Ninja Theory Clarifies Concerns on PS3 DmC Development

Ninja Theory is hard at work on the latest adventures of Dante in their title called DMC. Despite what has to be a hectic schedule, they aren’t too busy to converse with fans on their forums…and let them know all is well on PS3 development.

[MaideninBlack]

Everyone's fav Dante has something for ya.

[dangert12]

Bit sad to be fair ps3 is four years old and people are still not used to it while devs like ND made uncharted 2 in 18mnths and we know it wont be as sophisticated technically

[Godmars290]

Its sad that a launch title dev is still complaining about PS3 development four years after the fact. With examples like ND, Insomniac and Criterion, who have even done perfect multi-ports.

Never mind that these guys are using an old established engine, likely for all the complaining wont turn out something major or innovative in terms of gameplay.

[visualb]

developers have been able to take the best out of PS3, including Platinum games (this time around) so any excuse that its too hard to develop for, or problematic, or too complex, its the developers fault.

remember, a bad carpenter always blames his tools, and a bad artist always blames his paints.

what scares me is that, they are already doing damage control, yet no game has been shown =|

[solidjun5]

I wouldn't mind if it was another company who hadn't had much experience with the PS3 or who had limited experience (1 or 2 multiplatform games), but Ninja Theory created a beautiful exclusive in heavenly sword. It was gorgeous. It ran great and I really didn't notice screen tearing. Now, I know multiplatform development is different but with the experience they had and since they are creating the game simultaneously on both systems, I would have not expected this type of issue popping up with regards to Enslaved.

But now with DMC, it just makes you wonder. O_o
Hopefully it's not the case. Still, they have to convince the gaming community that the K.D. Lang version of Dante is going to be "cool."

[Why o why]

first outing and look how well they handled both consoles with Batman on the UE3. Guess some people are just more dedicated and talented than others... Way of life i suppose

[ExplosionSauce]

Well, UE3 wasn't the most PS3 friendly engine from the start. It's they're fault for making that choice in the first place.

[RageAgainstTheMShine]

Think that this new Dmc does not exist.

There, problem solved.

[lexington]

after 4 years developers are still to blame? Oh please.

[blahblah]

fuck, I hit agree by mistake, now i need to clarify

yes, i'm coding for life and i can tell you most coders are lazy. something has to become really, really needed to step into it and it helps if their lives depend on it.

i remember how lazy adoption of xml was in commercial desktop software. all the people i knew were using old and clumsy approach (either database or some binary file) few years after it was starting to get wide adoption. no matter how much time i wasted to explain why xml makes life easier, i couldn't persuade single friend of mine. but when country adopted xml as prefered interchange format for those applications they all moved on. funny thing is... one needed only few hours to get into xml logic, but they were still too lazy to make that step. everyone simply asked same thing... will it sell more for that?

same is with ps3 and its pipelined SPE approach (as far as optimizations go i doubt i can remember one single thing in computing which allows as much optimizing). except this is not few hours tour. one completely needs to adapt his thinking into completely different logic.

i was coding on ps3 linux (just few math apps) while it still existed, so my extent of ps3 knowledge is far from great... but... with every little thing i realized i always got enormous boost. you just have to forget most standard approaches. things like ordinary sync threads for example work piss poor when used in standard wrong manner (pc arch is so much more forgiving, but at the same time way more unreliable for optimizations)

[mastiffchild]

I like a lot of the guys work(Dante redesign is shit, mind)and thought HS was vastly under rated but the fact is that NT are sore about the lack of profit from HS to this day and shouldn't be when Sony basically saved their arses. It had started as, IIRC, an Xbox game that they spunked the advance for and was near death when Sony came in and allowed them to break even. Maybe if there'd been a better amount of PS3 buyers at launch everything would have been fine and their margins would have been bigger but he cannot deny the mismanagement that left them in a mess in the first place.

My best guess is that they still feel bad about losing the IP for HS but had they not been propped up by Sony(who rightly wanted something in return)then maybe we wouldn't be talking about them as a going concern today. I've plenty of time for NT but do feel they have a sore point about Sony when it's basically all their fault.

[Trroy]

Yes, developers are "lazy". What that really means is that the businessmen who run development houses don't *like* to have to pay engineers out of their budget, if they can avoid it, because they're expensive.

Hence... middleware. Like Unreal. Hence, bad ports. Like many 360->PS3 quick-n-dirty jobs.

The PS3, pound-for-pound, kicks the 360s arse. Dollar-for-dollar, however, many devs think the 360 is superior. If you see a good PS3 port, its the result of (A) experience on the engineers part -- from a past title which not all game engineers have, especially on the PS3, (B) investment on the part of the developer and publisher, or (C) brilliance on the part of the developer, who goes out of their way to embrace the powerful architecture the PS3 offers (case-in-point -- 1st shipped implementation of MLAA found in The Saboteur, which was a 3rd party multiplat game).

The PS3 is a superior architecture, techincally. The question is, is it superior _economically_, if you're making a multiplat?

More and more devs will work harder and harder to please their PS3 fanbase, as the PS3 fanbase grows, plain and simple.

[cliffbo]

they lost their best programmer and lead artist a while back they are working on Majin a similar title.

[bakasora]

Not buying!!

[ThanatosDMC]

^What are you talking about? There's only DMC1 and DMC3.

[morganfell]

That is true but this isn't the U3 engine from 2006. It has been fully optimized to run on the PS3 and that tired excuse from NT just doesn't carry any relativity in 2010.

[CrIpPeN]

how can they fuck up Enslave port when Heavenly Sword wasn't?

[Danteh]

I can accept the change n dante's look IF they explain what traumatic event changed his hair to white AND if at the end of he game he's the old ass-kicking Dante again :D

[The_Devil_Hunter]

Hehe, I love it. I say you give that finger to capcom too while your at.

[hot4play]

Yeah, this whole reboot thing was Capcom's idea in the first place. They just delegated the job to Ninja Theory.

[Yokan]

@hot4play
Your an idiot, what people hate the most is te fact that they changed Dantes image, he's an icon, he represents the badass action hero. Even if Ninja Theory rebooted the game, Its partially Capcoms fault or allowing such a drastic and atrocious change to one of gaming biggest icons.

[hot4play]

^^
@Yokan

Didn't you just contradict yourself?

"Even if Ninja Theory rebooted the game, Its partially CAPCOM'S FAULT or allowing such a drastic and atrocious change to one of gaming biggest icons."

What's the point you're trying to make again?? Stupid. You're the idiot here. lol

[Yokan]

My point being dumbass, is the fact you saying Capcom had nothing to do with the drastic change on Dante, you act as if they had nothin to do here when they do. So I agree give the finger to Capcom and to you as well. Go ahead and shove it up your arsenal while your at it. Dumbass.

[hot4play]

@ Yokan

This will be my last reply to you as I think you do not have the capacity to comprehend a simple message.

Read my first message. Again.
You said:
"you saying Capcom had nothing to do with the drastic change on Dante"
I meant the exact opposite. I was replying to Devil-Hunter and I agreed with him the YES, IT IS CAPCOM'S IDEA/FAULT.
Dumbass. LOL @ you

You don't even have to read between the lines, just TRY to COMPREHEND the things you read next time before posting idiotic replies. Wow. Just WOW. Have a nice day!

[DaTruth]

This is the dumbest thing about the internet; No one in real life would hear two strangers talking and just bust in and call one an idiot for his opinion!

On top of that, he called him an idiot and then agreed with him and backed up his point!

[EskiJoe]

Lol, so true and so funny!

[The_Devil_Hunter]

Ladies ladies, what's all the commotion. What's with all the name calling. Try expressing your feelings without name calling. I'm looking at you Yokan.

[wenaldy]

Give them fingaz!!!!

[chazjamie]

jip it already sounds like they gave up on the ps3.

[Zezo]

┌П┐(•_•)┌П┐

[Christopher]

I dislike the changes, but I will hold my complete opinion until we see the result through gameplay and storyline concepts.

As far as Ninja Theory... As a company they come off as extremely arrogant. They have some great motion capturing technology at their hands, but the way they bear themselves and their company leaves me thinking that when they and SCE had issues, it was because they wanted more than they deserved. I don't know, but they don't come off as the company that is grateful for Sony keeping them afloat considering everyone thought they were going to close and go out of business until Sony stepped in.

Either way, Ninja Theory, why don't you take some time to learn from exclusive developers like Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, and Guerilla Games. People you would freely be able to work with and share ideas with if you hadn't been the one current generation exclusive title creator who had problems with Sony (just saying, seems weird that everyone else loves Sony but you).

[Christopher]

***Wanted more than they deserve? What the hell is that suppose to mean? They made the god damn game not Sony.***

It means they weren't happy being a quality exclusive developer when it was Sony who pulled their asses from being unemployed and no longer existent. They got another chance and then they complain when they wasted their budget on their first title and didn't make any profit off of it because of how overboard they went with it.

[mrcash]

I'm sure they have their reasons. It's all business, maybe they don't have the time to learn from ND GG or whoever because they are soo busy trying to make more money. Whatever it is, it's obviously not stoping them from making great games.

[Ju]

Well, I agree with cgoodno. I get the feeling they are great artists and screen writers, but they lack the respect for the technology they are working with. As such, I think there is a disconnect between how they do things from a technological and focus on the artistic perspective instead. That's alright. But they seam to forget, technology is part of what they do and also requires certain investments to succeed. It is a mindset which is hard to grasp if you are not willing to accept that. Shortcutting it and using a "standard solution" (e.g. UE3) will not work. Sooner or later they will have to customize even that solution to fulfill their own artistic vision since no off the shelf middle-ware ever gives you that. They just will learn that the hard way (again).

[DigitalAnalog]

He is fully aware of the comments he give would garner sensationalist headlines. Have you noticed this guy ALWAYS, have to clarify his statements only leaving us asking more?

I can only suspect he really, TRULY hates the PS3. Here are my reasons:

1. 1.5 million copies on HS is underwhelming.

2. Brilliant engine on HS (released only A YEAR after the PS3's entrance) and yet made no modifications for it to be utilized for their current game, Enslaved.

3. Tries to manipulate the media to hype up his game's visuals and animations to compare to Uncharted 2 (even though it never touched the original Uncharted) and then "clarifies" this is NOT the case. And then further advocates he is considers ND the "best" devs.

4. Early reviews indicate that the PS3 has a lot more issues than the 360 version of this game (EG may confirm this), especially when a reviewer stated that one of the cut-scenes rendered Monkey "invisible". (GamesRader review). Even Rocksteady (Batman: AA) somehow with less experience on the PS3 manages to get it multi-plats right.... THE FIRST TIME.

5. No credit to HS as inspiration or anything of the sort. As if the game never existed in their lives.

6. Giving out heated subjects by claming the PS3's harder without ever clarifying his statements. It always HAS to be after a full flame debate on forums before he responds.

7. And he's not making life any better with his new "concept" of DMC. Saying it's "cooler" than the previous Dante. This may have nothing to do with the PS3 in general, but let's face it.. the franchise started on the PS2.

-End statement

[nycredude]

In his defense I think engine for Heavenly Sword is a propriety Sony engine. Sony funded the development of that ip and I believe is the sole owner of the engine and the source code.

[darksied]

It doesn't have to be because he hates PS3 so much, it could be any number of reasons. Maybe he had a bad experience with Sony on Heavenly Sword, it could have left a bad taste in his mouth dealing with them. Maybe it was too much work for too little reward. Who knows.

[jetlian]

you up... your just mad he isn't on sony ****!!! He never said anything about UC graphics and he wasn't even talking about UC2!! He said our animation will rival UC...1

And the engine for HS is totally ilrelevant. That game is nothing like this one. You only faught in small areas. In this you have wide open spaces and climbing. So your comparasion fails. Hell if you want even UC1/2 aren't as open as this to be compared. UC doesn't have a fighting engine either

[Ju]

Its not a proprietary Sony engine. It is NT code. But what do you want to do with it, if you can't afford the engineers who wrote it? It's just collecting dust on some harddrive with nobody left to maintain it let alone using it to update it.

[WhittO]

NT just stfu, no1 cares. They are like doing it on purpose to get in the headlines.

[Syronicus]

Better results attained. The PS3 is the more far reaching console so the more efforts spent the better the games will be. Same cannot be said about any othe console.

[Unicron]

Until you show me non-screentearing 60fps on BOTH systems, I'm not inclined to believe you... especially since you're using U3. Blech.

I wonder if Capcom will give the PS3 version special DLC a la DR2... I mean wasn't their reasoning that it's a "thank you" to all the fans who made the franchise a success?

[Simon_Brezhnev]

you know Scamcom wont do such a thing hypocrites at its finest

[Cloudberry]

.
However...

Let's see if Ninja theory & Capcom could pull a 60 fps using Unreal Engine for this game.

[TheColbertinator]

I wouldn't trust Ninja Theory with my lunch let alone Devil May Cry

[Apotheosize]

Who cares how bad or how well it runs on the PS3. This game is already trash.

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

Exactly, I didn't see people preoccupied over PS3 port, we're all worried that NT has been with this game few months and already destroyed more than half of what fans loved about it.

It's not that we don't trust NT for PS3 version, it's that we don't trust NT period.

[StarScream4Ever]

Devil May Cry is born on the PS2 and they are citing development concerns on PS3? No wonder why the Japanese devs are behind Western devs.

[MiloGarret]

Ninja Theory is from England.

[dangert12]

LOL funny

[StarScream4Ever]

Ops my bad. >_< I meant the Japanese folks that decided to handle this off to another developer that are more familiar with current gen instead of figuring out themselves, if so then we would've gotten the actual Dante in this game.

[Anti-Fanboyer]

EDIT:Developers have stated over and over that PS3 is different from traditional architecture of the PS2 or Xbox 360. That is why they struggle, otherwise they wouldn't required these "skills." It seems Sony first parties know how to handle it well, after all it's the only console they can develop for so they have more opportunity to focus and learn about how it works.

I love how people always think Ninja Theory is a Japan dev. simply because of the "Ninja" in their title.

[TheGrimReaper]

You are kidding aren't you?
The PS2 was a freaking nightmare...
If it wasn't for 360s total PC-like approach developers would embrace PS3s architecture (compared to PS2).

[Jazz4108]

What's sad is this gen will be over before the ps3 gets a decent chance at showing off what it can do. I feel the operating system of the ps3 and its dev tools could use a lot of work and therefore are not real friendly to whomevver uses them where the 360 is the exact opposite thanks to ms knowledge of software.

[Ju]

The generation is far from over.

The PS3 devtools are improving every day. They propably will never give you a way to do hard RT traces on high performance code spawing over all cores in the cell; and thus will always be hard to debug for.

But Egde tools provide a lot of code already to utilize the SPUs for things like vertex optimization, using pixel effects (filters/MLAA, etc) transparently with shaders without the need to go down to the metal.

People want things for free. If you want to do engineering, however, hiring some engineers will certainly help. Sure, college kids will figure it out, too, eventually.

[LoaMcLoa]

Why is there usually so many differences between the Xbox and PS3 version of a game? Like Bayonetta? Can't they just copy->paste?

[Unicron]

Actually no, they can't. Unless the engine is made with multiplatform development in mind, porting is rarely identical due to the intrinsic differences in the two system's architecture.

Couple that with a devs skill, time and budget, and you can get anything from Burnout or Vanquish (99% identical) to pisspoor ports like Bayonetta (which was actually done by Sega).

[WLPowell]

Devs have to build the game from the ground up twice.

[blahblah]

most of the software (at least 80-90%) can be the same if you use same engines. and even in case of different engines one can still make his own wrapper which is compiled differently per platform.

the thing that differs completely are things like memory managers, thread handling and how you built your architecture. another thing is load handling. usually that is a really small portion of the game code (but heavily defines final quality) that can sometimes be handled by tweaking when developers are lazy (like, if you have bad memory handling one can simply tweak lod and drawing distance to get around the problem. this results in worse graphics and more screen popping. but, hey... if you are lazy it surely beats days-weeks of profiling your code)

[Fishy Fingers]

No, they're different architecture (hardware set-up), each with their own strengths and weakness'. So it's always a juggling act trying to find a common ground. Depending on the engine that powers the game, it will favour one console architecture or the other.

Even the smallest difference like the GPUs (graphics card) ATI and Nvidia render in slightly different ways and give slightly different results.

Obviously you can go into much more detail.

Edit: Beaten to the punch.

[Fishy Fingers]

We havent even seen a screen shot and people are already "concerned"?

[colonel179]

That's reputation preceding them

[Godmars290]

Its complaining preceding them. There own.

[jukins]

im slightly concerned as devil may cry has , as far as i can remember, been a super smooth action game. and the two ninja theory games i've played so far (heavenly sword, enslaved) werent as smooth as they should be. but hey maybe the third time's a charm.

[jaosobno]

To think that series that owes all its popularity to playstation brand ended up in the hands of these incompetent fools that obviously don't have proper programming skills... It makes me sick.

It's funny how naughty dog, guerilla and others never complained on complexity of PS3 development and produced greatest graphical masterpieces this generation.

Ninja Theory - go *uck yourselves.

[xg-ei8ht]

U3 for dante,omfg.

PASS.

[dkgshiz]

The Unreal engine is trash. Its just a baby oil mess of an engine. Textures render really slowly on it.

[colonel179]

I hate developers that complain about the technology! Isn't that the reason to be developers? To have master the best tech there is?

I loved Heavenly Sword, and gave props to Ninja Theory for it, but I'm starting to hate them. These excuses are just to justify the poor performance the PS3 version will have, beforehand. All the time they use to make excuses, they should use it to optimize the PS3 engine, or make a call to Naughty Dog, Visceral Games, Santa Monica, Insomniac, o even Platinum Games, they have learned their lesson after Bayonetta, and did a pretty good gob on Vanquish.

[BYE]

Sadly, most of them just care about cutting down development cost and effort rather than bringing out the best out of current technology. Third parties devs want and may even rely on high profit from the least possible effort.

I think we will continue to see the most advanced games only from exclusive Sony developers, as they have the ressources that are necessary to show of what is possible.

[dkgshiz]

I still don't understand. NT made Heavenly Sword on the PS3 which was an exclusive....now they are crying about how they don't know how to develop a PS3 game? Enslaved looks pretty much identical on both the PS3 and 360. So WTH is going on here? Maybe everyone at NT has been getting really high on crystal meth since its been a long time since they have had to make this many games.
Edit: @ i_am_interested- Most likely. It makes no sense otherwise. Heavenly Sword was an amazing and technically stunning game. So it really shouldn't be complicated for NT to make DMC on the PS3. Yet, clearly during HS development. They had another work horse actually working on it.

[i_am_interested]

just goes to show you who was behind the tech of heavenly sword, scee

[ZombieAutopsy]

From what I hear they lost alot of engineers after Heavenly Sword so there goes most of the talent.

[MGRogue2017]

I hate to say it... But the 360 version will most likely turn out to be more superior in some sort of way.. I just know it.

Most likely better aliasing & less screen-tear

[wazzim]

You hate to say it because...?

Sucks for PS3 Dante fans though but it wont be that bad, I'm sure. Enslaved looked good on both.

Like always with gaming, multiconsole owners win everything.

[FwanK]

2 words...

Obsolete Engine

[Blaine]

aren't limited to development on the PS3. They're with "DmC" in general.

[LarVanian]

Clarifying concern about PS3 development? That was the last worry on my mind for a Devil May Cry game, especially after DMC4 turned out so well on PS3.
Here were my initial concerns
-A western developer making a game from an established Japanese series
-One of the most iconic and badass video-game characters ever being transformed into an ugly, disgusting Edward Cullen clone
-the possibility of the combat system getting a set-back
-the DMC series getting a pointless and unnecessary reboot

Now there is concern about the game performing badly on PS3? Honestly is there any reason at all to get this game? Especially for PS3 only owners?

[ngecenk]

if its not good enough, we wont buy it! as simple as that!

[Ares84PS3]

Also, N.T. made Heavenly Sword on PS3....how on Earth they aren't familiar with the system already????

[Unicron]

HS used a proprietary engine.

Enslaved and now DMC use Unreal.

There's your answer.

[IronmanRR]

UE3 is shiot combined with PS3...

[mrmikew2018]

Oh well hopefully they will take advantage of the PS3's hardware, but I seriously doubt it.

[N2G]

they're better @ complaining than they're @ making games.

[Newtype]

Haha, no wonder Sony did not care about Ninja Theory. They suck balls.

[T3mpr1x]

I don't know about that, Heavenly Sword was a fun game...

[BYE]

DMC will be fun, too. After Heavenly Sword and Enslaved, everything else would be weird.

As soon as people lay off their initial emotional outrage they will realize it's gonna be a good game.

[SandRazor]

I don't f***** care about what Dante looks, I just want to see some gameplay of the game itself, because Ninja Theory's Enslaved was amazing to me. Believe me, when they changed Cole back to a baldie, I wasn't happy but Infamous 2's gameplay was so awesome I just didn't care about Cole's apperance... So I'm saying I don't care what he looks like, I care about the game itself.

[SaberEdge]

I don't know, I actually like the new Dante. He seems like a person that could actually exist. I never once have met or seen a person that looks like the older Dante models.

In my opinion many people are being needlessly pessimistic. We haven't even seen any real gameplay. If the gameplay is good and the story is interesting I'll definitely get it.

[CimmerianDrake]

Because a punk looking British demon that kills monsters is more believable than a white haired, cocky demon that kills monsters. *rolls eyes*

[RELAX]

CAPCOM LET THE ORGINAL TEAM MAKE THE GAME

[PirosThe4th]

The original team is gone sadly ... if i was capcom i would gather all the talented devs that left and make them an offer to make the new Devil May Cry...
But all this bullshit westernization is ruining many games...

[UP]

To Ninja Theory: STFU and get your shit together.

[TheMutator]

hey Ninja theory dont work that hard, nobody here gonna buy that crap

[Dante_4ev3r]

Bloody shit ninja .. wat u have done to our DANTE ....

[Godmars290]

Not only have they handed DMC off to NT, by doing so they've proven that they couldn't have done any better.

Still, we should be waiting for the end result before judging. More than we have already anyway.

Not that NT complaining before anything's been shown isn't helping either.

[BrianC6234]

Why don't developers just shut up and stop telling us if one console is more difficult? I don't care. It's your job to make the games. Why tell the rest of the world? Now one dumb developer is going to cause problems for their company. The PS3 might be more complicated but it isn't that tough anymore.

[tanoris]

yea ninja theory is just horrible >.> especially after this DMC incident

[BYE]

So you're saying Heavenly Sword and Enslaved are bad? I disagree.

[RyuShinji]

New Dante sucks!!! Give us back our old dante! continue to DMC5!!
Will I buy this game? NO!!!! becuase I don't buy just any crap.

At least I know DMC5 would be awesome, even if it's just because of old dante!!!!!

Don't F*ck with our gaming icons you'll get burned!

[Grimhammer00]

While I love the original Dante....I like the new look too.
I'm just generally excited to see a new DMC...but if your listening NT, you need to add a butt load of combos and unlocks. Single player games shelf life is short...unless their are reasons to play past the ending.

[Organization XII]

no offense but you sound like a homo, why like this emo poser lookin fagget??

[Demarco156]

so they are working with capcom and they cant even learn how to use mt framework

this guys sucks

[kaixxi]

mt framework. ah no
they're using the Unreal engine 3

[Organization XII]

yes which sucks even more, UE3 is pretty ancient, lazy ass developers

[kagon01]

I'm not worried at all since I don't buy Emo trash...

[Organization XII]

yeah let them do whatever they want, we already forgot about it, let the twilight girls fans play that shit

[lonix]

a wait and see approach

[kaos_fish II]

Bad port incoming... Confirmed!!

[Thoreau]

white hair.....

[RELAX]

Ninja Theory dont mess with DANTE.
OR THE FANS GONNA KICK YOU A...

[spdarksky]

I think they can keep this Dante. But with some minor tweaks.

- Change the hair to white.
- Remove smoking.

There you got the old Dante but with renewed look. I think more fans will rejoice.

[bunfighterii]

well enslaved is worse on PS3 regarding frame rate and screen tearing, why shouldn't we think that they aren't doing a good job on DMC?

[Organization XII]

holy shit DMC using UE3??? another big reason to completely forget about the game..
DIE CRAPCOM

[LukeFair]

Hope that this DmC has at least the gameplay similar to the others Devil May Cry...

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

What a lot of you DON'T UNDERSTAND is that NT are rubbish devs, they hate everything about the PS3 and their best game is Heavenly Sword? that game sold like crap and Enslaved looks EXACTLY like HS because their engine was never updated.

They could've made HS on the 360 if they wanted to but the hype at the time was all around the launch of the PS3 so development of the game went to the PS3. HS was originally a 360 exclusive anyway so it's pretty obvious to anyone but a Sony loyalist why the game looked like a blurry washed out jaggy mess.

NT have no quality and their complaining just proves it even more, they clearly don't give a shit about the PS3 otherwise they wouldn't be complaining about HS's
1.5 million sales. The only reason why they complained about the sales is because they thought HS would sell well over 2 million sales due to it being a launch title, but obviously no one cared about the game.

Normally devs don't complain about 1.5 million sales, but NT complained because they were after the money and were shocked to have not reached whatever their target was.

[iliimaster]

i hate ninja theory and their attitude i purchased heavnly sword and loved it... it made me feel like i did not waste my money.. but all they do is throw mud the ps3s way... never talk about 360 they just talk about how its harder to develop and how they did not make anything off of the game....... well welcome to the world of xbox and glitches and mods downloadable games a full week or sometimes month before the game comes out exclusivly on the XBOX 360 mark my words the first week this game comes out there will be patches and glitches to make your experince points tripple and unlimited money or whatever

[iliimaster]

you know whats funny is i just checked it out and it is already available for download LMAO