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Phone Call To Amazon: Lair/Folklore Fiasco Explanation

Here is a an excerpt of of Apollo - a PS3 Forum member's - phone conversation with them just a few minutes ago regarding the cancellation of the orders. He explained to them that we received an e-mail where Amazon checked and confirmed the prices of the two games and then said they'd honour those prices.

Here's their response to the sudden flip reversal in their promise.

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HeartlesskizZ6113d ago

I could not understand anything else but the suppliers, suppliers, suppliers.

Meus Renaissance6113d ago

He said it wasn't an item Amazon themselves stocked but Sony Computer Entertainment. They made the price..when Amazon checked the price in their systems, it checked out fine. 14.95, but as soon as the orders came in, SCEE realised the price mistake and immediately informed Amazon of this - they could do nothing but change the price and apologise to those who were ordered.

Basically, it's SCEE's fault. Where have we heard that before.

duarteq6113d ago

it seems that the amazon guy is somehow related to abdul from the simpsons. Can you put some subtitles ? lol

I agree with you. Can only listen suppliers, suppliers, suppliers

Meus Renaissance6113d ago

I'm Apollo from that forum, I was the one who made the call. He spoke to me and I understood him fine and I just told you what he said and you disagree with that? Lol.

s8anicslayer6113d ago

they should honor those prices!

Antan6113d ago

One word.............Squirm.

crippler6666113d ago

This is Amazon's fault, no other companies. They was going to honor it until they realized how many pre-orders had been made. I know they have lost my custom and hope that other people do the same.

Hellgiver6113d ago

I don't really understand how that would be the case. They would definitely expect such hugely hyped games that are so lowly priced to have a huge amount of preorders. They just didn't say anything because they saw hey'd get many preorders, and then when their "feet were held to the fire," they'd say they have no choice but to change the prices back, and many people will probably keep their preorders with them, rather than go through the hassle of canceling, since the customers would have to place new orders elsewhere and have to wait even longer after the release of the game in Europe to actually play it. Then again, maybe I am overthinking it and Amazon was just lazy in that area.

crippler6666113d ago

I meant as in if the figures of pre-orders had of been lower they probably would have honored them, because they was high, they are not going to.

BenzMoney6113d ago

First of all, this isn't news.

Second of all, you guys are being pathetic. Life isn't fair - deal with it.

HateBoy6113d ago (Edited 6113d ago )

Your a fakking retard. Spineless too. Thankfully not everybody is as weak and ball-absent as you, otherwise we'd all probably be speaking german right now. Fakk yourself. I hope that "bend over" attitude of yours leads to you actually taking it up the ass someday, roughly.

Amazon are disgusting, I will never (EVER) buy anything on that site again. Order is cancelled, I encourage others to do the same. Seeing as this apparently isn't illegal (shocking) thats pretty much all we can do to make a tiny difference.

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Remembering the Best JRPGs on the PS3

Get ready to embark on a journey filled with monsters, magic, and overpowered haircuts, because this list features the best JRPGs on the PS3.

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shinoff2183293d ago (Edited 292d ago )

There wasn't that many. Thanks to the west's criticism. It was definitely lacking compared to every other ps system. Dont get me wrong there were a few good ones i know that.

jznrpg292d ago

Nier, Valkyrie Chronciles, Tales games , Ni No Kuni, Resonance of Fate, FF13’s, Ys8 just a few off the top of my head and there were a lot more.

CrimsonWing69292d ago (Edited 292d ago )

Not nearly to the degree of PS1 and PS2.

@shinoff2183 makes a good point that around the PS3/Xbox 360 gen is when the genre wasn’t as prevalent and began to shy away from turn-based. There’s some standouts for sure, but look at the PS1 and PS2 JRPG library and then compare that to the PS3 and PS4’s.

Theres definitely a decline in a selection of titles. Even worse was the quality seemed to take a massive hit as well. I think Lost Odyssey was a huge standout for that gen when you look at production values, then you look at something like Fairy Fencer on the PS3 and it’s kind of depressing.

But by that generation there was a shift from western developed games overtaking Japanese developed games. Back from the NES to PS2 Japanese games were the cream of the crop… I don’t know what happened but like midway into the PS3/360 life-time they became less so.

shinoff2183292d ago (Edited 292d ago )

Compared to the ps1 ps2 and he'll even ps4 ps3 doesn't hold a candle to either imo. It's also when turn based damn near disappeared. Again thanks to the west's criticism

Crimson I'd put money on the west being at fault, guys like Phil phish, and numerous others at that time were attacking jrpg and Japanese games in general pretty hard.

Ni no kuni was probably my fav jrpg back then , and the blue dragon

GameBoyColor292d ago

Tales got kinda lucky here. When they took a chance and finally brought tales of graces f over west it sold like 250k lmao a lot of jrpgs did 500k or below. Disgaea was worse i think. Bamco decided to keep bringing more games over though.

Tapani292d ago (Edited 292d ago )

Demon's Souls, Dark Souls and Dark Souls II were the best RPGs on PS3 made by Japanese developers. Everything else just fell short always. Ni No Kuni was a full package, an okayish game as well. Nier and Drakengard III had superb writing, setting and voice acting, however, the performance was a real drag on the gameplay. Traditional RPG-wise I'd actually say 360 had better JRPGs, and think that Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon were the best traditional JRPGs of the era. PS3 Valkyria Chronicles was okay, but it is closer to an SRPG.

Ryu Ga Gotoku games were also solid, they were still finding their footing and breaking new ground with new cities and formats.

PS3 was the era that almost made me quit gaming and I started playing on PC because I could not find good performance nor games on the system. PS4 got me back into it, and now PS5 is a mix in and between, I just play my PS4 library on the PS5 and rest on PC, just like during the PS3 era. The only new exclusive Sony JRPG is pretty much FFXVI and it is so streamlined and simplified from the normal RPG experience that I can't fit it into the genre anymore. Dragon Quest XII hopefully remedies all of this, but it is just one game.

These new games will all be on PC (while it does take 2-3 years to wait, and 6-12 months from launch to have them patched + fixed by modders) and they perform better on it. The only point in owning a PS5 is to play games a couple of years earlier, but for a hard-working family man like me, the quality of the experience is more important than playing it as soon as possible. And I can't do modern games at 30fps 720p after playing 120fps at 4K. For older games, that's okay.

PSX and PS2 though, those were the days...Still have a massive collections of classic RPGs in CD and DVD format and a phat PS3 to play them!

FinalFantasyFanatic292d ago

It's kinda like that, the PS3 generation was a bad time for JRPGs, especially with the Japanese feeling the need to westernize their games, shooters dominating that gen, the racism from western game journalists (it was bad, between G4, Phill Fish, and a slew of others), and the higher development costs...

It really made me miss the PS1/PS2 days of JRPGs, even the quality of half of those games during the 7th gen weren't as good. The 360 tried, but Microsoft's consoles weren't popular in Japan and no body in the West bought a Xbox for JRPGs (despite Xbox having Vesperia, Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey).

on_line_forever292d ago

" It's kinda like that, the PS3 generation was a bad time for JRPGs, especially with the Japanese feeling the need to westernize their games "

This is when everything fall down and games looks not fun to play anymore except for few games like demon and dark souls for example

-Foxtrot292d ago (Edited 292d ago )

Nah. It's a bad trilogy of games

The only reason XIII-2 stands out is because XIII was so bad

When the bar is so low, anything after feels better.

goldwyncq292d ago

The monster catching mechanic was nice.

Eonjay292d ago

Don't understand the hate for it at all. Seems forced.

shinoff2183292d ago

Watching the credits roll on ff16 now it is good but , I'd really like to re try ff13 least it's turn based and would fill that gap for me.

FinalFantasyFanatic292d ago

They got better after the first one in the trilogy, not outstanding game though.

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CS7292d ago

Honestly, I played FFXIII a few years after release and maybe because it was after the hype cycle and I knew the flaws of the game, it actually became my favorite FF after VII.

I took off the mini map and never used auto battle and the stuff that mattered to me in an FF was just so well done.

The art and graphics were insane at the time
The music is still special
The story still lingers in memory more than a decade later
The RPG systems were decent

I never really got the hate for it, still have a soft spot for that game inside me.

goldwyncq292d ago

Still better than XV and XVI.

Yui_Suzumiya292d ago

Drakengard 3 goes for a small fortune nowadays

Knightofelemia292d ago (Edited 292d ago )

Only gripe I have with Ar Tonelico 3 is that Saki is annoying as hell whether English or in Japanese. Then Saki's English voice actor became Ionasal on Ar Nosurge she was a little annoying but not as bad. Johnny Young Bosch voicing Tatsumi I thought he did a great job. And Akiko Shikata with her vocals and the music from the games just went hand and hand.

DarkZane292d ago

I wish Ar No Surge and Ar Tonelico 3 would be remastered on PS4/PS5.

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Jiub849d ago

Legend of Dragoon was amazing

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These PS3 Games are Going to get Really Expensive

Could you get rich by investing in PS3 games? Almost definitely not. Can you make a few bucks by flipping PS3 games over the years? Yeah, sure! It wouldn’t even be that difficult. But let’s face it: Once these games are in your collection, you’re probably keeping them forever.

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CDbiggen989d ago

There's a reason I didn't buy most of these when they came out.

MadLad988d ago

After a game's multiple generations old, and can't be had new at a reasonable price, that's when I see nothing wrong with emulation.

What's the point of paying someone scalper prices when the dev/publisher isn't even benefiting from it?

mkis007988d ago

Emulation doesn't stop a games physical box from becoming collectible.

Knightofelemia988d ago

I paid $30 for SH Downpour on PS3 now it's around $70-$85 Canadian Lolipop Chainsaw I paid $15 and it has really gone up in price. I wonder if Transformers War and Fall of Cybertron will go up in price two of the best Transformers games every made.

neutralgamer1992988d ago

In 5 years time all those games will be worth at least $150 to $200 that you listed

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neutralgamer1992988d ago

Ever since Sony announced that they would shut down PS3 store these prices have skyrocketed and even though Sony backtracked now most gamers realize that it's a matter of time before the PlayStation 3 store is shut down. If you want these games get them while you can even if digital because once that story shut down the physical prices will just go crazy high we saw that already

And many of these games did not sell like crazy amounts so they are limited number of copies available for sale at any given time

MadLad988d ago

Folklore is a game I've always really wanted to play, but I got a PS3 late in the generation, and it was already really expensive to find, being it didn't exactly sell well, therefore was already kind of a collector's item.

Kept hoping I'd find a cheap copy randomly at stores and flea markets, but never happened.

franwex988d ago

I got mine for $5 at Walmart like 10 years ago. I have yet to play it.

neutralgamer1992988d ago

It was available at GameStop for a while for under $20. Don't know har happened but GameStop started to sell their used games based on ebay prices it seems

You can still find it for around $60-70 and which in my opinion is a good price for a game that will be worth double if not triple that in next 5 years

Mr Logic988d ago

Have you considered modding your PS3? Neither Sony or the dev would be getting money from that Folklore purchase. Kind of a victimless crime at that point.

MadLad988d ago (Edited 988d ago )

@neutral

Honestly, I just want to actually give the experience a try. I'm not someone who would buy it at a premium just to potentially rip someone off down the road.
I mean, there are collectors out there and if paying a couple hundred dollars is worth it to them then more power to them, but I'm not one to be on either end of that exchange.

I know it's taboo, but I might dig in and see the state of PS3 emulation on PC. I have a good PC, so it might be able to power through the often times poor performance, being PS3 is known to be hard to emulate.

I've never emulated anything past the PS2/Dreamcast but, as I said in my first post, I don't see anything wrong with emulation if the game you want to play can only be had used, with no money going to the creators.

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