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Could the Reviews of Gran Turismo 5 even affect its Sales at this point?

Could even a string of highly critical reviews condemn Gran Turismo 5 to failure?

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Sackdude4931d ago

GT fans which are over 15 mill, are buying GT5 before those so called "professional reviewers" write a review.

I will add GT5 pre orders are over 1.5 mill copies only in Europe...

I don't expect high numbers in US, because most American people (I said most not all) don't have any knowledge about cars, MOST American gamers care about guns and shooting people in a game...

Jaybad544931d ago

Thats a very ignorant comment, im not from the US so I cant really say what "most american people" are into but I doubt you are in a particularly good place to do so either

xYLeinen4931d ago

Not going to agree with anyone but his comment in not ignorant, but only very stereotypical.

zootang4931d ago

The GT fans didn't care about the low GT PSP reviews (still sold in the millions). It seems as though the game reviewers don't get Gran turismo. Drivers understand though, and that's all polyphony care about. I'm guessing.

THEONEANDONLY854931d ago

"most American people don't have knowledge about care" haha wow that's classic. Because ya know if i remember right Americans invented the automobile, ahem henry ford ring a bell? That's such a lame ass broad thing to state. Did you do a poll? I highly doubt you know EVERYONE in America. I don't know you and I know about cars and am buying GT5. Tons of my friends are buying it. you can't just claim stuff with a generalized opinion and pretend it's fact.

zootang4931d ago (Edited 4931d ago )

Theoneandonly

"you can't just claim stuff with a generalized opinion and pretend it's fact."

Go look up Karl Benz, typical Americans (lol) think they invented the world.

TheWretched4931d ago

God... "Americans invented the car"... tell that to a German or French guy (depends on who you ask, both tell you they did it).

Ford only made the production of cars faster, nothing else.

George Sears4931d ago (Edited 4931d ago )

@THEONEANDONLY85

Henry Ford did not invent the automobile. He did revolutionize a commercialized way to produce and mass manufacture them, but that's a huge difference.

blackbeld4931d ago (Edited 4931d ago )

I bet you,

IGN will give GT5 a 8,5/10

Those M0thf#ckers.

GT5 should at least get 9,5/10 or 10/10

Qui-Gon Jim4931d ago (Edited 4931d ago )

"henry ford ring a bell?" Y'know, he didn't invent the automobile, right? He invented the assembly line, which made automobiles affordable to the masses.

There is no straightforward answer to who invented the autmobile because it was an evolution of ideas, but, according to the Library of Congress, the first self-propelled vehicles were actually built for the french army in 1769, while the first "true automobile" was invented by Karl Benz, a German, in 1885.

source: http://www.loc.gov/rr/scite...

Edit @ Estranged: I checked on it, and you're right. Ransom E. Olds invented the assembly line. Ford added conveyor belts to the idea which cut production time. My mistake, and thank you for correcting it. My main point, that Ford did not invent the automobile, still stands as true, though.

Elwenil4931d ago (Edited 4931d ago )

While American's did not invent the automobile, we certainly have cornered the market on modifying and building them. We "invented" street rods which was pretty much the beginning of all high performance modifications for the average guy. Here in the US we race everything. Rock crawlers, economy cars, trucks, lawn mowers, farm tractors, you name it. In the South, you get your first NASCAR T-shirt before you can walk. While it may be true that Americans that live in big cities do not care about cars, damn near everyone else does. I'm 36 years old and I've owned or co-owned over 50 cars and trucks, mostly Mopar muscle cars. Just about everyone I know has some sort of vehicle they have customized or added power to in some way. The idea that Americans don't know about cars is beyond foolish and borders on retarded.

Disagrees? You are only proving your own ignorance.

SoapShoes4931d ago

@Qui-Gon:

Ford did not invent the assembly line... Oldsmobile did. "The 1901 to 1904 Curved Dash was the first mass-produced car, made from the first automotive assembly line, an invention that is often miscredited to Henry Ford and the Ford Motor Company."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

SoapShoes4931d ago (Edited 4931d ago )

@Qui-Gon... I worded that incorrectly and it won't let me edit it. Basically Oldsmobile was the first to use an assembly line for cars but Ford improved on the idea by using conveyor belts.

*Edit* Just noticed your edit. :) Anyway I was impressed when I first learned that about Olds.

http://www.ideafinder.com/h...

Yi-Long4931d ago

... but it could absolutely affect MY decision to buy it or not. I'm waiting for the reviews.

ShinMaster4931d ago (Edited 4931d ago )

All GT fans are still buying the game regardless.

We've been buying these games for years. Reviews aren't gonna stop anyone.

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Chuk54931d ago

Review scores for a game this big will defiantly affect it sales. If scores are disappointing, the sales will reflect. People don't want to buy a game knowing it's not good. Not everyone has money to uninformed-idly throw at anything.

deadreckoning6664931d ago (Edited 4931d ago )

True...Red Dead Redemption is a perfect example of a game benefiting GREATLY from excellent reviews. GT's fanbase, while not as big as in the PS2's golden age, will buy the game regardless of reviews. But as far as new players are concerned, good reviews are always a plus.

"Americans are very shallow and dont have good taste. Its why the Wii is the best selling console, why Halo reach is the best selling game here, why Sarah Palin has her own reality show and so on."

HelghastDrake, you underestimate your American breatheren. Just because Sarah Palin has her own reality show doesn't mean people watch it. And you say people are "dumb" for enjoying Halo Reach...yet you want people to respect you for enjoying GT5?

LOL, what hypocrite.

Arksine4931d ago

Reviews wont affect franchises like Gran Turismo, Halo, CoD, etc. These games have massive followings, and they do not give a damn what someone else's opinion is.

Review scores are fanboy fodder. IMO, reviews shouldn't even be scored. Maybe then people would pay attention to what is important, which is the content of a review. Anyone who relies on scores to tell them where to spend their "hard earned money" are the ones idly throwing it away.

iPad4931d ago (Edited 4931d ago )

Sorry but CAPS-LOCK is needed.

REVIEWERS AREN'T GRAN TURISMO VETERANS. THE FANBASE OF GRAN TURISMO ARE GONNA PLAY THIS GAME FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. GT'S FANBASE ONLY KNOW WHAT GRAN TURISMO REALLY IS.

YOU CAN'T EXPERIENCE THE TRUE POWER OF GRAN TURISMO IF YOU PLAY IT FOR WEEKS AND THEN REVIEW IT.

IF YOU'RE NEW TO THE GRAN TURISMO SERIES, YOU SHOULD ASK A GT FAN FOR A REVIEW WHOSE BEEN THERE SINCE THE BEGINNING.

T9X694931d ago (Edited 4931d ago )

@Sackdude - Sale don't = fans. You could sell 100 million copies of a game, doesn't mean all 100 million are fans of it.

ShinMaster4931d ago

You're so right. There could be MORE than 100 million fans, since some people buy games used.

Haha :D

SoapShoes4931d ago

No it can't because Prologue got trashed often for being "the same old same old" and lack of content, but it still sold 5 million.

thematrix12984931d ago

America invented == Nuclear bomb, and bunch of warfare accessories

Sackdude4931d ago

"America invented == Nuclear bomb"

American didn't even invented Nuclear bomb, German invented Nuclear bomb...

UnwanteDreamz4931d ago

"American didn't even invented Nuclear bomb, German invented Nuclear bomb..."

Just like the above descussion on who invented the automobile, the truth is far more complicated then people make it out to be. here a quick history lesson compliments of google. I thought since you like correcting people you will appreciate this.

Ernest Rutherford, in 1919, was the first to split an atom, though it was nitrogen, and thus there was no power generation or explosion. In 1932 Sir John Cockcroft and Ernest Walton were the first to cause a nuclear reaction by the fission of an atom. Enrico Fermi, however was the first to fission uranium, in 1932, though at the time he did not fully appreciate the consequences of this discovery. Otto Robery Frisch and Lise Meitner were the first to realize the potential energy produced by the fission of uranium, however, and in a latter experiment, Frisch proved the theory.
The first person to ever realize its potential as a weapon, though, was the Hungarian physicist Leo Szilard, who realized, after experimentation, that the amount of neutrons released by the fission of uranium (two on average) could produce a nuclear chain reaction, which could lead to a massive explosion. Fearing the use of this reaction as a weapon by a facist government, however, Szilard kept his discovery secret, and convinced others to do the same, but the Joliot Curie group published the exact same results, coming to the same conlusion as Szilard.
However, the man who is generaly regarded as the "father of the A-bomb" is J. Robert Oppenheimer, who led the Manhattan Project in the United States, which produced the first ever nuclear weapon.
However, H.G. Wells was the first to envision a nuclear weapon driven by nuclear fission, when he wrote of "air dropped 'atomic bombs'" in his 1914 novel, The World Set Free. At the time, Wells did not know of the destructive power the such weapons would one day harness. Leo Szilard latter said that this novel had been the inspiration for his research on nuclear fission.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/W...

thematrix12984931d ago

@ UnwanteDreamz
Yes I've learned Rutherford's model in chemistry and converting mass into energy in physics[Einstein's equation]. But the fact remains America successfully tested and used nuclear weapon first.

Bordel_19004931d ago (Edited 4931d ago )

@Elwenil

I agree with you, but also it's kinda well known how much FPS games sell in the US, so American's fall over them selves to play shooters, racers not so much.

I'm not saying either is good or bad, or that other games don't sell in the US, it's just the way it is now.

djfullshred4931d ago (Edited 4931d ago )

You are seriously tripping. America is a car culture country. Henry Ford revolutionized the industry, so just about anybody could afford an automobile. People in the USA started hot rodding & racing cars shortly afterwards, and have never looked back since. Just two blocks from where I live is a county fairgorund where they hold several car shows each year, each show bringing 3,000-4,000 cars to show.

MastaMold4931d ago (Edited 4931d ago )

Past GT games sold a lot so no reviews will not affect

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Lifendz4931d ago (Edited 4931d ago )

For the fans that have actually waited for this game the entire five years: No.

For people like me that are just curious to see what five years of dev will produce: No.

For the guy/gal that's happy with Forza and is somewhat indifferent to GT5 at this point: Maybe.

Regardless,Sony still has a mega hit on its hands.

mp12894931d ago

http://www.vgchartz.com/wor...

EMEAA - Europe Mid East Africa Asia

Besides we are here because we love the series not to say who is more loyal.

zeddy4931d ago

the only review i want to read is that of gtplanets im sure they'll flush out the good and bad.

Ducky4931d ago (Edited 4931d ago )

American reporting in. What on earth is this bloody 'car' you speak of?

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NYC_Gamer4931d ago (Edited 4931d ago )

reviews only matter to hardcore gamers...most people in the world dont even check scores

jrm1254931d ago

The only "reviews" I've seen are pseudo garbage reviews posted by inane blogs and unheard of editors.

There aren't any real negative reviews. And there likely won't be.

HelghastDrake4931d ago (Edited 4931d ago )

As an american he is completly right. Americans are very shallow and dont have good taste. Its why the Wii is the best selling console, why Halo reach is the best selling game here, why Sarah Palin has her own reality show and so on.

All Americans care about are millitary shooters and bright purple aliens, again im an American and have lived in America my whole life and i know firsthand how ignorant most Americans are.

I dont mean to get political but here is a perfect example. Before the mid term elections a CNN poll came out, it asked the respondents "Who is most to blame for the problems in the US?" 65% said republicans are.

In that same poll they also asked "Who do you trust more to FIX the problems of the US" well the same 65% said republicans. Now my fellow Americans, can you blame other countries when they look down at us?

I mean what do we have? Halo, Jersey Shore and dancing with the stars.

Chaos Striker4931d ago (Edited 4931d ago )

You should clarify as saying "the americans that I interact with/know" rather than denoting all americans. I am a US citizen and I don't share the perception that you are stereotyping.

Arksine4931d ago

Oh please. We aren't all that shallow. And using a CNN poll to back up your statement? All I can do is LOL. They are the antithisis of Fox News. Completely slanted to the left.

Sure, shooters are the most popular genre in America (and probably Europe too), but its not as if Americans don't buy other games. Final Fantasy took off in large part due to its popularity in the west. Gran Turismo will do fine in the US.

Silly gameAr4931d ago

Ouch man, ouch. That cut me deeply.

Elwenil4931d ago (Edited 4931d ago )

WTF is with these people? I can sort of understand some guy from outside the US that only sees movies and news getting American's all wrong but you have to live in a hole in the US to not get what is going on all around you. It's either we all spit a lot and drive pickup trucks or we just like to shoot a lot. Never mind the drag racing, NASCAR, Dodge Vipers, Chargers, Challengers, Plymouth 'Cudas, Road runners, Chebby Corvettes, Camaros, Chevelles, Ford Mustangs, Cobras, the huge aftermarket industry that supports all those Americans that build and race their vehicles or customize them in some way. Ever heard of SEMA? That's probably one of the biggest yearly conventions in the US.

As for the political jabs, only an asshole would even try to compare politics to who likes a game. That's what is shallow. Maybe HelghastDrake is looking in the mirror too much and forcing his own image on the rest of us. HelghastDrake, you really need to pull your head out of your ass and take a look at what the real world is like. And I don't care what politics you follow either, bringing that into a video game discussion simply makes no sense. It's almost like you have been looking for a place to make some sort of argument about this and just stuck it in here, in a GT5 discussion. Ignorance.

@Jdktech2010,

Who is bashing the US? I certainly am not. I am a very proud American and was only bashing HelghastDrake's inappropriate use of political jabs in a gaming commentary. Sure, he has the freedom to do it, but that doesn't make it the smart thing to do. As for my "theory", I don't recall stating anything of the sort. I never said everyone in the US loves cars and hates shooters, RPGs and sports games. Technically, racing is a sport. So now who is ignorant again? I'll say the same to you, pull your head out of your ass and stop trying to put labels on everything and twist other's comments into somethign you see as distasteful.

jdktech20104931d ago

Well, we happen to have freedom....

Which in fact allows all of the things you mentioned to take place, as well as the ability for you to state your opinion like you just did and also the ability for me to say get outside and see more the country to find out the only ignorant one right now is you....I like shooters, RPGs and sports games. That pretty much smacks your "theory" out of the water, now doesn't it?

Go ahead and bash the US by using the freedom it provides....oh, and if you aren't proud of America, feel free to leave at any time

One last thing....the reason Sarah Palin has a show (didn't even know she did) is because she makes a fool out of herself every time she talks and somewhere the media people thought it was a good idea.....go figure

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Sony CEO says although AI "has been used for creation," it's "not a substitute for human creativity"

"AI is not a substitute for human creativity. We position it as a technology that supports creativity. Creativity resides in people. We will continue to contribute to people's creativity through technology," the CEO said.

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1nsomniac1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

...not yet but 100% within the next 10 years!

..Then Sony will use it like the drop of a hat. They're no different to the others.

isarai1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

They used to be 😞 sure it was always a business, and money's always the priority, but they used to have a very strong stance on supporting artists and creativity. "Dont f#@k with the artist" was a phrase they touted a few times back in the ps1-ps3 era, a philosophy carried over from their music branch PlayStation was created from. It's not COMPLETELY gone, but it's barely there compared to what it was back then, i just want them to return to that.

Eonjay4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

I am highly encouraged by their statement about human creativity. "Dont f#@k with the artist" is exactly what they are saying. But at the same time, I don't think people understand that Sony is a corporation. If they don't realize growth, they don't get to exist. When you say 'Sony', you are talking about a bunch of investors. To speak about them any other way is a illogical and incorrect. They haven't changed. They have been a group of investors since they became a public business.

isarai16h ago

Ugh, i really wish people would stop gambling people's livelihoods by turning a project/game into their political soapbox. Im all for statements and having your own opinion, but there's more people working on this than just druckman, ham fisting your political beliefs onto just seems inconsiderate for everyone elses job security when it can result in a failure due to people avoiding it for that reason.

I play games for escape, im so tired of nearly every AAA game blatantly dragging real world issues to shove in my face when I'm trying to take a break from it all. They don't even bother to be subtle about it, quite the opposite, it's blasted and force fed to you and it's just getting exhausting

Einhander19727h ago

People are taking a whole interview and cutting it down to clips that make him look bad and take what he actually was saying out of context. For example he also said things like this AI has "ethical issues we need to address"

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@Einhander

Why defend him at this point?

It’s not taking things out of context, he said what he said.

Old ND would never talk about soulless AI taking over so many creative things they are well known for. The whole “ethical issues” is just a good PR spin people who push this crap fall back on to make their statements not seem as bad. So many AI lovers do this.

AI has no place is so many creative based things.

Einhander19727h ago

Well yeah, because everyone else is using it so they need to stay competitive. It's the same as paid online, they didn't want to go that route but their competition was making so much money they needed to add paid online just to keep up.

RaiderNation4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

AI will never replace humans in game development in terms of conceptualizing new games. Humans still need to come up with the ideas and what they want to implement. However much of the day to day menial coding could be AI driven to reduce production time and team size. I could also see AI being used for bug testing/optimization that could lead to better quality games at launch. I'm actually very optimistic about how AI can positively impact game development.

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XiNatsuDragnel1d ago

Good statement but hopefully this holds up

NotoriousWhiz5h ago

People that aren't software developers just don't understand the benefits of AI. People who's only exposure to A.I is the Terminator movie and other related sci fi films won't understand the benefits it provides.

It's not about replacing human labor. It's about making human labor easier.

Many years ago, I had laser eye surgery done. It was performed by a robot. The doctor took my measurements and calibrated the machine to make sure it would do what needed be done. And then the robot corrected my vision in 10 seconds.

15 years later and I still have 20/20 vision.

Eonjay5h ago

AI in and of itself is not a 'bad'. Money is bad. Money is evil, and corporations will do whatever they can to get more of it. They will find ways to implement AI to replace as may jobs as possible. This isn't even up for debate. It is the charge of the corporation to maximize returns for the investors. They have no choice. I'm a developer and I know that my job will absolutely be replaced. Therefore, I have decided to become an AI dev. AI has a lot of potential to help us solve problem on a scale most can't even imagine. The issue, as ever is that our monetary system only ever allows us to focus on greed and fiscal growth.

But I am a pragmatist. Perhaps an AI model can be built to help protect us from our most dangerous instincts and habits. And perhaps Congress can pass laws to protect us from people who would use AI to manipulate and control us (spoiler: they wont).

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers29d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken28d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g29d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing29d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H929d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola29d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66929d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle29d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg29d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos29d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola29d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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