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How I didn’t own in MAG with PlayStation Move

After my experience with the MAG beta and now the officially released MAG 2.0 patch, Zipper’s implementation of the Move control scheme is not as easy or comparable, if ever, to a mouse and keyboard. To be fair, it’s not for everyone and I don’t think the casual appeal will actually make the game more approachable to newcomers. MAG Online is filled players either using the traditional DualShock or presumably mastering the PlayStation Move. I’m still figuring out whether I should continue trying out the PlayStation Move or sticking to the DualShock and here’s why.

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raztad4979d ago

http://iwaggle.blogspot.com...

You should take hints from that video. It takes practice but it is worth of it.

morganfell4979d ago (Edited 4979d ago )

That video is a little piece of genius. He was very helpful with a great many pointers and some keen observations about easily overlooked tweaks and features. Especially interesting is the fact the muzzle rise from the Move on full auto is a great deal less than the DS3. He was also honest about the initial bloody nose you get. But with a little sticktoitiveness you can own.

StanLee4979d ago

Why? What's the point? Just use a standard controller. Move is a novelty and an expensive one at that. It doesn't make the experience better or more rewarding. It's a gimmick.

GarandShooter4979d ago

'It doesn't make the experience better or more rewarding.'

Sorta like taking the time to read your comments. :P

But seriously, isn't that up to the individual to decide?

UnwanteDreamz4978d ago

"It doesn't make the experience better or more rewarding."

Prove it Stan. If you are going to state this as a fact I expect evidence to support your claims.

Maybe you are confusing facts with your own pessimistic opinions?

DERKADER4978d ago

All your doing is replacing a very accurate easy to measure thumb movement with an awkward complicated sensor based wrist movement. I bought a Wii and realized that motion gaming is a gimmick and I'm not falling for it again.

JUDALATION4978d ago

I made a video of the control settings I use while using move... they are great if you want the most comfortable settings...

ThanatosDMC4978d ago

He cant. He doesnt have a PS3 or hates it with a passion.

RussDeBuss4978d ago

@ stan - gut from iwaggle3d on the video says better than ds3 once you get used to it, maybe thats the point

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SasanovaS19874979d ago

so cus 1 gamer sucks at games, i should read his blog? welcome to this generation of gamers, where they stick to halo and pretend they pro...

AndrewE4979d ago

the move definitely takes a lot of practice just like with any new control scheme. i've just been able to crack a negative KD ratio and this is from a guy who loves wii remote shooters.

seinfan4979d ago

lol "negative K:D"

I think that's impossible, but I know what you mean by saying negative. And the fact that you enjoy Wii shooters (and presumably have plenty of experience with motion controls), well, I think it's a testament to how motion controls are more of a hindrance.

Christopher4979d ago

@raztad: Awesome video. Thanks for the link.

raztad4978d ago

sure buddy. enjoy.

@Stanlee

Move in MAG is pretty fun and cool.

Christopher4977d ago

Ordered a move controller and navigator today. Can't wait to try it out.

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Neko_Mega4979d ago

I hate the Move with MAG, its so cheap. You can turn and aim faster with it, feels weird but man it feels like playing it on PC.

Neko_Mega4979d ago

Why for 4 disagree? I mean it is true, it is kind of cheap being able to turn faster then a normal controller can. This is why Killzone 3 isn't letting Move users play with controller users.

If you don't believe that then look it up.

Super-Brad4978d ago

You expressed your opinion, don't come back moaning about other people expressing their opinions against yours.

Neko_Mega4978d ago

I was wanting to know why, not some bs from a person like you.

Silly Mammo4978d ago

And when does "feels like playing it on a PC" a bad thing? If Move makes MAG play like a M/Kb, I'd be a pretty happy pup!

Bolts4978d ago

Wait a minute just how is the PC feel when playing shooters cheating? Just because the controls don't suck doesn't mean that it's unfair advantage, and how stupid do you have to be to derive at this logic?

xAlmostPro4978d ago

doesn't this then prove that move isnt just a gimmick and is infact a really accurate piece of tech?..sounds good to me, if your going to take the time to learn and be able to use the new controle scheme i think having and advantage(if your good with it) is completely fair..

BUT if your really good with a controller that doesnt mean they will beat you.. i used to play PC gaming for cod 2 & for and used a controller and i done good.. eventually it didn't even seem to me like i was playing against people with super accurate mouses :/.. if anything with move being so precise playing against these people will make you better..

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Socomer 19794979d ago

I played modern warfare reflex in my friends house and got owned! I didn't do jack in that game and I could already see it was going to take me at least 24 hours to get decent with the wii game. My friend on the other hand was laughing at me as he did whatever he wanted using the wiimote.

So I have no empathy for scrubs who rage quit. Trust and believe the wii crowd is right at home with the move scheme. My friend isn't even a gamer. His rank in modern warfare reflex was a 16. The wii and the move is a mutiple targeting beast.

mr.selfdestruct4979d ago

I tried it last night and it very awkward using the DS3 in my left hand. Prolly wont try it again till i get a Nav controller.

JoeReno4978d ago

Ive been playing for the past 2days with a DS3, and while I agree that it will probably be more comfortable it is not a must.

MsmackyM4979d ago (Edited 4979d ago )

Been playing MAG w/Move all weekend. I have been getting a lot better, scoring at the top of my squad regularly. Granted they're randoms after, being absent from MAG all summer, and learning a new control scheme, I feel pretty good about the Move.
Like TTP says in his iWaggle3D video, once you get good with the Move, playing feels much more rewarding, and the gameplay is much more immersive.

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Air Conflicts: Secret Wars - PlayStation Move's Best Kept Secret

Air Conflicts: Secret Wars debuted in 2011, and later updated for modern consoles. However, it's the PlayStation 3 edition that stands out.

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Why the PlayStation Move Failed

Sony's PlayStation Move may not have been able to contend with Nintendo's Wii, but it paved the way for PlayStation VR's success story.

SullysCigar985d ago

I use them most days and have for years 🤷🏻‍♂️

They're definitely way past a needed update, but I've got a tonne of fun out of them, so they haven't failed me.

bouzebbal984d ago

The best motion control platform it's so intuitive.. Died due to lack of support from Sony.. It had some amazing games

thorstein985d ago

They are used constantly for PSVR games. So, no they haven't failed. Neither has PSVR (or VR in general.)

Bigman4k985d ago (Edited 985d ago )

The article was talking about why it ps move failed before psvr came along

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH985d ago

It failed because it sucked plain and simple.

LOGICWINS985d ago

I feel that's a bit harsh. To this day, playing Killzone 3's campaign with PS Move/Sharpshooter gun combo is the most fun/immersive experience I've ever had with an FPS.

I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be, but it didn't "suck".

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH985d ago

It most definitely sucked. You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible. The entire motion control fad was a waste of resources and time. Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it...

Minute Man 721985d ago

@SPEAK

The Move was better that the Wii mote. If the Wii was anywhere accurate as the Move was you could say the Wii was better. Sure it sold boatloads but was it really played consistently??

yeahokwhatever985d ago

I played it in 3D with the move gun on a 100 inch projector and it BLEW MY MIND. I was exhausted, but i finished the campaign standing there.

SullysCigar985d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming"

Just no. Games release most weeks (for years now) that support Move controllers. Some ONLY use Move controllers.

Look, I get you're not a fan, but if you're going to rant, at least inform yourself in advance.

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LordoftheCritics985d ago

I would say both Move and Kinect weren't supported properly.

Sony and MS abandoned what could have been amazing.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH985d ago

Kinect sucked too. I would say Kinect may have been cool had it worked as intended but it was ahead of it's time. Both Kinect and Move are gimmicks nothing more. I honestly don't see why Sony still implements "motion controls" recent controllers. Who really uses that crap? And to play what?

Profchaos985d ago

I so t think Sony abandoned the move it's technically repurposed and still supported on the ps5 just for VR

RedDevils985d ago

Kinect should be kept as media interactive features.

LordoftheCritics985d ago (Edited 985d ago )

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH
Again if it was supported right.

Where even a fast click of my fingers could get an immediate in game response.

It feels trash because we have been shown or lived with bad versions of gesture based tech. Think Minority Report fast. That could be something.

''You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible.''

No one is acting like it was special, I said it could be amazing.

''I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be''

Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game and then we can discuss profits.

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SPEAKxTHExTRUTH985d ago

I don't deal in "what if". It wasn't supported right and even if it was it was still a gimmick.

thorstein985d ago

"Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game"

You just described every AAA PSVR game. And even the indies have incredible integration. No Man's Sky VR is insanely good.

Silly gameAr985d ago

And, you can act like it was horrible, but I had a blast with my Move. I had the whole collection of House of the Dead, Dead Space Extraction, and RE Darkside Cronicles, The Fight, and Socom 4, and I would play the hell out of those games I even beat a playthrough of the Resistance 3 campaign with the Move. Getting drunk and playing with friends was a freaking blast.

You can pretend that you had a move and played it all you want SPeak the Truth, but it was accurate, and usually on point. I hate when people act like they've played something just to trash it, when they really just have a vendetta, and think the Move is easy prey for your hate.

Minute Man 721985d ago

Wait you can play Dead Space with the Move?? I need it

Orchard985d ago

“You can pretend that you had a move”

I love this crazy idea that if someone has something bad to say about hardware/software - they must be lying about owning it and clearly do not own it!

Because all hardware and software has a 100% approval rating from all purchasers…

P_Bomb985d ago (Edited 985d ago )

Shoot I forgot about Dead Space Extraction and Umbrella Chronicles. Had those too. Still do (digital).

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH985d ago

I have a vendetta against Move? Lmao that's the most ridiculous comment I've read today. I didn't buy it because like I said motion controls are gimmicks. I had a Wii and it was decent enough but a gimmick although successful. I had a Kinect and it too was trash. Don't act as if you know what I have and haven't owned. Move was nothing more than a Wiimote ripoff

yeahokwhatever985d ago

SO MANY really great experiences for the Move. The Fight was excellent!

Silly gameAr985d ago (Edited 985d ago )

@Minute Man

There was a game called Dead Space Extraction that you could play the Move with.

@Orchard. Please don't reply to me, because every time I say something to you, I magically end up restricted. So, just ignore me like I ignore you, so there will be no hurt feelings, please.

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Vanfernal985d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it..."

That is demostrably false.... Most VR games have motion controls and the PSVR uses the Move controllers.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH985d ago (Edited 985d ago )

VR games have a controller most of the time not some magic wand. And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect. I'm not a fan of VR either. A controller and a couch is all I need for my gaming needs.

Vanfernal985d ago

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH

"And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect."

PSVR LITERALLY uses the Move controllers. Now it's just obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. You're saying Move failed and nobody uses it anymore when it's an integral part of PSVR and is still being used in 2021.

ScootaKuH985d ago

It didn't suck. It worked but the games just weren't there, that's why it failed.

Father__Merrin985d ago

The move was excellent it was 1 to 1 precise time crisis was a joy to play aswell as sports champions it didn't hit mainstream as it was an addon unlike Nintendo wiimote

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Godmars290985d ago

Lack of games that proved the concept that 3rd parties could then copy en masse?

Silly Mammo984d ago

I wish that someone would have made a proper boxing game. I still have a blast with the Sports Champions boxing, but to have a boxing game that was more in-depth would have been awesome.

Dario_DC984d ago

Try Creed for PSVR, it's brilliant

OMGitzThatGuy985d ago

Because it was a uninspired ripoff of the Wii controller without the Nintendo library to back it and didn't try to put any real effort into development such as getting their top developers to make games for it and instead gave tech demos disguised as games to their least talented developers so the best can focus on single player only games.

Ryushaa985d ago

Except the Move was an idea roughly implemented in the PS2. Yes, I'm serious.
Just search on youtube: PlayStation 2 - Motion Controller (2004)

Nonetheless, just like the whole Wii, it was more of a gimmick than a proper input evolution in games.

jukins985d ago

Exactly. Its funny time and time again sony is the first innovate. Often at its own peril. Like your example the move started on ps2 taken advantage of by nintendo. Sony buys gakai for game streaming only for other companies to overtake them.

Profchaos985d ago

Are you talking about the gametrak on os2 which used strings to track your hand position I used to have this and a gold game it was awesome but the game itself sucked if it had integration with tiger woods or something it would be way better the tracking was excellent even back then as it wasn't using guesswork.
However the game was very forgiving and no way to turn it harder and no licensed players or courses hurt it.

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yeahokwhatever985d ago

99% of the Wii's games were "shovelware", in fact, I think thats what started that phrase..

EvertonFC985d ago

Socom, killzone, resistance and tiger wood 14 were great with the move but agree lacked more games.

yeahokwhatever985d ago

There were plenty of games and I'm glad that not every game became a Move game.

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These PS3 Games are Going to get Really Expensive

Could you get rich by investing in PS3 games? Almost definitely not. Can you make a few bucks by flipping PS3 games over the years? Yeah, sure! It wouldn’t even be that difficult. But let’s face it: Once these games are in your collection, you’re probably keeping them forever.

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CDbiggen988d ago

There's a reason I didn't buy most of these when they came out.

MadLad988d ago

After a game's multiple generations old, and can't be had new at a reasonable price, that's when I see nothing wrong with emulation.

What's the point of paying someone scalper prices when the dev/publisher isn't even benefiting from it?

mkis007987d ago

Emulation doesn't stop a games physical box from becoming collectible.

Knightofelemia988d ago

I paid $30 for SH Downpour on PS3 now it's around $70-$85 Canadian Lolipop Chainsaw I paid $15 and it has really gone up in price. I wonder if Transformers War and Fall of Cybertron will go up in price two of the best Transformers games every made.

neutralgamer1992988d ago

In 5 years time all those games will be worth at least $150 to $200 that you listed

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neutralgamer1992988d ago

Ever since Sony announced that they would shut down PS3 store these prices have skyrocketed and even though Sony backtracked now most gamers realize that it's a matter of time before the PlayStation 3 store is shut down. If you want these games get them while you can even if digital because once that story shut down the physical prices will just go crazy high we saw that already

And many of these games did not sell like crazy amounts so they are limited number of copies available for sale at any given time

MadLad987d ago

Folklore is a game I've always really wanted to play, but I got a PS3 late in the generation, and it was already really expensive to find, being it didn't exactly sell well, therefore was already kind of a collector's item.

Kept hoping I'd find a cheap copy randomly at stores and flea markets, but never happened.

franwex987d ago

I got mine for $5 at Walmart like 10 years ago. I have yet to play it.

neutralgamer1992987d ago

It was available at GameStop for a while for under $20. Don't know har happened but GameStop started to sell their used games based on ebay prices it seems

You can still find it for around $60-70 and which in my opinion is a good price for a game that will be worth double if not triple that in next 5 years

Mr Logic987d ago

Have you considered modding your PS3? Neither Sony or the dev would be getting money from that Folklore purchase. Kind of a victimless crime at that point.

MadLad987d ago (Edited 987d ago )

@neutral

Honestly, I just want to actually give the experience a try. I'm not someone who would buy it at a premium just to potentially rip someone off down the road.
I mean, there are collectors out there and if paying a couple hundred dollars is worth it to them then more power to them, but I'm not one to be on either end of that exchange.

I know it's taboo, but I might dig in and see the state of PS3 emulation on PC. I have a good PC, so it might be able to power through the often times poor performance, being PS3 is known to be hard to emulate.

I've never emulated anything past the PS2/Dreamcast but, as I said in my first post, I don't see anything wrong with emulation if the game you want to play can only be had used, with no money going to the creators.

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