compete with the latest consoles.I know your argument to this- Why is PS2 still outselling PS3 and 360?I counter with, OK why did you abandon it for a PS3 if its still relevant?Bottom line. PS3 is good and will get better, but will also become easily surpassed in next gen 3-4 yrs from now.Oh and just for balance, so will the 360, but it's strange, i don't hear many Xbox guys denying that fact. Maybe it's because they are happy with the software available NOW!

[khellendros1]

Of course we want games now, but for me I've been playing games since 88'. I've been through all the system changes and I understand that it takes a year or more for developers to start taking full advantage of new hardware. It's always been like that. No system that I can think of has been immune to this. The PS3 has just caught more scrutiny because of the price.

[SmokeyMcBear]

this would be my favorite statement, shows sony what is all about

If you look back at the commentary we received when we launched PS2, there was a lot of talk to the effect that ‘It’s very difficult to program for’ and ‘It’s easier on a Dreamcast’. It’s happened before.If people said it was easy to program the PS3, I would be worried. That wouldn’t be pushing the envelope for technological development.

Why be complacent.. be comfortable with what is available. Get out of the comfort zone and try new things, its the only way the technology can advance.

[toughNAME]

when the PS3 gets some games that interest ME i will pick it up

not movies that interest me...games sony, games!

[PimpHandHappy]

The title is a bit flameboy, no?

anyway

For ppl that say technolgy will be past the PS3 in 4 years. You might be right but it wont be on a consele for atleast 7.

For ppl that say the PS3 is over priced. Talk to me in 2 years.

I have shown my faith in Sony and they delivered a true next-gen system! I have had this thing on for 18hours straight and i have never had one worry.

Plus with all the games that are coming i dont see myself feeling disapointed ever.

MGS SOCOM GT5 blah blah blah

u know what im saying

peace

[Bullseye]

but if you serioulsy believe that next gen consoles won't wipe the floor with the PS3 and 360,in less than 5yrs, you are dillusional.The components of both the PS3 and 360 are P.C based in origin and ALREADY well outdated.I understand your faith in Sony, they have afterall,produced the leading consoles for a number of years now. However, when you deny the inevitable, you deny the truth.
Peace to you also.

[TheMART]

Well, if it's worth buying in 2 or 3 years at a lower price, then why look at it now if the games suck? It doesn't matter if it's Sony's faulth or the developers. This is just the situation.

I'd rather buy a PS3 for 299 Euro WITH games then now pay 600 Euro without games that can justify the buy.

[SmokeyMcBear]

just sell more doja dutch boy.. im sure you can get the money, it'll get rid of your jealousy

[Mr PS3]

Hey skidmart are you dutch well forget selling the doja like smokey said just keep on dancing in them cubicles for them sicko's

[HarryEtTubMan]

I will have my PS3 in the next 2-3 months... I can't wait!!

[Trick Nolte]

1.) I'm glad I dont have to wait 6 years for Metal Gear Solid 4 and Resident Evil 5. Konami and Capcom havent been complaining about the PS3 tech and look to be making some awsome use of it very early on. So I'm not worried about AAA games arriving on PS3 in 08 and beyond.

2.)Kaz should have chosen his words more carefully. The PS3 is in a vunerable spot already. HS is a awsome IP but hendered from being way too short so reviews hurt that. Lair is a visual feat but has failed to be better than ok or good. Sony still hasnt paved a successful marketing path to sale the damn thing and these 60 and 80 gig SKU's could make thing worse. Futhermore, some heads really need to roll because too many mistakes have been made and they STILL havent clearly devised a plan to gete this thing off the ground!

3.)Wouldnt it have been so much easier and clear cut to have included Motorstorm with the damn 60gb SKU? It wouldnt have had to been a pack in, they could have shipped Motorstorm to retailers who already have the 60gb SKU's. And for $499 dollars you get yourself a brand new shiny 60 gb PS3 and a free copy of Motorstorm. People tend to prefer the word "free" over bundle for whatever reason, MAYBE BC ITS FREE! when you buy a bundle it feels like your paying for the whole package because YOU ARE!

4.) With a 60gb PS3, a FREE copy of Motorstorm for $499 would have moved SERIOUS units possibly clearing out the 60gig sku and even more vital, opened up room for your next SKU and price drop; the 80gb PS3 for $450 dollars. Now your cooking with grease. The people who payed 500 for the 60gb sku aint feeling like they jerked because well... that free game was a 50 value, the exact difference between the 2 SKU's. But most importantly Sony would have placed themselves in a great position to compete more aggresively with Xbox360 if not in content just yet, then atleast in price. make consumers aware that MS consumers have to pay an additional $179 for a HD DVD Drive to get the most out if thier console. You are getting a 80gb Console and a Bluray player right out of the box for $450!

It shouldnt have been this hard nor confusing Sony. Really. I know you guys will get it together here soon but if you stay ready you aint gotta get ready. Church :D

[PimpHandHappy]

maybe in 5 years MS or Sony will make a new consele. maybe even nintendo will make something that will blow away the two big companys.

I know pc gaming machines already blow away conseles but then again your spend 3-5 grand for one of those.

can i ask you something? When do you see the next-gen after this one happening? I dont see Sony making a new machine for atleast 5 years. I dont see MS making a new machine for atleast 4.

and i dont see any new comers to this biz. It cost a ton of money to make a new gaming/entertainment system and very few companys have the pockets to make em good.

[gololo]

Hey guys, if you owned PS2 you know that what he is saying is completely true! PS2 offered great titles throughout these whole years but it has brought us one of the greatest games I've ever played just before the PS3 came out, meaning that the best came last and I am glad that it did, otherwise I would have never enjoyed games like GOW 1 & 2, Socom, Okami and/or Shadow of the Colossus....if you guys have not played those guys I feel sorry for you since you have been missing out from great game play, beautiful graphics and awesome storylines!!!!

[PimpHandHappy]

do not feed the trolls. Just hit ignore and they will starve and fade away.

Do not respond to the trolls. You just sink to there level

[Rooftrellen]

It doesn't takes 6 years to make a good, enjoyable game.

I think its amazing that he thinks all PS3 owners and potential buyers are so into graphics that its all they care about. That's certainly not what sold the PS2!

If I really only care about graphics, I'll get a PC that's all souped up for games. The 360 beats out the PS3 for multiplayer, and the Wii beats it out in solid games.

Worse, Sony has said one game (Heavenly Sword, I believe) has maxed out the bluray capacity. That does not speak well for a full life for the PS3, if bluray is already nearly obsolete, according to the company that's basicing their game system on it for the next 7-10 years!

So why am I buying a PS3 for years from now? By then, PCs will produce better graphics than the limits of the PS3 can be pushed to, and depending on what I want, if its not graphics, I can get it better on the 360 or Wii right now, and all signs point to me getting it at least as good in the future, as well.

If you want to sell consoles, you shouldn't keep saying wait...wait...wait...

[gololo]

You cant get MGS4 on the PC...sorry pal, the point is that developers have not mastered or extracted all the power of the PS3, lets remember it took about a year for Xbox 360 to come with something really worth it like Gears! Also, PS3 have very nice looking and very enjoyable games out now....but in one, two, three years it will be even better! The same goes for the 360, the games will just keep improving. Now, yes if you are a hardcore gamer, you can spent 2Gs in a computer in the search for killer graphics.

[Rooftrellen]

"You cant get MGS4 on the PC"

SC2 isn't going to the PS3 either (I can't wait for SC2!) It goes both ways, you can't get some PC games on the PS3, and you can't get some PS3 games on PC. That's not a point that can really be argued.

"sorry pal, the point is that developers have not mastered or extracted all the power of the PS3, lets remember it took about a year for Xbox 360 to come with something really worth it like Gears!"

I know this. Right now, though, the PS3 isn't giving me anything I couldn't get elsewhere. If its going to take 6 years for that to happen, I don't see it being a worthy investment. I'm buying a game console, not wine. I want the games to make the hardware investment worth it when I get it.

Also, I don't think Gears is "worth it." I'd rather play Ninja Bread Man than Gears, though neither would be that fun, but that's just personal preferance.

"PS3 have very nice looking and very enjoyable games out now....but in one, two, three years it will be even better!"

No arguments that they look stunning. We're getting very close to games looking like real life. Fun, though...I can't say there are many games out for it now I would want to pick up.

"The same goes for the 360, the games will just keep improving."

The graphics keep improving. If games were actually getting better, people from all sides wouldn't be begging for a remake, a REMAKE, of a 10 year old game. For all systems, if a remake of a game you already played is better than a new game, for so many gamers, games aren't getting better.

That's FF7, by the way, 10 years ago...

"Now, yes if you are a hardcore gamer, you can spent 2Gs in a computer in the search for killer graphics."

Believe it or not, I think a $2000 computer would be a better investment than a $600 game console. Computer extras, wow, I can use them. The PS3 extras I don't care about so much.

Anyway, let's look back up a little, shall we. I said something about personal preferance. It seems to me that this is about graphics, correct? The PS3 isn't living up to the hype, and its hard enough on developers right now that 360 graphics are slightly better.

Personally, I don't care about the graphics. If you can squeeze every little bit out of the PS3 and make a game that looks exactly like real life, I don't care. I want a good game, not a pretty picture. That's what gets me.

As I said, it doesn't take 6 years to make a good, enjoyable game. If you can make a few of them, I will want your console. If you can't, too bad. As it stands, the PS3 looks pretty, but it doesn't have games that make me want to buy it, and it has nothing to do with the graphics at all. If the PS3 is going to be pushed to its limit in 6 years, or if it could be done right now, that doesn't matter to me, and it doesn't matter to most people, unless you can make games people really want to play, and all the flashy lights and bells in the world don't make a game good.

Push all you want, but the most advanced technology in the world will never make a game quite as addictive as Wii Sports, as deep as FF7, or as Skies of Arcadia. That's what most people want, not a powerful system pushed to its limits.

[Frances-the-Mute]

its a worthwhile investment, 100% confident

[jackie chann]

By reading this article the best decision would be to buy a ps3 in 1-2 years. You'd get a much cheaper price tag, you'd be getting what sony say the ps3 is capable of and you'd know if blu-ray wins or not.

Problem is people want a games machine now, they don't want to wait till next year for AAA games and so they turn to the 360 and wii.

If only sony would hurry up, they'd be doing themselves such a favour

[Funky Town_TX]

The only thing you can say on this site is Sony rocks. Or blu-ray/cell rules

[kreetah]

What I read was that you won’t be able to wring every bit of performance that the PS3 has to offer for four to six years. Much different from what the title infers saying it will be six years before “it’s worth it”, two different things all together.

I believe that the 360 still has performance tweeks and tricks and has not been fully tapped out performance wise yet, so by this articles description it’s “not worth it” yet either.

I disagree on both counts as it takes at least twelve to eighteen months to get a firm handle on a new box’s architecture. This does not mean you have fully exploited its power regardless of the manufacturer.

I know before four to six years have passed that Sony will have newer Xbox and possibly other consoles to compete with and these new consoles will be exactly where the PS3 was on launch, with no titles that even begin to take advantage of their newly released potential and power.

[Funky Town_TX]

I purchase consoles to play them NOW. So by what Sony is saying we should have purchased a PS2 now, and get a PS3 when PS4 comes out. I'm still waiting to be blown away by the PS3. I remember what was promised at E3-05 and I have not witnesed that as of yet. Maybe in 2010 it will happen. If there is not another price drop then it will not matter. I want a PS3 for Killzone, but after that rachet and clank and what else. More Sony PR and hype BS. That is my biggest problem with Sony and M$. Nintendo does not have to say sh8t. They make the consoles and the games, and gamers are their PR hype.

[Genki]

All of us remember the early PS2 days and the proclamations of it basically being a sort of "home entertainment hub", especially before launch. Almost none of that stuff saw the light of day, and what did had next to no support.

Enter the PS3. Same promises, but this time, we've seen changes and gotten updates that were NEVER announced to begin with. Personally I think that's great, as there have been many good surprises at gaming conventions, the blog, and of course firmware updates.

Just based upon all of the changes and implementations I've seen within just one year, I'd say it will be one Hell of a powerhouse in six years time. I can't even imagine all of the things I'll be able to do with it by then. I wonder, will we see a slim-line model by then?

[Taker_129]

I keep hearing all this crap about techology will be better in 4-5 year and how the ps3 will be ancient, but if you think about, if most of you guys are having a hard time with the price of the ps3, just what do you think the new consoles that you guys are talking about are going to cost. I'm happy with the ps3 and glad that it will last as long as my ps2 did.

[level 360]

The PS3 will all be just a memory in 6 years time... Sony should realize how demanding the consumers are today, it's all about the "I want it now generation" which in a big way is truly bad but what can you do about it?
And also while they have started the truly next-gen console, the next party that will come-out with a new console are going to look upon the mistakes that they( Sony ) have made and improve upon it.
Yes anything that's new is going to be expensive but what if they ( competition ) do deliver on ( mostly ) what any gamer wants - ( good games that are available > affordable { bundle } deals > a number of good innovative periperals etc... ). It will still definitely sell no matter what.

[TheExodus]

The hardware that's put into consoles has always been governed by price. Sony seems to have forgotten that the PS1 & PS2 weren't huge successes because of what they could do, they were successful because of what they could do for what they cost.