PS3 owners petition Activision for Black Ops refund

A growing numbers of consumers are signing a petition demanding a full refund for those who bought the 'inferior' PS3 version of Call of Duty: Black Ops.

[Game-ur]

Kids, next time look before you jump.

[Cloudberry]

Lol.

[FarEastOrient]

The devil Kotick doesn't care, he has your money now and already ran to the bank with it.

[AAACE5]

It would not be wise to persue this action!

Going after something like this could either result in Activision taking Ps3 owners seriously and putting more effort into making games for it. Or, just cancelling further CoD games for Ps3!

It's apparant that Activision and MS have something going on, which is why they allowed them to post an ad saying "Black Ops plays best on 360!"

No matter how you feel about CoD games, you do not want CoD games to be exclusive to 360... Trust me!

[Chubear]

Ever since COD4 it's been down hill. Every year you see Activision have found a cash cow and are milking it for all it's worth.

You see they cut big corners to maximize profit on the game. They don't bring out proper sequels but just updates to their sequels and every year the online has issues and every year you still give them record sales.

Activision already showed you the direction they were going after COD4 and you all support them year after year so tell me, why would they all of a sudden change and bring out a true high quality product when you keep paying for the slop they feed you?

But other games like MAG that actually have a dedicated team constantly improving it and with way less issues than MWs, that gets put to the side. Games like KZ2 (a far higher quality game) will sell 3million units on the PS3 while MW games sell over 6mill on the same PS3.

You've made your voices loud and clear to these developers which is: "don't push the envelop, no need to bring out the very best product you can. Just give us games that make us feel like uber gamers with nice graphics and hype marketing cause these what we respond to"

All of you complaining about MW:BO and bought it, you all need to STFU about Bobby K and Activision. You love their product and give them record breaking sales year after year and then you want to complain and call them evil year after year too?

STFU MW gamers, you're all full of sh*t.

[Zydake]

I just played it a while ago at a friends house and I don't see the big problem. Sure the graphics look like CoD3 but gameplay is great. I love the zombies

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@Chu

If you played the game/understood the complaints you'd know it has nothing to do with dedication. TA has actually been really supportive with patches and requests, but you wouldn't know that if you haven't played the game. Comparing them to an exclusive game like MAG isn't fair and you know it. The game is on 4 platforms and they aren't all the same.

The game is by no means bad, so stop making a strawman here. It's just that the PS3 version is inferior and people are upset.

The biggest issue for me is the lack of dual-log in. People asking for a refund are being stupid, they were aware of the game's features before it released.

However, a petition for TA to treat us equally deserves support.

[arjman]

@Chubear
"STFU MW gamers, you're all full of sh*t."

Ok thats a bit harsh isn't it. Not every person who plays CoD is full of sh*t, I appreciate the awesome games on any system (eg. Uncharted 2, Gears)...Not bad for a MW gamer right?

[DirtyLary]

Does the PS3 version have the low res textures like the 360 version has?

Least in BC2, the ps3 version has higher quality trees and graphics compared to the xbox version.

[AngryTypingGuy]

What a bunch of entitled babies. Cry me a river. There is a certain segment of the PS3 fan base that cries over everything. People writing petitions, threatening to kill themselves if Final Fantasy doesn't remain exclusive to Sony, and now this.

Not that the gaming community in general aren't whiny losers (let's face, half the people reading this are pimply faced emo losers who will remain virgins for life), but the Sony fanboys are clearly worse.

[DirtyLary]

You mean segment of gamers in general, doesn't matter which console they are on.

[AngryTypingGuy]

DirtyLary, did you stop reading after my first paragraph?

[InfectedDK]

Look.
I'm playing CoD BO on my PS3 and it's running smooth.
The graphics could have been done better and there are some bugs here and there. So next time I'll skip CoD and buy Medal of Honor. In fact I might buy the new Medal of Honor also. However I'm very satisfied with the game as it is right now. Great gameplay and a lot of fun! My money on this game is acceptable. Maybe it's because I'm not using my time watching whatever comparison trailers and pictures and just enjoying the game instead. I'm not even thinking about the graphics being a bit better on the 360. However I do agree that the PS3 can perfom a lot better. Well maybe we'll see that in some coming PS3 exclusives like Killzone 3 or Resistance 3. GT5 looks absolutely amazing! You cannot demand that one game is doing so much better than so many other games. Beloved great games will always get some hate also. Just play the game and enjoy it. I understand if some hardcore fps gamers are not happy with this situation though. So it's a bit complicated I see. In fact it's stupid that they did not make this game equal on both PS3 and 360. They pisses some people off.. Mostly hardcore gamers.

[BattleAxe]

These people must be stupid, the PS3 version has online split screen functionality which a couple of my friends use all the time. My complaint about the PS3 version is that the game is unstable when playing online. Its common to get booted out of a game, which makes it impossible to keep a party together for much more than two games in a row.

Its all good though, because I believe this will be my last CoD purchase unless they do something that really wows me. The thought of a subscription and/or micro transactions would ensure that I don't buy the next game especially when their latest entry called "Black Ops" performs like crap online.

[JackBNimble]

I don't see what the fuss is all about.

My wife rented BO for the kids and we all enjoy playing it. I haven't seen it on the 360 so I can't compare graphics or anything like that, but I can honestly say that the graphics seem pretty good to me on my 42' HD TV.

Split screen seems fine aswell, I don't know if you can go split/2player screen online with any other CoD game but you can with BO.

The only real glitch or problem that I have encounterd is the host losing conection while the game is loading resulting in an error ,this doesn't happen all that often.

I am very curious as to what features the XBOX has over the PS3 version (can anyone fill me in?) but my kids want me to buy this game ..... I haven't made up my mind yet. I guess it would depend on how badly the PS3 versions is getting shafted.

[vickers500]

"Not that the gaming community in general aren't whiny losers (let's face, half the people reading this are pimply faced emo losers who will remain virgins for life)"

Oh please almighty AngryTypingGuy, tell us how we should live our lives. What is it like to bang 3 chicks at once while typing on n4g? How ever did you manage to learn how to type while getting laid? Can I have your autograph?

Everybody SHH!!! Lets all sit down while AngryTypingGuy tells people how to live their lives and how pathetic and inferior we all are in comparison to him, because obviously he knows what's better for us than we do.

[AngryTypingGuy]

Vickers, you're one of the guys that I'm talking about, aren't you? Did my comments hit a little too close to home? I can't think of another reason why you'd take them so personally.

"Oh please almighty AngryTypingGuy, tell us how we should live our lives." -- Start by not threatening to kill yourself because Final Fantasy is no longer a Sony exclusive. Also, don't get so emotional over posts on a video game messageboard.

Let me know when you want some more advice, kid.

[vickers500]

@AngryTypingGuy

Lol, who exactly are you to go around telling people that they are losers? You're here too, spending time posting and even checking comments and replies and replying to those comments and replies, when you could be doing better things.

So why aren't you out getting laid and being the cool dude you see yourself as? You obviously think you're superior to everybody on this site.

If people want to competitively argue online then that's fine. Who are you to tell them that they are losers for it, because again, you are here too, so why don't you think before posting such hypocritical comments? I don't have a problem with the first paragraph of your comment, but it's the second one that's really full of sh*t and hypocrisy.

But I guess people such as yourself have their head so far up their own @ss that they actually believe that they are gods gift to man. Go on kiddo, keep telling us all how to live our lives, because the world does revolve around you and anyone who has a different opinion or tastes than you do is just a pathetic loser.

[AngryTypingGuy]

Vickers, when did I say that everyone who posts on here is a loser? It's fun to post on messageboards, and argue on them. But it's another thing to react in an over-emotional way, like you have. I'm convinced that you're one of the people I was talking about.

Sorry, but I just picture all of these whiny PS3 fans who write petitions and cry about everything to look and sound like this: http://tinyurl.com/CODcryba...

Not that there aren't 360 fans or fans of other consoles that whine and complain, but it just seems from what I read (both articles and comments) that PS3 fanboys are the worst.

Also, if you've been following the gaming industry for a while like I have, you know how finicky gamers are in general. They complain about EVERYTHING. They're so petty too. You can make a comment on here that's 100% accurate and backed up in fact, but you will get a lot of disagrees if it's pro 360 or anti-PS3, and sometimes the other way around. They are indeed whiny little losers who will never get laid! Period!

[raWfodog]

Shouldn't have been in such a rush to buy it in the first place. A lot can be said for not being an early buyer. Sometimes it best to wait for the dust to settle and then see what's going on.

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

Exactly. This could had been avoided by following reviews and wait a little just to see owners reactions (and check if the reviews wasn't opnion from hyped up "journalist", paid up articles or people playing for only 4 hours).

There is the good sides of being an early adopter, but definely there is the down side of possibly getting totally burnt on the matter... Next time check rightly if the game really deserves the risk of a day one buy and if you happen to choose so and it isn't a good game, swallow it as a lesson, because asking a refund for something only makes sense if it's really broken (which, despite bugs, isn't the case) or it doesn't make what was advertised/is stated at the box.

Remember games cost more and more each generation so we all should get smarter if we want to be responsible with our money, the game will probably still be easy to find one month after release, no need to rush and if you really can't wait, rent it.

The uninformed costumer is exactly what those publishers making yearly releases count on to turn magnificient profits from minor upgrades, as far as we keep supporting it they will keep the crap going on. Whine won't save you, voting with your wallet maybe will.

[WhittO]

i wasnt going to buy cod but couldnt help it since it was cheap on amazon compared to the normal price and all the buzz so i jsut gave in hoping it would be a good game.

Have to say the only time in the entire game so far (about 2/3 through SP) where i thought "wow this is good" was the start menu! lol. Graphics are very POOR, game is the same as ever, thrills etc which the franchise sp relys on is in short demand or is a re-hash of what has already been done, yet not even as good.

I think the multiplayer is ok and like the wager matches, although getting some xp would be nice along with the money in them matches.
Well, the multiplayer would be nice if it worked anyway.

It took me and a m8 about 5 invites from him and 4 from me and about 10 min before it would put us in a party, then d/c us from party after being thrown out of our second match. It's isn't our internet connec either, I have 6mb/s unlimited download and 5mb/s upload speeds that should chomp through anything.

This game really feels like a cheap 3rd party game that was pushed out as fast as possible to cash in.

Imagine getting this level of gaming from a dev like Naughty Dog or Bungie! It just doesn't happen because they spend time to make their game the best possible.
And you can't really fully blame the devs, since it will be Activision pushing them to get the game done fast, you don't ever see Sony rushing unfinished games out, or even MS.

I won't be spending my money on a COD again, I said that about BO too but I've finally learnt not to buy into hype! Especially since alot of IW members "left", can't imagine the wreck of a game the next one will be if they push it out for release next year!!

[Jinxstar]

i hear ya. I refused to buy it for myself but bought it for someone for Xmas... I didn't want to support acti but it's what they wanted... I have a feeling I will be getting it as well for Xmas but who knows...

[v0rt3x]

lol whitto - read your last paragraph again and give that a thought again :P funny

[xAlmostPro]

im sorry.. although i dont agree with the petition as such..

you cant say things like "shouldn't have rushed to buy it" etc.

When theres so much hype for it, and even the developers saying it wont be inferior before launch etc. then you can expect people to be angry.. because they've basically been 'lied to'..

not only that you CAN call it un-fair, when there was clearly more effort and time gone into the 360 version, im aware they have a deal with microsoft but thats for timed exclusive DLC and exclusive advertising, not to make other versions sh*t..

even the PC version is overloaded with issues.

Not only this, recent patches for the ps3 version decreased the lag and made the overall performance better, which is great. But they also had the bad party system, bad matchmaking, choosing bad hosts etc as issues that 'were' fixed under that patch.. even though they were not fixed.. now on the forums treyarch have them listed as "fixed".. so basically we're stuck with a broken game?..

that to me sounds un-fair, and has nothing to do with rushing out to buy it etc. You like a franchise the new game is being released so you get it.. ohh it has some issues, ohh they're patching them GREAT!..you wait a week and they dont actually patch them.. thats BS

Developers need to get out of microsofts ass

Now i wouldn't go as far to say i want my whole money back, because despite the issues i'll continue to play it for awhile longer..and hopefully they'll actually get patched soon or i will have to stop playing, you can only put up with getting kicked from your party 7 times in a row for so long.

However some sort of incentive would be nice.. for the fact that we as fans of the franchise have paid for a broken game that after 2 weeks still hasn't been fixed. I dont know, maybe thoe WaW zombie maps for free, or something like that or even for treyarch to dedicate some time specifically for fixing the ps3 version.

[PotatoClock]

Free maps and Activision don't go together.

I don't think you can call any of this disappointment to do with BO unfair. They lied about it being a quality product yes, but when they keep releasing the same game with a massive amount of bugs each and every year you should LEARN from that and if you decide to buy it no matter what then expect that amount of mess.

When people buy the game regardless of wether they were disappointed with the last one or not and now whine about it saying their unfairly treated then us people who sit on the other side of the fence, having learned a long time ago not to buy COD, can't feel sorry at all for their whining.

[gman_moose]

I'm so glad I waited to unwrap mine. After all the negativity I was reading I said screw this, and returned it to Gamestop for a refund.

Activision is only hurting themselves though. Their 360 bias is shining brightly now, and the next installment will not sell on PS3. However, there are the idiots out there that will buy it and defend it no matter what.

I'm f***ing sick of COD... good riddance.

[gamingdroid]

I doubt any company would intentionally gimp their product. Especially if said gimping hurts their sales. After all a company is out to make money, not to aid a fanboy war!

Seriously, get over the conspiracy theory.

[gman_moose]

@ gamingdroid

I'm not saying they intentionally went "let's make a bad game because we need to show support for 360". I'm saying they didn't take the time to make the PS3 what it should have been because they knew it would sell 4-5 million with little effort. All I'm saying is that the PS3 owners won't be fooled next time. It doesn't really matter to me though. I'm done with COD. I will not miss it.

[bailoutbenny]

If the reviews were panning it, then perhaps reviews are useful afterall. A lot of people were saying they would wait for the GT5 reviews and got screamed down for it as if they were idiots. Waiting for reviews isn't a bad thing, it helps someone make a more informed decision.

[duplissi]

it took playing it for me to want it, and i was pleased that in some ways it is less noob freindly (more recoil, less auto aim *woot!!* also option to disable auto aim *double woot!!*), there are also some creative online modes in here. zombies, one in the chamber, and gun game are freakin awesome.

honestly i think treyarch should make a non cod shooter because there are moments all through black ops where they were doing some cool creative stuff, but because it would stray too far from the cod formula they were forced to hold back.

[Karlnag3]

Yes, zombies! Fighting waves of gradually more challenging enemies endlessly. I am amazed by the originality and creativity of this mode. It most definitely has not been done to death. Nope, still fresh and original. I thank you treyarch for this amazing innovation! /s

[divideby0]

game.... yep spot on comment

[visualb]

HAH

this game made a 600 million dollar gross...Kotic is just gonna print a copy for every petitioner, use each copy of the petition to wipe his a$$ , only to mail it back to all of the petitioners with a paper saying

"F*** you i have your money now HAH"

watch it happen

[Theonik]

Bobby Kotick laughs at your petitions. All the way to the bank.

[Thatguy-310]

Serves all you guys right... hopefully you guys learned your lesson this time around and think twice about purchasing the next COD next year...

[TheLastGuardian]

Hmmm...tempting but I think I'm going to keep my copy. It hasn't been that glitchy for me. I still haven't finished the campaign because I can't bring myself away from the multiplayer and zombies for long enough.

I bought COD4 but not WAW or MW2 so I think I still waited for the best game after 4.

[duplissi]

same here.

[r1sh12]

If I didnt get a refund for MW2, theres no way these kids will get one for Black ops.

[tatotiburon]

LMAO so ask a refund for all multiplataforms since 2006

[ReservoirDog316]

Oh God it's shameful to be a "gamer" nowadays. All we're known for is whining all day.

I understand always trying to make developers make games worth playing but these people are literally crying for no reason. Black ops is a very stable game and the PS3 version isn't inferior. These people just have personal issues with themselves of never being happy and they're projecting it on the game.

[Dsnyder]

Glad I didnt buy this. Think ill get new vegas.

[kparks]

over 1000 PPL have signed everyone sign it quick lol

[BillOreilly]

Hahaha the ad even said black ops is the best on 360! They told you before you bought it. Cod is always better on 360. If you like cod buy a 360. They will just stop putting it on ps3 and go full exclusive.

[Megaton]

I'm sure they'll swear off CoD again, and be first in line with their pre-orders for CoD again next year. Every year we hear boycott, and every year nobody follows through. Gamers can be a really sad, spineless bunch.

[PS360fanboy]

Ridiculous.

[BulletProofVess]

I'm not gonna lie the ps3 version is subpar

I can't even get in a party with my friends half the time

& let's not even discuss the lag that killstreaks cause

I'm not sure if these are ps3 only issues but these along with lack of dual sign in are a huge downer

[vhero]

Most the problems are on 360 version too like the spawning issue so grow up will you?? Stupid fanboys..

I got my money back plus £5 today since I paid £30 for my copy I traded it in towards GT5 and got £35 on trade :) RESULT. My whole point of buying it really.. Done it for the last 2 COD games..

[xAlmostPro]

@vhero spawning issues have been around since the originsl COD on all platforms, that isn't a 360 specific issues and it's not about being a fanboy.

[JeffGUNZ]

The 360 version is the top version, it's not being a fanboy, it's just obvious with all the issues stemming from PC and PS3. I am sure they will all be worked out soon enough.

[imvix]

@JeffGUNZ

Sorry but 360 is missing dedicated servers and mods. PC is definitive version.

[Sarcasm]

Meh, if that's the case then clearly people should get their money back for the PC versions which isn't utilizing people's hardware properly.

[bunfighterii]

Here here. I reviewed it right here on N4G ( http://n4g.com/channel/call... It's a mess.

I stopped after reaching level 41, it's just so frustrating.

[cemelc]

It took you 41 levels to realize it??? LoL

[xtheownerzx]

i have to say that ps3 players can be idiots at times lol.

[Pedantic91]

How are PS3 players idiots when the developers are to blame ?

[ufc345]

its not really the devs fault i mean come one 1-2 years is a very short time period for them to fix everything in the game

[LF91]

Well were not the ones who pay to play online!

[Motorola]

u went there

[sp1deynut]

No...you're just the ones who have to put up with inferior online because of it.

[xAlmostPro]

@sp1dey lol your really think paying to play online gets your better graphics and party sytems etc that are ALL down to the developers? lmao

[xxxxxxxxxx1]

Silly PS3 you guys pay for online. Oh you pay! You pay in large amounts of "not having FUN"

[jack who]

all sony fans on n4g clamed ps3 got the best version so no refund for you

[Parapraxis]

No.
Troll harder kid.

[yewles1]

Drugs kill, kid.

[Corrwin]

Kids need to learn to vote with their wallets, not complain a game isn't up to their standards, especially after paying over the RRP for yet another casual shooter.

Good job kids, you are model consumers. Buy, then Bitch.

[timmyrulz]

I wonder if they will do the same with GT5??

[bunfighterii]

ZING!

[Graey]

Why Would they?

[sp1deynut]

Just like with most other "AAA PS3 exclusives", they'd actually have to BUY it first, to have a complaint. Instead, they'll just continue to brag about how great it looks in all the pics and vids, and wait for a pricedrop, or rent it.

[Silly gameAr]

Nah, GT5's a quality product. I tell you, fear brings em' out.

[JeffGUNZ]

I am a 360 owner only, and I will say GT5 looks beautiful and will be excellent. I do hope the game gets the figures it deserves, but I don't think it's going to be the save all of all things. Sadly, a lot of people are not into driving simulations like they were in PS2 era. I hope that I am wrong and GT5 does well, I always liked those games.

[newhumanbreed]

This generation of consoles are more into shooters.

[Raider69]

they can sign but they wont get nothing!It never happened and is never going too!

[SonyNGP]

/facepalm

[WithMyLastBreath]

I haven't had many problems and I play on ps3. And good luck getting a refund haha. If you didn't research the game before buying it, it's your own damn fault.

[BeaArthur]

I haven't really had any issues. Some connection issues here and there but nothing I would really get upset about.

[Greek God]

No problems yet best Racing sim ever.

[KillerPwned]

hahah yes GT5

[KillerPwned]

I played it a little bit at friends house i loved it did not think it was that bad as everyone says on PS3. Probably a lot of flamebait.

[Trunkz]

If anyone should be demanding refunds it should be the PC gamers lol I see valid points for PS3 gamers to be angry, but to demand full refunds after playing it for this many weeks is very unlikely.

You should be demanding a patch or something to add those features in.

[xAlmostPro]

we have demanded a patch, but the patch they released didnt fix all the issues.. infact only fixed 2 issues but the others have been dismissed as fixed by treyarch on the forums.

[darx]

Get it for the 360 then.

[AssassinHD]

I don't get what the big deal is. I have been playing the PS3 version since it launched, and I have not encountered anything that made me regret my purchase. I have experienced lag in a few matches, but only a few. I have encountered a transmission error, but only a few times.
Sure the spawn system needs to be tweaked, but they are working on that.

I have been enjoying my purchase overall.

[JeffGUNZ]

Thank you for an honest input. If you actually look at the names of these people over-reacting about these issues, a lot are the same people who said; "I will never buy a COD, it's rehased garbage, screw activision!!!" Now, these same people are attacking the game due to this. So, these people are either hyprocrites or liars, either way, they are morons. People who actually own the game and have played it realized that the minor issues have been resolved and the spawn system is the only thing that needs a little adjustment.

[bunfighterii]

Nobody is signing this petition because it costs money (mandatory 'donation')

[AKissFromDaddy]

Selling my copy on ebay and I'm at $51 so far. About to get a full refund or more with 3 days of bidding left, WIN 4 AKissFromDaddy :-)

[Darth_Bane79]

If they wouldn't have rushed to buy it in the first place then they wouldn't be dealing with all this crap... So glad I didn't waste my money on this crap...

[deerain]

Glad I didn't get this now :) I will just wait for Killzone 3

[123360]

more hits please.168 players out of millions,lets wait for the 360 owners to complain. theres plenty to fix on both consoles,then theres the pc version,flame bait for hits there not going the gt5 route

[beast242tru]

i was thinking i should get this for my 360 seeing that activision gives microsoft all the love and hear alot of stories about all these call of duty games breaking ps3 from mw1 straight to this black ops

[DarkFantasy]

" The complaint also alleges that Activision and developer Treyarch have failed to deliver promised features for the PS3 version of Black Ops, including online split-screen functionality, which is featured in the Xbox 360 edition"... is this true??? no split screen online for ps3???

[JacobIsHollywood]

I love Treyarch for this. Playing the game by yourself is bad enough. Splitting the screen would make the already horrendous graphics even worse because you'd be seeing less.

[sp1deynut]

...as the PS3 is prone to framedrops and screen tearing with such a feature, unlike the 360. It's been covered in numerous head-to-head comparisons over the years.

[ddelella]

Where is this promise? I don't follow PS3 news but for the Xbox these items were hammered on in details months before release because we care about our Xbox 360 games. Guess PS3 owners don't care to do their research before a games release and complain afterwards.

[saint_john_paul_ii]

there is splitscreen online, problem is, you cant play splitscreen online with dual PSN logins, a feature that has been available on the PS3 since Resistance 2.

[xAlmostPro]

its actually there lmao i dont know what thats all about tbh.

Loads of matches you go in has split screen players. Although im pretty sure they did say "dual psn sign in would be allowed" which isn't.. but split screen IS there actually

[bananlol]

Now wait a minute, the 360 version have splitscreen but the ps3 does not? Is this true?

[JeffGUNZ]

No it's not true. They both have it.

[bananlol]

Oh good, people complain about trivial things like grass, pixels and slightly lower framerate. Now missing splitscreen would have been something to complain about.

[DarkFantasy]

well thats good to here that split-screen online is there, this article had me worryed,this was one of the main reasons i wanted black ops .. lmao i got a disagree for asking about split-screen LOL ohhh n4g = lots of laughs

[JacobIsHollywood]

Every version of this game sucks! If anything, the PC gamers got screwed the most!

[labaronx]

and quite honestly its starting to feel like buying Madden every year..... your hoping things have improved but they hardly do. the 360 version is probably the most stable but even it has some issues, but i guess thats enough of a victory for some people,

That being said i really suggest people just stop buying the games, call of duty isnt the end all to be all for gaming,

Like Madden i think im gonna take a break from call of duty on all platforms for a while

[ddelella]

This petition is pointless. Everytime a game is released to all consoles there is always a version missing features with inferior graphics...it's called Wii. Every console is designed slightly different to cover the online system, graphics, and other console specific items. I guess the PS3 just wasn't ready to handle all the cool features that Xbox could. Perhaps its time to stop complaining that PS3 is better graphically when in almost every game the Xbox is equal too or better.

[TheRealist2102]

Wow..you actually believe that...lol. Another one bites the dust.

[GunPants]

They should be begging Sony for a refund. For selling a inferior console!

Zing!

[bananlol]

How is it inferior? Its not sonys fault some developers have yet to lern to use the cell architecture efficiently. Hell, i can only programm for x86.

Its like having a race between two equally good drivers, but you put one in a car and one in a plane. The only reason the one in the car winns is because the one in the plane doesnt know what to do.

[GunPants]

Bro, can I call you bro?

Anyway honestly your still humping sony's leg after 4+ years of less than equal games on the ps3? Omg you have been brainwashed by Kevin Butlers sweet voice. If devs can't get the best out of the ps3 by now then they never will. What about KillZone? you say. Wh Wh Wh what about Uncharted? You say. yup great games which proves the Sony will only FULLY back Exclusive games.

It's a common Japanese trait. One I wish a Americans would start doing (back the things made here to support the ppl working here)

P.s. I Own a xbox360 AND PS3 but, I refused to ever purcase any multi plats on the PS3. Because of these reasons.

Edit: I forgot to answer your ? But You answered your own question. The reason it is inferior, is because after 4+ years it's still to complex to dev for. Call it ahead of it's time if u want but it won't help the devs any.

Hey the guy that made the N'gage probly wakes up everyday telling himself he was "ahead of his time" didn't help him any tho.

[bananlol]

First, i do not currently own a ps3, just a 360, ds and a crappy pc. Personally i no emotional attachment to my consoles, for instance i like halo and mario, but i do not like the 360 and the ds.

The point i was trying to make was that if you look at it from a hardware perspective the ps3 is vastly superior to the 360. Now the reason 360 multiplats are often superior i that processors have been made a certain way since the early 80s. At first trowing in more transistors and making them smaller worked fine but now its starting to become annoying. Thats why new architectures like the cell and arm have been developed.

But coding for a different architecture is almost like learning a new language, and a lot of people didnt bother. Now cod is mostly coded in the old "language" so the xbox understands it natively, but the ps3 needs to translate everything. Thats why even though its mor powerful the games look worse. Thats why people call developers who make subpar ps3 games lazy.

So if one is to call something inferior the logical choice would be the devs.

[etownone]

" if you look at it from a hardware perspective the ps3 is vastly superior to the 360."

I stopped reading rt there.
It's more then obvious by now it's not "vastly superior."
PS3 - supposedly better CPU and blu-ray (which isn't necessary to make a great game)
360 - better GPU and unified Memory.

Now if you said that original Xbox was vastly superior to the PS2, then that would be a fact.
Xbox - better CPU, GPU, more memory and HDD then PS2.

[bananlol]

The ps3 can pull of over twice as many flops as
the 360, so id say its superior alright. 256+256==512, and half the ps3 ram is way faster than the 360 ram so id say its superior in that category too. The 360 gpu does pack more of a punch than the rsx, but then again a x86 processor is worthless when it comes to rendering graphics. Try disabeling your graphic drivers on your pc if you dont believe me, it will look horrendous.

The gamecube was also inferior to the xbox, yet it was my favourite. Which console is the best?subjective. Which console is the most powerful? Objective. Last gen it was the xbox, this gen its the ps3, you cant argue with facts.

[Zydake]

HAHAHA

/s

wtf? You cant be serious..

[etownone]

@bananda

all I heard was blah,'blah, blah blah blah and blah.

Going back to play the superior version of Call of Duty on my 360.

lol

[bigjclassic]

BURN!!!

[beast242tru]

i never saw a call of duty commercial with ps3 logo at end EVA activision really should charge less for ps3 version if they know its not same game as 360

[BigBoyTaz]

JUST TELL ME WERE TO SIGN????

[floetry101]

Anyone who feels the need to refund this is batshit retarded. First of all, PC owners got the ass end over everybody. I have the PS3 version and it plays as it should. Yes, there are one or two features that have been left out, but look at all the material Treyarch packed in people. The reason it is sub-HD is to get THE BEST POSSIBLE PERFORMANCE, which makes sense considering they had about a year to churn this game out. Hell, given the condition it's in, i'm surprised how well it actually turned out. Christ, the gaming community can be ungrateful at the best of times.

[XabiTheHumble]

Bro, the pc community can fix the problems themselves, they have that luxury. The console gamers don't.

[Masterchef2007]

They did do a crap job with the PS3 version cause they didnt want to spend the money to bring it up to par with the 360 one. I mean if they really wanted to they could have made both versions the same. But sadly that is not the case. Activision are developers whose focus is to produce a game that sells a ton but is cheap to produce on a yearly basis.

[artsaber]

I resist the urge to purchase on big name games like this, the reason is simple. Activision and Bobby KNOW people will buy it because of branding, the same way millions of people bought that Halo ODST garbage and defended it till their deaths. At least make an attempt to rent these games 1st on a Game Pass, go through the campaign in a few days, and play the online, you will know in about a week and 1/2 to 2 weeks if it has the staying power for you to purchase. And better yet, by then you should be able to get it at a discounted price (a few bucks off).

I ain't gonna lie (I'm 50 Tyson), there were so many folks selling Black Ops after owning it a week, it wasn't impossible to snatch it up for $45 or so on a quick sale. Buyer beware on shooters, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT REFUSE TO HAVE A BETA.

Best sound advice possible: BUY NOBODY'S SHOOTER DAY 1 WITHOUT A BETA... THE BETTER ONES USUALLY HAVE THEM: Halo Reach - Beta; Killzone 2 & 3 - Beta, Black Ops - No Beta... now you know why there wasn't one for Black Ops, they woulda lost an assload of sales on gamers' garbage discovery of lag and mediocrity.

It is especially clear that Activision's stance is money first, gamer last... DEAD last... we don't give a shyt we got your money last.

[AKissFromDaddy]

You're right. Buying multiplayer games that have betas only.

[kagon01]

@artsaber

bubbles...

[beast242tru]

i really dnt know why devs dnt start make games for ps3 and port to the 360 its already easy for them to make it for the 360 challenge urself and when you port to 360 it wnt come out lookin like shaaat plus even if it does they will still play ps3 owners use to quality fro first party straight across da board 360 users just wana play something thats not halo (crackdown) yes yes odst really is complete garbage i traded it for halo 3

[maxcer]

what would be the alternative? delaying the ps3 version long enough to be on par with with the 360/pc versions? that isn't going to happen any time soon. as you could imagine the backlash of unhappy gamers who wanted the game released with its counterparts would devastate the sales of said game.

[Knightofelemia]

I ran both CODWOW on my PS3 and 360 and it had more going on the 360 specially the blood scene with the Japanese. I ran both Black Ops on my PS3 and 360 and the 360 version looked better aswell all thoe I did enjoy it on my PS3. But signing a petition to Activision to get your cash back its pointless its like the petition floating around for bring Tales of Vesperia to the states for the PS3. Companies like Activision and Namco know its out there but they pay no attention to it.

Its bad to see one game is better than the other on other consoles. But thats because Activision perfers the Xbox Activision and Microsoft share the same bed and the game will have more features on the Xbox. When Modern Warfare 2 came out it had a Xbox 360 bundle and what did Sony get nothing no Bundle all thoe I would not mind seeing what the PS3 bundle with the game would have looked like. I say to save the $70 bucks on the game rent it play it if you like it then buy it if not then your only out $10 bucks.

[madcowz64]

Remember the DMC4 Petition that had a bunch of signatures and it got absolutley no where. I see what these ps3 owners are getting at but nothing will change. I agree the ps3 version looks shitty compared to the 360 but crying won't fix your issues. I have both consoles and just from looking at CoD's track record I know to get it for the 360.

[Azazel]

This isnt Sony's fault, and the xbox isnt any better than the PS3 hardware wise. This is Activision & Treyarch who are at fault. Maybe it is true that the PS3 is harder to develope games on, but I dont think any less of the PS3, its the game developers. Sony should be stepping in at this point, and rattle their cages.

[joeyisback]

if it wasnt for sony activision wouldnt be who they are today back on the ps2 it sold millions more than reg xbox and ya ps3 whip reg xbox in sells but if it wasnt for sony they wouldnt be who they are today sony could of got the ip like they was offer but sony made a mistake and said no activision sucks they only care for the money

[phinch]

where can i sign this petition

[itsralf]

My copy works fine, but i wouldn't mind getting some money back :PP

[Dorwrath]

Since COD4 the series has been on the decline. Thankfully I just rented all the COD games after COD4. I played them all so far and only enjoy the campaign, but as I don't play online the $60 price tag is not worth it for a campaign only player.

Rent it just for the fun.

[Urrakia34]

I say no refund for these guys! It's their fault for even buying it in the first place when all Activision does with COD is milk it.

[ottoman_239]

boo hoo, cry me a river.

[Big_Mex]

Gotta love gamefly, makes these kinds of problems go away

[BlueEye]

Talk about fanboyism.

Yes the PS3 version was given the short stick and its missing a few things the 360 has, but there is no need to become such big doucehbags about it.

No matter how much fanboys bitch about it or make conspiracy theory's about Actavision in the end ditching PS3 completely that is not gonna magically make them refund your money make you wait a month or something and then release and updated version on par with 360.

For sure there will be updates that will even things out, and perhaps PS3 will get something 360 doesn't.

So dont bitch about it two weeks after release, cause just cause fanboys do nothing new but whine hundreds of thousands of people will still play this game on the PS3, I'm looking here at how many people are online, 496,329, and that's only about half of the what is later in the day.

The gameplay is great, wager matches are new and amazing, combat training is fun, theater mode is gold AND ZOMBIES TOP IT OF WITH A CHERRY OF AWESOME!

So stop the bitching wait a bit and deal with the cards you were dealt, dont bitch to the dealer.

[visualb]

you funded this machine that abuses and extorts the customer with no shame

now you suffer.

vote with your money children (or better, mommy's and daddy's money in many cases)

[g5bay]

fools will always be fools

[BaSeBaLlKiD721]

"The complaint also alleges that Activision and developer Treyarch have failed to deliver promised features for the PS3 version of Black Ops, including online split-screen functionality, which is featured in the Xbox 360 edition."

Uhh, the online split-screen is already there... My roommate plays online split-screen with me sometimes...

[FAT MAN GO BOOM]

A whole 148 peoiple signed... nothing but a BS news to get HITS to increase revenue...

[gypsygib]

The petition costs at least 2 dollars WTF.

[Kran]

HEY HEY HEY! The 360 people are beta testing the DLC. We're doing PS3 peeps a favor.... (see, now it bites you in the ass)

[Stevo35]

Wow, great article... not. Its wrong! Maybe I am special but I have Split screen on the PS3 version and the graphics are easier on the eyes then the XBOX. They are not as blurred!

[Kran]

Wait a minute. People are complaining the ps3 version is inferior. Hello. Didnt assassin's creed get extra features the 360 didnt? So they cant exactly complain.

[Liefx]

Are these guys retarded?! No split screen my ass! There is most definitely splitscreen.

[theonlylolking]

Come in and have some of their devs fix the game? They did it with bayonetta why not black ops?

[Xander756]

The people filing this petition fail to realize the 360 version is just as bad. Black Ops is an unpolished, terribly made game. ANYBODY who purchased it is entitled to a refund.

[unseen49]

ima ps3 fan only and ima say why you ps3 fans go buy the fucking game yall should of stayed with mag...mag2.0=best war game out right now

[seifer085]

Just get Bad comapany 2 people!

[Allowen]

I m sorry but what is the problem with this game ?
To me it rocks with awesome gameplay ,good sound and graphics.

The graphic level o CoD BO does not have huge amount of details or polygons such as some 1st party PS3 games Uncharted 2 and KZ2.

But this game runs in 1080p on my TV while KZ2/UC2 only does 720p and i can notice a huge difference in resolution.
I guess upscaling rocks ?:)

Here ,I preffer higher resolution over a super new engine that can't do 1080p on my console.

Maybe in a 720p HD tv Black ops does not seems too good like in a led full had screen.

[unseen49]

this my list in war games order

1.socom(waiting on socom4)
2.MAG
3.COD

[AtatakaiSamurai]

when it comes to war shooting for me it is

mag
killzone
resistance
socom

thats more than enough for me. i agree with many comments here. why do you buy this game all the time when you can see they dont care about really improving the game? they just keep making it super easy for everyone to feel like they are the best. maybe that is good but it is too much.

[PantherDST]

People are idiots I see. Owning the PS3 verison, I have not encoundered any issues that wern't also present on my MW2 360 verison. I think this is fanboy hype at its best.

Buy the game on any system and simply enjoy....

[Garnett]

You should call and ask Sony for a refund for an inferior system, seriously PS3 isnt better than $xpensive box $360 and Sony knows that.

[SnukaTheMan]

But they keep up the apperance that it is the superior manchine..haha

[Roper316]

people actually expect quality from Activision & COD? Where have you been all gen? They have all been way over rated for what they were. You got what you deserve by supporting Activision and this over rated under achieving franchise.

[kagon01]

Hypocrites...

The same guys that said they wouldn't support Activision after the previous COD fiasco still bought the game.This also goes for the PC gamers that sign the petition for dedicated servers in MW2 and still bought the piece of $h1t...

That is why I'm a superior educated gamer when I preach what you call BS or hating, I mean it...

Seriously, this generation of gaming is so full of $h1t its becoming unbearable for me...

Too bad people buy first, and later complain after agreeing with Activision's terms of service, and the next year they will buy the next COD like the dumb@$$e$ they are...

Keep supporting DLC, at least you're making a favor to the gaming industry by destroying gaming itself with BS...

[AtatakaiSamurai]

this is so true.

so many poeple say FU activison and FU Kotick but they go and buy the game over and over again and even give them more sales than b4.

it really hurts my head when i think about it lol

but everyone saw all the videos of the game before release like we do for all the other cod games. they didnt do much for a game that is the 4th game this gen and made so much sales with all the other cod.

and then next year they will go and buy 2 copies again and then get mad again. i know people like the game but wow, this cod games is a good rental not $60

[No Way]

Why do I have a feeling this petition originated here on N4G? lmao.

[theafroman]

*facepalm* again come on

[REDHULKSMASH]

!

[Nate-Dog]

Lol good luck.

[ShabbaRanks]

Seriously WTF . . . Okay so I do hate Bobby K. but pretty much all my psn friends got black ops and I wanted to try it anyway and I was impressed. I didnt touch the sp ( and never did in all cod games) but the mp is great. No more noob perks like one man army and commando plus killstreaks dont count as kills towards getting other killstreaks, witch is good and theres way less campers. . . The graphics are okay and sometimes better on other maps . . . I dont know what people are crying about. . . Oh ya the game did freeze like 3 times on me, but that isnt anything new in console gaming. . . Happened to me several times in killzone2, midnightclub LA, GTA SA and many more . . . To finish I didnt have any other major problems. . . As an owner of both 360 and ps3 id like to ask why no one talks about how shitty halo reach is online. . . Every time the host quits ( witch happened way to much for me) the game pauses for at lest 3 minutes until it replaces the host

[Sci0n]

Wow did anyone actually read the article? its obviously a 360 fanboy trying to get PS3 fans rowed up by posting false info. The PS3 does have online split screen and it works just fine. How do articles with false information like this get approved?

[SCARE-KRO]

Funny how people need to spread misinformation about PS3 titles to justify their purchase of an Xbox. Black Ops has featured splitscreen online in all modes (zombies, multiplayer and combat training) since day 1. Lying and clutching at straws is all you guys have got. Hope that makes you sleep better at night.

[artdafoo]

STFU and sell it, I sold my copy 4 days after it came out, and still got $50 for it.

[kasasensei]

Ridiculous petition imo.

[auen1]

dumb-asses. they should have considered that before they made their purchases, then they wouldn't have to get a refund. as they old adage says: buyer beware.

activision is obviously in cahoots with microsoft, since ms has fallen off and has less and less must-have exclusives. so rather than paying companies for exclusive rights, which would be much costlier, they can just pay the developers and publishers to make an inferior product on competitors' consoles, that way a company like activision can still get the revenues for selling copies on all platforms.

[KaiokenKid]

umm, why was the PS3 version inferior again? Slightly lower resolution adn FPS diferences no one will notice? This is not a new thing. Why are they bitching about it now. This is hardly the most agregious example of a bad PS3 port.

[violents]

I only have a ps3 and I think the game looks great, its lots of fun to play, IT DOES HAVE 2 player splitscreen online, and has minimal problems online(or at least less problems than any other online game I own) If you wanna be a picky bitch any game is going to be missing something somewhere.

And if you think theyre doing you so wrong, get an education, make a game, and show them how its done. You know since you know what its all about already.

[The_Zeitgeist]

I think the people that are crying so much are the people that have terrible Internet connections. I have the PS3 version and I play on Wireless and and have only been disconnected a handful of times. Sure it can be annoying but come on people!

[Gamer_Z]

Well ladies and gentle men that's what happens when you support a crap game like BO. Call of Duty will just keep getting worse and worse because Activision knows that they don't need to try hard to please the masses of sheep out there that will continue to buy this game. I have always been a big fan of COD and especially COD4 but after playing Black Ops I can see how badly this series has degraded and the direction Activision is taking the series too and I have to say I don't like it. When you settle for crap, crap is all that you will continue to receive and to the people that say this game is good truly you do not know what a good game is since you can’t tell the difference between a turd and a quality game.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

LMAO...

[jag_stilvecchio]

Good luck trying to get anything out of that turnip. Glad I decided to pass on Black Ops altogether.

[A LIVING LEGEND]

Fool me once shame on you.........etc.etc.
I'm certain the next COD will be much better.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

The kings of petitions at it again.

[SnukaTheMan]

Yet time and time again it happens....i got one headache I dont need another.

[MR LOOKINGBILL]

good luck with all that ps3 boys...Bobby Kotick has your money in his coffers.

[jay_taztt]

horrible source, i play online spilt screen all the time on ps3.

[A LIVING LEGEND]

Were the actual game sold for what it is worth then it is highly unlikely that anyone would petition for the mere pittance spent....likely 8-10$
However,both parties were fooled and only one of them feels obligated to ask for,rather demand a refund.
This IS supposed to be happening and yet it is suppressed time and again.....
I wouldn't gloat because such repetitive junk performs any better than similar repetitive junk.

[DAS692]

...In the Call of Duty series, and if they weren't so stupid to buy the piece of shat in the first place, then they wouldn't have had to do this. Bottom line: It's your fault for buying the game. You should have seen this coming with the BS they've been putting out since COD4 was a hit. They have been milking the CRAP out of the Call of Duty cow since then and now... The cow just isn't putting out... Put down COD and give Battlefield a try. (which seems to be following the same path as well) but time will tell with Battlefield 3.

[WINZLOW]

every year you guys always say the same shit. "im not going to support call of duty anymore". what a bunch of babies. be happy with your game.

[Gamer_Z]

It’s like saying be happy taking it up the ass. I can see why everybody is pissed off you pay good money for a game that’s supposed to be the same on both consoles but then you come to find out it’s even shitier on the other console. I personally just don’t like the game sure I can pick it up for the Xbox but for what? It’s a crap game, a former shell of what it once was which was greatness.

[jc48573]

how come we didn't do this with other games?

[jc48573]

you know what? If we do this, then this will surely scare the developers. Man, it will be nice to drag a company down to the slumps once in awhile. More power to the consumers.

[A LIVING LEGEND]

^Because the 'kid' next door doesn't and will never play Demon souls or Fallout or Infamous or GT5.....
They feel ' robbed ' and to an extent have been.

[Black-Helghast]

Problem is...Activision doesn't care for the ps3...AT ALL...i'm happy that Infinity Ward and Activision aren't together anymore, Because i want a War game from Infinity Ward that is the same on the ps3, same on 360 and same on PC.

[MetalFreakMike]

Like I said before in another post. It was a lazy port and they do not really care much because they already have your money. They make it on the 360 and then port it the PC and PS3 to cash in on those platforms. I brought the game thinking that it was going to be a good port this time but of course I was really wrong. I fell for the hype and now I'm stuck with a laggy and glitchy game. I was a idiot for buying the "Hardened Edition" because it came with 4 zombie maps and a medal with a steelbook case. Not worth the extra 20 I paid for it.

I'm pretty much going to switch back to Bad Company 2 when their expansion pack comes out. Medal of Honor was good but it's more of a sniperfest then anything else. Killzone and Battlefield for now on.

[ZILLA]

now go pick up the FPS that is made for the PS3...BAAAAAAD COMPANY 2!

[jmallymav]

im happy with the ps3 version
played the xbox version, i like it too
i own the ps3 version..im satisfied..FTW!!

[PSK22]

It could be 360 or the PS3 version superior/inferior, who cares, I will never buy a Call a Duty game, esp this one. Better yet, I will never buy any game from Activision.

[prodigal_twit]

Don't game retailers have a return policy? why didn't these people return the game when they didn't like it??

[MetalFreakMike]

Once you open a new game then your stuck with it. Return policys are only really for unopened games or in the case of gamestop, used games. If it's not working right then you can return it but only to be replaced with the same game. Trust me when I say this, if you brought it from a store that allows you to take back opened games then your lucky.

[prodigal_twit]

Okay, my bad. Must be different stores, different countries, different policies because here (Aust) EB Games lets you returns games for a full refund within seven days of purchase if you're not happy with it.

Still, this petition is pointless and won't go anywhere, I say just sell or trade the game in and get over it...

[hot111]

lol
Activision is not obligated to platform parity.360 has nothing to do with PS3.People have the right to ask for refund if PS3 advertised(game box,adds,etc) functions are not working.Activision(game maker),Sony(QA greenlight) and retailer are to blame.

It's totally irrelevant if 360,Wii,PC,etc version are running at 2550p 500fps,PS3 version is a separate entity.

[leonlion]

where do i sign?

We all know activision took a wad of cash from MS to make the ps3 version crap...

[manky]

where do i sign?

On my butt...

[guitar_nerd_23]

if you want to play fps as your main genre next gen spend £300 on a gfx card for pc rather than a console- problem solved.

[Cerv-Clash]

I'm a PS3 owner but even I know most multiplat games will be better on the 360.Stop whining you bought the game knowing that there will ALWAYS be bias.

[KaiokenKid]

There not to the extent that you should care about it really.

[mopground]

got this on pc along with friends ive just gotta say.... what a crap game no more money for you activision!! this is the last time i buy modern warfare