GT5: Can this be true? Incredibly ugly standard cars

Cynamite writes: "We could not believe our eyes when we saw screenshots from Gran Turismo 5, which hopefully could only be fake. Either this is a bug or Polyphony has not applied the same standards for all cars."

[jazzking2001]

or it could simply be that the real version of the car is UGLY lol

[SmokexFFx]

Yeah, the real version of the car must be full of jaggies also.

Is this really how bad the other 800 cars look or is it only these few?

[InfectedDK]

So, the standard cars looks like Forza 3?

Well maybe there's around 10 cars or something that looks a bit like PS2 and need a patch? Nevermind. Before you even notice those car in the game they'll look better. Nothing here folks. Just play the game.

[Braxens]

Because bashing Forza makes it all better

[zootang]

@Braxens

Why bash GT in the first place, it Kills everything else out there and for good measure throws in 3D. These sites should be ignored.

Edit: @Disagrees: Go play NFS with your 67 cars.

[Nihilism]

@Chubear

I believe the trolling of GT5 is what we call 'the karmic wheel'. Remember the year long hype train B.S about "silky smooth 60 frames at 1080p" ( people think GT5= 1920x1080), and all those B.S photo mode screenshots where there was nothing going going on on screen?

How could anyone forget. Now that you are driving down a PS2-esque barren landscape with 2d crowds, trees, and blank green textures for 'hills' etc with massive frame rate dips in regular play ( not '3d' ) with copy/paste PS2 cars, all of a sudden people wonder why they are being called out. It's called humility, you need to learn it because in a few days when yet another mutliplat comes out that looks significantly better on 360 you will look rather stupid if you keep up the same old act.

Even GRID, a 2007 multiplat looks better on PC than the uber produced GT5...GRID has better car models and much much better environments incl. 3D crowds/environments

The only thing GT5 ever had going for it was the car models and it doesn't even have that. You can start talking about GT5 sales now, because you're running out of excuses.

[T9X69]

@zootang - Wait, so you reply to a guy talking about someone bashing Forza, just to turn around and bash NFS......an arcade racer? Who takes NFS as serious as people take GT and Forza? NFS is a great arcade racer and pure fun, why you're comparing that to a simulator is beyond me.

[poopoojames]

I noticed this when watching pre-release gameplay vids stating that the rear of the cars looked horrible but I got a load of disagrees for saying so. You're eating your words fanboys.

[Braxens]

@chubear, how many articles have you seen hyping gears 3 as the next coming in video games? How many articles have you seen talking about how impossible gears 3 would be on ps3?
How many articles have you seen showing video after video, screenshot after screenshot, photo mode after photo mode showing how AMAZING gears 3 looks?
How many fanboys do you hear saying gears of war 3 is the end of ps3.
How many times have you heard that the release date for gears will be the end of all gaming as we know it?
When was the last time you saw a gears article or the last time gears was in the news for over a year straight?
Now after answering all those questions, do you truly believe that the hype for gears 3 is ANYWHERE close to what we've had to endure for the last 2 years with gt5?

[Active Reload]

Nice try Chubear, but the fact of the matter is...Gears 3 is already pwning Gears 1 and 2 with a beta and dedicated servers. I don't totally understand using Gears as an example comparison for or with GT5, lol. I can really see and seperate the PS3 extremist from the PS3 fans. The ones commenting now are obviously the extremist because they're using excuses to sugar coat the short comings of GT5. But in all honesty this should be a learning lesson for fan boys on both sides. Don't hype these games to unsurmountable levels or the next dish on the menu will be crow.

[zootang]

@T9X

The bashing was aimed at the disagree's.

What is amazing, is the amount of hate this game is getting. When it does it's job pretty well with loads of features. We all knew there would only be 200 premium cars, which is more than most other games anyway. The other 800 cars are always welcome and should not be scolded in such a manor (who drives looking at the car anyway?).

[raztad]

@Nihilism

GT5 looks amazing, it has some graphical inconsistencies but the game looks incredible most of the time. Have you really watched/played the game in your TV?

Check Madrid circuit, London, SSR7. All of them look amazing. The car themselves are incredible (PREMIUMs that is), random weather conditions, smoke, dust, snow. There is a lot going on in the graphical dept, and on top of that real time damage.

GT5 might be flawed (standard cars, some low quality shadows and some upscaled tracks) but at is best is an incredible looking game.

[gamerdude132]

You do realize this site is dominated by PS3 fanboys, right? Last I checked, every article that said even the tiniest bit of GT5 would have a whole group of comments bashing on Forza.

Damn it, stop bashing Forza, stop bashing 360 exclusives, and 360 fanboys AND, at the same time...

Stop bashing GT5, stop bashing PS3 exclusives, and PS3 fanboys. This crap is unneeded on this site and when I'm trying to go here for my gaming news only to see some fanboy on either console ruin it with whichever console he loves, it ruins this site's appeal for me.

And both consoles have their hang-ups.
PS3:
Pros:: Free online service, blu-ray, hardware that has extreme capabilities
Cons:: Inferior online service, XMB is not as useful to navigate in while in a game as the Xbox button's mini-dashboard, Inferior online service (yet it's still free, so...)

360:
Pros:: Currently the best online service, more content to download on the XBLM, mini-dash is smooth and efficient
Cons:: Online costs money, DVDs??, fewer exclusives that simply don't stand up to the PS3 line-up.

Wii's too pathetic to have it's own section.

[Ju]

Wow. The green force is strong in this (these) article(s). - it sure is. 3 disagrees within a couple of minutes.

[LastDance]

ive got a mazda RX7 and skyline standard and they dont look like that at all.

They look good actually.

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

I own a copy of this game.

I will tell you that the images are 100% authentic because the standard cars have jaggies every where including the shadows. In fact even in the premium models the shadows are full of jaggies but the cars them selves are very good.

When you first play in Sunday Cup in A spec the first race courses look underwhelming, the only ones that look good are the continental tracks... Tokyo, Rome etc...

[Raf1k1]

As someone who's completely new to racing sims I kind of expected the standard cars to not look amazing in HD since they're from GT4 and didn't think anyone would care since it's a sim game. It's pretty obvious a lot of people on this site think that visuals are everything in a simulator.

For some reason I kind of console racing sim fans to be like PC racing sim fans who actually care more about the realism of the driving experience more than the way the cars look.

[hesido]

This is not an acceptable quality from GT. They shouldn't have been included, the really bad ones. I have the impression not all them are equally bad, but this also creates even more of a non uniform quality of the product..

They could include it through DLC if they got AT LEAST THE DAMN TEXTURES. Window transperancy through textures, un-flippin believable.

Just hire 1 god damn artist to at least re-amplify the textures, touch up the model here and there with the time left. Let's say the development time was 3 years. (People think the time spent on GT HD and prologue did not contribute to GT 5, they are wrong, but let's say 3 years.)

A single god damn artist could up-convert all those damn textures in 3 years, even touching up the base mesh here and there.

[UKdoaney]

they don't look that bad tbh i have quite a few standard cars and it's only noticeable cos of how good the premium cars look!

[JokesOnYou]

I sorta of knew this was going to happen when I read this awhile back:

http://n4g.com/news/549399/...

If only there was more complaining instead of blind loyalty defending this decision, attacking the website, or spending time hating on *another sim racer then perhaps the devs would have went for a more "quality over quantity" approach with the car lineup. Didn't Kaz himself say he would listen to the GT fans and cater to what they wanted?....If I'm not mistaken thats what lead to damage being put in. I know I'll get some hate but really you don't need 1000 cars anyway, especially if their just 40 variations of the same model. I mean who plays with all the cars anyway? Hell 100 more premiums and NO STANDARDS would of been better imo, yeah, yeah, I get it, then some would complain its not enough cars but honestly at least they'd all be highly detailed cars WITH a cockpit view instead of 80% of car roster looking like generic cars that just seem totally out of place in a blockbuster next gen title like GT5.

Anyways lets not forget most reviews love how the cars handle on the road and for a sim fan that means theres plenty to love about GT5.

[8thnightvolley]

hahah wow .. they make a ps2 no ps1 game and call it gt5 and ppl call it the best graphics.. looooool look how ugly that game looks..jesus

[georgeenoob]

InfectedDK,

Did you mention Forza 3? The game with better reviews than GT5 by a long shot and wasn't even in development for as long?

[specialguest]

Polyphony really dropped the ball when it comes to the standard cars. That's unacceptable for a company that prides on realism and perfection.

[SeanRL]

Can't argue with these. I'm disappointed and I'm really hoping these were just caused by bugs. If not, Polyphony needs to get a patch out now. If you can't make 1000+ cars look good, then there is no reason why you should attempt to put 1000+ cars in your game.

[gamingisnotacrime]

the standard cars in gt5 are GT4 models upscaled to HD. they look like sht, the lights are like stickers on the car. in gmae racing with these standard cars looks like sht too. dont hide it fanboys, most of gt5 car catalogue looks like sht

[GrandTheftZamboni]

I don't have the game but I have a feeling this is like those few large pixels found on the back of Big Daddy in first PS3 Bioshock.

I pity the fool who took these photos: looking for ugly in a beautiful game.

[Redrum059]

its a psp port

premium / standard / psp port

ppl need to wake up

[mp1289]

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[InfectedDK]

Lol wow some long comments..
Don't even wanna read 'em.

However over 100 people disagree on playing this wonderful game because their mom only gave them a 360.

[Dee_91]

only a hand full look very bad
the site not working for me so i dont know what it is .. if its that picture for the article then its way fake ...

all you have fun arguing and calling each other fanboys
while im puttin hours into this game
It might have been over hyped for some sites
but for the fans of gt
it lived up to it hype minus all the nitpicking
and online is a blast
very simple too

[ShinMaster]

How convinient. Good for you guys.
/s

[Hideo_Kojima]

Some of you guys are just so gullible its making me sick...
You will believe anything you want to to justify the fact that you can't have GT5

Of course those are not GT5 standard car screenshots what are you insane?

They are PSP ports

[zeddy]

yes they're ugly but would you prefer then not to be there? and the uglyness varies car to car.

[BYE]

They shouldn't be in the game, not only they're ugly, you can't use cockpit view which makes them useless.

[ct03]

Quality tops quantity.

[retrofly]

I would prefer them not to be there, put it this way I bought a brand new s2000 over a used one, i couldnt bring myself to drive a shoddy perted one with no cockpit view. I bought GT5 for GT5, not GT4 ported cars!

[stevenhiggster]

Most of them are butt ugly, and tbh although they are just as good to drive I'm starting to think that they shouldn't have been included in the game, they are its biggest weakness without a doubt. And if they hadn't spent time (though not much by the look of it) giving the standard cars a lick of HD paint then the time could have been better spent giving us another hundred or so premium cars.
Don't get me wrong, I love the game, check my comment history I am a big defender of GT5 but the standard cars look crap end of.

[N4WAH]

Then why is NFS:HP rated high and doing well?
It doesn't have cockpit views at all. Nor does it have manual shifting or wheel support.

Oh man why is it all I hear is how this site is over run with and controlled by PS3 fanboys yet any member that says one positive thing about GT5 is averaging a 5 to 1 disagree to agree ratio?

GT5 is an excellent racing game.
The best yet for FFB wheels.

Is it perfect? HELL NO!
Am I enjoying it immensely (which is all that matters)? HELL YES!

Go back to hating haters and I am headed back to play one of the best sim games I have ever owned "on a console".

[8thnightvolley]

this is soooo unacceptable from gt5 6 GADDAMN years... and u cant even get those cars to have inside not even that the outsides are bad but THAT BAD!!.. ps2 level no ps1. from the selling point on gt5 and how high end it is and the MR PERFECTION that was said to produce the game this is a SHAME. gt5 was touted to be the best looking game with all cars out of this world and so realistic.. YA RIGHT!!

[frostypants]

Lemme get this straight:

PD included GT4 and you can import PSP cars as a bonus. No one is MAKING you use them.

And you people are bitching about it?

Holy sh*t. Grow the f*ck up.

[Rush]

I would rather have 20 more premium cars then 800 standard cars.

[Dee_91]

@Rush  
thats bull
it would have to be atleast another 120 premiums because not all standards look bad
il admit there are a few that shouldve stayed out
i only saw 2 standards so far that are butt ugly out of the 20 or so ive seen in all

[Mr Marbles]

Well I can guarantee the real version of the car doesn't have all those jaggies.

[SIX]

You know what? I'm as big a Supporter of Sony as they come, but if there are problems this big for such a huge game. I would want people to point them out. How is turning a blind eye going to make games better? PD will fix this I have confidence.

[gamer8179]

cobpswii3600

Wow nice comeback. The fact of the matter is that I still play halo reach all the time. I am also playing black ops on the 360(you know the version that has better graphics and less problems than the ps3).

[HDgamer]

How is the ps3 version have problems when you don't own it? Your logic and reasoning is childish.

[Dee_91]

@ SIX only a small few standards are terrible
all the ones i race against look fairly decent
like the prowler look like a premium

[Akagi]

Seriously, the standard cars are a BONUS, the premium cars are the real meat and potatoes. But you know, whatever, just be an ignorant troll.

P.S: You can turn on AA via the options. Again, just plain ignorance.

[Braxens]

So you're ok calling 20% of the game's cars the meat and potatoes and the rest of the 80% a bonus? Ok

[Akagi]

They are called PREMIUM, they feature damage, higher polygon count models, they have cockpit camera. Yes, I would.

[stevenhiggster]

If only that were true, most of the early races kinda force you to use standard cars, and most of the AI racers are in them. They're not a bonus, they're a big mistake is what they are. I originally defended the standard cars being there, but now that I've seen how crap they look, they shouldn't have been included at all. Quality not quantity.

[Ju]

Well, if 20% of those cars is more than what 90% of other games deliver today, than yes, the remaining 80% are a bonus.

Would I want 100% premium cars? I sure would. But putting the game down because you get additional content is a joke.

It does what it does in its core what no other game does. That is what makes Grand Toursimo. Always did, and that's what makes the game, not the imported PS2/PSP car models.

[Ju]

W/e makes you happy. I personally think, GT5 should be more. Quite true. I still feel it plays like a HD version of GT4. So, there you have it. I think it should be more. Even that is true.

But, still, there is no other racing game which achieves what GT5 does in what defines this games. This is the realism how cars handle. The achievement in areas like the premium cars etc.

And what I said is, considering, those achievements are only reached with 20% of what GT5 is - even those 20% in scope are more than most (if not all) other racing games deliver today.

Not a single one has 200 cars on the level of GT5. Not a single one has race tracks mapped down to the bumps you find in the real world track. You can actually feel your car react to those.

GT5 is meant to be a "driving" simulation. That is, why these cars are included. Nobody would want to drive one of those standard cars in a race. But if you want to experience how they feel, there you go. You can.

I would suggest PD dropping 1080p all together, tbh. Use all the power you have to improve 720p visuals and effects (yes, I see those shadow - they can be fixed). And I am upset, that after 5 years PD could not brush up those standard cars. I also think, holding on to 1080 was to keep their face when they starting boosting they can when they released Prolog. Dropping down was unthinkable after.

But the rant what people have here against the game mostly comes from those who don't even have the game. Speaking of fanboys (you). And for the record, I did never see GT5 as the second coming of Christ. I even personally believe - for my taste - NFS:Shift is a great game; for what it is. And, yet, I have both. Dirt3 will be next, and the new NFS is on my list, and so is Shift2 next year.

[specialguest]

One of the key selling points and what made GT5 enticing was the 1000 cars the game boasted. The kart racing could be considered a bonus, but not the cars. GT5 is reputably known for having a wide selections of cars, and some of these standard cars looked worse than GT4 due to being upscaled.

[DigitalAnalog]

That this could be the cars that are:

TRANSFERED FROM THE PSP DEVICE!

I heard the quality is horrendous though. I just got a standard car from a dealership and in NO WAY did it look like that whatsoever.

-End of Line

[stevenhiggster]

A lot of them don't look as bad as the one they're showing but they do still look rubbish and it detracts from the rest of the otherwise awesome game. I doubt PD will ever be doing that again.

[DigitalAnalog]

These are PSP cars that are forcefully "upscaled"? These aren't the "official" standard cars, so why should they criticized for doing so? This is like saying "OH THE PS3 plays DVD's but it only upscales to 1080p and not native like Blu-Ray, PS3 is rubbish they should drop the DVD BC support".

Extras are extras, and bonus features are bonus. There are cars on PSP that doesn't exist on GT5 so at least you can experience them right there on your PS3 if you like to see it run on GT5!

-End of line

[hesido]

@DigitalAnalog: even if I KNEW that they were transferred from PSP, I *certainly* wouldn't complain if cars mentioned here did not look like a pixelated mess.

Don't get me wrong, they'd still look real nice in a low resolution environment, I wouldn't call them a pixelated mess on a GT4 screenshot, they surely looked nice. But now, they look *out of place* on a 1080p / 720p backdrop.

Let's say you have a really nice technology that will take Humphrey Bogart from a scene in Casablanca, and put him into a scene in a today's movie and want him not to stand out, natural and in place. Would you keep him B/W?

[Noble Spartan]

do i see ps2 graphics?

[BloodyNapkin]

No you see PSP graphics, it is a car transfer from the PSP.

[WAWA]

Damn looks like the original GT on the PS1, but probably they're saving the pictures in MS paint and posting them on the net..Too much GT5 hate I see, really unfair, premium cars deserve the 60 bucks alone

[LastDance]

This looks like a PSP screen shot..This website has been digging at GT since its release.

[vhero]

Standard cars are pretty on the level of premium just without the extra details. Dunno where these pics came from but they are doctored in some way As I drive standard cars all the time and they look lovely in 1080p on my 42" Plasma. In fact I choose standard mostly over premium as I don't wanna damage premium cars.

[PR0X1]

LOL hahahahhaha common son.

http://img194.imageshack.us...

[avengers1978]

could be being played on shitty television, I know this I played the game and it looks pretty damn amazing, and almost real at times. I am not into hardcore driving sims so I won't buy it but it looks far better than any other racing game.

[popup]

Let's hope a patch comes out and takes them all out. Then you can look at 200 cars and drive 200 cars instead of look at 200 cars and drive 1000.

/s

This 'comments section' is one epic fail of embarrassing children playing playground games.

[BloodyNapkin]

So we are going to nitpick on cars that transfer over from the PSP, umm ok.

@PR0X1

Awesome keep posting those PSP screens....

[thesummerofgeorge]

Woow, the venom and trolling towards GT5 is absolutely out of control. NO other game would get this much shit, and the irony is PD never hyped this game in the slightest and don't deserve this unfair smear campaign, they simply kept to themselves and made an incredible game. The gaming media, if you could even call it that, were the ones who hyped the shit out of it in order to gain hits, and now they bash them for not living up to an impossible standard. It's a fucking video game, and a bloody impressive one at that. You review the games, not the inherent flaws. Fuckin childish trolls. Get a life.

Edit: I can't help but notice the disagree/debubbling fairies are running rampant here. It seems as if they've been planning this day for some time. Idn'it sad?

[The Lazy One]

"NO other game would get this much shit"

no other game on the PS3 maybe. Every game on the 360 gets this much.

[ILiveUnderABridge]

I knew PD would drop the ball on this one, those 5 years were put to great use boys!

[xYLeinen]

You get freaking 1000 cars in GT5. How polished do you except each and every car is going to be?!?

This is beyond ridiculous.

[T9X69]

By the looks of it, only 200. I don't understand the point of adding cars just to have them when 80% look like crap and 20% look amazing. Having only the premium cars on track can make a beautiful looking race, but going half and half really make the 80% look like PS2 cars. Biggest part of GT is the cars, so why make crappy ones to begin just to up the count? Quality over quantity is the biggest response I seen on this site, so that should come in effect even with GT5.

[LastDance]

by the looks of it? PLAY THE FRIKKING game first.

I cant believe the absolute nonsense coming up from these idiotic sites.

I own a sony BRAVIA x series 46" tv and have been driving standard cars all day.

they look really good.

that screen shot looks like a psp GT car.

It makes me sick how hard 360 fanboys want this to fail.

[insomnium2]

Show us T9 that all the 800 standard cars look like crap. I dare you. I seriously think something bad should happen to you when you spread fud like this. "by the looks of it"? I hate people like you. Show us all the 800 fugly cars and then and only then you can claim such a thing.

[hesido]

Last Dance:
As a GT fan, I find this lack of quality unacceptable.

Suddenly, graphics are not important. Last time I checked, people were bragging about 1080p support, which I think is not needed, partly because I don't have a full HD TV, but I can still appreciate a Bluray movie all right.

I'd rather have the game 720p, without these ugly cars. And less billboard trees. The processing power doesn't fall from the "trees", surely, they could have shot for more enviromental detail at 720p.

[Eamon]

hesido, it's because most of the people here are not GT fans but Sony fanboys. Their aim is not to appreciate gaming in general but to defend Sony as though it's World War 2.

The same thing happened to Final Fantasy XIII. That is, until it was announced as multiplatform.

[Mr Marbles]

They went for quantity over quality, period. To be fair I think that was Sony who pushed Poly to do that, Sony only cares about bragging rights and PS3 numbers being bigger than 360 numbers.

Quality and actual performance is secondary for Sony, just like PS3, looks better on paper than 360, but in real life, 360 is the better gaming machine.

Same here, GT5 looks better on paper, and sounds good in reviews to be able to say 1031 cars, in real life it is a sloppy mess compared to Forza 3.

[insomnium2]

Are you people seeing the disagree to agree ratio on this comment? I dare someone to say this site is run by PS3-fanboys with a straight face.

[hesido]

Well, that is too 360 fanboyish indeed.

[BARF]

this sight is run by ps3 fanboys. now are you happy??? this is just an example of karma and now all the little ps3 kiddies cant handle it. for the last year almost every article on this site had someone mentioning in the comments how gt5 would be the next coming of christ, even when the article had nothing to do with gt5 or ps3. the ps3 fanboys just seem to be hiding a little more or playing the spin game (which they are used to), because they all feel a little dumb now.

you are getting what you deserve, now take your crow and eat it.

[insomnium2]

@ barf

Ummmm... I was here like 4-5 years ago. Are you trying to tell me how things went?

I havn't told anyone GT5 is like the second coming of crist since I don't believe in him.

Anyway first you should figure out how things went over here during the first 3 years after the launch of PS3. Then you come back and tell me all the same things you just said. OK....GO!

edit: Oh yeah and you will not "beat me" by getting the last word in this. You only get it cause I'm outta bubbles.

[stevenhiggster]

I'm with you there insomnium, it makes me laugh when the 360 fanboys rant about how n4g is run by ps3 fanboys. And don't give us that crap about karma, if any of you used this site in 2007-09 then you would know that ps3 used to be a swear word around here. What goes around comes around though.

[alb1899]

Well after 6 longs years it should be well polished if not what were they doing all this time?

[SkylineR]

Adding unnecessary 3D support to make Sony happy.

Personally I was really looking forward to GT5 but 6 or so years in development doesn't show in the final product. The premium cars look fantastic and so do the new tracks with weather effects, but the rest (80%+ of the game) looks like an HD remaster of GT4 C'mon Polyphony! What HAVE you been doing for the past few years?
They should've concentrated on making more premium cars but in a lesser volume. Would be much better than giving us generic cars.

[BYE]

It's only 200 cars actually.

PD was like "Let's add some cars from our last game just to be able to advertise 1000 cars".

[hesido]

If only a few cars are this bad, this confirms for their quantity over quality ambition. They could say 1000! THOUSAND, I tell you. Not 970.. THOUSAND.

[bennyace]

Ok now it doesn't seem to matter if only 200 cars look good!. When it was said that it had over 1000 cars. Every PS3 supporters were like, "That's double the amount of Forza" or "GT5 is going to show how a real car sim is made". Now everybody's on damage controle since GT5 doesn't deliver. Just the fact that there's more people agreeing with anti-GT comments shows that even the GT5 supporters can't defend the game they waited so long to get! I guess that's why when we saw footage, it was always from the 200 premium cars or in replay mode. This is false advertisement and these things should be critisized wether you're a PS3 fan or not.

I tried it (GT5) and tbh after playing both Forza games on the 360, there's nothing in GT5 that gets me excited to play it. I can understand that someone who hasn't played Forza can be excited about GT5. But I guess that's what you get when you stick to ONE console and defend it to your death! LOL. I'm just glad I rented it and I'm canceling my reserved copy for sure.

I think I've had enough of car sims for now. And when I played GT5 2days ago it felt the same as playing Forza but with more jaggies. No way I'm paying 60$ for a game that looks and plays like Forza. Well at least 20% of the game looks and plays like it!

A good day to everyone ...

[KotC]

"How polished do you except each and every car is going to be?!?" All of them should have the same detail. Blu-ray has the space and after 5 years this is unacceptable.

[Zir0]

They should have just left out the standard cars, sure there would be less cars but the game would seem much higher quality. Reviews would likely increase from the 7/8s to more 9s.

[Sunny_D]

I think it would have been better to make 500 premium cars than to make only 200 premiums and 800 standards. But, I think with DLC support to come, we might get more and more premiums and maybe an update to turn all standards to dare I say it... Premium??? One can dream right?

[raztad]

I cant help but disagree.

Used cars dont look bad in motion and they are mostly optional, they are there (in a separated room) if you even feel nostalgic or need a really cheap car. It's a shame those rehashed articles posting the same already posted pictures keep poping. Why nothing is said about the incredible detailed premium? that would an article worth a hit.

@sunny

Premium cars take too much time to model. I'm guessing 230 was the highest number PD could reach. To me standard cars were an afterthough, something PD didnt put enough time into because they were mostly focused on PREMIUM. To ask for 500 (=2x the current amount of Premiums) is unrealistic. I think make more sense, to ask for Forza 3 quality cars, PD could have made 1000 of those.

[Nightfallen]

Aren't all standard cars taken from GT4 with a little extra polish?

[Nightfallen]

The article.

http://www.playstationunive...

[NaiNaiNai]

really.

Thats just BS.
This game can completely piss off

[Mr Marbles]

NO not all of them, a few are original to this gen, they just still look like poo.

[vhero]

Not all as there are more standard cars 800+ compared to the 750 in GT4.

[blakstarz]

wow...the hate for this game succeeding is STRONG!!

[The Maxx]

You think missing features, poor graphics on 800 of the 1000 cars, poor AI would make GT5 a success if nobody pointed them out?

LOL the desperation and anger of you Sony Loyalists just make me laugh.

[muzikjunkie80]

@LastDance

whats the 360 got to do with this?

if i remember correctly pd said they were pushing for perfection. so dont take it out on microsoft or the xbox coz pd messed up.

and dont go hating on forza 3 either, it might no look as good but atleast it plays and feels almost flawless.

[irepbtown]

PD messed up?

Please play the game.

[muzikjunkie80]

irepbtown

i will be playing the game once i buy it.

yeah pd messed up or is the game as perfect as they said it would be???

[gamer8179]

just like the hate for halo reach and every call of duty game.

[Eamon]

well there was no hate for Halo Reach by the 360 owners.
And COD is a blatantly milked franchise, so I understand the hate.

However, for GT5, many loyal GT fans are expressing huge disappointment. Makes you wonder what PD were doing for 6 years?

[ian72]

I've noticed the standard cars aren't as nice looking but they are better than those pictures make out. Those photo's make standard cars look twice as bad as they really are. They look way nicer on my HDTV.

[uso]

That's fake. If you loke close you can see that the whole image is jagged.

[NaiNaiNai]

everything is jaggy but the rims. hmmmm.

[uso]

I have the game, and i been playing it seense the 19 of November and can´t find a car that look´s that bad.

Sorry if i don´t agree with this sh!t

[NBT91]

It's not that bad, what a bunch of over analysing nerds

[perfectCarbonara]

I don't understand what happened here, it's so un-yamauchi like. Why settle for this ? would he have given us a million cars and made 80 percent of them look like early PS1 graphics ? Whats the point ?

All you're doing really is making us look at a lot of ugly cars, right ?

Why not keep it at 400-500 cars and make them all look mint. I can't fight this feeling of disappointment.

Tons of bad decisions made in 5 years IMO.

Not bashing the game, I'm the biggest PS3 fanboy here but I just don't get it.

NFS: Hot Pursuit is looking to be my racing game for this year and I couldn't be more surprised.

[irepbtown]

Play the game before writing bullshit.

You obviously haven't played the game. So i suggest either playing the game, or just dont bother writing a load of bullshit.

[DNAbro]

Ever heard of opinions?

[irepbtown]

'80% of them look like early PS1 graphics'

Thats why you need to play the damn game. You obviously looked at this pic and thought standard cars look like this, NON of them do.

[Eamon]

Can you teach me how to read minds too?

[WetN00dle69]

WOW, that does indeed look ugly.
Great game though, played it over at my friends house.

[Mr Marbles]

I agree, I played it at someone elses house too, its fun to monkey around in for a while, so many options and so much to see and do. But when I felt like cutting to the chase and playing a sim racer, I felt like putting down GT5 and firing up Forza 3.

GT5 is kind of a mess to get around in and get anything done, and that music makes me want to chew my own ears off.

[soundslike]

"I played it at someone elses house"

sorry that really doesn't count.

[alb1899]

I'm starting to see that 485 cars of forza have better value than 1000 of GT5.

This year belongs to Need for Speed for me!

[soundslike]

They don't look like that when you're racing. I could take some screenshots of some standard cars and post them up with the caption "unfortunately all standard cars don't look as good as this premium car" and people wouldn't be able to tell I was lying.

It makes a huge difference when you're in 3rd person mode and the ridiculous amount of shaders come into play from the sun and lights and what not.

[clintos59]

Just got back from buying a new laptop from best buy black friday & damn it was so packed. As I waited 2 hours in line to grab my new labtop I asked one of the workers there or did they have any copies of GT5 left & he said all the copies they had & bundles were all sold out. Another crazy thing I noticed was how many people were buying 42 & 46 inch LCD's & Bluray Movies. Damn I cant believe everything GT5 was gone. No matter how bias the media is with GT5 reviews, its not stopping this beast from selling out.

[Neckbear]

You didn't work on the game. You ain't getting any of the money they're getting.

In fact, you're probably buying their product. So, why do you care about sales?

[clintos59]

Wait so u blaming me for bringing up sales when 360 fanboys always bring up how the 360 is leading the ps3 in sales? Sales was never anything sony & nintendo fans bragged about until xbox fanboys existed. I could give a crap about sales eithe but since alot of u are trying to make it seem like GT5 is a complete failure because of standard car nonsense your doing the same thing reviewers are doing and nitpicking the hell out of it despite all the good things that GT5 has to offer. Even with the flaws it has which every game has, with all the features and content u get from this game totally is mind boggling and puts even forza 3 to shame in everything u get in one package deal. A good comparison of GT5 & Forza 3 is like comparing MGS4 to SCC. MGS4=GT5 not perfect & has its flaws but brings alot of features & content & a great story. SCC=Forza3 not perfect & has its flaws brings a few features & content but an ok story. I compare the standard cars to MGS4 long cutscenes which 360 fanboys made fun of then & now.

[Marquis_de_Sade]

Clintos, how on earth can you make a comparison between the average looking standard cars in GT5 to the breathtaking cut scenes in MGS4?

[Marquis_de_Sade]

I'm not American, so correct me if wrong, but isn't today one of the biggest shopping days of the year over there?

[Psychic_Waffle]

You are correct. It's called Black Friday.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

When something goes on sale today, it's gone within 10 seconds, if even that (according to a friend of mine who was working at the time).

[NexGen]

You're right. It is supposedly our biggest shopping day of the year where stores have great deals starting as early as 4 am. Most of the deals are in low supply though, but crowds are attracted, with some people camping out overnight to get these deals.

Just about every year we hear new stories of someone getting trampled to death when the doors open and people stampede in.

[SMW]

I was just bashing up a standard model racing mod civic. They look way better than this. Even the damage isnt bad.

For the fanboys, GT5 = Forza 3

They just both excell in different areas.

[GMWPS3]

Just to balance things a bit (ying and yang) check out these AMAZING pictures of GT5 on the following site:
http://www.gtplanet.net/for...

http://www.gtplanet.net/for...

Some pics are from photo mode some are right off the replays!!! :-)

[kasasensei]

You're doing it right.

[cliffbo]

trolling you`re doing it wrong! lol

[Eamon]

Actually, it's relieving to see those pics after going through this hate thread lol.

Although, you can't blame those hardcore GT fans for getting very disappointed.

Reminds me of when FF13 came out.

[Angainor7]

and this is better than Forza 3... get rid of yourselves ps3 fanboys... GT5 sucks for a 5+ years of development. end of story. however you can pretend that this is the best racing game of all time. so enjoy it... have fun with the best racing experience to date... Only On PS3... ahahahahahahahahahahahahs!!!!! !! xD

[RacingLightning01]

It looks like some one Photoshopped a Gran Turismo 3 car over top a GT5 car. Anyone else notice the wheels have no jaggies?

Just another arctical trying to crap on someone else's parade.

[joeorc]

wow...i wonder just imported 800 GT4 car's with, what increased graphic's, increased physic's for each model, increased lighting..and yet people are still complaining...wow

Complainstation it is it seems

I wish both Sony and Microsoft submit both forza 3 and GT5 to

car an driver

for a review to see which simulator wins out as the most accurate simulator..i think you know the answer to that would be.

[feedurhabit]

......what?!

[AwesomeJizz]

HAHA wtf learn english

[Big_Dom]

I think you, and most other people who are defending this, are missing the point just a smidgen. The whole point of GT5 is accuracy. It's a car sim for car fanatics. Even if it were just 100 cars in the game that had this kind of neglect, then it would still be a disappointment due to the fact that there will be some people out there who are fans of those particular models that just looks so poor in comparison to other cars that got the current gen treatment. Now, if it's true that there are 800 ported cars in the game that are basically just high res variants of a PS2 game, then that is shockingly disgraceful and disrespectful to the faithful of this brilliant franchise. There is no excuse for it, especially after all the ridiculous amounts of slaps in the face that came in the form of delays after delays, leading the game into a almost farcical 5 years of development. If any more proof is needed that the Japanese industry is struggling, then franchises like GT5, PES, and Resident Evil are evident of it, albeit at least Capcom has the visual aspect nailed, it's everything else that's lacking from them when it comes to their big guns.

[nilamo]

This entire gt5 drama is soo much entertainment for me to enjoy. Keep up the good work n4g.

[antz1104]

Well said

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

The complaints aren't just coming from N4G, they're coming from people who own the game all over the net. I'm going to list what I want fixed since Kaz said he'll listen to the fans:

1)The impact of hitting a wall or car is non-existent so it needs fixing.
2)The environments look really really bad, and something needs to be done about the trees.
3)Increase the detail on the standard cars.
4)Fix the jaggies because they are very noticeable during gameplay.
5)Rain droplets don't seem to land on the exterior of car and it looks as though the car was never touched by rain, so please make that happen even with snow.
6)The driver never does a full 900* animation of the wheel which is very unrealistic, so please fix that, I know you tried it the first time but try again with a better designed animation.
7)If you can do more than just increasing the detail on standard cars then start modelling all 800 standard cars in to premium models.

These are my major complaints so far, I haven't tested out the online yet so I'll just leave it at that.

[Yangus]

Amazing car!

This GBA?

[NewsForMe]

The game is just an inconsistent mess. It shines unmatched in some areas and is just plain sad in others. It seems like they were just trying to do way too much with this game. Had they focused more on less they could have done so much more.

Edit: Having played it for hours at a friends house it will still be purchased at the same time I eventually buy a PS3.

[likedamaster]

The ps3 fangirls brought this upon themselves.

Edit:

"IGN scored Gran Turismo a very fitting and great 8.5 – but, like several games on this list, we question if six years of waiting for a less-than-excellent game is really worth it. Are we disappointed? Youbetcha. But would we be willing to wait another year for that extra polish? Heck no. At least it's finally out, right?"

lulz

[ArcFatalix]

bought what? game rocks, standard models suck so what, go play it before opening your mouth

[Silly gameAr]

The PS3 fangirls that bought the game unlike yourself couldn't give a sh** what you or any other troll thinks.

It's funny seeing you guys try to talk s*** about GT5 like what you say matters though.

Keep it up.

[Braxens]

I'm sure alot of people cared what you had to say in kinect articles though right?

[Silly gameAr]

Yeah, sorry. I didn't linger around Kinect articles too much. I did pop my head in to say how full of s*** MS was about the hacking thing.

Other than that, Kinect is what it is. I'm sorry that you feel the need to bring up something I did to justify the constant trolling Of GT5 though.

I don't even think PS3 fanboys were this bad when Halo Reach dropped. Then again, I wouldn't know because I stayed away from Halo articles.

[likedamaster]

"Keep it up."

Oh, I most certainly will, because...

your tears are my enjoyment. ;)

[likedamaster]

Oh, and another thing. According to metacritic...

NFS:Hot Pursuit > GT5

lmao

[Silly gameAr]

What's metacritic? Sorry, I'm to busy to check meaningless junk sites. Could you explain it to me?

[blakstarz]

@ The Maxx

So I guess you must of played it then......

[The Maxx]

I have it on pre-order and had planned to pick it up tomorrow.

I however believe in reading reviews and peoples opinions before I drop money down on something that could possible be not worth it.

So far, from all the evidence I have read about poor AI, the graphics between standard and premium cars, I have decided to not purchase this game for the time being. I will wait and see what Kaz does with the DLC and update/patches. By then the brice should have dropped.

As of right now, I am greatly disappointed in GT5. For a game that his been in development for over 5 years and hear from EVERY SONY LOYALIST just how great GT5 will be GT5 is not measuring up to games that are currently on the market. This is Sony's #1 Flagship franchise and you think this is the best iteration of that franchise?

No I have not played it yet, and I won't waste my money on inferior products when for a cheaper price, a better game is out there. When the game is properly patched to what it should have been on release day, then I will reconsider my position on GT5. Until then, I stand greatly disappointed in GT5.

[Blitzed]

You do realize people can se your comment history right?

[memots]

Wow dude reading some of your comment, you have been trolling every Gt5 article for the pass couple of days.

Keep bringing up forza and Alan wake in you comment. I am fairly certain you don't even have a ps3.

Pretty Sad.

[CernaML]

Lol Wow. I have never seen so much hate and desperation just to downplay a huge franchise. I've been playing for hours with standard cars and they look great. Really shows what amazing things they were able to pull of in the ps2. The only problem I have with this game graphically are the shadows. Not sure what hapenned considered theyh looked pretty good on prologue. But whatever. Everything else is superb and unmatched.

Gaming media is still the biggest joke. I don't see why rushed POS games like the COD games get free passes while real quality rigt here gets torn to pieces. If we don't see this kind of hate happen for DNF then it'll be obvious that something is clearly wrong with this industry. I wouldn't be surprised if there were countless articles trying to explain how the 360 version is somehow superior.

[ZombieAssassin]

Don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist but everyone needs to understand Ps3 exclusives are judged differently than everything else, could be because everyone expects them to be totally mind blowing, could be because it's Sony and they aren't on top anymore so everyone wants to give them crap...either way the media is stupid and you're right they give free passes to games like CoD that haven't really done anything different or pushed the bar in many years.

[ZombieAssassin]

FINALLY got a chance to play the game, and while the standard cars pale in comparison to the premium they aren't that bad (not really bad at all just not what everyone was expecting).

I agree with most and would of preferred more premium cars and less standard but I guess we can hope for DLC or a free patch that touches up a majority of the standard.

I personally only really planned on using premium cars anyways so I guess it's not such a big deal for me. As a GT fan I am somewhat disappointed by the fact that not all cars are of the same quality even among the standard cars, it seems like some have more detail and polish than others...which I guess is why you get some pictures where the standard cars look pretty decent and others where they look like this.

Lets just hope we get GT6 this gen with at least 400+ more premium cars and more tracks with weahter and day/night.

I just remembered reading a day or 2 ago that they also plan on patching standard cars to premium in the future so i guess we'll prolly have at least 50 more premium cars before they are done supporting the game (maybe even new ones as paid DLC).

[Rattlehead20]

I must say they are awful..

Im only interested in the premiums anyway. Win-win situation for me.

[imt558]

Yes, some standard cars are ugly. But some standard cars are beautiful. Check the Veyron or Corvette C5R or Renault Megane or Honda Accord...

[loeb80]

PSP version........

[Ju]

I finally get it why we get so many disagrees here. No PS3 fanboys left. They are busy playing GT5. Rest is 360 fan turds with nothing to play. LOL.

[mitsuhede]

@Ju Lol I kinda noticed people getting thumbed down for saying good things about this game GT5 also. 360 fanboys have been patrolling these articles xD, because I guess they have nothing better to do lol. Anyways back to gt5.

[Omega Zues]

But i'm gonna play while they have nothing.

[blodulv]

I'm not a huge racing fan... but any urge to go and buy GT5 is now completely out of the question. The total imbalance between "premium" and "normal" cars would absolutely ruin the experience for me.

Just an outsiders perspective as a potential purchaser. Didn't buy Forza either.

[Omega Zues]

I respect your opinion but honestly over all its a really solid game. Its one of those few games thats truly worth your hard earned dollars just because your going to easily put in over a hundred hours on this game. Theres just so much to do that it quickly becomes addicting.

[George Sears]

This looks down right atrocious and I really don't see why PD even bothered adding cars that have such low PS2 textures. They really did a bad job trying to add so many cars. I always saw these devs as quality before quantity but they really did a fucked up job this time around.

[Der_Kommandant]

Two Words...

Adobe Photoshop

[fight4love]

ewww. i'm disapoint

[Funky Town_TX]

Here is my list:

1. It's a direct port from the xbox360
2. DVD 9 limited what PD wanted to do.
3. It's a launch title.
4. This is PD's first ever game on a Sony console.
5. They need more Dev time.
6. This is still the beta.

Move on fangirls it's time to look for your next savior in the form of a video game. It's only a game guys. Lets stop with the Gt5 photo articles now.

[Vip3r]

Some lower end cars have got less detail than the higher end ones. Just a shame they also don't have a viewable interior like the higher end cars do too.

[guigsy]

Wow, porting car models for GT4, what the hell have they been doing all this time?

[Funky Town_TX]

They made $40 million from Gt5P, there was now need to bust a$$ after charging for a demo/beta testing.

[sher00win99]

i think this is fake or maybe this is from gt4 on ps2 because i notice the road texture also bad...

[hoops]

The Premium cars look AMAZING. Forza cannot compete with those.
Stunning. Fantastic car models.

Now the rest of the cars look mediocre to the point of laughing. If you have the game you will know this right off.
I say this because when you look at the premium cars, then go back to the other cars, its like stepping back in time.
Sorry it's true and no amount of damage control or putting your head in the sand will hide this fact.
This is why the game is getting low graphic scores.
It's VERY inconsistent. It just is.
This also applies to the environments.
Now being N4G.COM I will get 500 disagrees for stating the truth.

[wissam]

No. good sire. I thank you for informing me. cause I don't have
the game yet.

[gamingisnotacrime]

the first races where all cars are standard and low end, all look like sht. if they look so bad it would be better to not have them at all. this game is inconsistent all around, i like it anyway but truth is truth

[TheLastGuardian]

cut polyphony some slack. They put their heart and soul into this game. Were you honestly expecting them to put the same amount of polish into all cars? I'm sure standard cars don't look that bad.

[DAS692]

These pictures are edited by some idiot. He put a freaking noise filter on that section and called it a day...

[Beahmscream]

That is just ugly. Yeah I said it

[Duxer]

This is what standard cars really look like:
http://i52.tinypic.com/ra7q...

They are very beautiful. (This is my ingame pic so I know.)
You can even see the driver inside the standard cars.

[blodulv]

That looks like it could be any car driving around in Mafia II or GTA 4 with maybe a tad bit of exaggeration.

[Duxer]

I just wanted to point out that it's not as bad as the thread implies.

[Duxer]

Why the disagrees? (You know it looks great) ;)
Here's another one:
http://i53.tinypic.com/rkn1...

[Arup02]

This is ugly as hell, y'know, quantity isn't always quality. And this is the ultimate proof.

[juggulator]

Pretty confusing. The only car that looks horrible is the white hatchback, the rest of the cars look like standard cars. That Scion is likely as psp port. It's true that there are some ugly cars in GT5 but there's only a few of those plus PD could fix them with a patch update if they choose to.

[RedGr3mlin]

Sry my bad english!!!

I am a ps3 / pc owner and Its just sad to see so many xbox360 fanboys(in this case) downtalking a ps3 game, dont take me wrong, you ps3 fanboys will get your share to.

Let me ask you some questions:

1. Why are you even in this thread if you dont own a ps3 and gt5?
2. Why are you talking shit abut a game that you havent even playd?
3. I thought Gt was about GAMEPLAY more the gfx?
4. So do i get you 12 year old girls and boys correct if i say:

AND PS3 FANBOYS! ASK YOURSELF THESE EXACT QUESTIONS TO!

That you are in this thread to look at these pics and talk shit because you have APSOLUTLY nothing else to do? Or are you just crying and try to take revenge on ps3 fans that have been downtalking gears of war 2 and so on?

This site is just geting sader and sader, and yea disagree how much you want, take my bubbles cause you know what?

I dont give a shit about it.
Now i go back to gt5 and play the best racing game IMO there is.

And you can stay in this thread and dislike and hate and do what you do every day against ps3 games and 360 games all you want.

Oh btw: Fuck this site, fuck these threads, fuck the 360 fanboys, fuck the ps3 fanboys.

If you have something to say plz do me a favour and shut the FUCK up and keep your little stinkin hole shut, thank you.

oh and 360 / ps3 FANBOYS! I spit in your direction. Your a disgrase to the gaming industry.

[antz1104]

A little extreme, but I agree. Its sad that CONSOLES have split gamers right down the middle and there's so much hate in a thread over pixels and res.

As someone that is planning on getting a PS3 this holiday though, GT5 was going to be one of my first purchases and the articles and comments alike help me weigh in if its worth all the hype. Please do a favor and keep speaking your mind, there's not enough of that here for fear of losing bubbles to fanboys on both sides.

[PWNER]

Guys! It's actually Kevin Butler's fault! PD was only going to make around 500 'Premium' cars, but Kevin Told them to make 1000 cars. At the time they had just finished making 200 cars, and decided to dedicate the rest of their time to importing the 'Standard' Cars.

[kingslayer1000]

is up in arms, i guess they got nothing to play

[CombineElite]

I wanna give Polyphony Studios a standing ovation on their ambitious development goals on GT5.

1000 cars
real time damage
weather
all the famous tracks
realistic sounds
racing physics plus a few other things

Sure are their some problems with GT5, unfortunately yes but this time it's not the developers fault but the fault that they simply ran out of room due to the PS3 limitations, and before 360 fanboys say anything first ask yourself is there a game of GT5 MAGNITUDE on your console, NO.

GT5 will never see the PC but Polyphony Studios is an ambitious developer that needs to make a PC game so they can work without limitations.
Polyphony Studios did a great job stuffing all that they did unto the PS3.

[Lord Kesselroy]

I disagree.

They do not need to make a PC version. Piracy is killing PC gaming and everyone knows it. Why would they want to jump into that cesspool only to have their game stolen and up on the torrents? Having to work with so many different system hardware configurations would not be worth the time, hassle or piracy effects.

[John Kratos]

Been playing Gt5 for the past 2 days now. And it really is a great game one of the best racing games I've played in a while. There's tons of content and the actual racing is quite great. But this by no means the be all end all of racing games. There is problems with it primarly in the graphics department. The game at times can look beautiful but the standard cars are ugly and some of the tracks look bad texture wise. Again this is a truly great racing game and if your into racers you should definatly buy it. But trust me it doesn't crush Forza 3 into oblivion like some were saying and it isn't the second coming of Jesus Christ.
It's just a really great racing game nothing more nothing less.

[Lord Kesselroy]

Agreed.

And one more statement for the record:

Gran Turismo 5 will NOT move consoles for Sony.

This notion that once GT5 hits the marketplace tons of PS2 owners sitting on the sidelines (what? for the last 4 years?) would finally jump in and purchase PS3 consoles was totally crap.

We heard the same jibberish with all those allegedly big console moving exclusive titles before such as:

Little Big Planet
Metal Gear Solid 4
SOCOM: Confrontation
Uncharted
Uncharted 2
God of War 3
Resistance

Each time the Sony fanboys said the same thing and each time it was EPIC FAIL. What moved console sales for Sony was two crucial things:

1. Price cut to $299
2. Phat to Slim

Those two moved serious numbers of consoles. If Sony were to bring out a 120 gig PS3 for $199, it would literally fly of the store shelves. But that won't be possible this Christmas. Microsoft and Sony will keep the prices up since they are making a profit on the consoles themselves now. Something they both needed as quickly as possible.

Anyway, buy a PS3 or an XBOX 360, or better yet ... both. And then play games, watch movies and simply have fun!

[Thoreau]

there are too many biased nerds out there..... i play it and love it but it seems that others are allowing the media to make their choice about a game they never played. good job americans, keep paying for xbl and multiplatform games, meanwhile i will enjoy gt5 at not nitpick. where is the scrutiny for codbo, fall out nv?????????? i own them both and the statements by those hating on gt5.......ha ha ha ha, live in the past and on the judgements of others......fools

[Lord Kesselroy]

@Henry

I agree with you totally. When I first put my copy of COD:BO in my PS3 and started the multiplayer, I thought "...damn, I accidently got the PS2 version, I'll have to exchange this tomorrow at Best Buy..."

The graphics were that appalling. So why does everyone pick on GT5, an excellent game, when giving COD:BO a pass on the 2006 graphics engine?

Gameplay can only make up for some much.

[The5thApe]

EPIC FAIL!!!!

[Lord Kesselroy]

People, please. Can we not just play the game and enjoy it? Watch these two gentlemen unbox the game with utter excitement and delight:

http://playstationzone.net/...

Instead of arguing about this game, shall we not just go our separate ways and play either GT5 or Forza3 and thus be happy? All the time spent arguing in this manner could be better put to use playing your console of choice. Am I wrong?

[SnukaTheMan]

sad how people can defend something to their death....praising in one sentence and crying in another...

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

Embarrassing. Like I said this is more like GT 4.5 because they're using mostly ps2 cars. The majority of cars in GT5 look like this. Everybody screaming photo realistic now look pretty stupid.

Easily the most over hyped failure this gen and possibly ever!!!!

[Aleister_Crowley]

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[SephireX]

It's amazing how many 360 fanboys are coming in here trashing GT5. It's nearly as amzing as GT5. Sure the game's standard cars may not look as good as expected but the premium cars look better than any other racing game by miles. You say the game can't run in 1080p? Well Forza 3 barely runs in 720p so go figure. The game has an 8.9 average on gamespot and has been praised in every review as the definite driving simulation experience or basically, the best driving simulator to date. It's amazing how jealous 360 fanboys are right now, disagreeing with all the positive GT5 comments. You can put down the game all you want but that won't make it go away. Though GT5 is not all you should be worried about, the PS3 has an amazing list of exclusives lined up for next year. The 360 has Gears 3, that's it, which if it follows in Gears 2's footsteps, will be another failure. You want to talk about poor exclusives? Just look at Fable 3 and how that turned out or Alan Wake or Splinter Cell Conviction. All 360 exclusives that were disastrously disappointing. Now go back to sucking M$'s c*ck.

[Aleister_Crowley]

Don't listen to trolls. Listen to me. I'm the only truth.
Don't think it's a conspiracy. Know it is a conspiracy.

Adjust yout thoughts. Convince yourself. They don't want you to play GT5. Are you gonna let this happen ?? Are you gonna let them mock you, by telling you what to play ??? I don't think so.

You're smarts guys, aren't you ?? Ok, how do you feel now ??
Browsing your favorite web site... And find yourselves in front of those comments... Insulting your favorite game ??? A game you've waited 5 years to play. And now you've to listen to all those articles... Trying to convince you, that you must not play it.

Making ironic comments, laughing at your face ! Haha !
Are you mouses ?? Or men ?? Don't let them. You know what you have to do. *Smile*

There's only one truth and that is the one you choose to believe in.
Once you're set in the path, you can act.

[BrianC6234]

I don't get this. I see two ugly standard cars that are ugly in real life. Was Polyphony supposed to make them look better than they real look?

[MyNameIsNotRick]

I guess it's just another "lazy developer"... right ps3 fanboys?

[horndog]

This game just keeps getting hammered every time come here. What a f*ucking disaster. PD dropped tha ball on this one. No wonder it's a dissapoientment. I know a lot of people like myself who mostly wanted a ps3 for GT5 and to wait 5 years for sh*t like this is just pathetic. Good thing for Forza.

[Jonoc33]

that looks like GT2..

[Pehdahosman]

Only worse...Its a shame when 2010 games that took five years to make look like games from 10 years ago try harder Sony if i wanted these graphics I'd play my N64.

[Szarky]

The pixelated shadows are painful to look at. In the very first license test I did I noticed it and it's been bugging me since. Even in cockpit view you'll sometimes notice these blocky shadows, pretty noticeable.

[axolotl]

why all the bitching i dont get it? if you have a ps3 buy gt5 you'l love it(im enjoying it loads). If you have a 360, get forza and love it. Some people seem to have nothing better to do than start arguements online. Just go and play the games

[Killed4Less]

well when you use race replays and bullshots you are going to get called on it

is this the psp version? lmao

[earbus]

Wow that is a bad pick what were they thinking get my free copy soon .

[EvilC]

mybe you should post screen shots in HD and not SD

[yamzilla]

I don't understand the hype on the graphics in this game....I was intrested in renting this as I am an admited graphics whore...but seriously, all the videos in hd I have been watching, bar the super sweet weather effects look like tiger woods racing....the cars, the premium ones that is, look GREAT....the trees, the grass, the people in the stands, all look TERRIBLE...literally to me like tiger woods golf....I don't get it???

...and the freaking jaggies on everything....

[jro211]

OMG! Get over it people. I love the game. I see nothing wrong. Just seems like a bunch of BS nit-picking. Bunch of propaganda.

[hatchimatchi]

GT5 was hyped to no end by ps3 fanboys and now that game is out and people are seeing that it does indeed have flaws. OH MY!

Who cares? The game is awesome and isn't the second coming of christ like people were making it out to be. I'm enjoying the hell out of it and I'm not getting caught up with the stupid details that everyone else is. The cars handle how they should and the racing is top notch. I didn't buy a racing game to look at the crowds or trees along the track. I bought it to experience simulation racing with great physics. That's what I got and I'm more than happy with it.

[clrlite]

anyone find the ammount of fanboys flooding this thread unusual. It's as if it's a coordinated effort or something.

[tigertron]

Indeed, the 360 fanboys are out in full force here. *Sighs*

Honestly, people are over reacting, its not like EVERY car is like that. People should just stop whining and enjoy the game, if not, don't play it.

[Rauland]

I'm kinda disapointed at GT5 graphics because gt4 look so great for a ps2 game.

[memots]

So someone hooked up their psp to their HD TV with a standar def and took a picture with a iphone and zoomed in to see pixel.

This is getting crazy. I have never seen a game get bashed as much as this. Next article the grass is too green and the snowy mountain are too white.

Whatever.... going back to play gt5.

[Demaraix]

The only reason the screen shot looks bad is because in GT5 if u go far away and zoom close to the car like the person who posted the screen shot did and dont press square for auto focus then it will take ugly screen shots but if u do press square then it will take beautiful screen shots

[Orionsangel]

Why is everyone complaining about the car models? I just made some screencaps of GT5 and the car models look stunning!

[iOmegaSeriousi]

@ Everyone

that's why you rent the game before buying it, i knew this would've happen cuz a game that last more than 5 years to be developed and polish and still don't give the quality that a fan of GT is looking for. i don't know why Sony last this long to take the game to the street because Gt5 haven't improve that much from gt5 prologue.

by the way GAME-FLY rules :D

[leonlion]

they must have overlooked that one

[Masterchef2007]

GT5 is an incredible game. Those who dont play it dont know what they are missing. No other racers brings so many features into one package. I mean sure the game has its flaws but the features outweigh them.

[SnakeCL]

For what its worth, there are actually very few cars that look anywhere near that bad. The white one in particular looks like an old texture that slipped through.

Image is the white car in-question next to another standard car of the same body and type.

[TABSF]

This

http://img.nyleveia.com/201...

Was most likely done on PS3 Development kits or on the PCs they was building the game with.

[Fel08]

GTA: Vice City called. It wants it's cars back