Is Bioshock really all that?

Thank god for game demos. The game Nick Renqvist is about to talk (or more or less rant) about has recently got amazing reviews, and everyone loves it. Except Nick Renqvist.Nick Renqvist disliked it and just thought to throw in his 2 cents, though only based on the demo of it.

[InMyOpinion]

Maybe he should stick to clocking graphics cards. Gaming does'nt seem to be his thing. It would be nice to see what games he actually likes.

[closedxxx]

funny...
Anyhow. The demo didn't blow me away either, but you kinda have to be an idiot to think that a "The demo must, or at least should, present the best parts of the game"
That would probably end up being a spoiler of a demo if every game did that.
All the Bioshock demo did was pique my interest, and make me curious to at least rent it to find out what is really going on.
It looks great, it controls great, the demo has some enemys with some great AI, and I thought it gave a good general slice of what the game has to offer, right down to the few things you can hack.
If the opening scene didn't impress him graphically, he is definitely jaded

[ericnellie]

One guy, one demo, and one silly a$$ opinion/review but hey, you can't please everybody;)

[heroman711]

im gonna not agree with this guy. from what ive been hearing bioshock is amazing !

[Captain Tuttle]

Makes me want to punch him in the face. He's just trying to be the "anti -hype" cool guy.

I'm loving Bioshock and am having more fun with it than any game in recent memory. That being said, all the 10/10 scores that this game has gotten are a bit overblown...it's not without it's flaws.

Edit: I will say that this game deserves scores in the high 9's. It is superb.

[kurac]

Why? What's wrong with his picture? He's a good looking guy.

Maybe MS payed big money for great Bioshock reviews and bad Lair and Warhawk reviews. I'm downloading a demo so I'll see for myself.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

there is so much production value and thought that goes into this game and the fact that it is a new ip and such a huge gamble. This game deserves the perfect 10 scores it got. Hopefully it will encourage game devs to make new games instead of the same old junk. No game is PERFECT of course.

[Captain Tuttle]

Didn't have my coffee yet.

[kurac]

np

[kurac]

there is a discussion about his rant:

http://www.yougamers.com/fo...

Edit: @darx
It's just my gay response to all those "female tits and a$$es" avatars. Maybe I should refresh it a bit, I'll try finding something that is more in line with PS360ROCKS avatar. A gay version, 'fcourse.

[darx]

Worst avatar yet!

[Capt CHAOS]

:-)

[PS360PCROCKS]

yes darx it's distracting trying to read something with the annoying avatar. I see myself in the mirror everyday that's the only guy I need to see.

[kurac]

LOL @PS360ROCKS

Funny you saying that cause I find your avatar the most disgusting here at N4G, of all the other disturbing female avatars!

[PS360PCROCKS]

Lol hey now if two women want to lay on top of each other and take a picture so be it! Guys on the other hand, um just no haha. I was only kidding anyways, I was just saying that I see that everyday in the mirror don't need to see it on here, lol.

[InMyOpinion]

I think it's funny. Tease the homophobic bastards. Their immature avatars only represent the lack of sex they are experiencing =) Hard to get any when you live with your parents. If they knew what you nickname means they would probably run for their lives. It beats me.

I mean, if it's ok for you to shower with other naked men after working out how can you find an avatar displaying a torso offensive?

[nomuken]

Good Times

[N4GayFanturds]

Well (if it does come to PS3)you'll be about 2 years older and it'll prob be choppy & sluggish.

PS3 = Phor Sloppy 3rds

[ThaGeNeCySt]

His opinion blows lol

[Zhuk]

this game is the real deal, its refreshing to see something new.

[HowarthsNJ]

It borrows alot from Half-Life 2. The developers even cited HL2 as an inspiration.

I got that impression even before I read about it.

I like HL2 so I'll probably like this too, but it's nothing really new.

[urban bohemian]

If you've ever played the original Fallout games (as in 1 & 2) you'll see similarities too. Its really nice to see.

PS - I'm very jealous of all the US gamers Bioshock doesn't come out in the UK till tomorrow. I think I've played the demo 5 times and watched my brother play it another 5 times. Heres a tip asell, although Hard mode is greyed out on the 360 version you can access it by changing your profiles default setting to hard mode and then it will let you play!

Yes I can see myself becoming a bioshock geek, then a halo 3 geek, then a gta geek then a mgs4 geek. Also My playstation 3 gets dirty so quickly, dust finger prints everything....any tips to stop that?

[DethWish]

Wrap plastic foil around it :P

[tudors]

If you cannot find anything to like in Bioshock you are clearly not a true gamer.

[The Real Joker]

I am completely loving every min of it. I haven't had this much time in a long time. Bioshock may very well take Game of the Year and it would deserve it IMO.

[M1am1U]

It's a great game, and I think it deserved every great rating given to it. I've had a blast with it so far. Like all things, it's not for everyone, and apparently this guy is one of those people.

[Rooted_Dust]

I only have a few issues with Bioshock. Over the graphics aren't all they were hyped to be, some objects in the game don't cast shadows, and ragdoll death animations seem choppy. Other than that this game is absolutly amazing. I would give it a solid 9.5.

[Mikey_Gee]

Opinions are like a$$holes, and everybody has one !!

[tplarkin7]

Some random guy plays the demo and trashes the whole game. I don't care about anyone elses opinion, but my own. A reviewer is supposed to tell me if I will like the game.

[DethWish]

A reviewer is supposed to state his own opinion, how the hell can he know if you'll like the game or not?

[PS360PCROCKS]

people are complaining on that guys page about TOO many enemies? They obviously don't know how to play the game. The game is different for everyone but you're supposed to use your surroundings to make the game do your killing for you with the gun turret things and plasmids. Obviously won't dispatch of everyone but it helps.

[Tesla]

When some guy was spitting MGS4 demo. They just want attention. The point is that Bioshock is great game.

[Numbman]

Bioshock is an 8.5 in my book,, GREAT game but not the godly. The great reviews it got feels a bit like MGS2. the weekest MGS has got the best scores propably on reviewer hype alone. Makes me think that there is a lot of prestige in the reviewer community, if the big cheeses gives a game a certain score (good or bad) the rest of them only follows.

But nevertheless. Bioshock is Great, but in my opinion it doesn´t deserv the amazing scores it has got so far.

Bioshock +
Great visuals, both technicly and artisticly.
nice character costumasation
good story.

-
Don´t have to fear death. you just respawn instantly.
Not much variation in the surroundings.
a little too jerky in the visuala. Could be my 360 thou.

[MK_Red]

No only BioShock is all that but its much more.

[sticky doja]

Maybe they should have thrown in the part where you get the shotgun for the demo, that would have had him sold. That part, if any of you guys have been playing the game, scared the pants off me and my girlfriend. The game keeps getting better and better above the demo. I wish I didn't have to turn it off last night to go to sleep, havin a job sucks.

Edit: Or maybe they should have thrown in the part where you go into the dentists office and look into the drawer when all of the sudden a cloud of white smoke covers your eyes and you hear scuffling. The smoke clears and you can see again, you try to back up but are stuck on something, you turn around and....Yah maybe they should have put that in there, dont wanna ruin it for yah, just play the game.

[sajj316]

I like his rant and yes I've felt the same way while playing the Bioshock demo. I however will not base my final judgement on a demo. Bioshock is an atmospheric game where the developers have found new ways to do old things. Where is the innovation in that to warrant a perfect score. When I think of 10, I think of a genre defining game. Bioshock to me is not it.

If you want to see genre defining, go get Half Life Orange and play the Portal game. I would love to see Valve make a full game out of this concept. By the way, I don't like Half Life, but I can respect innovation.

[Delive]

Would this game benefit from a Multi player component? Not just a tacked on one.

[Coconutz919]

Whether you like the game or not, the words "annoying" and "boring" being repeated over and over are the worst excuses you could ever give for not liking a game.

[Azurite]

hmm, his view of demos is completely different from mine.

My view is that developers take extra time(it does take extra time) to create demos to quell the thirst of annoying people.
I dislike demos since they usually suck and do not give the real feel of the game anyway, they make me lose my appetite so to speak.
Demos are a waste of my and the developers time imho.

[Rageanitus]

Any PC gamers out there that play the game.

I don't want to buy a game that is overhyped like what happened to the halo franchise (imo halo was hyped by the xbox community)

[urban bohemian]

Why does a wrench suddenly appear as soon as someone asks you to find a crow bar. No search its just there, they could make it less scripted that really makes you feel like your playing not in the game. Theres no button to auto reload plasmid juice stuff on he 360 its annoying. And then thats it from the demo. He couldn't point anything else out and he hates FPSs.

I'm going to buy it tomorrow when it comes out here in the UK.

Before everyone thinks I hate bioshock - I think it is the NUTS

Also does Blue Dragon really come out in the UK in two days I haven't seen it advertised anywhere and its not on any online preorder charts e play.com. Maybe Bioshock is going to overshadow it?

[RedSoakedSponge]

u reload a plasmid with the same button (X) but u just have to have a plasmid selected fool lol.

[sticky doja]

But why would you want to refill it before it completely goes out? That stuff cost at least $20.00 and is hard to find. I like that it waits till its completely out before it gets refilled personally.

[urban bohemian]

But Sweet !

[CNIVEK]

...Vanilla Ice was a video game critic now. The poor guy just seems to suck at everything he tries. :o

[sticky doja]

Thats funny, bubble for you.

[Munky]

Yes

[kn]

There are so many next gen games that come oh so close but leave something on the table -- be it sound, graphics, voice acting, story line, atmosphere or whatever. The reason this game has received so many great reviews (10s) is because it provides a full experience without any one thing glaring in omission. It is rare that games are so fully well rounded and so well done. This is an artful masterpiece of a game and there's no denying it. How many games have come out in the history of gaming have really accomplished that? Not many...

[Rageanitus]

...

[BrainDrain]

Yes, the game IS that good.

[HaKeRsCanRotINHEL]

Yes & a bag of chips! :)

[jay3]

I was going to say that!

I'd put a tirade of abuse on you if i wasn't terrified by your avatar!!

:P

[HaKeRsCanRotINHEL]

For I am Death incarnate! ;)

[Saint Sony]

Haha, futuremark.. lol. They think they do all the coolest GFX to date when they release their new sh!t. WRONG. They don't even know how to do graphics.

Anyhow, we all have right to dislike what ever we want, but this Nick Wankvist feels like a total failior. He bashes the game just because he likes to bash it without a decent reason, oh and I bet he feels so damn cool. Futuremark.. lol. Nick Wankvist.. double LOL.

World does not want to know what this little titwank thinks. This it not news for gamers.

[yoshifett]

I know someone said something to the effect of "there's always going to be one guy going against the hype, trying to be cool," and that's clearly this guy. The Demo was great, but I put 5 hours into that game yesterday, and it's just scratching the surface. And for people saying it's just like HL2...hahahahahhaha...wow, dumb.

[jcgamer]

nuff said...

[IQUITN4G]

I'm very much looking forward to getting into this but i do wonder if the story is what has compelled the game to be talked about so highly.There was nothing i could see that stood out as being in any way bad about the demo though and i guess you do have to look past this limited showing in anycase.I must confess to not having an orgasm while playing in Rapture but obviously there is a whole lot more sandbox and perhaps the whole thing just comes together so well that it plays better than anything else.I do have concerns however i must admit.

After playing the demo , i remain pleased at the idea of playing Bio (preordered the big daddy version) but right now i'm far too excited at the prospect of playing Halo3 and finishing the fight.Fingers crossed concerning Bio and to be honest , no game gets such high marks across the board if it sucks.

[Xbox is the BEST]

Yes

[Bill Gates]

I don't know if it's "all that", but I do know that it WILL be coming to the PS3.....AAHAHAHHAHHHAHAHAHHA

Drink my Oil XBOTS!!!

The XBOTS are just devastated......AAHHAHAAHA

[khellendros1]

It's ok for this guy to not like this game. Yes I want to play it and I'm waiting patiently for my friend to get it but that doesn't mean I'm going to like it. Just because a reviewer says its' the best game on the planet doesn't mean you have to agree. I don't like (gasp)...Halo or GTA but I do think Gears is one of the best games of this system generation. A lot of people accept things because everyone else does. It's ok to have your own thoughts and your own opinions.

[JustInTlME]

that guy is retarded. the game is amazing, i got home with my copy yesterday after work and played for 5 hours straight. i cant wait to get off work today to do the same.

[VirusE]

I agree the game is amazing. I played for about 5 hours and i just got the nade/rocket launcher, I am fighting the rivet big daddies and i got the plasmid that makes machines switch to your side. All i can say is wow. When a big daddy stomps the ground and screams the sounds is just amazing! It's funny to me how in most of the reviews they complained about the vital chamber making the game easier yet they failed to mention that EVERYTHING (even the big daddies!!!!!) constantly respawns. If you kill a big daddy and don’t harvest his little sister ASAP another big daddy will come to help her!

[sticky doja]

I haven't quite made it to the first little sister, although I know I am close. I was gonna try to save the little sisters without harvesting them (for the achievement) so how can I save them if the big daddies just come right back to her? Maybe I should just play through and harvest them all, and play through again and try not to on an easy setting or something. I'm playing on the hardest difficulty my first time through so it might not be the best idea I guess.

Edit: At Virus, I know some of the enemies will heal themselves at the healing stations. It has to be that way because when you hack a healing station it then says that an enemy that tries to heal itself will be harmed. But good point.

Also on the comment about the vital chambers, it does respawn you, but with very little health and plasmid, pretty much like goin back to a checkpoint.

[VirusE]

Doja the thing is when you appear in the chamber all of the enemies you have hurt are still hurt so in theory you could kill a big daddy with a wrench. So if you are low on health packs it may be better to die than use a health pack since you loose no progress.

I sent you a PM about the big daddy. Good luck they are tuff as nails!

[Adamalicious]

This guy sounds like he's being contrary for the sake of being contrary - ie. if you want to get some web hits you're better off saying Bioshock sucks when a million sites are saying how awesome it is.

I don't see how you could be a fan of gaming and have his opinion.

[NextGen24Gamer]

I have been playing video games for many many years. I own every console. And I honestly believe Bio Shock is more than just Game of the Year. Its definately in my top 5 games of ALL TIME. As much as I love Gears of War and Halo. Bio Shock is a fantastic gaming experience. WOW....Halo 3 has competition for game of the year. But I guess we can't leave Mass Effect out of the running either....Bio Shock is definately a system seller. If you love video games. And you prefer consoles like most gamers do....Get an xbox 360 along with Bio Shock, Gears of War, and Halo 3. You will be more than pleased with your decision. Those 3 games are clear reasons to jump in if you haven't already. If you have the HD setup in your home....Surround sound, HD Television, ect......I would reccommend the 360 version over the PC version. But if you have a standard tv but have a maxxed out top of the line computer....go ahead and get the computer version. I have both and I enjoy the 360 version more. Why?

1080p 61 inch DLP TV. And Full thunderous surround sound in the comforts of my living room. I just enjoy the all around experience alot more than in front of my 26 inch LCD computer screen at my desk with mouse and keyboard. But thats just me. And as it seems...Most gamers are with me on that. That is why 360 games that are also on the PC sell much better on the console. More gamers like gaming on home consoles than PC's. In regards to graphics....if you have the right home setup...the graphics are very close. I actually like the game on the 360. 1080 x 1920 is amazing and it runs incredibly smooth. The lighting and shadowing effects are top notch....and the AA is perfection. I just can't rave enough about this game. It deserves all the 10's its getting. WOW

[Si-Pie]

I honestly dont see the point of this article! If this guy doesnt like the game then fair enough with me. I love it and anyone who has ever played system shock 2 and loved that will love this game to. I played the demo and loved it and the game will be so much better but that doesnt mean everyone will love it. Everyone thing in life is based on personal taste and this is no different. I love this game before ive even bought it and im sure many more people will love it to but if someone says to me they hate it then no skin off my nose as they are entitled to their own opinion.

[marc 1975]

they have never rated a game 10 /10 so they rated 9/10 but they are really picky

[otherZinc]

Yes, this game is the SH!T!

[g4n]

its not all that... shooters target audience are teenie boopers. It works well for them, you can play 15 min of a shooter and actually get some action. Its important to keep it at 15 min because that the average time a tennie can sit still before they run to the bathroom for another yank session or prance around the neighborhood saying the F word.

[VirusE]

Obviously you have not yet played the game. It is very deep and filled with intelligent references to philosophy and morality.

[Why_So_Serious]

i know that some people are not gonna love BioShock but why is it important what Nick Renqvist thinks about the game

[Stormflood]

...there are times when you can't ignore such high critical praise. Until I saw the 10/10 scores rolling in one after the other, I had little interest in Bioshock. I'm still reserving judgement until this Friday, but I'd be a fool to not give it a try.

[xm15e2s]

I'm glad to see that this thread got back on track. For a while there it looked like it might turn out like this...