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Kinect Sales Reach 4 Million Units Worldwide

According to internal VGChartz estimates, sales of Microsoft's Kinect sensor passed the 4 million unit mark as of last week (week ending December 11th). This puts Kinect on pace to sell over 6 million units by the end of the year.

Xbox360 hardware sales have seen a significant lift since the launch of Kinect with around 40% of all Kinect sensor sales worldwide coming via units bundled with Xbox360 hardware clearly showing that Kinect has been selling outside of the existing Xbox360 user base.

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Mystogan4897d ago (Edited 4897d ago )

I know this is VGchartz but those numbers are probably very close,The kinect ones i mean.

And for the Move numbers i doubt those are even close...Why would sony ship 4 million units and sold less then 2 million?

BrianG4897d ago

Theres some lo balling and high balling going on when estimating numbers. Its all part of estimating, VGChartz doesn't know exactly what sold. They just assume based on what analysts say, like Patcher, who is usually wrong, and shipment numbers.

I am willing to bet that Kinect and Move sales are very close to the shipped number.

kancerkid4897d ago

You know, you could actually read about how they estimate their numbers instead of just saying they follow what Pachter says, which is untrue. They actually call up chains to see how much they sold, scour internet sales sites, and the such. Not much different than NPD.

It is just an estimate, take it for what it is.

Bigpappy4897d ago

M$ is riding a perfect wave right now. If they could keep tweeking Kinect for the Dash and menu system, get some kinect/controller announced for the core and get some new games out for the casuals, they will sell even fasted than the Wii for the next few years.

Unbornkirkster194897d ago

I'm not a hater, or a "fanboy" but VGChartz has very little credibility to itself and i would consider them a joke personally.

AAACE54897d ago

I don't respect VGchartz in any way shape or form, but I have noticed some of those Kinects have been moving! Ironically, one of the games I keep seeing sold out is the Harry Potter one.

Game-ur4897d ago

Kinect finally reaches Moves 2 week old number, I think it has a chance to tie before the year ends.

I really didn’t think the Move had a chance vs Kinect, imagine my surprise when it will end the year neck and neck.

vanquisher4897d ago

If Move was 4m 2 weeks ago before the shopping spree then it has to be somewhere between 6-8m by now.

If MS advertized Kinect in Europe like they do in America then it would have been top worldwide and not just in the USA. I don’t live in Europe, maybe they did advertize and people there are not convinced.

And hay any of you notice Kinect use dropping with early adopters? I know like 6 owners and they all shelved it already.

BrianG4897d ago

@ Kancerkid

I was simply using Patcher as an example I never said he is the only source. Obviously they use more sources. Either way I have learned not to trust the credibility of VGChartz since their estimates are off. Sometimes by millions.

And I personally doubt VGChartz digs for this information as hard as NPD does. I don't recall NPD ever being off by millions.

captain-obvious4897d ago

so if soney say they sold 5 million MOVE
they are wrong

and if VGcharts say the MS sold 4 millions Kinect
they are right

WTF ?????

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jack who4897d ago

dude i love rice O.o

btw haters gona hate

jack who4897d ago

sticky yellow red black white brown unlce ben moarrrr riceee

IcarusOne4897d ago

But the real question is why is it sticky?

kenmid4897d ago

I know this is Vgchartz but Kinect was suppose to fail, nobody is stupied enough to buy it, this is according to Sony fanboys.

Objective4897d ago

I was skeptical about Kinect, but the stores are selling them like hotcakes, apparently both to hardcore gamers and casuals alike. Even the salesperson who is a hardcore PS3 fan is singing praises about Kinect over Move.

nnotdead4897d ago

the fail i believe was for Kinect to provide gaming experience for the "core" gamer. that question is yet to be answered. same can be said for Move. the real question is, how long will Kinect and Move keep selling?

Koolno4897d ago

"Same can be said for move"

Are you kidding ? heavy rain, MAG, RE5 and others says hello.

IT's very funny to see real hardcore fanboy to be happy for numbers (vgchartz or others) for a camera, when nothing is brillant for the future of xbox gaming, they are acting like shareholder more than gamers...sad.

candystop4897d ago

"Are you kidding ? heavy rain, MAG, RE5 and others says hello."

Are you seriously that blind? those are not Move exclusive games. If you can use a regular controller then Move is obsolete. We want to see games only Move can pull off which we have and those few suck. Kinect wins and Project Draco, Codename D, Steel battalions, and Forza 4 say hi.

fr0sty4897d ago

Not true at all. You can use a regular controller for Auditorium HD, RUSE, high velocity bowling, that one psn game with the rat.. etc.. yet, they all play better using move. It depends on the content being played. some stuff lends itself better to motion controls. I personally think shooters play better with move, but that's a very "eye of the beholder" kinda thing. everyone has their own preference when it comes to controlling a shooter. Some like a mouse, some only use a trackball, some like a motion controller, some like a standard controller. funny how ps3 is the only console on the market that actually allows you to use any of the above.

snp4897d ago (Edited 4897d ago )

fr0sty i wouldn't bother.

This is a stunt people have been using for months against the Move - presumably because the list of big budget high profile games that can/do use Move makes them more uncomfortable than an 'Kinectimals V Eyepet' (or whatever) showdown does.

The device is and always was designed to be both a control for Move only games and an alternate controller for many Dualshock games. The fact that RUSE, for example, on very every review i've read, is said to be a much much better game under Move than a regular controller is beside the point to these fellows - the simple fact that it 'can' use the dualshock is enough for the 'quick, scrub it from the list!' impulse.

Of course the rest of your post is completely common sense - it is going to be subjective, and the effectiveness of each Move compatible patch/game is going to vary game to game (mind you the implementation of Move controls on Move only games is also going to vary game to game, so it's strange complaint from the ground up to make against patched games anyway; though again, their reason for making the complaint isn't sincere, but merely to 'even up' the relative games lists)

As to article - VGChartz sort of says it all. I've got no doubt Kinect is selling well, but this mob are the last people i'd go to get any numbers.

nnotdead4897d ago

i'll agree that the Move has shown itself to better suit the core gamer than Kinect. it seems like Move has been as good or better in the use of some games: Ruse, HR, RE5, High Velocity Bowling. still think both products have a lot to prove before most "core" gamers look at either Kinect and Move as more than interesting tech, and into a valid/needed experience for gaming.

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GamingForever4897d ago

Kinect just has one more million to go before the new year is up.... If not, they won't meet their goal!

kenmid4897d ago

you do know that kinect has been out about 6 weeks, and they sold 4 million, we still have two b4 christmas, and you still have all the xmas shopping after christmas, and kinect is still selling out everywhere.

Koolno4897d ago

It's just vgchartz estimation.

ct034897d ago

That's what everybody said last time. Before the NPD numbers came out and showed that VGChartz had underestimated the sales.

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Joy Ride Turbo - The Beginning of the End for Xbox Kinect

Joy Ride Turbo launched 10 years ago today. The first title was Xbox Kinect exclusive, yet this sequel failed to support the device at all.

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10 of the Biggest Video Game Hardware Failures Ever

Cultured Vultures: "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal, and no matter how much developers might try, some gaming hardware just fails to hit the mark. We’ve compiled a list of 10 gaming hardware fails, and boy did some fail hard."

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Knightofelemia841d ago

I would label the Power Glove, Kinect, and that Tony Hawk skateboard more as hardware addons hardware failure would be like the Virtual Boy and one day Stadia.

Magog841d ago

Kinect was bundled with every Xbox One and inflated the price on an already underpowered and low RAM machine so for the One it wasn't an accessory as much as a white elephant.

CaptainHenry916841d ago (Edited 841d ago )

Definitely the RROD but that power glove had a lot of issues as well. The Kinect just didn't work

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CrimsonWing69841d ago

Hardware add-ons are more like RAM or a video card, basically components that enhance capabilities or performance of the computer.

If you really want to get technical the Kinect is more of a peripheral device, kind of like a keyboard or mouse to a computer.

ThatsGaming841d ago

The person in this article obviously is not up on their gaming history....

Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Coleco Gemini, Commodore 128, Commodore Amiga, Atari 5200, Atari 7800 were all massive failures and in most cases cost their companies participating in future gaming generations.

Gamer79841d ago

Sega saturn (successful in Japan) and dreamcast were not failures.
Seems like you're not up on you're gaming history

septemberindecember840d ago

@Gamer79

How in the world are the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast not seen as failures? They both sold around 8M each, which is much lower than the ~30M that the Genesis had sold before it, and even the Master System before that. They were both the worst selling consoles in their respective generation (PS1, N64 outsold Saturn, PS2, GC, and Xbox outsold Dreamcast). Both of the consoles were incredibly short lived. The Saturn was discontinued in every territory but Japan after just three years. In Japan the console was discontinued after six years. Meanwhile the Dreamcast was discontinued worldwide in 2001 after launching in most territories in 1999 and in Japan in 1998. The failure of the Saturn and Dreamcast lead to Sega pulling out of the hardware market. Which, by the way, all of this occurred when Sega was massively dropping the price of their consoles quickly to compete. Sega was hemorrhaging money at this point.

None of this indicates a successful console. Saying the Saturn was a success because it did better in Japan is like saying the Vita is a success (they both sold around the same amount of units in Japan). Even the Wii U outsold these consoles worldwide.

Magog841d ago

The picture should be the 360 RROD. When I think of gaming hardware failures that's what springs to mind. Kinect and it's bundled price tag definitely hobbled the already underpowered Xbox One though for sure so I would give it a close second place.

porkChop841d ago (Edited 841d ago )

That's not what the author means by failures. It's about hardware that failed in terms of sales (Wii U) or just failed to deliver on its promise (Kinect).

Magog841d ago (Edited 841d ago )

Given that the 360 had a year head start, much easier hardware to develop for, was cheaper, and still ended up in third place I think it qualifies especially when you factor in the frustration and huge losses incurred by RROD.

porkChop840d ago

Selling over 80 million consoles isn't a sales flop. We get it, you don't like Xbox, but that doesn't mean the 360 is suddenly a failure.

Rhythmattic840d ago

Porky....
You know how many people I know bought a 2nd or third 360 due to RROD? Even when MS had to confront the issue with replacement systems, my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in, and waiting for a replacement.,,..,..
If that's how you consider it a win... OK.. but so is having 5 , of which 3 don't function.... Its a win win....mwhahahahaha

porkChop840d ago

"my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in"

You're acting like it would take months. When I sent my 360 in I got a new one literally 5 days later. As soon as MS had tracking confirmation that you sent yours, they'd send a new one to you the same day. No one is going to spend hundreds to buy a new console instead of waiting a week. I swear you guys pull some of the dumbest shit out of nowhere and think people will actually believe it.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about.

Rhythmattic839d ago (Edited 839d ago )

Porky
"You're acting like it would take months"
Sometimes it could.. FFS.. 'Strya here...
Best turnaround I reckon was 2-3 weeks.....
Either way, My mates experiences still exist.. So Sorry, no point trying to earn Xbox Achievements when it doesn't feature in what was a situation you never dealt with,,,,
3 of my friends would disagree (overall, 10 extra Xboxes purchased)
Regardless.. MS sold a lot of 360's that was due to this reason.. That is sales. Fact

"none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about."
Headline says HELLO !
Oh and "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal," that's enough to pass this on without taking your article bias into consideration.....
As for the rest.... Ok.. But you've actually gone out of your way to give MS a Pass... Fap on.

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Aloymetal841d ago (Edited 841d ago )

Yup, and because of that big fiasco MS had to fork out 1 billion but knowing them I think they're very proud of the 360, it's the only time a MS console reached 80mil+ sales, RROD played a big part of that and a record they will never break again.

Rhythmattic840d ago (Edited 840d ago )

So true.. Even when MS accepted they where caught out in the biggest lie of any generation, The wait for a replacement was outweighed by just buying another, and having one be returned as a backup, which, btw, generally failed on first swap.
I own honestly can't believe MS tards are just supporting , or arguing why and what MS did by just dismissing it....

lonewolf10841d ago

Lol I had the Atari Jaguar, surprised its "competition" the 3DO isn't on the list too, both as "popular" as each other.

SullysCigar841d ago

Lol same. Played the crap out of Aliens Vs Predator and Tempest 2000 .... aaand that's about it really!!

lonewolf10841d ago

Sad but true that was pretty much it.

Kurt Russell841d ago

Agreed, I never actually saw a 3DO make it to retailers in the UK. At least the Atari Jaguar was sold for around 6 months.

lonewolf10841d ago

It made it to some my brother got one, fared just as well as the Jaguar so most probably hard to find in general.

darthv72841d ago

3do had way better games. Jaguar not so much. Neo Geo sold less than both and yet isnt considered a failure. Go figure.

LWOGaming841d ago

Stadia is a weird one. It hasn’t sold at all well but in terms of how it works it’s still miles ahead of Xcloud in terms of stability and performance. Xcloud is still a way behind and that needs sorting but it will be in time. Stadia for me is one of those things that will go down as a what could have been moments. With better marketing it could have been a roaring success. I still play it and it remains the best place in my opinion to play CyberPunk 2077. Only platform I have played it on without having any issues at all. The tech is great. The concept is fine. Marketing terrible. Shame really.

Magog841d ago

The sales model was awful. They should have teamed with an existing player to allow for local and cloud access to games or a gaming subscription service.

LWOGaming841d ago

It was a strange mess from such a huge company, as I said, as a system it works really well but without gamers it’s nothing. Such a waste,

LWOGaming841d ago

The Xbox One was Microsoft’s Nintendo Wii U. Undercooked, undersold and just an unholy mess. The thing is with any of these failures is to learn from them and thankfully both Nintendo and Xbox did just that to the benefit of gamers everywhere.

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Pivotal Decisions in Gaming History - Xbox Goes All-In on Kinect

Xbox 360's Kinect had flopped yet Microsoft insisted on mandatory Kinect for Xbox One, driving the price up and alienating their potential customers.

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darthv721018d ago

the tech was pretty damn good but their focus on making it the centerpiece was not. Had they opted to keep it as a secondary or even tertiary device, it may have found new use for AR/VR.

PrimeVinister1018d ago

Maybe. But they were two early for VR and too late for motion control

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Godmars2901017d ago

Their focus was marketing metrics. Information gathering for targeted advertising. Also "event curating" or head counting for special TV events. If MS had had their way with always online and mandatory Kinect pre COVID, as and during it they'd likely be turning into dominant presence in many Western homes. Be getting subsidized by Disney and other streamers as well as the NFL.

Thing was, Kinect as an actual game system, its games, just weren't ready. MS moved on it too soon. Thankfully.

Atticus_finch1017d ago

Sorry but it was incredibly bad for gaming. The thing barely worked as intended and the games were broken shovelware. And let's not forget all the lies from Xbox to try and sell it. What happened to Milo?
It's like Xbox it's a perpetual lying machine.

PrimeVinister1017d ago

I had almost forgotten about Milo. It looks so unbelievable in retrospect. How did anyone believe it?!

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TheEnigma3131017d ago

Kinect requirement, TV focused, DRM, and $100 buried Xbone before it even stared.

PrimeVinister1017d ago (Edited 1017d ago )

I think Kinect was the worst of the bunch. They reversed DRM overnight and try to play down the TV stuff when they realised it made them look disinterested in gaming.

Kinect stuck around for six months, preventing sales and making more and more people upset when they dropped the Kinect and the price.

Atticus_finch1017d ago

Don't forget the inferior hardware which affects their game development to this day.
And the constant boasting and lying that hasn't change very much to this day.

kayoss1017d ago

I was kind of excited for the kinect. It had potential. That was until i tried it at one of their Microsoft store. The thing was so laggy and worker who was there, had no clue what he was doing. It kind of made rethink about buying an Xbox One with Kinect.

PrimeVinister1017d ago

I had already been turned off of the idea by Kinect for 360. Even when it worked, the games were bad and showed no potential.

Wii made you understand what they were going to do with it within about 10 seconds of Wii Sports. It went on to become a bit of a joke but at least it worked and had a purpose.

Thundercat771017d ago

The damage to the Xbox brand was so hard that til this day they are just the last place brand in the market.

PrimeVinister1017d ago

Totally. They haven't been really all that relevant since.

Godmars2901017d ago

That has to do with repeatedly failing, having to reaffirm only to again fail at creating a competent flow of decent games.

@PrimeVinister:
Until Game Pass and BC are mentioned. Only for the point to be missed.

kayoss1017d ago

thats because they dont know what they want to be. A gaming console, Television, or a gaming service?

Godmars2901017d ago

@kayoss:
They wanted, expected, to be Steam. To have everyone coming to them and paying for the privilege. That's the exact mentality on display when they tried to push always online.

brewin1017d ago

Its sad because the Xbox one version of Kinect was actually pretty solid. Not for motion games, I couldnt care less about those, but for the other features that are now commonplace in the gaming ecosystem. Things like voice control and optional motion features in games. Stuff that Sony did with the PS camera was pretty sweet and they could have done some of that stuff with Kinect.

The tech was pretty sweet when implemented right though. Who remembers the implementation in Dead Rising 3?! You could lure zombies away by saying stuff into the kinect, it was a bit hokey at first, but it actually enhanced the game significantly once you learned all the different voice commands. There was and still is nothing else like that!

The focus on TV seemed to be an issue for people, but the TV pass through had some real potential. They could have had cable companies giving the XBone out instead of cable boxes! I understood what they were trying to do, but they needed to show the games too, and thats where they lost the core gamers. Being able to jump right to a sports event or TV show with out leaving the console was actually a pretty cool thing. I spent many nights switching between NHL games or TV shows and jumping right back into my games seamlessly, just by telling Kinect to do so. It was better than people care to admit, but I loved it!

People say XBone had no games, but on launch I got Dead Rising 3, AC Black Flag, Watch Dogs, Killer Instinct, Battlefield 4, Forza 5, and Ryse. That was actually a pretty solid lineup in hindsight! Then later on it got gems like Quantum Break, Dead Rising 4, Sunset Overdrive, Gears 4 and 5, the Ori games, Rare Replay, Forza Horizon 3/4, State of Decay 2, ReCore (SUPER UNDERRATED GEM), Halo 5, Halo Wars 2, and all the great 3rd party stuff as well! I dare anyone who sat on the Xbox One to go back and give it a shot now.

It was actually a pretty great console all things considered. Yes the PS4 had better 1st party stuff, stuff that MS just couldnt top or even compete with, but there are some really great games that a lot of people missed out on that they would probably really enjoy if they actually played them. Thats why I recommend a Series S and Gamepass to a lot of people, as its a great way to get an awesome lineup pf games for super cheap!

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