Why Sonic Fan Remix Puts Sega To Shame

X360 reveals how Sonic 4: Episode One only spent a week as Sonic’s greatest 2.5D update…

[Yi-Long]

Sega should definitely be ashamed. Basically 1 guy did what Sega has failed to do for many years now: delivering a great looking and awesome playing Sonic game!

THIS is how we want to see and enjoy Sonic. THIS would be worth 1200 MPS. THIS should be the way Sonic 2D platformers SHOULD be done.

Its such a shame that Sega is so incredibly clueless when it comes to giving their fans what they want.

The company has shown incompetence time and time and time again, while they have all the talent and opportunities to do so much better!

Sega: Please hire this guy! Put him in charge of any future Sonic 2D game, either remakes or new ones.

I'd buy a whole new Sega console if it would launch with games like this!

[mcmmaster]

it wasn't one guy, go complete the demo then see how many people are exactly working on this

I do agree with the rest of your points, I aint even going to pay shit for sonic 4, 1200 points, and its coming out in episodes, the first had 4 zones, man fuck that shit, they should just release sonic 4 on 1 big disc with 10-20 zones, people would buy that, no one is going to buy episodes that are just a waste of money

[Yi-Long]

... he had help from a couple of other people, but the whole thing started with pretty much 1 guy doing this whole thing, and then he got some extra help where needed.

I did finish the demo btw so I saw the credits.

I agree with you on agreeing with me on my other points though. Well done! :P

[wwm0nkey]

Actually it was 2 guys, the other people mentioned didnt do coding or ect.

[Redempteur]

@Yi-Long
actually i agree with you agreeing to him agreeing to you

[Theonik]

I loved the demo on all aspects except visuals i find them to be terribly ugly and it's hard to even see the enemies most of the time with the way they blend in the environment. Add that to going fast and you have a problem. They nailed everything else though.

[SKUD]

For the love of all that is holy retire the damn hedge hog. No current game developer will make a proper Sonic game. Ever IMO. The series as little or no dignity left. Poor hedge hog.

[condorstrike]

this guy deserves his own company, or get hired by 1, he's much more talented than whole teams, well him and his crew.

I was so impressed I had to spread the word, now imagine what he can do with "METROID"..........: )

[Xander-RKoS]

Remaking a 20 year old game makes these guys better than a whole team? What can he do with Metroid? Remake it? Not saying this isn't cool, but I think we should be giving these guys credit where credit is due: the remade an already awesome game and gave it a new, incredible art style.

But making new things is always harder than redoing old.

[Swiftfox]

Sega may be ashamed, but at least they didn't slap these guys with a Cease and Disist order.

[skatezero246]

o_0 sega should be ashamed, Sega needs to hire this guy because he knows exactly what Sonic fans want enough of the crappy 3d sonics

[syrion]

lol sega, as a big game company sega should be ashamed by this guy....
sonic fan remix >>>>>>>&a mp;g t; sonic 4 hahahahahahahaha......

[gumgum99]

To be fair, development of Sonic 4 was done by Dimps. Not Sega and Sonic Team.

[Yi-Long]

... Sega and Sonic Team clearly haven't really cared about Sonic for many years now, mostly seeing it as an easy cashcow instead of it being their trademark game and mascotte.

If 1-2 guys can already deliver this kind of AMAZING quality, which has the whole internet community buzzing, mostly extremely positive, then it's just incredible that a huge studio/organisation like Sega hasn't been able all these years to bring us a Sonic game/remake of similar quality!

[Shadow Flare]

The worst thing about sonic 4 by far is sonics movements. That's why sega deserves all the flak it's getting. 16 years and they completely screwed up his physics, and this fan remix got his physics spot on. It's incredible how sega thought it was ok to put sonic 4 out like that. And when you compare the 2 games graphics, the fan remix makes sonic 4 look like a basic cartoon mess. Just look at the differences between the grass. And finally the music. The fan remix did the music perfectly, modernised it but still had awesome tunes. Sonic 4 sounds like every song is played with a casio keyboard on a pre-set beat with an old lady jamming away on a seaside organ. Compressed into a midi file. It makes my ears bleed. The boss music is the worst

[Theonik]

Which is why Sonic 4 is more like Sonic Rush.
Can't blame Sega though. Most of the Sonic team's original members are not working for Sega anymore.

[denero1]

they will most likely sue the socks off this guy :(

[R0l3]

if he was selling it, they would.

[tunaks1]

this and Colors look great,
but I dont get the hate Sonic 4 was good, you people are never satisfied.

[wwm0nkey]

It just wasnt sonic, the physics where all wrong and auto-lock on and enemy bridges are a bunch of bull shit.

[tunaks1]

the lock on isnt a big deal and though sonic feels heavier this is the first episode so there is room for improvement.

Anyone remember the Chrono trigger fan game? This will meet the same fate if sega thinks it will affect S4's sales.

[Shadow Flare]

The autolock IS bs because it makes the game so easy. The bosses are so easy with autolock. And I bet they won't fix sonics physics in episode 2

[Yi-Long]

.. if they hadn't messed up the gameplay/physics, and hadn't decided they're gonna milk it by releasing it as an 'episodic' game, instead of just a normal sized Sonic game.

I wouldn't have minded waiting 12 more months on order for them to get a proper Sonic 4 out of the door, instead of just the first 'episode', and they shouldn't have fucked up the gameplay.

Also, the Sonic-sprite in Sonic 4 looks like he's on crack instead of on speed. So thin. And 1200 points for episodic content!?

Give me this fan's remix any day of the rest of my life, instead of Sega failings.

[MEsoJD]

is what I want in my sonic games. I enjoyed Sonic 4, but this was orgasmic!!!

Whens the full version coming out?

[Orionsangel]

Well for one, listen to the score of the third level. The music changes with a melodic sounding melody that's pleasant to the ears. Old school baby! Game music should be like Beatles music, melodic and ever changing, not repeating the same melody over and over again. Yeah I'm talking to you Sonic bore! I mean 4!

[Orionsangel]

SEGA hire these guys! Let's get some amazing Sonic games out there. The fans know what makes a great Sonic game. Sonic Team doesn't and it's obvious that they're out of touch!

[Xander-RKoS]

Keep in mind people that the thing that made old school Sonic game's fun was the level design...and from what I've seen, this is pretty much a direct lift of that game....with a radically different art style. I don't see how they can really put Sega to shame when they essentially copied a 20 year old game.

[Baka-akaB]

thing is Sega is almost remaking the same sonic games with worse gameplay , so yeah they should be ashamed . While this project is fanmade .

i never was happy with sonic 4 and jumped on the bandwagon . Why ? because when a big company like sega is remaking the same thing over , the realisation at least , if you aint innovating with the gameplay , should be top notch and far better than sonic 1-3 hd with a tad messed gameplay .

Another culprit of that is Capcom with Megaman 9-10 . If you wanna go 2d and retro fine , but you could at least offer some gorgeous 2d or 2.5d graphics , like the one you can see in a few games like say muramasa , only hd , or blazblue ... , bionic commando rearmed , or the upcoming contra game .

No instead they prey on people's nostalgia with the full might and support of the press , with other people drinking the koolaid at a cheap price that isnt even truly that cheap .

[Xander-RKoS]

Well, whether or not you think it was a good idea for Capcom to use bit style graphics for the old school type Megaman games is your opinion. I personally think it was a real gutsy move and really wanted to demonstrate that a good game does not need good graphics and what you call "preying" others might call "giving people what they want".

The real point though is that this demo is a remake of a 20 year old game. What is innovative about it? The art style? Sure but the gameplay and the level design is practically lifted straight up from from the original.

Also, what are people saying Sega should hire these guys to do? Art. I would say definitely, but aside from that, everything else is kinda directly taken from what the original designers put in. The level design, the mechanics, etc.

As for the quality of Sonic 4, it's actually pretty fun with some different design choices. Everything about the game is at least new to the 2-D Sonic series and whether or not its good compared to the older Sonic games is an opinion, not a fact.

[Redempteur]

@Xander-RKoS

what's wrong with 2d style games in 2D HD ?
is it really that hard to do ?

what prevented them to keep the same gameplay and to update the graphics ? i agree Above ..retrostyle is useless.

Case in point: sonic ... NOBODY would want to play a sonic in 2D gamegear graphics style yet for megaman 9 it was suddenly a "good " idea

[Baka-akaB]

@Xander-RKoS

Gusty ? what's gutsy about not spending much money and cashing on far more on xbl/psn ?

It's again easy to prey on nostalgia .

You didnt even get my point entirely . The game could have had the retro design , with gorgeous 2d or 2.5d hd graphics . It's not like i spoke of changing a design like with megaman x .

The artsyle chosen and the graphic engine arent really one and the same thing .

[foker]

Yes,.. fanmade remix,..is just incredible !! And I am not even a Sonic fan,.. but it is oldschool Sonic,..

and It is beautiful ,.. maybe even to good looking,..

This guys should be hired or Sega should give them Sonic license and some $$ help ,..

[kevin360uk]

Happy i never bought into Sonic 4 cause the demo was enough to realise its lack of quality. When you see Sega do an average remake of its classic Sonic gameplay, it should be time they put the hedgehog to sleep

[tigertron]

I was pleasantly surprised with this demo, but I have yet to play Sonic 4 so I can't compare the two, but Sega should definatly hire this guy to work for Sonic Team.

[TABSF]

Sega has really slipped by the looks of it

Not been much of a fan anyway

[wwm0nkey]

You know Sega still hasnt ordered a C&D order, granted they took the downloads down but never said to stop making the game. I hope SEGA is considering hiring this guy and release this as a full title, I would happily pay $15 for THIS Sonic

[foker]

Id pay 40,.. or even full retail,.. if they back them up ,.. and make full sonic game and polish the shit out of it,..