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Kinect Dominates Discussion, Gets Double The Exposure of Move

Nukezilla reports:

"Microsoft’s Kinect is proving to be quite the talking point in the run up to Christmas this year and since the start of August it has consistently been written about more than Sony’s Move. In the past four months Move has been written about 737 times, with Kinect gaining nearly double that amount of exposure with 1,325 individual articles mentioning the device."

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Godmars2904914d ago

Yet fails to sell twice as well in half the time...

God, just give it a rest. Stop. Just Stop.

Killed4Less4914d ago

More like sell a Nav = Move sale! Not to mention you need 2 Moves to equal the same experience with 1 Kinect.

Not even something that should be compared since the Move can be piece together and each piece could potentially count as a Move sale.

Cevapi884914d ago

"2 Moves to equal the same experience"....LMFAO

for you to say that shows just how ignorant you are...it also tells me that you have never touched a Move controller

gijsbrecht4914d ago

Please don't let my 2 precious Moves equal the same experience as 1 Kinect. Then they would be seriously broken.

Dramscus4914d ago

It has twice the exposure because the spent 500 million on advertising. Compared to the advertising for move which was probably in the low single to double digits.

GoodGuy4914d ago

So, selling a NAV equals selling a MOVE? Are you a moron?
They are 2 DIFFERENT devices.

ryuzu4914d ago

Actually, Sony specifically exclude Nav sales from the press releases.

But this is N4G - no one reads the news so it's no surprise you look like an idiot right about now lol.

r.

SilverSlug4914d ago

Since there is like, one game that requires 2 controllers to play, you would be wasting your money.

Especially since that game is that crappy Fighting game.

NecrumSlavery4914d ago

Nav = Move sale?

You can't even compare Nav sales. That's just bonus points.

Compare Kinect & Move cause the Nav is just another example of why Kinect games are stationary or rail based only.

ComboBreaker4914d ago

Look at all these articles trying to qualify Kinect and convince others that Kinect is cool.

"Hey guys, Kinect is so cool. Everyone is talking about Kinect. Did you know what Kinect has twice the exposure of Move? Twice the exposure!!! Celebrities love Kinect."

If it's that cool, then it doesn't need to insist upon itself.

Move doesn't need to try to convince others that Move is cool. Move doesn't need to insist upon itself. Move just is.

Rumbanana4914d ago

"More like sell a Nav = Move sale! Not to mention you need 2 Moves to equal the same experience with 1 Kinect."

Yet 2 move controllers and a camera are still less expensive than 1 Kinect. LOL you're XBOT logic astounds me. PEW, PEW, PEW!

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Active Reload4914d ago (Edited 4914d ago )

"Yet fails to sell twice as well in half the time"

I don't get it. Unless you're telling me you had that high of hopes for Kinect, lol. Wouldn't Move coming out in September be considered a headstart, lol?

"God, just give it a rest. Stop. Just Stop."

Lol, yes please do xD

ryuzu4914d ago (Edited 4914d ago )

Well maybe it's a "right back at ya!" thing.

360 with a year "head start" apparently had nothing to do with PS3 not overtaking it in sales day one.

So what goes around comes around - how come Kintec hasn't outsold the lowly, unmarketed, wii-rip off Move - it only had 1 month head start.

r.

thebudgetgamer4914d ago

" Wouldn't Move coming out in September be considered a headstart, lol?"

yea if wasn't for that head start it wouldn't be in the lead at all right? oh wait.

AnointedD4914d ago (Edited 4914d ago )

Your comment makes very little sense Godmars. If kinect had 4 times the exposure only then would it sell twice as much in half the time...think about it, thats what maths dictates.
Kinect however has SOLD in 25 days what Move SHIPPED in a month.
So far Move is shipped 4.1 million in 75 days
Kinect has sold 2.5 million in 25 days. Even if we say Move has sold 4.1 million, that's 54667 per day and Kinect is at 100 000 per day. Twice the exposure, twice the sales in the game time frame. This public service announcement was brought to you by basic mathematics and these quotes..."We are thrilled about the CONSUMER
response to Kinect, and are working
hard with our retail and
manufacturing partners to expedite
production and shipments of Kinect
to restock shelves as fast as possible
to keep up with demand, ” said Don
Mattrick, president of Microsoft’s
interactive entertainment business.
“ With SALES already exceeding two
and a half million units in just 25
days, we are on pace to reach our
forecast of 5 million units sold to
CONSUMERS this holiday. ” and from aaron greenberg<<MSFT says it sold 2.5 million Kinect
to consumers. Impressive that's to
consumers not sell in to retail. #
halfwaythere>>

DaTruth4914d ago (Edited 4914d ago )

That math was terrible! It fails to take into account that products tend to sell more in their first month than the second or that Kinects timeframe includes Black Friday, whereas Move's timeframe contains no "biggest shopping day of the year"!

MS is also spending 500 million on people writing about it! I'm sure gaming magazines who are receiving ad revenue from MS are under the impression they're suppose to write more about it to access that revenue!

r1sh124914d ago

its just marketing noise..
The MS marketing team have done better, but here in the UK (ENgland) - kinect has not had as much exposure.
I havent seen it in any stores to try out, the Move ad's are on the TV quite a bit.
I might be missing the kinect ad's, but I havent seen many on the TV - most likely because I work.
I think the difference is in the streets and stores, there is a big 'bonanza' in many stores for kinect but not for move.
Seems like MS bullied their way in.
Its a shame, if Sony had the aggressive marketing MS do IM sure sony would have taken the lead a long time ago.

metsgaming4914d ago

yet the advirtising is way more than 2 to 1 , the discussion should be large that more like 4 to 1

aceitman4914d ago

gee anything would get exposure with 500 million $ on advertising ... come on, it doesnt take a genius to figure that out does it .

Christopher4914d ago

For $500m, it better get more discussion.

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verygoodyear4914d ago

It must be down to the technology. Move, while cool, is basically just seen as Wiimote.

It'll be interesting to see what this is like when the proper games get released.

karl4914d ago

yeah.. the be informed about the technology is very important

the more time it passes more casual people will understand what each one can do..

honestly .. when peple understand what little kinect can do and the rumors spread.. it will sink in sales

Viper74914d ago

Yeah people probably missed EyeToy when it came out, would think even the casuals would be having some sort of dejavu from current Kinect lineup. (shame really, Kinect seems to pack quite nice tech from what I have seen people using hacked kinect for. Bringing objects to a game could be kinda neat. )

bananlol4914d ago

The eyetoy sold about 10 million copies.

AnointedD4914d ago

Source on that 10 million please

Cenobia4914d ago

If you are waiting for 'proper' games for Kinect you are going to be waiting for a long time. I am willing to bet that Kinect will muster maybe as many core games as the Sixaxis-only games have (like 3).

Being unable to use Kinect to navigate 3D space makes it hard to utilize for core gaming. I can imagine a Myst-like puzzle solving game, because it makes you stop at each area, but that is the extent of my ideas for a fun Kinect game.

Move still needs to bring the games, but being included in games like RE5, KZ3, and Socom shows that it is at least possible.

Dylantalon14914d ago (Edited 4914d ago )

It's funny that I haven't read or heard about an article which talks about which product is better or works as advertised.

Godmars2904914d ago (Edited 4914d ago )

One just went up:
http://n4g.com/news/655552/...

This just wont stop, will it?

wuerflein4914d ago

Rabble will be roused over this.

triumphofhearts4914d ago

Being completely honest - I don't care about Move, I don't care about Kinect. BUT Kinect in concept and in execution has irritated me more than any other piece of hardware.

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk7721h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE18h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware73018h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor15h ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos15h ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor15h ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos15h ago

I think it's becoming clear based on matt bootys comments there's no future for any IP that can't sell above 10 million within the launch window. But is also a small game that gives them prestige

/S it's beyond a joke right now

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus232d ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos2d ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb332d ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC1d 17h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled2d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies2d ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear212d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k42d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC1d 17h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615862d ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k41d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k41d 21h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody2d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead2d ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage2d ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast2d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19792d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19792d ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage2d ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead4d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel4d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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