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Gran Turismo 5 Delay Due to Recent XMB OS Hijinx

TheBrokeGamer.com : "Remember when it was all the rage that the homebrew community finally found a way around Sony’s airtight XMB security to modify PS3s and add functionality? Well folks, that honeymoon is finally over because word has come out that due to the nature of the breach your favorite game and mine Gran Turismo 5 has been delayed"

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Godmars2904964d ago

Why take out whole cities just to nail one hacker where a ninja, a sloppy one anyway, will at least burn down a house after killing everyone in it?

Okay, maybe the neighborhood.

Eamon4964d ago

uhh, then why didn't Microsoft delay Halo Reach till an XBL banwave occurred?

If this is true, then that is greed on a level I have never seen before. And I thought Microsoft was the most notorious.

nveenio4964d ago

If you think it's greedy to protect the value of something you spent billions of dollars getting to where it is today, then you're part of the problem.

I blame YOU for the delay.

Eamon4964d ago

You can blame me all you want but I've never even been that interested in car simulators.

This has nothing to do with protection. 360 piracy has been on full swing for years now and it has never affected its sales significantly.

And to be honest, I think they added it for 3D. Not to do with piracy. Because many owners may want to use 3D for GT5 but not go online.

Graey4964d ago

damn that was funny. I can just see that scene in my head LoL. Bubbles for you my friend.

nveenio4964d ago

"You can blame me all you want but I've never even been that interested in car simulators."

What does that have to do with anything? Can you explain the 360 hack to me? Isn't it a bit more involved than the PS3 hack? I mean, honestly...all it takes to "hack" the PS3 is a thumb drive. There's no voiding of the warranty or anything. It is officially the easiest way to play backups ever...even easier than PC. The reason 360 piracy hasn't affected sales is because it's more difficult. Fewer people feel comfortable doing it. And NO 360 owners want to void the warranty they so desperately need. Just look what piracy has done to PC sales. THAT'S what you should be comparing PS3 to, because the PC is easy enough for 75% of gamers to pirate.

bostoner4964d ago

well said inveni0... plus bubbles

Its just pissed me off to see this crap. If you care a little about your favorite consoles well being you shouldn't pirate anything. It just leads to this crap. 10 years in the making and some buttle who cant pay 60 bucks for a masterpiece ruins the release date for everyone. and as the bonehead 3d idea this guy made.... they need to update their consoles to go 3D anyways... that requires a internet connection at least once. So its not a 3D thing. n since this will now have a required firmware to play it how would that change anything for those 3D people? No matter what you must update past the jailbreak OS so its required either way.

Eamon4963d ago

sigh, like I said, they most likely did it for the offline 3D support.

Not for piracy. Otherwise, they would have just left it on 3.42 which blocked the jailbreak anyway.

Death24944963d ago

you do know that the 360 was hacked in less then 5 months after it's release, right? another thing is that the hack just allow you to put your ps3 into debug mode, therefore allowing you to install games to it. While I am pissed that the release date has been moved, it's not as serious as everyone is making it out to be. Look you're either going to get the game or you're not, but don't act like this really made you not want to purchase the game anymore.

nveenio4963d ago (Edited 4963d ago )

I think you're misunderstanding my stance on the issue. I don't care if they postpone a release. It doesn't bother me at all because I know they don't so it unless they have a good reason. Even if that reason is just to help the devs, I support it because the people that make incredible games like GT5 deserve to have their efforts rewarded.

Second, I don't mind the delay because I'm not buying the game anyway. Don't get me wrong, I think it looks absolutely astounding. I'm just not into driving games, and if I pick one to play, it'll be an arcade racer (like NFS:HP). I still think that GT5 is the superior driving game, but I'm not buying it based on my experience with GT5:P, which was my first GT experience.

jneul4963d ago

@EAMON YES IT DOES AFFECT SALES, LOOK AT ANY GAME THAT DOES NOT HAVE MULTIPLAYER ON IT FOR EXAMPLE ALAN WAKE HAS SOLD LOW AMOUNTS, BUT YOU CAN BET LOTS OF PIRATES HAVE AN UNOFFICAIL COPY PLAYING IN THEIR MODDED X360 THEY HAVE AS A SPARE

stevenhiggster4963d ago

@ Eamon

Are you seriously trying to tell us that people would rather have 3D support than online play in GT5!!?? Are you freakin nuts!?

frostypants4963d ago (Edited 4963d ago )

Just stop...

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Christopher4964d ago (Edited 4964d ago )

Don't believe it. This is such a minor change and they have already released 3.5 on MoH that implementing it on the disc would be a trivial task that wouldn't have delayed the game at all.

The 3.5 firmware code is already available from SOE and simply needs to be put onto a disc and will automatically run first when the disc loads. Doesn't require rewriting any game code or anything of that sort.

ryuzu4964d ago (Edited 4964d ago )

I also don't think that 3.5 is the reason - or if it is, then PD and Sony are even less professional than I thought (and I have a pretty dim view). However, technically speaking they need to build the GT5 code with the 3.5 SDK, otherwise hacked PS3's could just skip the 3.5 firmware install and run GT5 anyway.

GT5 is a big deal for Sony so no surprise they want to protect their investment as much as possible.

But big surprise if no one at Sony/PD spotted this issue until a few days ago and have missed the BD pressing slot due to some build issues.

r.

LordMarius4964d ago (Edited 4964d ago )

but it probably wasnt on the disc, remember 3.5 allows 3D playback something GT5 is pushing, so it was crucial for them to have it included

@Nitrowolf2
Really? My mistake then.

theEx1Le4964d ago

How on earth could you possibly know it's that simple? if it was the pirates would have found a way round it by now

Nitrowolf24964d ago (Edited 4964d ago )

Well according to what this person says it had 3.42 installed, i think 3.42 blocks jailbreak but 3.50 gives the PS3 or makes games run at different encription of something.

This would cause a delay with all the copies they had to ship. MoH wasn't going to sell as much and the game was done a like a month or 2 ago giving them plenty of time to put in a new FW. GT5 hasn't gone gold yet even though we are so close to release

@LordMarius

that was for movies, we got gaming 3D a while back before 3.42

Axis4964d ago

The main problem is that because of the delay, they lost the printing window for the blu rays. Like the quote in the article said, they has to secure a new printing schedule, which was about a three week window.

jelydonut4964d ago

I know most of you don't understand as are not software developers.. but yes.. the game was designed around 1 version of the SDK and now must be ported to work with the new version. Includes, functions, etc, could change between versions, which require massaging to the code and headers.

ReBurn4963d ago

Upgrading the game to the latest SDK means generating a new build and completely regression testing the game, especially portions of the game engine that rely on any updated SDK libraries. That alone could be significant.

If the delay is for this reason I bet Sony forced it so that people would have to upgrade their firmware just to be able to play the game. Not a bad idea, actually, and could really prevent piracy.

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InTheKnow4964d ago (Edited 4964d ago )

C'mon, it's a new excuse every couple of hours from these guys. What happen to missing the deadline by 3 days...lol..The pirates made them do it.

What's next...It's M$, Activision and EA's vault for putting out games that people will buy before theirs...O_o

swinesucker4964d ago

Seriously, get your teenage ass out of the thread. Nobody with a life cares that this game was delayed.

Jamegohanssj54964d ago

So yeah you can thank all of your pirate friends for getting this game delayed. Again.

TGSI

DigitalAnalog4963d ago

Seriously, I never got so pissed about pirates like this before.

-End statement

Rush4963d ago

You don't fuck pirates, pirates fuck you xD

stragomccloud4963d ago

Yeah! Right in the....with a..... wait, what are talking about again?

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plb4964d ago

So what's this make. Rumour #10 on why GT5 was delayed. This sounds most legit though.

MiloGarret4963d ago (Edited 4963d ago )

Really? Sounds incredible to me, but w/e. If this is the real reason it seems very unprofessional.

Karum4963d ago

What exactly is unprofessional about not wanting people to illegally benefit from your work?

Enlighten me, I beg you.

MiloGarret4963d ago

PSJailbreak came out yesterday?

There, enlightened.

jneul4963d ago

PSJAILBRREAK HAS BEEN AROUND FOR AT LEAST A MONTH SILLY!!

asyouburn4963d ago

well, one day when you code and publish your own ps3 games, you can wow us all with your ability to optimize for the new SDK in record time with no delays. until then STFU

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divideby04964d ago

I think it was delayed cause its gonna rain today...

limewax4964d ago

It was bound to happen, Sony announced the other day that all games will require the new firmware update from here on out

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers22d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken21d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g22d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing22d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H922d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola21d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66922d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle22d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg22d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos22d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola22d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies43d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken42d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga42d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken42d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6442d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long42d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197242d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic42d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12542d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91342d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer42d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit42d ago (Edited 42d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91342d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit42d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher42d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6942d ago (Edited 42d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit42d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal42d ago (Edited 42d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher42d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken42d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197242d ago (Edited 42d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic42d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2342d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218342d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit42d ago (Edited 42d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder42d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts42d ago

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