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Ryan Seacrest Promoting Xbox Kinect With Justin Bieber

It was announced earlier this year that Microsoft would be using Justin Bieber to promote its controller-less system and by adding Ryan Seacrest into the mix it shows that the marketing push for Kinect will be huge. On-Air with Ryan Seacrest, a daily radio show featuring pop culture, music and artists; reaches out to millions of people every Monday through Friday in both America and Canada.

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-Alpha4957d ago (Edited 4957d ago )

It really is smart marketing, but you can clearly see that MS is BSing when they keep stringing the core criticism about Kinect being suitable for the core audience.

It's *good* that developers are trying with certain games, but I sincerely question the success of the more standard gaming titles over the titles that Seacrest and Bieber are going to promote

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JsonHenry4957d ago

How could it fail now?

That was sarcasm BTW.

To be completely honest I dont see it failing though. But only because the Wii did so well with a casual market. Unless some nice hardcore games come out for it then it will always be a failure in my eyes regardless of how many units it sells.

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HolyOrangeCows4957d ago

They have some of the world's biggest over-rated pansies set to advertise this thing.

visualb4957d ago

this is good for gamings expansion in the media eye...

however...

this isn't helping the image of older gamers...at all =P

ape0074957d ago (Edited 4957d ago )

MS you should support these amazingly talented studio known as Ruffian games, it's obvious that ms didn't care about crackdown 2 project, crackdown 1 was 1 of my favorite games ever, the second one is good but it was rushed, look at sony how much they gave support for infamous 2, look how bad@ss it look, MS Take care for your own developers, Justin's pocket is already full of cash

Ms's kinda acting like activision, money Now, quality later

FCK THAT SH!T for crying out loud, ahhhhhh, let's not be all negative, let's look at the other side of the coin, Im guessing that Kinict is gonna sell out everywhere but Let just hope that ms support thier studios from all the cash they get from kinect, I hope they get the perfect equlibruim, supporting both hardcore and casual market

Moonboots4957d ago (Edited 4957d ago )

I love my 360 but you hit the nail on the head. This is more about a cash grab than it is about quality entertainment.

If it doesn't work out for them the damage to the brand could be fairly bad. The core will walk and they are the ones that MS feels like they can exploit and jerk around the most because they will keep coming back.. they made Xbox was it is and they are growing tired and are heading for the door.

Crackdown 2 was proof positive MS has given up on quality. And they simply don't have the output to support both casual and hardcore properly.. both will be half assed.. MS will rely on 3rd party to do it and well look how that worked out on Wii.

ape0074957d ago

gave up "ENTIRLY" on quality, halo reach and gears 3 both have great game quality but I guess they are going to the activison way, I hope they prove me wrong

JokesOnYou4957d ago (Edited 4957d ago )

Micro's been working on natal/kinect for a few years now and still imo they had the better lineup vs sony this year. lol, people talk about micro's lack of studio's and yet year after year we keep playing great games on the 360, despite what naysayers on n4g will tell you. I mean we did get ME2, Conviction, Alan Wake, Halo Reach and Fable 3 is just about to release. Say what you want but that seems like a great year for exclusives all while they're in the middle of getting kinect off to a good start, to each his own, I guess but on my ps3 I've only bought GoW3 this year.

number474957d ago (Edited 4957d ago )

Kinect doesn't work as Natal was advertised at e3. Thats #1. CPU removed, and its games are Hardly innovative when it comes to standard webcam gaming. Theres nothing a single Natal game has shown that hasn't already been done by webcam & eyetoy.

"Great" games as defined by you, sure. But hardly multiple AAA titles. You fall over yourself to buy Splinter Cell, yet you ignore the PS3's gaming library because well "ive only bought GoW3.." sure Joy. Sure. Might as well include the 1000 terrible JRpg "games" microsoft releases every hour that aren't worth the dvd they are printed on, if its # and only # that ya care about. I mean yes, if for some reason you enjoy buggy false start games with terrible gameplay mechanics, then yes.. im sure you've enjoyed microsofts lineup.

Microsoft spends more on advertising than the quality of their hardware(rrod), and gaming lineup(Crackdown 2 - Flop, Alan Wake - Flop, Splinter Cell - Flop). Even 360 zealots complain about the quality of the games, as do reviewers. But Sure joy, you can't see any of that :).. Microsoft rushes out a lot of buggy garbage.

Kinect is a joke, its going to sell well for sure. And im sure you're ecstatic about microsoft lying to consumers about the workability of a product. Im sure you will pretend to enjoy kinectimals and joyride, but on the other side of the fence, both nintendo & sony owners don't have to pretend.

Like I've always said, folks like you wouldn't care if MS sold a box of thin air to people, as long as it had a 360 emblem on it.

JokesOnYou4957d ago (Edited 4957d ago )

I'm no fan of kinect software SO FAR, but the tech despite you dissaproval does interest me. aahh I see kinect is just a webcam in your eyes that doesn't bring anything new to the table, but Move is so innovative right? Now as for your opinion on 360 games this year I definitely disagree, just as I said above regarding ps3 games this year, I don't like MAG or Heavy Rain, thats not to say their not quality games just that I didn't particularly care for them, what else was there.

Yes micro spends alot on advertising, and while I have my complaints about my 360 and what micro should or shouldn't do, its still been a helluva year. I don't see why kinect is going to "doom" the 360. lol It's ridiculous every year there's a new excuse why 360 owner should be worried about future games. Yeah sure, go ahead and downplay the 360 lineup this year all YOU want, while GAMERS keep making you look foolish. I'll reserve judgement on kinect but good or bad I'm betting just like every year 360 will continue to get great games that I will enjoy.

"Like I've always said, folks like you"...who love to force YOUR opinion on people as fact, as if I just started gaming this gen.

JOY

JD_Shadow4956d ago

It's not that they are advertising it. It's HOW they do so. They are not marketing this to the core audience (look at the story;since when are either two viable candidates to someone that would play anything other than the games they are pushing for Kinect), and it seems to be more of a quick cash grab than something that they are looking to have as a long term investment. No one is saying that they CAN'T promote Kinect, but the way that they are going right now about it, it doesn't seem like the decision making is very smart (and no one knows if MS cares if it IS smart).

lowcarb4956d ago

No one is saying that they CAN'T promote Kinect, but the way that they are going right now about it, it doesn't seem like the decision making is very smart (and no one knows if MS cares if it IS smart)."

That's just more silly spin that honestly makes no sense what so ever. There going about it the right way by advertising it no if and or buts period. You make it sound like nothing is on the way yet they have announced tons of exclusives for it and have core games coming in 2011. Right now it's all about the casual and we know this so stop with the forgotten core speech already. We have plenty of games now and coming to hold us over until a few games of interest arrive on Kinect. Call it what you will but this ad campaign is perfect which for whatever reason has you and others spreading fud.

"It's not that they are advertising it. It's HOW they do so."

If it doesn't interest you then don't buy it. Core games will come and unlike MOve at least they are taking risks and trying something new. Yes new because nobody ever pushed camera games like this before but then again this is the 1st camera like this.

Jaces4956d ago

Conviction and Alan Wake were "Good" at best and Crackdown 2 was a major letdown, Oh yea ME2 is no longer exclusive. The 360's exclusives have been lacking recently, it's not hard to see that.

And the thing with promoting their product is that they do it with celebs who MOST of us admire and adore, which throws a false sense of security when they're speaking for a product that they could probably care less for, they get paid to say things not to provide an accurate description of how good Kinect is. At least Sony shows some class behind their adverts instead of throwing us Beiber and Seacrest.

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JokesOnYou4956d ago (Edited 4956d ago )

"They are not marketing this to the core audience"

-nah, really?...No shiii sherlock, they are going after the same folks who made the wii so popular, so why not use Bieber and Seacrest? Micro is smart, they already know they have a significant base of core gamers that will buy kinect IF and WHEN they bring more hardcore games to kinect....the hard part is getting the casual folks who have so far shunned the 360 to go out and buy kinect, thats what this marketing approach aims to do. I mean lets not kid ourselves as long as 360 continues to get non-motion hardcore games like Fable 3(soon), insanely popular multiplats like COD Black Ops(soon), Gears3(next year), Project Kingdoms(Crytek game next yr) Otomedius Excellent(Konami game due in 2011), XCom and more, then the 360 will keep selling well to hardcore gamers as its been the best selling console for a few months now, thats not an accident thats because GAMERS like what the 360 offers. No amount of scare tactics are going to make hardcore 360 owners throw away their 360's as long as these type of games keep coming, regardless of kinects success or failure. lol

JOY

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All_4_One4957d ago (Edited 4957d ago )

Seacrest and Bieber? Brilliant marketing, but the hardcore 360 players should be trembling, because it looks like exclusives are at the bottom of Micosoft`s list right now, and paying Bieber is at the top.

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus231d 14h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

KwietStorm_BLM1d 7h ago

So you do understand it or..?

rokos1d 5h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb331d 4h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC19h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled1d 20h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies1d 8h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear211d 3h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k42d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot1d 23h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC19h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615861d 3h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k423h ago(Edited 23h ago)

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k423h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody1d 23h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead1d 13h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage1d 6h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast1d 22h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19791d 22h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel1d 14h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19791d 3h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage1d 6h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead3d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel4d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow3d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1823d ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie2d ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere2d ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin2d ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere2d ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow1d 15h ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere2d ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow1d 15h ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX3d ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney1d 10h ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno3d ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Inverno3d ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii2d ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno2d ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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