Gamespot: Gran Turismo 5 Review

Like a classic car that has been lovingly but only partially restored, parts of Gran Turismo 5 look as good as new, while others are showing their age. Developer Polyphony Digital's latest "real driving simulator" introduces plenty of great new features to the long-running series, but it also recycles a lot of content. This is undoubtedly the biggest and best Gran Turismo yet, and despite its impressive level of realism it's also the most accessible, but aspects of both the gameplay and the visuals evoke deja vu, while the all-new online play uses a lobby system with about as many modern conveniences as a Ford Model T. If you love to drive, Gran Turismo 5 is a game that you're sure to enjoy; just don't expect it to have that new-car smell.

[Wakka_]

GameSpot's review was the one we were waiting for and listening to right? I mean they did take their time with their review.

And Gamespot is not biased against PS3. They gave MGS4 and Demon's Souls GOTY. No excuses please.

[Hydrolex]

No, I agree

GT5 wasn't what I was expecting, DONT GET ME WRONG, the game is beautiful but after 5 years ????

Also 1000 cars is a lie, only 300 of cars are Very good the rest are duplicated models and ....

[Rumor]

i can actually trust this review. not biased. second only to x play on g4. love their reviews..short, sweet, unbbaised, and for the gamer!!

[SoapShoes]

That is incorrect and I am glad they included standard models, because I am a fan of cars and there are a lot of good standard cars. This game is great!

[MariaHelFutura]

After 5 years....

Go-karts, Rally, Nascar, B-Spec, A-Spec, lots of tracks and track layouts, 250+ premium cars, 700+ standard cars, The most realist damage ever (at lvl 25-40), Rain, Snow, Time change, Track Editor and Gorgeous Graphics just wasn`t enough. Its funny, cause this game made me realize how pathetic everything in gaming has become. Maybe they should have put guns on the cars to please all you simpletons......

@hydrolex (below)

Not me. This game exceeded my expectations ,in all reality. It`s art in car form. I`ll be playing this for years.

WAIT.WAIT. You think game should be reviewed based on hype and the time it took to make it?!?! Do you have ANY idea how stupid that sounds?!?! A game should be reviewed for what it is and who is going to be playing it.

[Hydrolex]

What I disagree the most is, this game is better than Forza 3 but... the hype and the 5 years are the reson why it got lower reviews, people were expecting more

[256bit]

so....the same model cars that are 2 yrs apart like a 07 and 09 are dupe cars?

[RedDead]

I don't think you understand, Forza is a raod racing game only, and it got high scores as a road racing game. GT5 trys everything. Forza beat GT5 in Road racing Imo.

Also I can't believe I have to remind people about this
QUality over quantity. 1000 were only 230 are actually good? How about we he a middle ground? How about 500-600 of Almost premium quality cars?

People saying damage is too hard for newcomers? Look up GTR2.

With all this said, what would I prefare? Forza3 or GT5? Of course GT5, it's just got so much more in it.

However GT5 again, it's a whole product, you can't review a game on only half of it. Half is bueatiful tracks and premium cars, the other half is mediocre graphics with gimpped cars.

[Anton Chigurh]

I can live with that.

[BABY-JEDI]

The only thing this game does not have is Hoover Car Racing. Your seriously complaining about NOTHING. Appreciate all the extra features/race types that ARE within the game. Infact, why dont you just enjoy playing the game instead of complaining about a game that you were fantasising about?

[Immortal321]

.... its understandable about the online but everything else is bullsh*t.

a game with 1000 cars, 200premium the rest just standard.

[walker01]

but who cares how long a game takes to make? what if you fount out that uncharted was in development for 5 years? would you suddenly think it was no where near as awesome as it was?
and pd has a smaller team and made 3 games during the development of gt5.

[Lifendz]

Gotta respect the GS reviews. They take their time to really play the game and nothing is rushed. I agree with the reviewer for the most part. I still think if PD had included about 50 more premium cars and gotten rid of standard cars altogether the game wolud've scored better. Hopefully they provide a lot of DLC.

[N4g_null]

To be fare all games this gen that took to long to develop and where hyped got panned. Only the fans of these games will still like these games.

Also if you havnt bought gt5 yet then your not going to buy it based on a review.

Sony sort of forgot that this is the online gen. Team races and other social things would have went a long way.

People forget this game was suppose to show why Bly rays are needed, what the ps3 can do when fully taped and other hype riddled pr. The main problem is most people are not true car fans and just wanted a fun game. They clearly did not expect a sim.

[Active Reload]

"No excuses please."

Bollocks!!

[BattleAxe]

What do the reviewers expect, the player to have the ability to squirt a turtle shell out the back end in order to force your opponent off the road? Sheesh!

[Armyntt]

Dude you knew from the get go there was not going to be 1000 cars. I mean its impossible to have 1000 different car models with the physics and what not.

[SonyWarrior]

if gt5 shipped with the mechanical damage patch were getting soon i bet it would have scored better

[Bereaver]

"This is undoubtedly the biggest and best Gran Turismo yet"

But, they gave GT4 a 8.9/9.

*edit*

The game was also given "the bad" of

1. Bad music

You can create your own custom playlist of any music you want through USB. So I guess all music is bad?

2. Long load times.

It's only a few seconds longer than Forza 3, but forza 3 didn't recieve that.

3. Bad first impression.

If bad first impressions are what you're looking for try EVE online. Over complicated and an incredibly bitter first experience. But if you give it time, it's amazing.

[TheIneffableBob]

Standards change over time. Many racing games have come out since GT4.

[Weaksauce1138]

"but aspects of both the gameplay and the visuals evoke deja vu, while the all-new online play uses a lobby system with about as many modern conveniences as a Ford Model T"

If you kept reading.

[SoapShoes]

Yeah but GT5 is better than them all. PS3 exclusives are held at a higher standard than other games and it shows with things on GT5 being complained about but not on other games. If Modern Wafare 2 was only on PS3 it would have had reviewers bashing it for glitches and poor campaign.

As for waiting for Gamespot, I wasn't. Their preview sucked and why wait for someone to tell me what they think about the game?

[Weaksauce1138]

Your half right, exclusives (exclusing Wii) are scrutinized under a fanboy microscope from both sides. The fact that either side gets it to a more or less degree is purely a myth that changes sides as needed to feed the fire.

[bunfighterii]

But I really love the music in GT5...

[Halochampian]

@estranged

Im sure... and this standard is held because?

At the bad music.. it is pretty bad.Amazing Grace?? really??? And even though it has an option for custom soundtracks.. its not a part of the game exactly.

As for the load times. They are bad... and due to the way the game is set up, you have to go through them sooo many times! lets say you go to the race, and you try to figure out which races you can enter, but realize you have the wrong car chosen.. you have to go all the way back to your garage and then choose the car and go back. This process is actually very time consuming.

[Homicide]

1. "You can create your own custom playlist of any music you want through USB. So I guess all music is bad?"

They're talking about the music that was included in the game obviously. Yes, custom playlist is the solution, but not everyone knows about this feature nor do they know how to copy music to the PS3 (I'm serious). Is My Chemical Romance the intro music? I saw an article that it was, but hopefully someone can confirm this? If it is, then I can see why they gave it a bad music emblem :P

2. "It's only a few seconds longer than Forza 3, but forza 3 didn't recieve that."

Loading times are long. Just accept it, and they also take the long install into consideration and how it's implemented.

3. "If bad first impressions are what you're looking for try EVE online. Over complicated and an incredibly bitter first experience. But if you give it time, it's amazing."

GameSpot said the long load times, the installs, menus and music gave them a bad first impression. They talk about your first car. I can see the loading times, installs and confusing menus turn someone off.

[TheBlackSmoke]

All of those who think these scores mean forza 3 is "better", you have to realise that one company aimed for the moon whilst the other aimed for the stars.

PD did not get beaten by Turn10, they just had more ambition from the start, more to live up to. That being said, they still created an amazing product.

[skrug]

@Halochampian
"lets say you go to the race, and you try to figure out which races you can enter, but realize you have the wrong car chosen.. you have to go all the way back to your garage and then choose the car and go back. This process is actually very time consuming. "

I see you didn't play GT5...

There's a button during that race menu screen to go to ur garage to change car, tune the cars etc

[blusoops]

You dont have to "Go all the way back to your garage". U have the option of switching AND tuning a car right before a race. Right there at the menu screen of each race or event. It'll even tell you which of your cars qualify for said event...so...

[IRetrouk]

actually, if you need to change your car in those instances all you have to do is click the car icon and it brings up you garage with no load time, if you played the game you would know this.

[Immortal321]

review a ps3 exclusive, it seems that those reviews are from a 360fanboy perspective. That's why when deducting scores, the reasons are straight up nitpick(s). The game got an 8.0, and it's a good score. But for a game like gt5! no... give me solid reasons why this game receive such a score.

here are the reasons:
Quality of visuals is wildly inconsistent,

Outdated and impractical online lobby system- which seems to be the most valid point.

Too easy to win early races simply by entering in a powerful car.

Now in total, these negatives deducted 2 whole points, which mean, the problems in the game should be noticeable.

I don't have the game yet, but when I get it today, I will be looking for these issues.

[acedoh]

Who cares about standards when it comes to GT5??? I think the Polyphony team held themselves up to a high standard. If this game does not crack 5 million sold it will be a disappointment to SONY and Polyphony and serious changes will be made. I love the game although after many hours and level 20 one thing is apparent and that is lack of tracks and races. One thing I have always loved about this series is getting better licenses to get in tougher races. I have yet to see any endurance races which I find disappointing. Also this game need at least 10 more tracks. If you are going to play it to a serious level you do need more variety.

[BillOreilly]

LOL with all this ps3 games are judged by higher standards. Heres the game, heres the reviews. 1+1=2 . All these bs excuses. Do you guys acually believe that. If you like the game great thats all that matters but there is no legion of we review ps3 games harsher crap. I bet you think the world is out to get you because your job sucks and your girls fugly.

[deadreckoning666]

GREAT review

"This is undoubtedly the biggest and best Gran Turismo yet"

"But, they gave GT4 a 8.9/9."

The standards for games when GT4 came out are different from the standards for games today.

For example, lets talk graphics. When GT4 came out, it was shocking how good it looked since the PS2 wasn't viewed as the "graphical powerhouse" of the last generation..the Xbox was.

Fast forward to 2010, where the PS3 IS the graphical powerhouse as far as HD gaming consoles are concerned. Considering it took nearly half a decade to make and it was developed exclusively for the PS3...GT5's graphics are less impressive than GT4's graphics in the sense that GT5's level of graphical detail is EXPECTED considering the time PD had to make the game and the raw power of the PS3's CPU.

@Maria- U missed the whole point of my comment. Gamespot gave GT4 a higher score than GT5 for the same reason that they gave Halo 1 a higher score than every other Halo game.

GT4 and Halo 1, at the time of their release, gave gamers things that they gave NEVER seen before. THATS why their critical acclaim is so high. GT5(while obviously better than GT4 in technical terms such as content, graphics, and physics) is merely a refinement to the genre. In order, for a sequal to outscore an awesome predecessor they need to do something radically different that betters the experience and brings the genre forward. From what I'm hearing, GT5 did not accomplish that.

[MariaHelFutura]

Show me a racing game w/ better graphics and more content.....or just keep quiet.

You don`t think GT5 reflects the time put in. Have you seen the lvl 40 damage vids?!?!?

@(below)

No. But it shouldn`t get dissed.

[Weaksauce1138]

Because there is nothing better doesnt mean it should get a 10. What better console RTS is there besides Halo Wars? You would have to be on crack to think that was a 10 game though.

[dabri5]

I have seen the vids but it doesn't make the ps2 imported models look any better. For every amazing aspect of the game there is an equally jarring/ dated counterpart. The scenery looks horrible at parts. Trees and shrubbery look like ps2 place holders. Standard cars are from ps2 gt4 with upscaled res. The menu system is archaic and lacks many options that are seen as standard these days. Forza 3 has long load times. Just as long as gt5 but people complain about it in gt5 because the menus are set up so bad, you have to go through several screens and a few extra load bars just to get the same thing done that would of taken only one or two clicks from the same screen in Forza. This isn't a technical limitation. just bad design. Pd may know cars but they need to learn that making some things simple or easy to do, like the menus and online system, is ok.

[skrug]

@deadreckoning

why are you in every gt5 article? When you haven't even play it..

let me quote you on one of your comments

deadreckoning666 - "How is Kinect overhyped? It performed exactly what it set out to do as far as controller free gaming is concerned. If you played it you would understand that, whether the games appeal to you or not. "

[itchy18]

dead you haven't even played this game yet. you are even in doubt if you're gonna get this game.

[Traveler]

To be fair here guys are we really going to go down the road of saying that nobody can comment on anything unless they personally own it or have spent a lot of time with it?

If so, most of those Kinect articles would have been ghost towns.

[Rampant]

8.9/9 is indeed a great score.

[smash1031]

Gamespot gave it a an 8/10.

[Doletskaya]

And it does make sense that some of the content in GT5 are outdated because after all, the game has been in development for half a decade, and there must be some elements that were made at the beginning.

[SoapShoes]

How was it in development for half a decade? PS3 has only been out since 2006. When PS3 was announced it was called, "Vision Gran Turismo". They changed their development to GT HD in 2006, then started work on GT5 Prologue in 2007. 3 years at the best, but considering they were planning on expanding Prologue before starting on GT5 I would say that is debatable.

[Si_85]

@Estranged

Well said, but you forgot Gran Turismo PSP =)

Since 2006 PD have worked on...

Vision Gran Turismo/Gran Turismo HD
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
Gran Turismo PSP
Gran Turismo 5

...three of which saw full-retail release and the other as a PSN demo.

So all you 360 fanboys can STFU about this half-decade development cycle because it's complete nonsense.

[TheStorm]

Wakka give me a break, no excuses for what? That most gamers are arcade based people that don't like simulation. You know who's review I've been waiting for...myself. And that's all that matters. So I know you have never played a GT game with comments like this. So I guess you base the greatness of a game purely on reviews eh? That's cute.

[Sunny_D]

@Wakka_ I don't know about others, but I will respect Gamespot's review. They took their time and if they felt it was an 8/10 game then so be it. Atleast, they didn't release their review at 12:01 A.M. Wednesday like another reviewer...

[ChineseDemocracy]

Whatever, I'm still enjoying it.

Play games, not reviews.

[SoapShoes]

I respect their review, but I disagree with their opinion. I think the game is great, a 9/10. Does that mean their opinion is wrong? No, but it does mean that not everyone agrees with it. I don't let reviews mold my opinion on something and judging by positive player feedback, many do not either.

[suckerpunch]

gamespot ? ign ? GT ? they are all the same. ign doesn't know how to review games ? they have been pretty consistent lately, with gamespot and meta.

i love giantbomb. jeff grestman, remember ? their review are awesome.

[talltony]

It is quite clear that this game is getting tons of mixed reviews so dnt act like gt5 is an 8 or a 10. Play the damn game and quit all this crazy complaining. It's a ambitious game with a buttload of content. Any game with a buttload of content like gt5 has to have a few faults. It's 20 gigs for gods sake.

[LiquifiedArt]

To give a 8/10 to a game with so much content...

I think its completely inpractical. Its not glitchy, its not a short game. It has satisfactory online and many addtional features such as gttv, photo mode and track generator.

I just don't see this game as anything below a 9/10 and thats nitpicking.

Your all out of your minds, if you pass this up your doing yourself a HUGE injustice.

Sidenote: I own every GT. I have a wheel and a chair. This game is absolutely WONDERFUL. I kid you not and i'm HUGELY thankful to Kaz for including all the Old cars, as I have relationships with many of them!

[itchy18]

plus the physics are great!

[Karlnag3]

It takes a man with many problems to sleep around with cars.

[N4g_null]

Could it be that it's just not fun? I mean you can make a fishing sim with 5,000 fish types and google map support and it could still not be fun.

[TheTwelve]

No wonder people accuse these reviewers of being bought-off with these kinds of reviews!

GT5 only does what is necessary to keep it a Gran Turismo game; there's nothing wrong with a franchise keeping the aspects of what define it. Every other franchise does it.

Franchises that don't (Final Fantasy) are criticized for it.

And yet GT5 adds so much more on top of what every Gran Turismo fan knows and loves. This game is like a MMORPG for car lovers.

Even the "Special Events" part of the game, which allows players to engage in races based on popular and real backdrops (Jeff Gordon and NASCAR, TOPGEAR, etc) is worth the price of admission. It's awesome.

My only complaints are that the cars don't look exactly as realistic as I imagined, but then again, any more realistic and you have real life.

I only agree with the online mode complaints thus far --- issues that if truly significant will be patched.

This game is about as perfect as perfect can get, short of being a real-life racer in 2010.

The five years of work in this game is apparent to me; I seriously struggle to understand what more I could have wanted out of it. Eventually, they have to release the game --- if Polyphony tried to add everything that people can imagine into the game, it would never come out. I think that along with install base concerns is the reason for the 5 years, tbh.

That's the thing --- I don't know what more they could have done with GT5.

Finally, I think that GT5 Prologue and perhaps even the PSP version of Gran Turismo gave people a clue of what GT5 would be and this perhaps "spoiled" the full effect of GT5 for some people.

But you have to be mature about this --- look at all that is in this game and that it's being sold for $60. That alone is 10/10 worthy in this day and age of games being released for full price and then having DLC a week later.

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PSN: TheTwelve (add me)

[kindi_boy]

Standard cars, standard cars, standard cars, no match making, standard cards, standard cars, no matchmaking, standard cars, standard cars, no matchmaking, standard cards....etc...

not a single useful thing with this review.
they delayed it for nothing.

check
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

and
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

that's indepth

[Hanilugtehul]

no i dont think gamespot is biased against the ps3.I respect gamespots opnion,but my own opinion is that gt5 is great and anything under a 9 is crazy:-) But WAKKA the big question here is,have you played the game?(more than a couple of hours)PEACE:-)

[XabiTheHumble]

@Wakka bro stfu, why are you starting already?

[iPad]

I just saw the review on YouTube.

1. How they were reviewing it, it seems like it got a 9.5
2. The guy complained about the menus...............

MENUS!

[FanboyPunisher]

Quality of visuals is wildly inconsistent Outdated and impractical online lobby system Too easy to win early races simply by entering in a powerful car.

Inconsistent visuals is unacceptable, I guess they rushed the rest of the tracks, and only used screen previews of the good looking stuff to sucker everyone in.

[ilikestuff]

i love gt5, i love gt4, 3, 2, and 1 also, ive been playing it hardcore and loving every second since i was 12, its the only racing game i like, but i agree with every thing in this review,some parts of this game are breathtaking to say the least, but others are ps2 graphics, it blows me mind.

[Balt]

Yeah, that's a shame. Good score on my end, though. I think it's more like a 6, myself. Maybe a 5. It's average. It's one of those games you can miss and not feel like you've missed out on anything.

[RememberThe357]

I completely disagree. But I love Gran Turismo and I love cars, so maybe I have a different point of view.

I truly feel like Gran Turismo 5 is one of the best games this generation. The game is like a drug to me the more I play it the more I want to play it. The physics are insane and the attention to detail is astounding.

But that's just my opinion.

[Hanilugtehul]

why the hell are you in every gt5 article if you dont like the game? you a fucking mystery too me, cant you just get a hobby and leave the gaming too the real gamers. Peace:-)

[Chuk5]

Really people will belive what they want. I don't mean for that to sound derogatory so hold your disagree. The community has shown that they enjoy the game so that's that really. It had massive hype, and didnèt cash in on all of it but the fans are happy. At least for now, provided it doesn't go all MW2 and deteriorate over time online..

[vhero]

Exactly Chuk I wasn't gonna get the game but Black Ops was so bad I got it for a £5 when I traded in BO. I don't regret that decision 1 bit!

[blasian]

Very comprehensive. Good review

[A LIVING LEGEND]

'We' can sleep tonight.
'We' can even pray that no one catches us playing this inferior trash.
We can lie well,we were taught well.

[Quagmire]

LMFAO

IGN gives 8.5 - "IGN is teh failz at gaemz, lolzorz"
Gamespot gives 8 - "*read comments above*"

Ironic. But yeah, Gamespot is a trustworthy reviewer, and no GT5 isnt a perfect game, but it sure as hell is the closest thing to it compared to anything else.

[RememberThe357]

No they're not. They fired a guy for give a game a low score. I'm glad they did because Giant Bomb is one of the best gaming site on the net.

I mostly trust Game Informer or Giant Bomb, because when I don't agree with them at least I understand why. I haven't found the same consistency in any other reviewer.

[despair]

I agree that Gamespot is a very reliable review site and 8/10 is their prerogative but they, and other reviewers as well, have let their expectations of the game affect the review.

I mean the things they are complaining about are present in other games and are mentioned as an after thought(well most of them) and doesn't really affect the score yet they minus 2 points of the score for what they didn't get but wanted?

I respect GS for reviewing the game fully before putting out a review but I disagree with their final analysis which is my prerogative as well.

The quality of GT5 far outweighs its problems and it certainly is not a perfect game like so many keep saying, but it is not a bad or even good game, from what I've played(very limited at a friend's house, damn you shipping time) it is a great game with flaws and people are treating it like it is a failure for not being perfect or living up to their lofty expectations.

@RememberThe357

They've improved quite a bit since that Kane and Lynch controversy.

[TAMram]

I have a question. See ever since GT5 released and reviews have been pouring since then I see alot of 7/10-8/10 review scores and when the happens everyone's comment is the same. People talking forza people saying they reviewed the game to early people just saying the same comments on every 7/10 8/10 review. Is their some kinda cycle going where everyone repeats the same thing over and over again?

Also, my next question do reviews matter?

[ECM0NEY]

Yes and sometimes.

[PS360PCROCKS]

I can agree with their gripes. I think their score is a little too low, but it's their opinion. GT5 is getting lower scores because everyone expected more than they got. If GT5 was the first GT game, guaranteed the scores would be higher, It's kind of an unfair disadvantage. But the only opinion that matters is your own, and I think it's the best racing game I've ever played.

EDIT:: Absolutely agree with you. To quote myself from another article:

"Personally i'm not a car enthusiast. i love cars but i'm not a gear head, nor a huge racing game fan. GT has always annoyed me because i felt it to be so damn hard. I also have never owned a GT game, only played them. But I set my sights on GT5 and ordered a Driving force GT. Lemme tell ya, boy am I impressed. GT5 is more intuitive than it's predecessors by far, just the addition of the driving line is a great improvement. The game eases you into action, teaches you how to drive and gives you great satisfaction. Last week I would have hit every wall on the nurburgring. This week I'm racing around that track like nobody's business, having the time of my life and wanting to scream out loud "wahoo!!"

This game is awesome and truly is fun when you respect what it's trying to teach you."

[SoapShoes]

That's why no one(GT fans, racing fans, car fans, etc) cares about the reviews. These critics may have expected more, but most of the fans were blown away with all of the content never before seen in a GT game. You don't have to be a GT fan to love this game and unless you just hate simulators would you dislike it.

[hoops]

If GT fans did not care about reviews then why are there forums all over the web now that have those fans saying the reviews are all wrong and its biased against the PS3...IF REVIEWS DON'T MATTER?
Reality is REVIEWS mean squat if you love the game.
Reviews are one persons opinion.
But to say GT fans don't care about reviews when there has been a lot of hoopla since release is quite wrong. Just look at the GT5 threads on this site for proof.

Reviews mean shit. Just enjoy the game you bought and to hell with what one site tells you. It's YOU that are playing the game.

[mc-fine]

Heh totally with you on the Driving Force wheel. Never was a big fan of racing sims but the wheel plus this game makes it so much fun. The feedback from the road, grip on the tires everything feels awesome with the Logitech DFGT. I wouldn't have looked at GT5 if not for seeing a video about the wheel and I'm glad I did.

The game does not deserve a perfect score cause its lacking in the online experience with subpar match making. Its quite behind the times in that regard. They could have done so much more with the map maker that mixed in with a better online experience would be worthy of all 10s and 9s.

Much like I can't play Street Fighter anymore without an arcade stick I will never be able to play another racing sim without a wheel.

[turgore]

its not a bad game but we expected more

[MysticStrummer]

After all this "more of the same" business, the next Call of Duty had better get a 5. GT5 actually surpassed my expectations. It's still not perfect, but it deserves better reviews than what it's getting.

[InvaderZim]

You took the words right out of my mouth. Why is GT the only game that gets punished for this? It doesn't seem fair at all. In my opinion, if GT5 is an 8 then Black Ops is a 4 or 5. Just trying to be as honest and fair as possible people.

[A LIVING LEGEND]

It lacks; Zombies,shooting(of any kind),turns,10's,duplicate discs,rewind,remorse,planetary power struggles,hate mongering,free pills.
It is fail.

[komp]

bubbles. haha.

[Quietpower10]

Ouch...

[gamingisnotacrime]

if you play the game you will see there is little to be ouch about. details are off but the driving is unmatched

[Quietpower10]

True.

I've been pretty skeptical whether purchasing GT5 since it hasn't been receiving my expectation scores. Hell and I usually rely on Gamespot's review scores whether to see if these games are worthy of my money.

Anyway why am I wasting my time for? An 8 is consider Great after all. I'm going to get Grand Turismo 5 right now!! :D

[Darkshader]

They can say what they want. This is my first time to purchase a racing game. I skiped all the previous Grand Turismo game because im not a racing fan. I purchased GT5 because i believed in PD. Based on my analyst and playing this game since launched, GT5 is a solid 9.5 in my book.

[Arup02]

Finally the GS review. i like it

[UnoMoment0]

Is that it? Is this what we waited all this time for? I'm talking about the review. I'm finding it a bit too familiar, nothing new here. All that time and the review is what we've been hearing all along. Great review if gamespot is your thing, but there is a new review standard now...yes my comment is actually about the game lol

[gamingisnotacrime]

the inconsistency in visuals from one track to another and standard from premium cars is too much to ignore. It looks old with some sparkling touches. but the driving pysics are soooooooo good

i want more! lol

[BYE]

Nice review.

Give it 2 points more and the score is accurate.

[UnoMoment0]

MariaHelFutura + 30m ago
After 5 years....
Go-karts, Rally, Nascar, B-Spec, A-
Spec, lots of tracks and track layouts,
250+ premium cars, 700+ standard
cars, The most realist damage ever
(at lvl 25-40), Rain, Snow, Time
change, Track Editor and Gorgeous
Graphics just wasn`t enough. Its
funny, cause this game made me
realize how pathetic everything in
gaming has become. Maybe they
should have put guns on the cars to
please all you simpletons......this guy isn't letting up lol. He,s like one of those doomsday sayers you meet on the streets proclaiming to everyone how the world is about to end. We all feel sorry for him but we can't help but chuckle at his paranoia

[Scotland-The-Brave]

Whos mother?

[PlayerX]

I really don't see what people expected seeing as Gamespot and IGN usually have similar scores for all big games. GT5 is a decent game, but no where near the hype that I have seen all over this site.

[Esena]

Although I don't personally agree with the score, and I don't think their words match their rating, I have to admit this is a very solid review.

Touching on many key issues, mentioning the weak and strong points, etc. What I am interested when I play GT games is the realistic driving experience... and they even said it... this is the best place to go for a realistic racing experience. :)

[horndog]

Looks like ign was to generous. This game just can't get into the 9's. It just isn't top notch material. I can't wait to pick it up in the bargain bins just like i did with Killzone 2.

[Sez]

That's what I'm pretty much going to do. I'm not going to spend $65. On this game. I'm just going to wait for it to hit the used shelf at gamestop. Then I'll trade in a couple games for it or if the price is reasonable I'll pick it up.

[Dark-Cloud]

this is bullshit .. gt5 deserve 10/10 compared to the other games .. even if they take a year playing it they won'tput a good score because they don't know how to play and don't know whats in it ..

[Gambit07]

I'll wait for GT6.

[A LIVING LEGEND]

as will I.having never intended on purchasing either.
I will 'wait' for GT9.

[I_Like_Good_Games]

An 8 is being completely Honest.

IGN also had this game pegged review wise.

[itchy18]

well sorry for the people who are going to pick this game up in the bargain bins cause you'll miss a lot. but us people who already own it will enjoy this huge game.

[saimcheeda]

because if the game doesnt get 90+ scores it ends up being a disappointment!

[Pirateogta]

Six years in development and insane God-like hype will do that for any game. It may not be as good as Forza Motorsport 3, but it's still a great game for any racing fan.

[IRetrouk]

sorry but its better than forza 3, played both for hours and hours and gt trumps it. sorry. just honesty.

[SaberEdge]

That's your opinion. Most of the reviewers apparently feel otherwise.

[Graey]

In comparison can't you guys just say hey this is my opinion but x game is better than y game. It's really annoying to hear opinions sugar coated as fact.

Hey Jesus is better than Superman, Gargamel is more evil than The Grinch. Cap'n Crunch is a better pirate than Jack Sparrow.

Seriously though it's all just an opinion but when you say your opinion as fact and then bash others for theirs...now that's just plain rude. At the least spin it as an opinion and not the Gospel.

Random Thought: "Who stole the cookie from the cookie jar, Who Me! Yes You!!, Couldn't Be!!! Then Who!?"

[djfullshred]

too much hype = too much noise

But despite all the noise, people that have been interested in this game are going to buy it. Maybe some will wait because of all the noise going on right now. Then when they see nothing on the horizon that is nearly as good for a racing game, they will go out & buy this game. And after playing it myself for a bunch of hours now, I am sure they will enjoy it on it's own merits when they do buy it.

[horndog]

"IHATEYOUFANBOYS"

you are absolutely correct. The only problem is that the fanboys don't won't to hear that sh*t. They don't want to hear that the their very very looooooong awaited game has so many flaws . They don't wan't to beleive that that game is nothing more than average. Telling them the truth will only make your bubble count drop fast. Every journalist out there who has given GT5 less than 9 is a f*cking xbox nut hugger. Reality doesn't sit well here.

This site is a gong show.

[Graey]

Ok but what about the sites that have given GT higher than a 9? Honestly you seem angry, my suggestion instead of disagreeing that the game is bad and the fanboys should suck it up. Perhaps play it and see for yourself whether it warrants the score you so eagerly await to defend.

While I respect GS review I really do have to say they are wrong. 9/10 at the least. If you are however playing the game, then what is your thoughts/score.

[A LIVING LEGEND]

Don't worry horndog,we can create multiple accounts on multiple sites and hopefully live the multiple dream.
We can never play or purchase or own anything outside the dream.We can however.... express opinions as though fact because it is a dream.We can shape it.

[AwesomeJizz]

Dude that was deep

[JonnyBigBoss]

Well, I'm a huge car fan and this game satisfies me more than any other. I'd give it a 9.5 just for the experience it provides.

[SaberEdge]

jleack, you say that about almost every PS3 game. It starts to lose its effect after, oh, the 20th time.

[blackburn5]

InvaderZim it is a well known fact that PS3 games always get lower scores for things that are not even mentioned in other games. GT5 has glitches but other buggy, broken and almost unplayable games get a free ride with out a scratch. Starcraft 2 was worked on for probably as long as GT5 was and still had to be patched after it was released.No one made huge headlines about it taking so long and still having problems.Games like Crackdown 2 and Fallout New Vegas are practically cut and paste copies of their counter parts but still got sales. Microsoft's games have terrible game stories that are so mindless and cliche that make you want to mute the television so you don't have to listen to them. But UC2 gets lowers scores for being cliche while other games get perfect scores while their stupid mindless stories are ignored.

Other developers make the same games every year. Each one is basically a cookie cutter expansion pack of the last one. Yet God of War and Ratchet and Clank sequels are accused of being the same game every time and are said to be boring and repetitive.Everyone is always ready to tell the 'truth' when it comes to PS3 games but anything else gets a million excuses why you ignore the glitches, repetitiveness, short campaigns, crappy story, lazy design etc. Xplay does it all the time. They say things like 'The story is stupid but hey it's a Mario, Gears or Halo game. Who cares about that?' and slap on a perfect score.I don't mind if people find something wrong with a PS3 game but don't judge it differently. 360, PC and Wii games should be all judged by the same standards not get special treatment for any reason. You shouldn't say a game's graphics are good for a Wii game for example.The graphics are either bad or good one or the other

[baodeus]

oh black burn,

starcraft constantly having patches for a different reason, to make the game more balance. That is what star craft is known for and why the gameplay is top notch.

They patch GT5 because it is buggy, not working, etc.....

You see the differences?

[yewles1]

Wrong on so many levels... -_-

[N4g_null]

Remember the ps3 is more powerful it can't have the same short comings. Hey the hardware crown is very painful one. Add to the fact most people don't like sims.

[djfullshred]

Things made for "most people" are usually watered down, generic products. No thanks from me in joining the "me too" herd.

[Masterchef2007]

They still gave GT5 a good score. Looks like fanboys failed with gamespots prediction of a 6.

[James Vanderbeek]

games arent games anymore. people want non stop action. why do u think fps games are taking over. some people need more than video games. why do u think we have crap like move, the f'ing wii (waste of time), and kinect. its all a gimick for stupid a$$ people. dude i saw a commerical for kinect the other day about a game u buy to work out on the 360.. WTF!!!!!! is this world coming to.. lol. u buy a 360 or a ps3 to play GAMES!!! not dance around like a crack head. go to the damn gym if u want to workout. also rock band is cool and all but that isnt a f'ing video game. its a joke man. i miss the old school days where u can just play a game alone and be happy. now u need people to play with or ur not happy.

gt5 seems like a full fledge f'ing video game that sticks its juggs in ur mouth. but people just want to hate on it. where is the hate for games like modern warfare 2? 4 hour campaigne. super crap compared to cod4.

[Graey]

Indeed.

We are seeing the decline of the gaming medium. Older crowds, lol myself included were brought up on a different sort of milk. Games were there but weren't catered to hard or easy. They just were, you didn't get hand outs, you became better.

I can understand the sweet spot of catering to Hardcore and Casuals, but don't loose the sauce trying to get everyone in the pot.

or and African Proverb...a squirrel going after 2 nuts will soon have none. Another point to ponder...do they have squirrels in Africa...See now your thinking on a deeper level.

[N4g_null]

Lol a sim is not a game. People have been working out in games since the power pad! Then on top of every thing the sim isn't complete.

You just seem bitter. Why do you care what is liked universally? If you had a Wii you could play lots of just released game by your self.

For some reason your frustration seems misplaced. Mario kart was completely panned by the media and it still sold 20 million. Don't worry the game will sell. This just shows certain types of gamers are leaving gaming.

[A LIVING LEGEND]

@Baodeus
oh baodeus,
The "Balance" patches made an almost unplayable mess a somewhat tolerable experience but an unworthy sequel without um....further patches to improve balance,bugs,workability,etc.. ..
The " differences" are easily seen and apparent.

[bennyace]

I think the review nailed it when he said "recycles a lot". That's how I felt when played the first time. I'll be honest I only at level 6. But it's not really all that impressive. It's still a bumber car racing game so far. And don't try to make me believe that it's a good thing that damage "unlocks" later and it gives the game a sense of rpg! what? really? In my opinion, it's just a way to hide a big probleme of the game for the fact that they ported a lot of cars from gt4 and couldn't implement damage to those said cars. And no cockpit view for 80% of the cars. You're stuck with only the road to see (like if you'd be lying on the hood) that's realistic! LOL, and you rpm and speed gauge. This is a big let down for me. I'm sorry but it's not what we were lead to believe before the release of the game. No wander reviewers ar a bit disapointed in general. I know I am!

Yes it might deliver on something that I might not have seen yet. But what I saw it's pretty average.

I'm a racing games fan and I've played both Forza games also on the 360. And so far I'll take a Forza game every 2 years instead of a GT game every 5 years.

[IRetrouk]

im level 20 almost 21, and i have had to use maybe 2 or 3 standard cars, there are enough premiums so that you dont have to touch the standards, your making a big deal of nothing, also damage is there from the start, i messed up my first impreza quite bad.

[Bolts]

The repairs are killing me. I can barely afford to buy new cars but that isn't preventing me from enjoying the game. However I wouldn't mind paying these bills if the damage incurred from racing would display some sort realistic physics. No matter what level you're on the collision physics is extremely bumper car like and bullshit in general.

[djfullshred]

Don't spend money on chassis repairs unless your car is acting totally wack, or motor repairs unless you see the HP is much lower than it used to be.

This is an area they should improve on with some kind of display to show how much the car is degraded, because at first you don't realize one easy lap in a new car will autmatically trigger the option to purchase a chassis repair, even though it is totally unneccesary. Obviously in real life, you can inspect your car for damage, so something like that should be included in the game if they are going to include repairs as a feature.

[bviperz]

I just hope that no one walks away from at least trying GT5 because it's getting good scores and not great scores.

[Bolts]

This huge uproar from the GT5 fanboys is because the average is roughly 8.0. Not a perfect score like they expect.

However if they actually spend time to read the reviews, they'll realize that some of the criticism are valid in many regards.

For example the racing experience is very stale, the AI are drone like, they never crash, they don't make mistakes and there's no damage modeling on the AI cars. You can plow your car into the wall and pay a huge repair bill but you're still playing bumper cars with the AI. You can run head on into the AI at 150mph at level 40 and they'll shake it off and continue driving as if they just ran into a plastic box.

There are some aspect of GT5 that is deserving of praise but it's far and away from being the perfect sim merely because some aspect of the racing experience is not simulated at all. It's abstracted.

[xg-ei8ht]

Forza got it's scores because of easy to play, It's not a sim.

GT is a sim through and through.

Even arcade mode is.

And that is the problem, arcade should have been more fun in that respect.

Then there is the graphics.

In terms of cars,lighting,tracks. Gt remains untouched by any.

The game is crystal clear.

But i know what people are moaning about.

Tree's - Shadows - and a few textures on old tracks.

I think they should have gone with x2aa for 720p with all those cars, would be less bandwidth, and use that was shadow aa.

In the case of content.

There is so much, no other game comes close unless it's an rpg.

[guigsy]

Forza 3 is not easy to play with all the assists turned off. Many people talk as if they've played Forza 3 and feel they have a right to diss it when it's obvious they haven't.

[smash1031]

I agree. Forza without the assists is not easy.

[djfullshred]

I like GT5, but it is a psuedo-sim - half sim, half arcade racer. It simulates how cars behave without contact very well (simulation). It does not simulate what happens when cars make contact with another car or object at speed in any realistic way, nor do the NPC cars behave like autonomous drivers looking out for what's happening on the track with other cars (arcade style).

If people would get away from this puritanical view of either sim or arcade game, and see this as a combination of both to different degrees, they might be able to accept the game on it's own terms.

[mp1289]

it seems to me like the game would have obtained a higher score if it had 200 cars and less tracks. only the premium ones. thats unfair to the game. very informative review though, the guy knows what he is talking about unlike every one else.

[aaronobst]

note this is from the same people who gave GTA IV a 10

[granthinds]

I agree with GameSpot. That's all.

[Sonyslave3]

Like public enemy would say Don't Believe The Hype

[Duxer]

Gamespot gave Final Fantasy IX a 8.5 (my BEST game ever). So I don't care about anything Gamespot says.

[RonXD]

Stop crying about review scores.

At the end of the day, if you enjoy the game then that's all that matters. Has a review score really made any of you enjoy the game less than you would have if it got a good score? I highly doubt it.

[Orange Juice]

GT5 is my personal GOTY, I love everything about it even though it didnt get 10's all around like LBP and UC2. Thats okay, right? Or am I wrong?

[Graey]

Okay. I consider this a valid point, but I really do hope going forward that NFS, GRID, Motostorm, Forza, etc will be judged on the same merits.

Personally I don't think they are, I really do think GT is rated at a much higher standard. No other racing game gets this much attention, I mean NFS just came out what this week, last week how come no one is on that one. Simply In all respect other racers are lunch meals just tiding you over until the next GT. It's always been that way.

On the Issue of Forza. Honestly I don't know if its a arcade or sim game as I've never played it. Can't even say its worse or better than GT, but I do know I don't really hear any really good debates on whether it is or not from someone whose played both.

But if Forza is MS/Turn10's answer to GT then they need to be judged on that same scale. Don't tell me that GT is judged by the same token as its not, as clearly the amount of input on this site alone would suggest otherwise.

I'm not a review and I respect GS's score, but I'd have to respectfully disagree. I can not in good conscience give it less than a 9/10 and that is pushing it.

[djfullshred]

Interesting point, because I remember buying Grid because it got such great reviews.

I think Grid is a very good game, but it pales in comparison to GT5. It's like half or 1/4 a full game compared to GT5. So I think there is something to the expectation factor with GT5 causing review scores to be more harsh compared to a game nobody was expecting to be much.

[artsaber]

Playing it... Loving it... End of Story

So far, a 9/10... some of the challenges make you want to throw your controller. But it is meant to be a challenge, I think this is too much for many to understand who may be reviewing this game.

[Tzuno]

And Forza 3 still stand baby!!!

[Figboy]

for me, the score isn't what's important here.

8/10 is a great score, but what's important to me is the fact that Gamespot actually took their time to play the game.

sure, 10 days may not REALLY be enough to give GT5 it's due, but its' WAAAAAY better than the 2 days most of those other sites looking for hits by getting the review out at 12:01AM on Wednesday the 24th.

i don't need reviews to justify why i should like/dislike a game (just look at the reviews of two of my favorite games of 2007: Folklore and Heavenly Sword).

i appreciate Gamespot, at the least, giving this game more than just a little bit of play time. at the end of their 10 days, they thought it was an 8/10 game. fair enough. many will disagree, sure, but it's still a great score, for a great game.

nobody said GT5 would be perfect (well, nobody but fanboys), but looking at the various GT5 related threads across the net, it seems to me that the GT fanbase is, overall, VERY satisfied with the game, and for Polyphony Digital, i'm sure that's all that matters.

[YOUR-MUM]

I'm confused, is it an xbox fanboy and a playstation troll or the other way round.

[turgore]

GT5...leave rally racing to Dirt. But props for including night races and weather.

[theroadtoruin]

reviews are just opinions and opinions are like a$$holes, everyone has one.

[sleepy3]

That would developers can now feel free to make a game with some stuff they focused on and 80% just stuff they throw in from last gen. Not only that, but also have 80% of the content in their game have different qualities in terms not only graphically, but in terms of what it can do. Why can only 20% of the cars be allowed to reduce unsprung weight, which is a major handling advantage? Surely upgrades should be available to all cars equally. Not to mention that the multiplayer just isn't up to todays standards in terms of matchmaking.

This is a lesson to all developers. When you make a game, make it a UNIFORM experience. None of this "if you choose this you will be blown away....but if you choose this this, meh"

Its like if for KZ3 they decide to have 8 premium guns and 50 standard guns from the PS2 game. And the standard guns don't let you aim down the sights.

Its ridiculous to ship a game with 80% of the content vastly different from the rest. Give us a game that is a uniform experience throughout.

If you disagree and want GT6 to have more of this "standard" and premium divide where premium gets more views, has damage, and can reduce unsprung mass, whereas premium cars can't, well, you just don't value your $60.00

[Vesemir]

I think this review is bad. This guy would be a great restaurant reviewer. Just my opinion.

Then again... gamespot gave LOS a mediocre 7.5
Nitpicking japenese IPs much this year ??

[sleepy3]

I believe SMG2 got a very good score. Japanese IP.

And both of those IP's are out for OVER A DECADE now

wow....imagine gran tursimo is already that old. time flies.

[teething]

Ahhh yes... everyone trashes IGN for "Rushing" it's review before actually playing it fully (i.e. to level 40 where full damage is unlocked. One video was on youtube, it must be true!). Polyphony is labeled as genius for "exposing" reviewers that did not take the time to play to level 40. GT5 fanboys praise the damage in GT5 (having not gotten to Level 40 themselves). Sony denies that damage is actually "unlocked" in GT5. Sony Fanboys chase their tails.

The best part is that Gamespot does not rush their review of GT5... yet gives it a lower score than IGN!!!

Maybe, just maybe... GT5 is an 8.5 game (i.e. metacritic is right), and the reviews are because of the game, and not because all reviewers giving GT5 less than a 10/10 are Xbots.

Thanks for the entertainment Sony Fanboys!