PSM Warhawk Reviewer Worked For Official Xbox Mag Beforehand

For those PS3 fans disappointed with PSM's latest Warhawk review, you will find this interesting:

PSM: Independent PlayStation Magazine, Future US Inc.'s leading publication devoted to coverage of Sony's console, has appointed Rob Smith as Editor In Chief. Prior to his position as Associate Publisher for both magazines, Smith contributed as Associate Publisher of Official Xbox Magazine (OXM) and before that, as Editor In Chief of the publication.

[chasegamez]

just like i said

[ngg12345]

I knew this would come to happen sooner or later. 1up owned oxm, egm, and psm. I was waiting for everyone to blame them sooner or later, because if I recall they were the people who stated that they were willing to bump down warhawk's review if it was 40 $'s or more.

[jwatt]

I remember them saying that it shouldn't be 40 dollars or more.

[Ri0tSquad]

Bad review I would love to read what he said about it.

[Gamespot-equals-EGM]

1up said if Warhawk was over ****$30**** then they would deduct 1 point from the review.

$30 not $40.

[Gizmo_Logix]

OPM, PSM, and EGM!

Even a few months after the PS3 launch PSM were saying things that were anti-Sony. Crazy black propaganda! And we all know what happened to OPM. They got axed.

[Xbox 360 Will]

i'm canceling my subscription.

[metalgear8877]

But i was in the beta, and this is definantly a high AA to low AAA game.

[ALI-G]

worked for microsoft, that is why BS3 is crap
Also EA/UBISOFT/2k Devloper all worked in MSGS that is why their games suck in ( ExcuseMEstation 3)

[JsonHenry]

This matters somehow?

He isn't the only reviewer less than satisfied with this game...

[akira]

i believe theres a lot of black propaganda going on againts ps3 especially now that great games are coming up. just a reminder to all of you who loves the ps3 just play the games first, demo or rent it then judge it by yourself. because starting from here on in a lot of ms viral marketing are going to be very active. so enjoy our awesome games and also now is gonna be a good time to say thank God i bought a ps3!! alright peace ya all!!!!

[Cole]

This is ridiculous. It seems as though it is just not about the consumer anymore. It is all about money (and always has). I played the Warhawk beta, and it deserves at the very least 90/100. It may not have single player, but the multiplayer is super fun.

[Whoooop]

I have to say this has turned into a circus..

I can't imaging all the news, rumors, BS articles etc. that will arise from september 1 till the holidays..

It's going to be HELL.

[MK_Red]

Nice find but was that a really xboxic review. We don't even have the full review yet. Still, interesting find.

[HeartlesskizZ]

I was specting somthing like it.

[chasegamez]

ps3 rules

[Double-Edged]

Kudos!!

[HeartlesskizZ]

If this is with Warhawk then i cant imagine what it would be with Killzone2.

[ngg12345]

The game may get low scores, even if it is the best fps (not saying it would be), just for being the sequel to a mediocre game.

[hotshot1237]

hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahaha that article gave me a 6 pack in 1 minute..............gotta hand it to um..

you know what i find funny though. is that. when good reviews come out for a ps3 exclusive like the 9 for lair and the 9.6 for warhawk, 360 fanboys say make in an excuse about the reviewers not being will known.
then when a bad review comes, they say it was a flop and throw it in your face............AND THEY HAVENT EVER PLAYED THE GAME. they go completely on a review and then judge if a game is good or not. ....................

I SWEAR 360 FANBOYS DONT KNOW WHAT TO SAY ANYMORE......................I F THEY EVER

FOR EXAMPLE NOBODY REALLY KNEW ABOUT EGM BUT AS SOON AS THEY GAVE LAIR A BAD REVIEW, they became official to 360 fanboys. like when heavenly sword got 9.7, THE MART said, these reviewers arent even well known and then said, he'll wait for EGM. .......................i bet he never even heard of egm until he found out they gave lair a bad review

[The BS Police]

Are fanboys mentally insecure that they would go and blame Microsoft for all bad reviews?

"OMG this game got a bad review, microsoft must have paid them off, even though chances are the reviewer actually felt that way about the game"

Get over it, it was one review, if you don't agree with it move on with your life.

[Double-Edged]

don't mind Madden...

He's lost it... seriously.

Just ignore his rude and childish behaviour and keep posting Mature comments.

Kudos!

[The BS Police]

And Take a midol.

[Vavoom]

Okay, here is a guide to manage stress for all of you meatheads out there that get up in arms over stupid sh!t.

NEVER STRESS OVER SOMETHING THAT YOU CANNOT CONTROL, IT WILL EVENTUALLY KILL YOU OR MAKE YOU KILL SOMEONE ELSE.

So what, the guy use to work for xbox magazine, he's a professional journalist, I'm sure he's not going to risk his career and reputation over a stupid $40 video game or an ignorant console war. If he didn't like it, he has every right to rate it low. But, here's what you do, if you think the game is going to be great, then for GODSAKE BUY IT!

If you find later that is sucks, so what, it's only 40 bucks. Unless of course you as so screwed up in the head that you are more concerned that a SONY video game got a bad rating than you would be about possibly wasting your money. It's your call.

But, for goodness sake, don't blame the guy for being bias because he didn't like the game. Let me guess, if the next batch of EA sports games get low reviews for the PS3 will if be Peter Moore's fault because he use to work for MS. PLEASE! GET A LIFE.

[DEADEND]

This is the reason why most of the time I don't go with what they say, I only really on 1up, ign and gamespot. But this game deserves a 9 or more, its a AAA title and everyone knows that. I wonder what the 360 fanboys are going to say about this.

[Gamespot-equals-EGM]

Gamespot = EGM = 1up

EGM editors used to post reviews on Gamespot a few years back. And all 3 entities (GS, 1up and EGM) are all owned by CNET.

[DrPirate]

1UP and EGM not owned by Ziff Davis and part of the 1UP network.

Not CNET
Not Gamespy (IGN)

[Gamespot-equals-EGM]

The company Ziff-Davis is owned by CNET thus Gamespot, EGM and 1up are all owned by CNET.

http://news.com.com/2100-10...

[Omegasyde]

Ziff Davis does own all of those entities. Wanna know the killer? Editors from EGM and 1up REad N4G. In fact you could be talking to one....

on the other hand it seems IGN is the only place to get a decent un biased review as of late. Even 1up forums and comment boards got overran by so many 360 fanboys, that there were insulting everything Sony including a TV tuner that no one has seen.

[Rhezin]

LOL!!! omg!!! your only digging yourselves in a deeper hole. DON'T BLAME JUST FACE THE FACTS

[TeaDouble_E]

[@RHEZIN, you've never played the game. and you definitely need an education because opinions
AREN'T facts. if a opinions were facts, then there is no need for MULTILPLE REVIEWS BECAUSE THEY WOULD ALL GET THE SAME SCORE. thank god for the ignore button, to save me from IDIOTS like you]

You deserve a bubble hotshot : )

[ktchong]

Now that's a smear campaign - it's a personal attack on the reviewer just because the reviewer gave a PS3 game a low score. It reminds me of the "Swift Boat" political tactic used by Republicans/GOP. It's despicable and disgusting.

[Rythrine]

I know its one review and he shouldn't be attacked by it. But the thing is when he stepped in as new Editor-in-chief for PSM, he already stated how he envisioned a perfect ps3 controller. Its an xbox360 with Wii motion controls. That's not the right way to be liked by long time readers. Immediately, he showed how he favors the 360. Everybody is entitled to their opinion but to state something like that in a PS magazine is pretty dumb don't you think? It was not the right place and the right time. After I read that section, he lost all his credibility from the get-go.

[hotshot1237]

ARENT facts. if a opinions were facts, then there is no need for MULTILPLE REVIEWS BECAUSE THEY WOULD ALL GET THE SAME SCORE. thank god for the ignore button, to save me from IDIOTS like you

[HeartlesskizZ]

I can feel the big , I mean huge Tsunami this is causing.
the title could of be "more then meets the eye"

[EskiJoe]

Moore meets the (PS)Eye...

Don't worry its just a joke

[zakupilot256]

The real point of all this is that Warhawk is a game that could only get a score like that because of a personal bias. I played the game, no lag, no crappy framerate issues, its FUN!!!, addicting and just does not suck. Its a fun game. It does not need a single player mode. The the vast majority of beta testers loved the game. It was a well balanced war game. You cant have fun with bots. bots suck. Seriously, I call shenagains!!!

[DrPirate]

I'll back this up.

It's not a ten, it doesn't have enough maps or a refined enough third person infantry mode to warrant a perfect mark. But my God, it's a great,exciting, thrilling game.

It's not a ten, but I wouldn't like the word on the street to be that this game is a 7. It's definitely up there with alot of Multiplayer games I've played.

[Gamespot-equals-EGM]

Can't have fun with bots? Not true.

Ever play Unreal Tournament? If a player is just starting out, trying to get the hang of a game, playing with bots is fun (and instructive).

[zantetsuken]

Rob Smith was originally from PC Gamer. PC gamer absolutely hates Sony and the PS2/PS3. Smith has blasted it before in PC Gamer (PS2).

Keep in mind PC Gamer also went around during the PS3 launch and offered custom $7,000+ computers to people who would give up their spot in line and sign a contract agreeing to never purchase any Sony console products for 10 years.

I have no doubt he's biased. Isn't this the same magazine that was advertising Gears of War?

http://www.pcgamer.com/arch...

[DrPirate]

After seeing certain people post here. I would take that with a grain of salt.

[zantetsuken]

Would you like me to scan the PC Gamer segment?

I think it's a bit ridiculous to go out of your way and bribe potential PS3 buyers. If they're willing to go through those extremes, who's to say they wouldn't fudge a review on purpose?

[Dr Pepper]

Wow, some people really need to grow up. People have better things to do than join a Playstation mag just to give bad scores to games (if he wasn't a respected person and they felt he was too biased, why would they give him the job?). Not everyone has made it their life goal to bring down the PS3 and Sony.

[Rythrine]

You're one of the Xbox 360 owners that I respect here but read my 13.1 post. That's the reason why I think there some, maybe a little, biased opinion about this and that's why I'm not taking his words seriously. Maybe they hired him because of his experience, who knows. I mean he worked with a lot of magazines before.

[mistertwoturbo]

are you sure about that? there really art people who really really really really really really hate sony and the PS3. For what Reason? Because they own a xbox360.

i personally think fanboys are really stupid. all of them. sony or xbox or pc or hd-dvd or blu-ray or any of them. they're all stupid.

[Dr Pepper]

@ Rythrine

Hmmmmm...

I didn't know that he made that comment, and that is something he shouldn't have done (at least if he was trying to earn the respect of his readers). That's a low thing to do and I can see why some people would think he's biased (but it might just take time getting used to the new situation and representing a new console now, people should wait on their judgments to see how future reviews turn out, or other events). Interesting...

[Rythrine]

I couldn't believe it either. After I read that, I told myself "Wth is this guy doing?" If he didn't like the controller, PS mag is not the right place to say it especially it has a million of PS readers. The following month's issue, he admitted he received a lot of hate mails for that section and he was apologizing. Why not right? That's got to be the worst first impression for a newly-appointed Editor-in-chief. I wish they bring the old editor back, Chris Slate. He made that magazine comical and very entertaining to read. Regardless, like you said maybe just give him time to get situated. I'm still giving him the benefit of the doubt. Right now, he's stating that he's enjoying MLB: the show. Now I don't know if that's sincere or he's trying to redeem himself but we'll just have to wait and see.

[Clinton514]

This site hit a new low. Retaliation news.

[Jdash24]

retaliation news is news nontheless

and dont disagree because its important for gamers to know that a bad review for a AAA ps3 exclusive on the psm was written by a bias 360 fan

Edit @below

that is way too true man, crazy fanboyish actions negativly impact all gamers and how there viewed by the rest of the world

[Clinton514]

But these type of actions only make the gaming community as well as our hobby/industry seem like a joke.

[Lumbo]

Before i start: I have preordered Warhawk(retail) and i look forward to play it, i don't give a flying fck about reviews.

That aside Clinton is RIGHT here, this "news" is pointless and without any merit. Whats to be gained by posting random blabla regarding the past employments of any magazine editor ? If you get the game and after playing you disagree with the posted part of the review then take the consequences, cancel the subscription if you have one, don't buy it anymore. But posting crap on n4g won't solve anything. This kind of "news" only result in a fanboy comment slugfest.

[junk56]

you can't just blame this guy because he hasnt done anything wrong. switching mags doesnt make him a fanboy or anything, its just a different job.

his review he wrote was crap though, saying no bots? wtf? 60 bucks? u get a frickin headset worth like 50 bucks here in canada. Not to mention every single beta tester said this game was amazing and fun (unlike lair where it looks painful to play) so how can u justify a 6.5 score when beta testers have all positive responses?

[zantetsuken]

He's publically bashed Sony and their games before when he was the head editor at PC Gamer. After that he went to XBM and continued the Sony bashing, then 360, now PSM?

[toughNAME]

and you thought sony fanboys couldnt sink any lower?

disagree if you think they can sink lower

[Bloodmask]

I own 360, Wii, and also PS3. Look in my games BIOS, it is quite old but accurate.

I know that most people would see me as an xbot. But I am not Anti-PS3. I am solely Anti-PS3 fanboy. And it is moments like this that I am glad I chose this path.

Never in my life have I beheld such ignorance. To actually rationalize that a human being would go and seek out new employment for the sole purpose of degrading a competitors product.

This is stupidity in it's utmost form. There are important things to dedicate your life to. Like a career, family friends, girlfriend.

To actually dig up this BS and post it. Not to mention it actually gets approved.

N4G what has become of you....

[ngg12345]

If you were so anti-ps3 fanboys, you wouldn't have reported most of the crap that you had reported. Maybe that gta 4 was unplayable on ps3, and xbox 360 it was completed, or maybe some of the other terrible news 'that I report lame to'. I hear alot of garbage, but certainly this has to be the biggest I've seen out of all the comments right now.

[Bathyj]

Now I call bullsh*t on that.

I can remember when you first showed up here Bloodmask.

You were blatantly cursing Sony and everything about them and going out of your way to try to get everyone to disregard everything Sony.

Seems you changed your tactic a little. To dont TELL people what not to buy anymore. Your trying to be a little more subtle, but there is no less hate, as every remark you make is something you hate about Sony or PS3. Like the other more raving Bots you dont even talk about what you like about XBox anymore. Seems no one hardly talks about xbox.

If you say you have a PS3 I say your were either a FKN lair then, or you are a FKN lair now.

[Lumbo]

lol, sorry Bloodmask, but that just made me laugh. I mean REALLY, it takes some balls to tell such a huge LIE with a straight face.

People know you for what you are, a rabbid X-Box fanboy of the same level as all the rabbid PS3 fanboys you now blame for your crap.

I agree with Bathyj here, except flames you never added anything to this page, so if you claim n4g being on a low, you are one of the reasons it is that way.

[Bloodmask]

Don't you see how well it works??

You guys both responded. And don't insult my intelligence Lumbo as every post I read of yours that is what you try to do. Give some self absorbed high tech jiberish just to make yourself feel better. Does it really make you fell superior to call somebody a lier on the internet?? Especially about a video games console. Obviously some of the things I say must get under your skin.

And Bathyj you are one of the biggest trolls on here. Always touting the true next gen powers of the cell and Bluray disk.

Whatever guys. It's all in good fun. And I have said it many times that I have no problems with PS3 just the constant overhyping of products that gullible people actually believe. Such as you two.

I'll tell you what I will take a picture of my setup and post it as soon as I can with a handwritten message so you won't accuse me of dirty pool. Will that be good enough for you??

[Bathyj]

Nothing you ever do will be good enough for me, unless its to hold your breathe for 10 minutes.

How on earth does talking positive about something I like make me a Troll. You see, its the exact opposite. Its people like you, who cant physically keep their lips pressed together and must trash the opposition on every occasion, that are Trolls. You are so heinous you cant even tell you're a monster anymore.

[The Wood]

who on earth would buy something they loath so much. Forget all this hype sh*t because all products are sold with some form of hype and the ps3 is starting to deliver. You either have more money than sense or your just a tw*t. Calling bathy a troll is rich coming from you. You constantly dismiss, downplay , rubbish all things associated with sony and the ps3. I can even understand having a joke or banter but thats not what you do. I would hate to listen to your voice on psn b*tching about everything under the sun even that its free. Please, please sell your ps3. The serious gamers cant stand ya.

[Darkiewonder]

I was just perusing the news and read the review got a 6.5 and then followup with an excuse.

Geez. Just get the game, play it, and away with all the lame excuses. Really, life before the internet people bought games without reading about reviews but now, it looks like it's how people choose their games.

so crazy.

[Why_So_Serious]

get over it people

[The BS Police]

They fail to realise that reviews are not facts.

[Maddens Raiders]

I LOVE TROLLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! !

It was once written in ancient script that if there was no PS3 news on News 4 Gamers, that there would be a 100% increase in N4G TROLL suicides - eradicating the troll population in a single night.

Please, I beseech you all stop posting PS3 news IMMEDIATELY so that this prophecy will come true and we can read and talk in peace without all of these LICE, TICKS, FLEAS, and LEECHES!!!!!! SUCK ME DRY!!!!!

Fucccccing Ninnyhammers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get a life.

=]

[Leg-End]

but r u on drugs or somethin 2day?

[Double-Edged]

one one side.... the beta testers and some are even here on N4G really claim that the game is really good.

on the flip side: 6.5 is way too low and makes the game questionable.

as for the Magazine worker. I dunno....i say 'bah'

[Tommie]

Their always finding ways to hide the bad news. Come on Sony fanboys: Warhawk just isn't THAT good as you hoped it would be. Lets wait for IGN and Gamespot reviews, and not some lame ass fanboy review like Next-gen Ireland.

[Ps3Fanboy777]

A lot of beta testers are standing behind this game.. Personally im trusting my fellow gamers and buying warhawk, this is frankly pathetic...

And wtf is the matter with reviewers now a days?

[MikeGdaGod]

as someone that was in the beta, i know 100% this game is a sh!tload of fun

[ShiftyLookingCow]

we already know he is the editor but he is the reviewer for Warhawk also? me thinks PS fans shouldn't a give a damn this, wait for better sites. For many of you, since you already played beta and know its fun, you dont even have to bother about reviews

[Like a shadow I am]

Now this is just tasteless. All the despicable Sony fangirls launch a smear campaign and personal attack on a reviewer just because he has worked for OXM? It's a JOB. It has absolutely no bearing on his reviews unless you have proof that he is biased or accepted bribe from Microsoft.

For these despicable, disgusting, classless Sony fangirls to attack a reviewer and suggest that he might have taken bride is simply because he gave a low score for a PS3 game is just... LOW. This needs to be reported as an absolute new LOW. This is a tasteless and despicable smear attack against a person who has an opinion different from yours.

I hope all the other reviewers out there see this news, so they will be shocked by how low all the PS3 fangirls can go to tear down anyone who's not a Sony slimeball. You should be ashamed of yourself, you pathetic little worms.

Tasteless and despicable.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

"accepted bride from Microsoft." lmao

[nix]

"bride"?

since when did MS start pimping? q:

[power of Green]

Doesn't mean anything other than he has a higher standard for games if you wan't to say anything about his employment history. lol You Sony people are a different breed.

[airforcex]

What is wrong with you? First, lately N4G seems to favor SONY. If you read the HS review posted you'll notice how the reviewer lists Warhawk in the same league as BIOSHOCK and Metroid. Second, these magazines do this all the time, and sometimes reference their counterparts (xbox magazines reference playstation magazines), because reviewers know each other, and colaborate. If a game is OK, it's just that, OK. Lair is not great; get over it. Stop crying. Warhawk may be fun, but its not that great. In part, magazines are guilty of hyping crap in order to sell; recently they haven't been afraid of saying how much games suck despite the hype. Don't be surprised if Halo also gets low scores; or MGS4. Stop crying. GET OVER IT.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Ok you guys ...you silly fanboys are too much! I love it...its conspiracy I tell you! He is an MS plant sent just to destroy our beloved PS3! That guy from EGM who gave Lair the bad score is in on it too! They are all in on it! Everyone...even the guy at 7-11 sellin the Halo 3 slurpee's! He is totally in on it!

Seriously get an F'in grip! It was just a review...ditch your stupid conspiracy theory paranoia and realize that there are some reviewers out there even in the Sony Mag that may not care for Warhawk.

[The BS Police]

The guy at 7-11, good one.

In all seriousness, I agree with you that the fanboys are way to paranoid.

[FirstknighT]

HAHAHAHA!!!! Oh man....this is fun times for us 360 boys! :) And HORRIBLE times for ps3 girls :(

The ps3 is so falling apart! HAHA

[power of Green]

I'm glad people are seeing the way Sony fans really are they've been this way sence Xbox they're really are a different type of people "for the most part"(lots of Gothic Anime loving "anti the world types" that hate the Man etc.)

[gEnKiE]

omg...this is an embarrassment to all ps3 owners out their. why the h3ll would something like this get posted or even approved?? who gives a sh**?

[Maddens Raiders]

my medication wore off.

Back to normal.

I apologize for my behaviour to all, everywhere. These are only games.

Goodnite N4G.

[Leg-End]

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[CaliGamer]

I see a lot of people here questioning the significance of this information.

Its called conflict of interest, and the definition is (A conflict of interest is a situation in which someone in a position of trust, such as a lawyer, insurance adjuster, a politician, executive or director of a corporation or a medical research scientist or physician, has competing professional or personal interests. Such competing interests can make it difficult to fulfill his or her duties impartially. A conflict of interest exists even if no unethical or improper act results from it. A conflict of interest can create an appearance of impropriety that can undermine confidence in the person, profession, or court system. A conflict can be mitigated by third party verification or third party evaluation noted below—but it still exists.)

In laymans terms and for the purposes of this situation, he worked for a blatantly anti-Sony publication, and allegedly made very anti-PS3 comments recently and in the past against Sony. Now he works for a "Pro Sony" publication and low and behold there is this low score that is opposite to all the positive reviews from gamers who were part of the beta. This information might not be grounds to "smear" the guy, but it's certainly something to keep in mind.

Conflict of interest is a huge deal, but as I said in a previous post I will believe the many positive comments from beta testers that I have seen over this guys review any day, and with this new information there is even more reason to disregard this.
I will see all free thinkers online on day one of this games release.

[Rythrine]

Very well said. You deserve a bubble for the insight.

[MikeGdaGod]

i was totally against the game since it turned multi-player only. but after playing in the beta, i'm going to be first in line to get this game.

i don't know if this is a setup, but the game is definately an 8 or higher. and this is coming from someone that before the beta, had decided i wasn't buyin to game at all. that beta changed my mind quickly.

[JokesOnYou]

Did you ever stop to think that he just might be a guy who went to school for journalism, eventually got a good job at OXM and based on his professionalism PSM hired him to work for their magazine?, which means its possible that this guy did his job and after playing the game felt that this is the score it deserves.

In fact I think its much more likely that sony kids are biased and upset because they believe anything with a ps logo on it deserves a high score by association. sony kids are really painting themselves in a corner= what will you say if other reviews are low, lower or near the same range as this one?= what will you say?, please do NOT say everyone is biased, its viral marketing, please do NOT prove yourselves to be that gullible, for once sony kids please prove me wrong, have some dignity=

JOY

[chrno]

o no another xbox fanboy. Seriously, ppl don't bash the editor simply because the product has a sony logo, but because it is seriously a very fun game. Get a brain, really.

[Ogrekiller]

Looks like the game's suffering from what I call the "Shadowrun" syndrome.

[DarkArcani]

I always think a group should review games. Its kind of like a court case. You wont judge someone with one juror, why would you judge a game with one reviewer.
Think of it as a survey. If one person tries Pepsi and they stop the survey, the survey outcome is either that one person like or hates it. thats why they use a group to evaluate a consensus about the opinions of the people towards a product.

[akira]

i believe theres a lot of black propaganda going on againts ps3 especially now that great games are coming up. just a reminder to all of you who loves the ps3 just play the games first, demo or rent it then judge it by yourself. because starting from here on in a lot of ms viral marketing are going to be very active. so enjoy our awesome games and also now is gonna be a good time to say thank God i bought a ps3!! alright peace ya all!!!!

[Zhuk]

wow, I am amazed that people actually believe that just because he worked for an xbox magazine that this guy is out to get Playstation. You guys have to get outside more.

[schabeugen04]

but c'mon on guys know way is this game a 6.5. I'm not saying its a 9 0r a 10 but its definitely in the 8 to 8.5 range. I mean I hear all the negative xbox fans but have any of you actually played it? I mean honestly is there anybody out there that was in the beta like me? The game is a definite 8 at worst. I mean i was in the halo beta and that game was great and if they gave it a 6.5 i would defend it too. I mean can anyone think of what this guys cons are?

[CaliGamer]

is how even on the PS3's worst news day, it still gets more comments and hits than any 360 news from both camps. Cute.......

[schabeugen04]

so the game get docked for no bots that is bs in that case why dont we dock every multiplayer game that doesnt have bot like r6v, graw 2, halo 3, forza, socom, gears of war etc... that is total bs to dock point for no bots. this guy is being nit picky. I mean damn a.i. has not even advanced far enough for it to be good in a game like warhawk. While it may work for a game like ut3 where they a.i. is just programmed to shoot you. in warhawk the a.i. would have to be able to go from shooting you on foot to chasing you in a jeep to dogfighting you in a plane, and still remember whatever the objective is. I mean sure dock a game if it was possible but c'mon it impossible for warhawk to have that level of a.I. on any computer or console currently on the market.
*edit also bot are a feature just like four player splitscreen. do reviewers go docking games for not having splitscreen? the answer is no and they shouldnt. it not a standard feature. i could understand if this was a fighting game with no two player but no bot c'mon

[DethWish]

UT3 isn't just shooting :) It has just as much of an objective as Warhawk has, have you heard of Onslaught?

UT2004 bots was quite smart, although cheating in some occasions and on harder difficulties :/

[Leg-End]

which 5 games should i get not including gears of war?

[DethWish]

Does this matter??? This is the lamest excuse I've ever heard, it's better if you READ the review and see what he didn't like about it.

Isn't what made it get that score more interesting than the score itself? Don't bother with scores, just read the reviews......

[Babylonian]

That explains alot.

[00]

you fanboys are to funny.

[Lex Luthor]

AAhhh..... Do you fanboys feel better now?

Warhawk was never AAA triple material, face it guys. Stop being so paranoid. Go write a petitiion or something if it makes you feel even better.

[SofaKingReetodded]

this had been an ex-PSM employee who gave Bioshock a 6.5 these retards would be up in arms right now trying to send the cops to his house.

hipocrites

[Wii60_FTW]

he works for sony now. he told the truth. warhawk is just another bad graillstation game. sorry. you're stuck with that thing. deal with it.

[timmyrulz]

If he comes from xbox magazine then he is used to playing quality games so the guy is been honest, seriuosly though do you think that because he worked for another mazagine it will predujice his reviews? if so i think you have smoked too much weed!

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

Here in Brazil, the publisher of Official Xbox Mag (Editora Europa) have also PlayStation magazines... The guys even stand that they have gone to E3 and, in the same edition, that MGS4 is multiplatform, just because OXM told so...

Pathetic ¬¬

[HateBoy]

I hate fanboys, from both sides, but honestly... This has got to be the most pathetic thing i've ever seen in the flamewars. So right now the ps3 boys are looking juuuuust a little (mind, little) more pathetic than the xbots.

[AngryHippo]

....complete losers and need to grow up. This story is complete cr@p. Who approves this stuff?! I totally agree with HateBoy, this is pathetic.

[Lightning Mr Bubbles]

It's a value game that's online only. It's not a full fledged killer app. Already you have some people talking about Value VS price = Review

Yet it's 59.99, but it includes a headset. Don't forget.

about this reviews, who knows could be an XBOT reviewing it. But the other score gave it a 9.6, that pretty high for being a bad game.

[jay3]

All of you whiney little fanboys just shut up. The guy wouldn't give it a bad review just because he used to work for a 360 magazine, now you douche's are just using this as an excuse for a crappy review. What the hell are you doing here saying "Oh, well I like it!" Well great, what's posting here going to do? It's all the same crap.

You're not going to change anyones opinion. You're just taking up space by posting these comments.

Agh! Sorry about that, i wasn't calling every PS3 owner a douche but just the ones who are whinging about it. If you can respect this guys opinion, but not go by it, great. But moaning your ass off is just plain annoying.

I apologise. I'm just irritated.

[Lightning Mr Bubbles]

You're a pathetic XBOX 360 fanboy so F*ck you. Who's the whiny little B*tch? YOU!!!!

[FirstknighT]

Thank you for proving his point Lightning! Now go tell mommy that you did a poo poo!

[jay3]

I just typed a big ass reply but my internet messed up, so i'm gonna just say, read the last part of that first comment and stop acting like immature dipshits.

[QuackPot]

It's merits or value should be judged on the points made

AND

backed up from feedback from the players of the game.

Hmmmmm?

Review --> 6.5/10

Beta Testers --> It rocked big time!!!

Again, hmmmmm?

[Chris399]

That is the crux of the argument here that everyone seems to be up in arms about. Let's review.

Will they (the reviewer) be purchasing the game for me based on their opinions? No.

Who exactly is playing the game? Well, me, obviously.

That said, do I really care what someone else thinks about the game? I don't think so. Will they be sitting on my couch playing it with me? No. Will they be saying - in my ear, as I play: "The frame-rate is a little iffy. I'm unimpressed with the implementation of the sixaxis." Um, again the answer is no.

The only ones whose opinions I care about are my gf (who likes to watch pretty things - big fan of the HS demo), and on occasion my cats (they have a genetic oddity where they can actually see images on the LCD t.v. - in essence they watch me game.)

I'm still of the opinion that most game reviewers these days are clueless. A majority of these people have no background in English or journalism. Why is this important you ask? It leads to articulate, sensible reviews and journalistic integrity. By my approximation, there is little to no journalistic integrity in the gaming media. Most of the people involved are simply guys (and it is for the vast majority men) who like games. This alone does not make a journalist.

Take a look at Kotaku. Great site, but it's a gaming BLOG. A self proclaimed opinion piece site. Why are people who do OPINION pieces treated with the same respect - passes to gaming events, access to gaming media, responses/ interviews with gaming figureheads - as a REAL gaming publication?

That would be like a journalist at the national enquirer being invited to attend a media screening. My point is, they are not. They are left to dig scraps and supposition. They are not treated as journalists because they report rumors and do not substantiate their facts. This is called a lack of journalistic integrity, and almost EVERY gaming publication is guilty of it on some level.

Sad thing is, as there is so little sensible media for gaming, we (myself included) turn to Kotaku and like sites for our information.

So, in wrapping up this ramble... Buy Lair, HS, Warhawk, Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata or whatever your fancy is. Who gives a sh*t what people say, so long as you are comfortable with the money you spent. Make the decision yourself as most of the people offering you advice on your purchase really aren't "professionals" at all.

Cheers,
- C

[Meus Renaissance]

R.I.P PSM

[FirstknighT]

R.I.P ps3

[bootsielon]

He used to say that PlayStation Magazine reviews don't matter for playstation games! That you were gonna wait for 1up, EGM, Gamespot and at least 8 other reviewers to see the games. I guess reviews from PlayStation "exclusive" magazines don't count, unless they give bad reviews. (That includes nexgenireland, PSM, and so on)

So the MART has double standards... Who would have thought?? The same happened when Nintendo Power reviewed Metroid Prime. Since he has no qualms against Ninty, he couldn't care less about how it was made by a Nintendo review.

I'm not saying company mag reviews don't count... I'm just exposing theMart's lack of consistency and overall hypocrisy. It's funny, he even cites THE WORST of reviews when convenient. So, instead of citing three respectable magazine or publication reviews, he cites the three different EGM scores (the worst scores out there). Instead of waiting for everyone to review Warhawk (AS HE SAYS every time a good score comes out)

By the way, Marty, "AAA" doesn't mean getting above the 9.0 mark in metacritic, shove that inside your thick skull. AAA means titles with the highest of production values. If reviews don't coincide, oh well. You could say Resistance is a AAA title, given the resources invested in them. It's like blockbuster movies... many of them suck according to critics, but make millions. THOSE are AAA movies. Not movies that are applauded by the critics. Same applies to games. And by the way.... games don't have to be AAA to be good or system sellers... after all, Geometry Wars was the only thing that was selling Xbox 360 at launch.

[FirstknighT]

Get a life dude. Your thinking way to much from some guy you don't even know.

[bootsielon]

An N4G celeb that is. Xbots love him, everyone else hates him. That's why I actually find his inane words bashable when he has to eat crow. I wouldn't give him so much sh1t if he didn't believe himself to be the prognosticator of prognosticators. He thinks he is a prophet. A legend in his own mind. He lives in a fantasy world, and therefore, is a fanboy, in the end.

Just like you.

By the way, you tell me "get a life", but why do you even bother replying then?

[bootsielon]

I bet the female editor was fired long ago, unless the whole magazine was paid by Microsoft to talk. She said she didn't want a PS3... lol, way to do HER JOB. HER JOB is LIKING the PS3, otherwise he shouldn't be working there in the first place. Or can everyone work in any magazine just because they're supposedly qualified to write, even if they don't like the products or services they will review? Oh wait, I see they also recruit former Xbox only employees. So I guess anyone can do whatever they want...

I guess I'll start writting about NFL tommorrow, even though I severely dislike it... I can write after all, so I should be qualified to give my opinion about how NFL SUCKS.

(I know it doesn't suck, it's just an example)

[Leg-End]

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[snoopgg]

Reviews are like assholes, everyone has one. Try the game out when it releases, if you like it buy it. Game reviewers are just like movie reviewers. I couldn't tell you how many movies I watched that received so so reviews and I ended up liking. I have had the same experience with games. Rent the game, if you like it buy it, and if you don't then leave it on the shelves. This is better then taking anyone person's opionion anyday. Yours is all that matters. Wow thats not too hard is it.

[Real gamer 4 life]

But i mean every single person that played the beta test said the game was good, i dont understand how can it get a bad review. If the the game was truly bad then i dont belive that all the people that said he game was great would have. literally there was no one person that played the beta said that the game was crap.

[TheFatOne]

All these comments crack me up, but seriously if he gave it a 6.5 and ign and 1up agree its ok but if he gave it a 6.5 and ign 1up etc.... give it 9 then this guy is in some serious trouble and he put the mag in jeopardy. I think i'm going to agree with the beta testers on this one.

[TheFatOne]

All these comments crack me up, but seriously if he gave it a 6.5 and ign and 1up agree its ok but if he gave it a 6.5 and ign 1up etc.... give it 9 then this guy is in some serious trouble and he put the mag in jeopardy. I think i'm going to agree with the beta testers on this one.

[zonetrooper5]

OMFG TEH PSM GOT PAID OFF BY M$HIT HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHHAAHHAHAA , WARHAWK SO RULES MANNNNNNN.

God you guys are acting like complete retards, and why approve it, I wish you could report news stories on the actual main site so then they can get deleted. Stupid article approved by stupid people.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Sony fans you sink to new desparate lows each and everyday and everytime you do I get this big fat Xbot smile on my face.

There is a new PS3 sku, comes with Blu-Ray movies, games that score 8 and under, no rumble, gimped system tech and a big fat box of WHINE.