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PlayStation Move is an abject failure

Play-mag: "If new hardware can only manage one million sales in a 30-day period, it’s clearly doomed to failure. Clearly. The internet told us so."

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ClownBelt4976d ago

Read the article before reporting. It's stating the very state of the internet not just N4G mind you...

Agent-864976d ago

Ya, it's more of a satire piece that uses a provocative title to throw you off. However, some people just have a hard time getting it and will just comment based on the title.

360nPS3rTheSAME4976d ago

that's truth. If they stick to sports champion type casual games then that'll be good. It WILL fail in the hardcore department tho. As I've said I love my move but playing a hardcore game with it.....dont make me lol. Trends and motion controls don't make me dumb and blind

Ju4976d ago

No, they don't. You already are, it seams.

Bobbykotickrulesz4976d ago (Edited 4976d ago )

seams?

lol better stitch up those seems, guys.

Sarcasm4976d ago

I, Sarcasm, hereby approve this article.

hot4play4976d ago (Edited 4976d ago )

"Provocative title" as in DESPERATE FOR HITS.
Obviously an article to counter the "Kinect Red Flag" article.

From the article: "This is an abject failure, naturally."

Author is highfaluting much?

And to add to that:

"I missed the European sales figures, but they only add 1.5 million to the overall number so it’s clearly nothing important. "

1.5 million is not important??

A highly opinionated piece downplaying Move's success just in time for Kinect's launch. Article fail. :)

*Or am I missing the point of the whole article? It's hard to tell nowadays with these "journalists." :)

AfroMan6234976d ago

"One million units is a failure, because some people on the internet said so... Get a grip, internet."

If that doesn't tell you its satire... well... I just don't know anymore :(

Syronicus4976d ago

The sarcasm that is. This is by far one of the best bits of hardware out there and it will have legs and sell very well over the upcoming months. Anybody that says otherwise is an idiot.

Anon19744976d ago

I'm really surprised at those who just read the title and then start ranting. Read the article. It's sarcastic and in no way thinks that Move is a failure, quite the opposite.

hot4play4975d ago

Oh...I see....damn that was STUPID of me...got it. XD
(shrinks in embarrassment...)

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visualb4976d ago

satyrical but not over done, and very true

" One million units is a failure, because some people on the internet said so. One million units is a failure, because we all know things are incapable of sustaining – god forbid increasing – sales over a number of years. "

lol =P

Ilikegames764976d ago (Edited 4976d ago )

who started it.
"This game didn't sold 4 million day one, clearly it's a flop".
"This game console is in last place, it's doom".

Rainstorm814976d ago (Edited 4976d ago )

+Bubbles Ilikegames

Very true a certain group of people deemed 4+ mil in sales or a flop and now gaming has changed.

LAst Gen so many Great games released to avg sales yet were fantastic titles.

ICo, Shadow of the Colossus, GOW 1 - 2 (yes GOW was not a ps2 system seller), Okami, Viewtiful Joe, The Mark of Kri, Jade Empire, and Rouge Galaxy just to name a few.....

Everygame wont be a sales monster like GTA , GT, or Halo

tacosRcool4975d ago

Most games are over hyped to sell like crazy, as only a select few get over hyped really crazy and makes people buy the game or they'll be left out of the crowd

Graey4976d ago

I was wondering what you thought of MAG. Would you classify that as a Hardcore game. Not bashing just interested in what you consider a HCG to be. Also could you give me an example of what you would consider a HCG.

*HCG=Hard Core Game

BrutallyBlunt4976d ago

It really is a quick reference guide to how terrible the media plays into all of this. Many gamers read the headlines now and that's it. Many also just skip right to the score of a game review and that's it. They neglect the smaller details and instead get consumed with all of this pessimism and become that way themselves. It's like a pendulum that keeps swinging based on getting reactions.

bviperz4975d ago

State of the internet brought on by Microsoft. Always touting sales, sales, sales and using more money for advertising than research, development and smart investments. All so they can take your money and tout sales, sales, sales. It's a vicious cycle.

Eddie201014975d ago

The article is total sarcasm and is basically mocking the internet idiots that try to spin the moves success into a failure.

It's pretty easy to see that this is sarcasm just by reading the article but in case you are not smart enough to see that, read the tag at the bottom of the article just before the comments section. Also note that this site is a PS3 fan site.

Moonboots4975d ago

Hot4Play: Nah, you mis-read is mean to be satire and full of sarcasm. Unfortunately, the Kinect Red Flag garbage was very real and of course taken as gospel which is the same thing this is poking fun at regarding Move.

So really, it's a bunch of hypocrisy...

I agree the bashing is stupid but then if I said this in another motion control article I don't think the response would be the same.

FamilyGuy4975d ago

The sarcasm levels...

THEY'RE OVER 9000!!!

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a08andan4976d ago

I lol'd a little :D Funny piece and the same time so very spot on :P

jjmustoe4976d ago

its 2.5 Million not 1 Million

visualb4976d ago

thus, many US centric articles.

starvinbull4976d ago

The way that games are reported on is vastly different in the world as a whole compared to just the USA. The 1,000,000 figure is a great example as is the assertion that the 360 is selling vastly more than the PS3 month in month out.

The Wood4976d ago (Edited 4976d ago )

The internet tells us a lot of stuff...has been since this gen started especially against 'them' if you know what i mean. The worst thing about the fud is that Move actually works, very well in fact and has a wider range of game types covered than any other motion control. The fud wont stop reality. We'll just sit and laugh at the pushers. Fud/Hype no matter what console or peripheral its aimed at doesnt change reality. Move is selling just fine but MORE IMPORTANTLY it WORKS VERY WELL..

tinybigman4976d ago

That im wise enough not to believe anything, everything I read on the net; and that I can use my own brain to see that 2.5 mil sold is a pretty damn good start.

I don't want to hear about this shipped crap I paid off my preorder and the only piece I could take home was the Nav because the Moves are sold out. The north american region is pretty large so making sure it was evenly distributed so even places like small towns got in on the action. So no I don't want to hear about they have them in the warehouses.

DanSolo4976d ago

Yeah that pretty much sums up the dumb attitudes of so many people these days!

Good article!

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Air Conflicts: Secret Wars - PlayStation Move's Best Kept Secret

Air Conflicts: Secret Wars debuted in 2011, and later updated for modern consoles. However, it's the PlayStation 3 edition that stands out.

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Why the PlayStation Move Failed

Sony's PlayStation Move may not have been able to contend with Nintendo's Wii, but it paved the way for PlayStation VR's success story.

SullysCigar997d ago

I use them most days and have for years 🤷🏻‍♂️

They're definitely way past a needed update, but I've got a tonne of fun out of them, so they haven't failed me.

bouzebbal997d ago

The best motion control platform it's so intuitive.. Died due to lack of support from Sony.. It had some amazing games

thorstein997d ago

They are used constantly for PSVR games. So, no they haven't failed. Neither has PSVR (or VR in general.)

Bigman4k997d ago (Edited 997d ago )

The article was talking about why it ps move failed before psvr came along

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH998d ago

It failed because it sucked plain and simple.

LOGICWINS998d ago

I feel that's a bit harsh. To this day, playing Killzone 3's campaign with PS Move/Sharpshooter gun combo is the most fun/immersive experience I've ever had with an FPS.

I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be, but it didn't "suck".

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH998d ago

It most definitely sucked. You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible. The entire motion control fad was a waste of resources and time. Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it...

Minute Man 721998d ago

@SPEAK

The Move was better that the Wii mote. If the Wii was anywhere accurate as the Move was you could say the Wii was better. Sure it sold boatloads but was it really played consistently??

yeahokwhatever998d ago

I played it in 3D with the move gun on a 100 inch projector and it BLEW MY MIND. I was exhausted, but i finished the campaign standing there.

SullysCigar997d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming"

Just no. Games release most weeks (for years now) that support Move controllers. Some ONLY use Move controllers.

Look, I get you're not a fan, but if you're going to rant, at least inform yourself in advance.

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LordoftheCritics998d ago

I would say both Move and Kinect weren't supported properly.

Sony and MS abandoned what could have been amazing.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH998d ago

Kinect sucked too. I would say Kinect may have been cool had it worked as intended but it was ahead of it's time. Both Kinect and Move are gimmicks nothing more. I honestly don't see why Sony still implements "motion controls" recent controllers. Who really uses that crap? And to play what?

Profchaos998d ago

I so t think Sony abandoned the move it's technically repurposed and still supported on the ps5 just for VR

RedDevils998d ago

Kinect should be kept as media interactive features.

LordoftheCritics998d ago (Edited 998d ago )

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH
Again if it was supported right.

Where even a fast click of my fingers could get an immediate in game response.

It feels trash because we have been shown or lived with bad versions of gesture based tech. Think Minority Report fast. That could be something.

''You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible.''

No one is acting like it was special, I said it could be amazing.

''I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be''

Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game and then we can discuss profits.

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SPEAKxTHExTRUTH998d ago

I don't deal in "what if". It wasn't supported right and even if it was it was still a gimmick.

thorstein997d ago

"Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game"

You just described every AAA PSVR game. And even the indies have incredible integration. No Man's Sky VR is insanely good.

Silly gameAr998d ago

And, you can act like it was horrible, but I had a blast with my Move. I had the whole collection of House of the Dead, Dead Space Extraction, and RE Darkside Cronicles, The Fight, and Socom 4, and I would play the hell out of those games I even beat a playthrough of the Resistance 3 campaign with the Move. Getting drunk and playing with friends was a freaking blast.

You can pretend that you had a move and played it all you want SPeak the Truth, but it was accurate, and usually on point. I hate when people act like they've played something just to trash it, when they really just have a vendetta, and think the Move is easy prey for your hate.

Minute Man 721998d ago

Wait you can play Dead Space with the Move?? I need it

Orchard998d ago

“You can pretend that you had a move”

I love this crazy idea that if someone has something bad to say about hardware/software - they must be lying about owning it and clearly do not own it!

Because all hardware and software has a 100% approval rating from all purchasers…

P_Bomb998d ago (Edited 998d ago )

Shoot I forgot about Dead Space Extraction and Umbrella Chronicles. Had those too. Still do (digital).

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH998d ago

I have a vendetta against Move? Lmao that's the most ridiculous comment I've read today. I didn't buy it because like I said motion controls are gimmicks. I had a Wii and it was decent enough but a gimmick although successful. I had a Kinect and it too was trash. Don't act as if you know what I have and haven't owned. Move was nothing more than a Wiimote ripoff

yeahokwhatever998d ago

SO MANY really great experiences for the Move. The Fight was excellent!

Silly gameAr997d ago (Edited 997d ago )

@Minute Man

There was a game called Dead Space Extraction that you could play the Move with.

@Orchard. Please don't reply to me, because every time I say something to you, I magically end up restricted. So, just ignore me like I ignore you, so there will be no hurt feelings, please.

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Vanfernal998d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it..."

That is demostrably false.... Most VR games have motion controls and the PSVR uses the Move controllers.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH998d ago (Edited 998d ago )

VR games have a controller most of the time not some magic wand. And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect. I'm not a fan of VR either. A controller and a couch is all I need for my gaming needs.

Vanfernal997d ago

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH

"And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect."

PSVR LITERALLY uses the Move controllers. Now it's just obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. You're saying Move failed and nobody uses it anymore when it's an integral part of PSVR and is still being used in 2021.

ScootaKuH998d ago

It didn't suck. It worked but the games just weren't there, that's why it failed.

Father__Merrin997d ago

The move was excellent it was 1 to 1 precise time crisis was a joy to play aswell as sports champions it didn't hit mainstream as it was an addon unlike Nintendo wiimote

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Godmars290998d ago

Lack of games that proved the concept that 3rd parties could then copy en masse?

Silly Mammo997d ago

I wish that someone would have made a proper boxing game. I still have a blast with the Sports Champions boxing, but to have a boxing game that was more in-depth would have been awesome.

Dario_DC997d ago

Try Creed for PSVR, it's brilliant

OMGitzThatGuy998d ago

Because it was a uninspired ripoff of the Wii controller without the Nintendo library to back it and didn't try to put any real effort into development such as getting their top developers to make games for it and instead gave tech demos disguised as games to their least talented developers so the best can focus on single player only games.

Ryushaa998d ago

Except the Move was an idea roughly implemented in the PS2. Yes, I'm serious.
Just search on youtube: PlayStation 2 - Motion Controller (2004)

Nonetheless, just like the whole Wii, it was more of a gimmick than a proper input evolution in games.

jukins998d ago

Exactly. Its funny time and time again sony is the first innovate. Often at its own peril. Like your example the move started on ps2 taken advantage of by nintendo. Sony buys gakai for game streaming only for other companies to overtake them.

Profchaos998d ago

Are you talking about the gametrak on os2 which used strings to track your hand position I used to have this and a gold game it was awesome but the game itself sucked if it had integration with tiger woods or something it would be way better the tracking was excellent even back then as it wasn't using guesswork.
However the game was very forgiving and no way to turn it harder and no licensed players or courses hurt it.

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yeahokwhatever998d ago

99% of the Wii's games were "shovelware", in fact, I think thats what started that phrase..

EvertonFC998d ago

Socom, killzone, resistance and tiger wood 14 were great with the move but agree lacked more games.

yeahokwhatever998d ago

There were plenty of games and I'm glad that not every game became a Move game.

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These PS3 Games are Going to get Really Expensive

Could you get rich by investing in PS3 games? Almost definitely not. Can you make a few bucks by flipping PS3 games over the years? Yeah, sure! It wouldn’t even be that difficult. But let’s face it: Once these games are in your collection, you’re probably keeping them forever.

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CDbiggen1000d ago

There's a reason I didn't buy most of these when they came out.

MadLad1000d ago

After a game's multiple generations old, and can't be had new at a reasonable price, that's when I see nothing wrong with emulation.

What's the point of paying someone scalper prices when the dev/publisher isn't even benefiting from it?

mkis0071000d ago

Emulation doesn't stop a games physical box from becoming collectible.

Knightofelemia1000d ago

I paid $30 for SH Downpour on PS3 now it's around $70-$85 Canadian Lolipop Chainsaw I paid $15 and it has really gone up in price. I wonder if Transformers War and Fall of Cybertron will go up in price two of the best Transformers games every made.

neutralgamer19921000d ago

In 5 years time all those games will be worth at least $150 to $200 that you listed

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neutralgamer19921000d ago

Ever since Sony announced that they would shut down PS3 store these prices have skyrocketed and even though Sony backtracked now most gamers realize that it's a matter of time before the PlayStation 3 store is shut down. If you want these games get them while you can even if digital because once that story shut down the physical prices will just go crazy high we saw that already

And many of these games did not sell like crazy amounts so they are limited number of copies available for sale at any given time

MadLad1000d ago

Folklore is a game I've always really wanted to play, but I got a PS3 late in the generation, and it was already really expensive to find, being it didn't exactly sell well, therefore was already kind of a collector's item.

Kept hoping I'd find a cheap copy randomly at stores and flea markets, but never happened.

franwex1000d ago

I got mine for $5 at Walmart like 10 years ago. I have yet to play it.

neutralgamer19921000d ago

It was available at GameStop for a while for under $20. Don't know har happened but GameStop started to sell their used games based on ebay prices it seems

You can still find it for around $60-70 and which in my opinion is a good price for a game that will be worth double if not triple that in next 5 years

Mr Logic1000d ago

Have you considered modding your PS3? Neither Sony or the dev would be getting money from that Folklore purchase. Kind of a victimless crime at that point.

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@neutral

Honestly, I just want to actually give the experience a try. I'm not someone who would buy it at a premium just to potentially rip someone off down the road.
I mean, there are collectors out there and if paying a couple hundred dollars is worth it to them then more power to them, but I'm not one to be on either end of that exchange.

I know it's taboo, but I might dig in and see the state of PS3 emulation on PC. I have a good PC, so it might be able to power through the often times poor performance, being PS3 is known to be hard to emulate.

I've never emulated anything past the PS2/Dreamcast but, as I said in my first post, I don't see anything wrong with emulation if the game you want to play can only be had used, with no money going to the creators.

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