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Senator Yee's office recommends you mail him Kinect, not 'dated controllers'

In a cheeky response to the Video Game Voters Network initiative to bombard California senator Leland Yee's office with old and broken controllers, Yee's chief of staff Adam Keigwin told GamePolitics, "I think the Senator would appreciate a Kinect add-on rather than those dated controllers." That wasn't his only zinger.

thebudgetgamer4968d ago

i say we all mail him 5200 controllers.

-_-

Bigpappy4968d ago

This is exactly the type that Kinect will draw into gaming. They haven't had any fun since they were 6 years old. They could easily get addicted and tell the wifee that they are exercising.

bustamove4967d ago

...You're kidding me, right?

R2D24967d ago

Does your mother and father play Gears or Killzone?

Kinect is looking to capture that crowld that the Wii had but could not keep them due to the lack of games support.

I am not buying Kinect for my self but will get it it for my son/daughter and wife and hope that Kinect can make them enjoy gaming as much as I do. I tried playing gears with my wife but her firsst complaint was why are there so many buttons and what happend to the A and B with platform games days.

xtreampro_REVENGE!4968d ago (Edited 4968d ago )

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Although I'm a PS3 fan I just want to say one thing, in terms of 3D tracking Kinect is far superior to the PS-Eye due to it's two extra cameras dedicated to viewing in three dimensions. Now all MS have to do is come out with a motion controller that's got everything the PS-Move has inside it, but make the Kinect track the device for 3D tracking and BAM! you have a PS-Move killer.

But MS are too dumb to even conceive such an idea, so I hope Sony are reading this, because a new 3D PS-Eye with an infrared beam will give far superior 3D tracking than a standard camera tracking a glowing ball for 3D tracking.

EDIT: Just to put it in simpler terms, my idea could ultimately get rid of the glowing ball on top of the PS-Move and could also make the PS-Move super accurate with lag smaller than 22ms or around 10-8ms.

gamingdroid4968d ago

I think the technology behind Kinect is leaps and bounds above what the PS Eye can offer. Some of the technology is just something that emerged in the last few years. The whole story behind Kinect can be found here if you are interested:

http://www.wired.co.uk/wire...

In terms of getting rid of the of the glowing ball, technically we already have the Xbox 360 controller. It doesn't provide gyroscopes or accelerometers, but I'm not sure that is necessary when you can determine that to some degree from the footage. It's standard and everyone is guaranteed to have one.

Reducing lag would be reliant on faster algorithms to detect motion and better hardware components i.e. chips, not by including a 3D camera.

xtreampro_REVENGE!4968d ago (Edited 4968d ago )

Yeah you're probably right about lag, but what I was trying to say is that the PS-Move needs the glowing ball because the PS-Eye can't see how far away the PS-Move is without that glowing ball ecause it can't track in 3D.

With a camera like Kinect 3D tracking is where it shines and it'd be able to track an object in 3D space without the device/object having to have a ball or some type of tracking device stuck to it because it can see in 3D like our eyes.

So instead of the ball helping the PS-Eye track in 3D, the PS-eye will be doing all the work itself without any help coming from the controller if it had two extra cameras and an infrared beam.

But my idea requires Sony to make a new camera which is why I think PS-Move 2 should work like how I have described above.

BillOreilly4967d ago

I say split the 360 controller into 2 handheld controllers with an analog stick on each 2 L2,L1,R1,R2 buttons on each so fps can use kinect. Use the hh controller to walk or button pres and kinect to body track for gestures, voice commands exc. You dont need to track the cont. because kin tracks your body so they would be the same as the pad we have just split into 2. Cheap easy addition to make it work better.

Mystogan4968d ago (Edited 4968d ago )

Kinect Technology is Patented

Dude just stop it..for 3D tracking you need 3 cameras and when it uses 3 cameras it will end up with Microsoft Sueing sony.

I really don't think Sony will ever do a 3D camera even if it is some new never before seen technology, After all they said about having buttons and dissing Kinect for NOT having buttons.

MS on the other hand can still do some extra Wiimote-like Accesory for more precision in shooters...which is only a matter of time before that happens.

dredgewalker4968d ago

You mean a "controller" with "buttons" to help out Kinect? Doesn't that actually defeat the purpose of Kinect? If Kinect ever needed such an "accessory" then it's the same as MS admitting that buttons are needed.

Mystogan4967d ago (Edited 4967d ago )

Well kinda but they won't be as embarrased as sony since they never said anything like ''BUTTONS ARE NOT NEEDED F**K THE CONTROLLER''...Thats what sony basically said about kinect..only its the other way around
''BUTTONS ARE ALWAYS NEEDED F**K KINECT''

While MS Says: no controller REQUIRED and they never made fun of Move or the WII with their commercials..which sony did do

Point is MS shouldn't be embarrased if they do add something extra for the Core gamers that do want that extra precision

dredgewalker4967d ago

Isn't MS slogan for Kinect "You are the controller", and also an additional accessory would make it much more expensive. MS did bash Move by saying that it's a more expensive set-up and Rare did claim that controllers are more laggy than Kinect. Anyway I'm really just trying to have a discussion with you cause you've been decent enough to answer me with a decent reply which I really appreciate.

Mystogan4967d ago

thats why i said for core gamers it should be packed with some shooters or an additional kinect packet specially for core gamers.

dredgewalker4967d ago

My whole point in what I said is adding an additional accessory will discredit what Kinect is trying to attempt and that is a controllerless interface in gaming. It's not impossible for Kinect to work with a controller but after all that pr about the controller beig made obsolete by Kinect and then adding it is an awful way to make a statement and a testament that controllers and buttons are absolutely needed in gaming.

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ChronoJoe4968d ago

All Microsoft have to do is come out with another controller, to achieve wha the move offers... all Sony have to do is tell ya to buy a second PS-Eye.

*rolls eyes*

Software_Lover4968d ago

Im just gonna leave that one alone

Vegeta90004968d ago

She wants to get that Kinect game where you put your head up her butt to make an elephant.

FragMnTagM4967d ago

So what? I have played the Wii with several family members and always have a good time. I see no difference with Kinect, in fact, it will probably be more fun as I don't have to explain buttons.

clintos594968d ago

Maybe they forgot that dvd drives & dvd's are also outdated. Im just saying.

Software_Lover4968d ago

They are still being used today by the vast majority?

Information Minister4968d ago

Aren't controllers also being used today by the vast majority?

Strikepackage Bravo4968d ago

if DVDs are outdated, then so is blueray, since all bluray is, is a High Def DVD. You fanboys are amazing LOL!

AntoineDodson4968d ago

A blu-ray is a high def DVD? You kidding right? Try playing one in one of your "high def dvd players"..

dredgewalker4967d ago

@Strike

Try cramming 50 gigs on a single dvd, good God your logic is so full of holes. And calling other people fanboys doesn't help if your reasoning is completely faulty in itself. Get some common sense and a good education, trust me it will help you out a lot in real life.

FragMnTagM4967d ago

It is a DVD, taken to the next level. It uses very similar things but enhanced versions of those things.

1. DVD's and Blu-Ray's use an optical laser to read data.
2. They are both discs.
3. Data is read off of tiny grooves embedded in the plastic of the disk.
4. Both made of plastic.

SO he is not 100% wrong, but there is no denying that a Blu-Ray is superior tech. Blu Ray movies are very nice indeed.

The only thing I hate about Blu Rays is their damn aspect ratio sometimes. Why aren't they in 16:9 and take up my whole screen? Nothing pisses me off more than having a 58" Plasma in 1080p to watch a movie on roughly half of the screen.

End of off topic statement.

Moonboots4968d ago (Edited 4968d ago )

you sound like you took personal offense to this thus the reason you went way off topic. Was it because she wanted Kinect or is it because you feel a special connection to your controller? I'm just saying..

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XCOM's Jake Solomon Q&A - Building a Narrative-Driven Life Sim Game at Midsummer Studios

XCOM and Marvel's Midnight Suns director Jake Solomon has founded a new studio to make a life sim game. Here's a new interview with him.

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Microsoft's quest for short-term $$$ is doing long-term damage to Windows, Surface, Xbox, and beyond

Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation, and it all revolves around Satya Nadella and CFO Amy Hood's plans to increase every department's margins.

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Brazz9h ago

"The plan to move Xbox games to other platforms is codenamed "Latitude" internally, and I know there's debate and unease at Microsoft about whether or not this is a good idea. More upcoming Microsoft-owned games slated for PlayStation are already being developed. At least for now, they're potentially obvious games you'd most likely expect. And yes, while it's true Microsoft is a prolific publisher on PlayStation already, it has typically revolved around specific franchises like Minecraft. From what I've heard, Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation, and it all revolves around Satya Nadella and CFO Amy Hood's mandate to increase every department's margins. "

Yeah, they are going to kill Xbox hardware.

Xeofate7h ago

"Yeah, they are going to kill Xbox hardware."

It's for the best.

Quit stringing along xbox fans and screwing over PlayStation owners.

crazyCoconuts2h ago

Take good care of those Xboxes if you have 'em ...

outsider16242h ago

An Xbox game on a Playstation. Never in my years of gaming did i ever thought this was gonna happen.

gold_drake8h ago

i think it will kill off the xbox brand. windows will be fine.

but there is and would be a chance that xbox might be killed off in the future. if they fail to make the money they put in. imo.

S2Killinit6h ago

They wont kill it, but they will go fully PC while keeping xbox as a brand, and go multiplatform for the most part. They will also work tirelessly to diminish console gaming’s importance.

PRIMORDUS3h ago

It would be best if Xbox goes the way of Sega, just make and publish games. I know I myself will not support them at all with buying games from them, you all can. 🙃

ChasterMies1h ago

The Xbox brand will live for the games. I don’t expect Microsoft to entirely drop out of gaming hardware. They make Surface tablets and laptops. They’ll make Xbox branded hardware for those that want it.

shadowT8h ago

"Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation"

Forza and Starfield next?

Skuletor6h ago

Starfield would be no surprise and there's the rumor that it will come to Playstation after the Shattered Space DLC, Forza (along with Halo and Gears of War) I find less likely but I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually end up on PlayStation too, especially if Xbox give up on hardware and go the Sega route.

shinoff21836h ago

Not to worried about forza. I'd rather see others like what inxile and obsidian are working on. Starfield sounds like it needs more time in the oven so let it cook first imo. If starfield and it's a small if does release on ps it'll be in the fall around the time for dlc or right at the dlc and come packaged with it.

-Foxtrot7h ago

In the words of Phil Spencer when he was talking about Nintendo last year

“It's just taking a long time for Microsoft to see that their future exists off of their own hardware"

S2Killinit6h ago

Yup. MS are a cancer to console gaming.

Aloymetal5h ago

100%!!
I wonder what happened to that dude that was always here posting those court articles with cartoons about MS spending all those billions in studios. He suddenly disappeared, I guess he doesn't like bad news when the green brand is in trouble. No new articles from him as of late...

PRIMORDUS3h ago

Yup, and it's only going to keep spreading.

Outside_ofthe_Box3h ago

Phil Spencer's words always comes back to bite him lol

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Price Reductions Available Now on the Digital Xbox 360 Store - Closing July 29, 2024

Xbox 360 launched 18 years ago and was a generation-defining console that invited many people to jump into gaming for the first time and connect with friends around the world. We’re thrilled people continue playing their favorite Xbox 360 games on Xbox 360, or on newer consoles via Backward Compatibility for supported titles.

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Einhander19729h ago

"we believe in game preservation"

Remember the media reaction when PlayStation wanted to shut down the PS3 store (but then kept it open)... where is that reaction here?

CrimsonWing698h ago

What are you asking? Like, if people got pissed at Sony for that? Because they did. We also got pissed at Nintendo when they did it.

You’re getting a chance to buy what you want before they close it. Moving forward digital stores should work like Steam. It’s just in this beginning they made it platform specific and closed off. A hindsight in their part and it sucks, but what is the percentage of people buying anything off these stores and what is the cost to keep the servers up?

I get it and yes making strives so this isn’t the case every gen we go into is absolutely a must. I mean PSN on PS3 is so convoluted to buy anything since you can’t use a credit card. Vita store is gone. It’s going to go away eventually.

Einhander19728h ago

"What are you asking? Like, if people got pissed at Sony for that? Because they did. We also got pissed at Nintendo when they did it."

My point is when PlayStation did this every website under the sun was writing articles talking about how "anti-consumer" it was yet I haven't seen anything like that happening when it's xbox doing it, in fact mostly what I see is praise from media when xbox makes obviously false claims about game preservation while they close down their store and xblig and push for digital only consoles streaming and subscriptions.

What I am asking is for everyone to be criticized or praised equally.

I mean look at the way the PS5 Slim's detachable disk drive was reported, it was super critical. Even though in reality they made it easier for people who initially buy a digital only console to move to physical, it was actually a step away from digital only. But did it get reported like that at all... no.

And you can still buy stuff on PlayStation you just need to add money to your account on the website or a PS4/5.

Tacoboto8h ago

That reaction isn't here because you can still play Xbox 360 discs of supported BC titles on Series and Xbox One, and you can still buy BC titles on the current Xbox Store.

It still sucks losing access to non-BC titles but don't act like it's the same situation. Let me know when PS5 actually supports my PS3 library.

Einhander19728h ago(Edited 8h ago)

How are you going to play those discs on your Series S (which 75% of xbox owners have) or your adorably all digital Series X?

And keep in mind that BC on xbox is an extremely limited selection of games, it's less than 25% of retail releases, and way less than the entire catalogue.

It's not a solution for the future, this isn't how "game preservation" looks, it's the fake PR that makes it that much worse.

Tacoboto7h ago

I'm not getting an all digital Series X so bark up someone else's tree, creep. I have my Series X for that disc support and functioning old hardware I still buy discs for (Bought Sudeki, Super Paper Mario, and 3D Dot Game Heroes a few months back - one for each old platform).

Fact is there's a mechanism that exists for Xbox OG and 360 BC physically and digitally. PS has none for PS1 or 2 or 3. If you're gonna bring PS into an Xbox article, at least know what you're talking about.

Einhander19726h ago

"Fact is there's a mechanism that exists for Xbox OG and 360 BC physically and digitally. PS has none for PS1 or 2 or 3. If you're gonna bring PS into an Xbox article, at least know what you're talking about."

I understand that, I'm making commentary on the fact that xbox is moving to digital only (and that the vast majority of current gen xbox owners do not have a disc based option) and not towards preservation as they claim.

And obviously people can play games on the original hardware for as long as that lasts, I have hundreds of games from "retro" consoles, I own nearly 200 PS3 discs alone.

Is there some reason, you feel the need to make personal insults in every comment, I reply to what you say without insulting you. But you know whatever, it says more about you than me...

And for the record "you" was being used colloquially I wasn't speaking you directly.

shinoff21834h ago

It won't as far as emulation. The os3 was built different.

I am in agreement though. I wish Sony would sell like an ultimate console. Have it where you have to order off their site and make it have real bc. Like the og ps3 had ps2 inside so to say.

Tacoboto3h ago

@Ein You're a creep because of your obsessive comment history making everything revolve around Sony or how awful Xbox is to a point that you're now just throwing irrelevant things in any way you can.

And don't try to make "you" colloquially now just because you're wrong about me and your feelings got hurt.

Einhander197236m ago

Whatever, keep insulting me, if you think that is going to make me change my opinions or what I say you couldn't be more far from the truth.

How you choose to treat other people only reflects poorly on you. (and this time it's not colloquially)

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darthv727h ago

The PS3 situation may have something to do with no forward way to play those games on newer hardware. Not to mention the PS3 store has been around far less than the 360 store. 360 store closing was expected and they did a pretty good job making many of its digital games forward compatible with XBO and subsequently the Series as well. Ones they could not come to an agreement with are going to be left behind, but here is your chance for last minute deals for you to continue playing on your 360.

Just because the 360 store closes doesnt make all of those games you have (digital/physical) stop working on real 360 hardware. If people have physical 360 games, chances are they also have the means to play them. Just like People with PS3 games having a PS3. It would be nice if all older games worked on newer hardware... but that is not for us to decide, that is for MS, Sony and Nintendo.

Asplundh6h ago

Difference being the 360 games will still be sold on series consoles, while the PS5 only preserved a selection of Ps3 games for premium subs. If the Xbox 360 store closes the games will still be available, if the Ps3 store closes then those games are gone.

How does this contradict what they said about game preservation?

Einhander19726h ago

As far as what I have read that is not accurate, except for a small selection of games that are available through BC.

And even when the PS3 and Vita stores were going to be shut down they still were still going to be available to download if you purchased them already.

rlow12m ago

So you’re asking for equal treatment? That’s not how the world works or don’t you know? Which I can can’t believe you’re that naive. Xbox gets attacked on this site all the time. You have to ask why that was a big deal amongst the PS3 fan base? Because it wasn’t Xbox fans that were throwing up a huge stink. It’s was PlayStation fans and look at the results, Sony gave in and kept it open. You should celebrate it, instead of worrying about who takes it on the chin more.

The one thing I’ve Learned, is these companies don’t need people to defend them. They have all done things worth criticizing, but it will never be equal.

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1Victor9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

RIP Xbox 360 digital store and all its games.
It really grinds my gears that they are waiting till 10 days before closing to give the best discounts and the list as of now is 100 or less titles from the massive 360 library

Phoenix769h ago(Edited 9h ago)

I should have enough points by the weekend to get £25 credit off MS, (hardly ever spend money on xb1), might look at a few of these.

DivineHand1259h ago

The Xbox 360 store was one of the only advantages the Xbox Series consoles had over the PS5. When I got my series X, I spent more playing Xbox 360 games vs current-gen Xbox games since that was the golden era for Xbox and several titles had enhancements such as 4k resolution and fps boost.

Closing this store will now only benefit the competition.

VersusDMC8h ago

The xbox360 store is closing on the xbox 360.

Xbox 360 games are unaffected on the xbox one and series consoles.

Einhander19727h ago

"Xbox will stop supporting the ability to purchase new games, DLC, and other entertainment content from the Xbox 360 Store on the console ->and the Xbox 360 Marketplace (marketplace.xbox.com).<-&q uot;

You will not be able to purchase any 360 games. You will only be able to play xbox discs if you have a console that support discs which doesn't look great for the future of xbox, if it has one.

VersusDMC7h ago

@Ein

Why are you repeating what i said?

You will not be able to buy digital 360 games to play on your 360.

You will still be able to buy 360 games on Xbone and Series consoles. Go to marketplace.xbox.com, that's the old browser store and not the new one.

Knightofelemia4h ago

Won't be long before Sony pulls the plug on the PS3.

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