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Kinect Sensor becomes the highest selling accessory of 2010

The Microsoft X-Box Kinect Sensor ($149.99, 4 stars) was propped up by a cardboard box placed behind a 46-inch plasma TV. Why? Microsoft, the company that created the Kinect, recommends that the sensor be placed two to six feet above the floor—and the closer to six the better. Since I didn’t have shelving above my HDTV and drilling holes into my drywall wasn’t an option, my choices were limited. One of them is PDP’s TV Mount for Kinect ($39.99 list), which has adjustable arms that screw into the VESA holes found in the back of most flat-panels (typically used for mounting the set on a wall).

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GenericUserName4895d ago

There's just no spinning it, Sony were right, Microsoft have hit a major wall with kinect, a major wall made out of CA$H

Game-ur4895d ago

Meanwhile, in the real world MS stock keeps falling

Mustang300C20124895d ago

You hurt fanboy you. Thats why you have one bubble.

TheOldOne4895d ago (Edited 4895d ago )

*Kinect Sensor becomes the highest selling accessory of 2010 in America only*

Fixed.

For the last bloody time, America=/= the world.

Misleading title.

deadreckoning6664895d ago (Edited 4895d ago )

"Meanwhile, in the real world MS stock keeps falling"

WOW...mentioning stocks on N4G...thats pretty low. I don't think this is the right website for you...maybe Marketwatch would be better.

aviator1894895d ago

@Game-ur
Actually, since the release of Kinect, their stock has risen 2% this year. While that may not be a significant amount, it's still a rise nonetheless and it's not in a "free-fall" as you're suggesting.

Mystogan4895d ago (Edited 4895d ago )

@Game-ur

Lol @ ''stock keeps falling'' on a gaming site.

BTW its not ''falling'' its just not like it used to be and it actually rose this year i believe. If you wanna be all fanboy about it, its still higher then sony's stock

feelintheflow4895d ago

Actually stock price is not what you should be looking at. IT is market cap. That is the number of shares available on the open market times the price of the stock. Apple just passed MS last year, but there are very few companies that do, and most don't even compare. I don't think MS is having any financial problems. Making billions of dollars per quarter is not bad.

AAACE54895d ago

It was crazy! I went to several stores over the past few days and I kept hearing people talk about Kinect!

Toys R us had an old guy trying to figure out if it came with a game and a younger couple asking about it. Walmart had 2-3 people buying it while I was in electronics for about 5 minutes. Target had a group of about 8 middle aged ladies asking about it and the girl worker just raved about how much fun it was and how bad she wanted one. Best buy had people playing it and talking about how they could have parties with it and such.

The only place that didn't have people asking about it much was Gamestop! I've heard a person here and there asking about it over the past few weeks, but not much more than that. But then again, most people who shop at GS would have bought it already if they wanted it.

I was starting to think Kinect would do poorly with sales. But it seems like everytime I go back to a store, their stock of Kinect gets' smaller and smaller.

I guess all that advertising is starting to pay off!

UnwanteDreamz4895d ago

"WOW...mentioning stocks on N4G...thats pretty low. I don't think this is the right website for you...maybe Marketwatch would be better"

Says the guy all over the sales article. Maybe the article doesn't belong here but mentioning stocks in a slaes related article seems pretty logical. Are you mad because he plays this stupid game better than you?

vanquisher4895d ago

If we want to talk sales then stocks are fair game, or is it inconvenient for some here.

By the way MS stock is in a 52 week low.

ct034895d ago

So you're making up random crap now? Does this look like a 52 week low to you?

http://finance.yahoo.com/ec...

vanquisher4895d ago

It is low and falling, that’s what the red color means.

Kurylo3d4895d ago

Judging by the stock report... it looks like its rising to me.

Armyntt4894d ago

Actually Game-ur. 16DEC09 M$ was trading at 30.10/share with a volume of 55,737,800 shares totalling 1,677,707,480 trillion dollars. Then currently its at 27.62/share with a volume of 64,070,500 totalling 1,769,627,210 trillion dollars. Just saying. These numbers could be spun in a trillion different ways itself. So in essence yes the price per stock has fallen but there is more people willing to buy it at 27 than at 31. BTW for those ignorant to all this, the volume did not go up because M$ decided to release more stock. Cause eack stock is a piece of ownership in M$ and M$ has not relinquished anymore of its company to be bought in quite some time. Just saying.

Perjoss4894d ago

MS stock is falling??

that's it, i'm never playing another game on the xbox360 ever again!

why didn't someone mention this sooner??

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Christopher4895d ago

Yes, no spinning a comparison that's about as hard to understand as comparing it to car sales.

Wii Fit has sold ~6.5m this year. Each of those comes with the Wii Fit balance board accessory. Does this not count in comparison to Kinect?

All this article is doing is taking the 'might be highest selling' articles and making it a definitive statement without any proof.

Of course, who here really cares about that when they just want to discuss the extremes. Either Kinect is the best thing ever or it sucks, there is no middle ground for some reason.

Christopher4895d ago (Edited 4895d ago )

Of course, we could also just read the article and see how far this site has slipped:

"According to data compiled by NPD, Microsoft’s Xbox 360 was the best-selling game console in November."

"The Xbox 360 had five of the 10 best-selling accessories on the month, with the Kinect landing at number one."

"Microsoft launched the Kinect on November 4, and had sold 2.5 million units by the end of the month – twice the initial selling rate of Apple’s (Nasdaq:AAPL) iPad. In just one month, the Kinect is already the top-selling accessory in terms of dollar sales on a year-to- date basis."

All this is is twisting the numbers to make your product look the best. Top-selling accessory in terms of dollar sales on a year-to-date basis? Well, yeah, especially when you're including the total dollar amounts of the accessory bundled with the console in that pricing.

I really hate how people use statistics in this industry. It should be illegal and they should just be forced to provide how much they've sold and not twisting the numbers to make them look better than practically any product out there that can compete.

And, no, it's not just Microsoft.

Sony claims largest percentage growth in software sales in October, when Microsoft still sold more software overall but had a drop in sales since the previous month was a massive gain due to the release of Halo: Reach.

Apple has constantly promoted that they're the best selling tablet device out there, yet they ignore the prime competitors comprised of netbooks which sell way more than the iPad.

I hope many of you really see what this type of news is doing, which is nothing good for the industry and everything bad for it. It's the misuse of information. It's an attempt to market a product all over again.

UnwanteDreamz4895d ago (Edited 4895d ago )

Thank you cgoodno!

The second of your comments is why I think it is stupid to play the sales game if you are into gaming. You can spin this stuff so many ways it seems to take focus off of what is important to gamers. Quality games and game systems. If you like something and it is selling well I'm not saying you can't think that is a good thing but why focus so much on it?

gamingdroid4895d ago (Edited 4895d ago )

@cgoodno

"Wii Fit has sold ~6.5m this year. Each of those comes with the Wii Fit balance board accessory. Does this not count in comparison to Kinect? "

Actually, Wii Fit has been on the market all year long while Kinect has been what 6-weeks? So yes, in terms of the headline it is incorrect. It should read "Kinect Sensor becomes the FASTEST selling accessory of 2010."

Keep in mind that these are amateur sites.

"I hope many of you really see what this type of news is doing, which is nothing good for the industry and everything bad for it. It's the misuse of information. It's an attempt to market a product all over again."

Statistics is just another way of marketing, because it all depends on what ruler you use for the comparison.

With that said, I think there is a place for statistics and analysis and make sure you do your own analysis and look at the source!

Skewed statistics affects all types of industry so I don't think it affects gaming more than other industries.

@UnwanteDreamz

"Quality games and game systems."

The problem with gaming now is that it is turning into basically Hollywood. Some of the game critics are now bashing popular games based on sale while promoting niche games.

It's no different than Academy Award Nominee/Winners. Most of the time, I don't really enjoy those movies and they put me to sleep. Hey it won all these awards right? It is a quality movie? Maybe for them, not for me.

I enjoy quality games and quality games to me are the likes of Mass Effect, Halo, Gears of War, Ninja Gaiden, Call of Duty, Mini Ninja (believe it or not, I immensely enjoyed that game), Mario Party, Wii Sports, Kinect Sports, Starcraft 2, Splinter Cell, Alan Wake and the list goes on... i.e. games that are enjoyable! It doesn't have to have blood, shooting, racing or backed by a big budget.

ct034895d ago

<<Wii Fit has sold ~6.5m this year. Each of those comes with the Wii Fit balance board accessory. Does this not count in comparison to Kinect?>>

The NPD quote talked about "best selling accessory in terms of dollar revenue". How much is that Wii Fit balance board worth? Probably nowhere near the $150 that Kinect costs.

Christopher4895d ago (Edited 4895d ago )

***It should read "Kinect Sensor becomes the FASTEST selling accessory of 2010."***

Not this article. This article only says highest selling.

***With that said, I think there is a place for statistics and analysis and make sure you do your own analysis and look at the source!***

I think there's a place for statistics that aren't used solely as marketing ploys. Sales statistics definitely don't belong on N4G in this day and age. Just leads to more inane console comparisons.

***The NPD quote talked about "best selling accessory in terms of dollar revenue". How much is that Wii Fit balance board worth? Probably nowhere near the $150 that Kinect costs.***

Yeah, got that. Read my second post.

gamingdroid4894d ago

"Not this article. This article only says highest selling."

What I meant was that if the article wanted to make such an article, that should be the title and content.

"I think there's a place for statistics that aren't used solely as marketing ploys. Sales statistics definitely don't belong on N4G in this day and age. Just leads to more inane console comparisons."

You are right, a place for statistics that aren't used solely as marketing ploy would be nice. Unfortunately, this site is a user voted site full of fanboys. You wouldn't expect anything else.

Also, admittedly I'm always curious enough to click on the link myself... so I got no-one else to blame!

Christopher4894d ago

***Also, admittedly I'm always curious enough to click on the link myself... so I got no-one else to blame! ***

Hehe. Ditto.

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VINNIEPAZ4895d ago

"Meanwhile, in the real world MS stock keeps falling"

WOW A new fanboy low. LMMFAO, did the Sony fanboys really resort to STOCK insults?

L M M F A O sad....

Koolno4894d ago

The new "low" is people searching for false "news" on non-gamers sites, just to say "Yesss we win...for once", they just forget the most important thing, like always : the game quality, the game variety.

"sales sales sales" (but only in america, because others country give them bad health...like their library)

ReBurn4895d ago

I can't vouch for the accuracy of the statement. But it is pretty funny.

LiL T4895d ago

Funy how the people disagreeing with Game-ur are the same people that use sales as a quality indicator.

Elven64894d ago

TheOldOne: An American site is reporting about this and citing an American organization (NPD), why should they disclaim it? It's clear enough as is that they are referring to American sales.

Koolno4894d ago

Lol@8thnightvolley searching for useless adds on non-gamers sites to cry virtual victory...for a camera :)

xfanboyz are not gamers, just shareholders.

jneul4894d ago (Edited 4894d ago )

yes and sales == quality right?? btw all that cash will go to the 500m marketing of kinetc good luck payimg off that one!!

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green4895d ago (Edited 4895d ago )

Not bad for a device that a certain group of people claimed will have the same faith as the 32X http://n4g.com/news/614676/...
http://n4g.com/news/617666/...
http://n4g.com/news/620565/...

kneelb4zod4895d ago

Don't act like the ps move didn't get the same negative smear campaign and in kinect favor people still believe it's a better option than ps move.

green4895d ago (Edited 4895d ago )

"Don't act like the ps move didn't get the same negative smear campaign"

It did not.

For every negative Move article posted on N4G i can post 5-10 negative Kinect articles.

-Kinect is just an eyetoy
-Kinects only game is Ricochet
-Kinects price is too high
-Sony and Nintendo turned down Kinect tech so it wil fail
-Kinect lag is horrendous
-Kinect will never support hardcore games
-Nintendo owns the casuals
-Kinect is all smoke and mirrors
-Microsoft cant make hardware so it will fail like the Kin.

pls take your pic and i will find dozens of articles that fall under those categories and more that stated that Kinect will be a big flop.

If you even mentioned on this site that you were interested in Kinect, or that it will be a commercial success you will be hit with dozens of disagrees.

The only question marked raised about the MOVE was its similarity to the Wii controllers. But Sony worshipers claimed that SOny had been researching the tech 1st (as if Nintendo researched and developed the wii with its controllers a week to its unveiling) and since it was more accurate, will resonate better with wii audience who want a more compelling experience.

kneelb4zod4895d ago

The reason why kinect got those articles is,because Microsoft for a gaming division seems untrustworthy,they bought there tech and sense it's unveiling haven't shown what is possible with it and that part about nintendo,up until is showing there wasn't to my knowledge any tech demos and the video below kind of show there lack of their research. If I'm wrong give me a bubble so I can explain what I mean.

jneul4894d ago (Edited 4894d ago )

@green sony was doing r&d on move well before nintendo ever invented wii, oddly enough when eyetoy came out http://www.youtube.com/watc... you ARE THE WORST PEOPLE WHO LOVE TO SPIN THINGS INTO YOUR WAY OF THINKING WHEN REALITY IS KINECT == A 3D EYETOY
AND MOVE IS EYE+WII COMBINED WITH INCREASED PRECISION, TRACKING AND AUGMENTED REALITY AND VIRTUAL REALITY.
Thing is this gen has proven one thing, people like to buy gimmicks which are viewed to be popular and seen as kinect has been on oprah and has a 500m marketing campaign, ms has managed to make it look popular, hence everyone falls for the same old tricks they fell for with wii, when kinect does hardcoe games like kz3 as well let me know, but for now it's all pew pew pew!!
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Koolno4894d ago (Edited 4894d ago )

"For every negative Move article posted on N4G i can post 5-10 negative Kinect articles."

You just forget that the negatives news was the reality, the previews ! moive had 9/10 good ones, kinect the opposite...

only fanboyz forget the facts..

"it deserves the sales.
It's good it's selling this well. "

see, not gamers, only shareholder searching some kind of "victory" over the ps3 domination..pathetic :)

Funky Town_TX4895d ago

I don't think they spent $500 million in one day. That could be the total budget for adds over a spand of set years. For most people to assume how they will split that $500 million is crazy.

Christopher4895d ago

Seriously? People don't read the articles that mentioned the $500m?

http://www.nypost.com/p/new...

They specifically said the $500m was for the Holiday season, as a blitz attack on the market.

Similarly, there is $400m being used to market the WP7 at the same time. Which is nothing compared to the money they've been spending continually on Bing! advertisements.

This is standard for Microsoft. They always invest heavily in marketing. Very heavily.

Why? Because it works. Especially in the U.S. it seems.

Strikepackage Bravo4895d ago

@cgoodno

Advertising works everywhere, not just in the US.

However, a lot of Europeans hate Americans, and thus would not buy a Microsoft product since many feel Microsoft is some kind of representation of Americanism. (RHE)

Also, the ads that MS would have in EU may not be the best for those cultures, since MS is based in the states, they may not know how to make an effective ad for EU and other parts of the world.

Whatever the case MS seems to do well in all English speaking nations, probably because their ads are better in English?

Funky Town_TX4895d ago

After I picked it up I told a few or my friends / co-workers about it. The very next day they went out a picked up consoles and kinects. Thats about 6 people that I know of. I just hope dev take full advantage of all the capabilities.

vanquisher4895d ago

Wow you must work in a very high paying job if your co-workers can just spend hundreds of dollars just like that.

lelo2play4895d ago (Edited 4895d ago )

With all the crap articles and fanboys rants against Kinect during the last year... it deserves the sales.
It's good it's selling this well.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel1d 18h ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow1d 7h ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo18211h ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie1h ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow1h ago(Edited 59m ago)

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

OtterX14h ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Tody_za14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno13h ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Inverno11h ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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Game Studio Closures, Entertainment News, Disney, And More Skewedcast

The full Skewedcast crew back for this episode and Gareth, Justin, Michael, and JoeyZ at Skewed and Reviewed break down the latest entertainment news qith a focus at 40:00 on the Microsoft Studio Closures and how it impacts the game community and what can be done to help offset this negative trend.

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What is the point of Xbox?

Xbox has repeated the same terrible mistakes for over a decade. The reason is simple: its priorities are back-to-front.

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purple1011d 15h ago

ohhh man, the press really did not like those last closures, their having a field day bashing xbox,

anyway, ive got to nip off to the shops now, i've run out of microwave popcorn.

Jingsing23h ago

Apparently the last 10 years wasn't enough to get the gaming press to notice but as soon as they touch Bethesda it is full on nuclear war. A lot of people in the gaming press seem to have this irrational hard on for Fallout and Skyrim despite the fact they are low quality poor buggy games.
I've grown tiresome of the unbalanced fandom in the gaming press for fantasy games and their ability to just forgive crap so long as it's a fantasy game RPG game all quality concerns are not an issue for them,

anast23h ago

Popcorn has been good lately.

PapaBop20h ago

Clearly this is just a big conspiracy orchestrated by the popcorn industry, Microsoft are just their puppets, every time they open their mouths, I'm forced to stock up on popcorn.

TheEroica15h ago

Yep, Microsoft and Sony are a mess. Neither have a compelling business strategy and they're not making bangers anymore.

anast12h ago

Which Sony games are you talking about?

PhillyDonJawn11h ago

You enjoying all the bs Sony and MS been doing? Shame on you

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XiNatsuDragnel1d 14h ago

Xbox is getting rightfully roasted here

Einhander19721d 13h ago

The only point to xbox is and always has been to take market share and money from PlayStation and Nintendo, but mostly PlayStation. It's been the goal since sweaty Steve Balmer said it himself.

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ApocalypseShadow1d 7h ago

Yup. To put Sony out of business because they thought they were a threat to their Windows business.

solideagle18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

Genuinely curious: how is Sony (hardware company) threat to Windows (operating system/software company) business?

isarai1d 11h ago

I mean the motto "xbox, the most optional console ever made" was peaked years ago, people are just now taking a step back from deepthroating Phil to see what we've all been seeing for a long time now.

Ra303011h ago

The current Microsoft Xbox motto is .....We're Microsoft Xbox, and we don't care and it shows!

P_Bomb1d 10h ago

I’ve still got friends that main on XB. For their sake, I hope it sticks around. They’ve put everything into that ecosystem. It’s all or nothing.

I wonder if we’ll ever get back the level of competition seen during the 360/PS3 era?

NotoriousWhiz1d ago

Seems like Daddy Microsoft is trying to shut it down. Or at least bring costs under control. On the bright side, it seems likely that acquisitions are going to stop.

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