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Sony takes jab at Microsoft, says 360 is 'reliant' on shooters

Take one look at the 2010 lineup for the high-definition consoles and one trend becomes - shooters are big. This holiday season, Halo: Reach, Call of Duty: Black Ops and Medal of Honor are set to dominate retail, while games like MAG and Battlefield: Bad Company 2 were big hitters at the beginning of the year.

-Alpha4985d ago (Edited 4985d ago )

Well, it is true. Not that that's particularly a bad thing-- I don't find the genre that bad if the games are good. They have Gears & Halo as their top games and they are great games. Sony has just as many shooters with MAG, Killzone, Resistance, and Socom. But the key here is diversity in exclusives, in which case MS lacks. MS doesn't necessarily take the risks with their titles. It'd be nice to see them take some bold steps instead of relying on what they know works. And truth be told, shooters work. Especially games like Gears and Halo with a majority of American gamers. MS really knows how to appeal to that crowd. No matter how fed up people may be with how many shooters are here this gen the genre still juices out AAA titles.

Considering the fact that the American market favors the 360 and the shooter genre, it's no surprise that MS's most successful games are shooters. I think that they even said they are working on another exclusive shooter after Halo. If the game is good, then sure, more power to them, but it'd be nice to see them put hard work in other genres.

ActionBastard4985d ago (Edited 4985d ago )

Shhh, you'll upset people. Even though it is true.

Lord_Doggington4985d ago

seriously why do companies gotta hate on each other like this? sony has just been whine whine whine all year

evrfighter4985d ago

Sony beginning to nerd rage....lol

Boody-Bandit4985d ago (Edited 4985d ago )

Aaron Greenburg and Don Mattrick are here dark and they would like to have a word with you.

Game-ur4985d ago (Edited 4985d ago )

At least MS cater to their fan base and make sure it's happy and satisfied, Sony has a big core of JRPG fans that only get maybe one decent game an year.

So far the only games rating over 8 are Folklore, Valkuria Chronicles, FF13 and Demon Soles. And to understand the size of this fan base just look at the sales of DS and VC, they are almost at 1m despite having almost 0 advertizing.

Another interesting thing is that JRPG fans in the west outnumber the ones in Japan, the western sales of FF13 VC and DS are almost double the Japanese numbers, the thing is they only buy the good stuff.

Edit: also hate MS stringing JRPG fans with its early effort and then going cold turkey, remember a couple of years back they announced 4 or 5 exclusive JRPGs in one show. now it's only "securing" multiplatform games.

Joule4985d ago

All you guys act like Greenburg doesn't brag about just about everything, every damn week

rdgneoz34985d ago

@Game-ur Its spelled "Demon's Souls" not Demon Soles, and "Valkyria" not Valkuria. Also, White Knight did pretty good as well and had a nice online component to it.

Anton Chigurh4985d ago (Edited 4985d ago )

I can't Imagine playing a shooter with a p!nk c0ntr0ller

-Alpha4985d ago (Edited 4985d ago )

@Game ur

I do think that JRPGs are the one genre that I want to see more of for the PS3, as I find that the PS2's lineup was the gold standard and far ahead of the PS3 at this time in its cycle. Games like Dark Cloud, Final Fantasy X, Dragon Quest, and many others were at their peak.

This gen the best JRPGs are on the DS. But we do have that new game from Level-5. Wish Valkyria Chronicles 3 was coming for the PS3 though.

As for WKC, that game disappointed in scores, though I can't say anything myself as I didn't play it. JRPGs this gen have fallen short. FF13 was one of the lowest rated of its series and lacked much of what the genre is known for and games like White Knight Chronicles weren't Level 5's best

ActionBastard4985d ago

You'd prefer to point your finger? LOL!

raztad4985d ago

@alpha

PSP has a very good line up of J-RPGS as well.

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J-RPG genre is already passed its peak. Nobody should expect a return to the golden days, and much less a return of turn-based rpgs.

Japanese rpg devels prefer to make low budget games on portables, than AAA on consoles with not certainty of return. FF is one of the few big seller j-rpg franchises than defy the rule. But come on, we got Disgaea 4 with much nicer visuals and improved gameplay, WKC2 is looking much better than WKC1 and the new cellshaded game by Level 5, looks very promising. There is some stuff to look forward by RPG lovers on PS3.

But who said PS3 is all about RPGs? variety is the key word here. cant wait to try TLG. However we cant fool ourselves and no realize a huge chunk of PS3 fanbase is shooter addict and one of the best selling games on PS3 is COD.

Biggest4985d ago

"At least MS cater to their fan base and make sure it's happy and satisfied."

I think that is the best comment in this thread. It's nice to know that the 360 fan base has been waiting for Kinect all this time and are happy and satisfied with what Kinect is bringing. There will be plenty of it for the 360 fan base to enjoy in the coming years.

Game-ur4985d ago

@rdgneoz3
Sorry, I was to full of rant to pay attention, TGS was a big downer for me I had high hopes for it, but it was full of disappointing news, the DMC tragedy, VC3 on the PSP (they already have the Canvas engine on the PS3), Sony showing off multiplatform games.

@Alpha-Male22
The handhelds are may source of JRPG fix right now, but don’t match the scale of an HD game. Almost every other genre is well covered on the PS3, a lot of AAA FPS, Action/Adventure, racing and casual games coming, only short on AAA JRPGs.

There are games like Persona5 (hopefully using Catharine's game engine), Ni Nu Kuni, FFF13 vs. and the Tales PS3 game that are all hopefully AAA class. But we don’t know the release dates. They may take anywhere from 1-5 years.

@Biggest
I'm sure they love it, because they rave about it all the time. /s

outrageous4985d ago

Sony is in no position to throw stones as they have lost billions and billions trying to be something there are not...a hardcore gaming system.

M$ owns hardcore gaming with the best on line, controller and OS in the business. Sony has been the " me too " console and the sales reflect that. MW2 for example sold 3+ million more on 360 than PS3. The same could be said for many multi-platform games that look, play and sell better on 360.

Sony left there demographic behind this gen and while the Asians refuse to accept M$ as an alternative, M$ is still millions ahead going into it's 6th year and the only system worth playing this holiday.

Where are Sony's big hitters from yesteryear??? Crashbandicoot has turned into UC with half the sales, GT had 10 games on PS2, Slycooper has turned into Infamous. Ratchet and Clank is there tho not the same with multi-player and co-op changing the gameplay significantly. GOW has sold ok but not moved much hardware and while on line is free, Sony's been releasing games like GOW and HR with no multi-player, co-op or even DLC...O_o...Mag, Confrontation and warhawk with no single player components to pull people in...Sony's a mess. There best looking game by far, KZ 2 sold 2.3 million on the wrong console. That game would rival Halo and Gears in terms of sales ( 5+ million ) if it was on 360.

Now what...Sony Move, new Tv3D with glasses...Sony doesn't get it and probably never will...it's Nintendos motto this gen..." More fun for less money "...Well said Reggie.

M$ for there part have made huge strides in a very short time and they are not letting up. Windows 7 with XBL connectivity and gaming, PC gaming is making a return from M$ with Fable 3, Age Of Empires, M$ Flightsim and rumors of ALL M$ published games going to PC. Kinect is being supported in a big way, both by M$ as well as the dev community at large. They just launched a new and improved 360 S...M$ is killing it right now THIS year. They have said they have many games in the pipeline and are actively looking for a new FPS to call there own.

M$ spent and continue to spend a fortune on games like Lost Odyssey, Blue dragon, Alan Wake, Forza, Mass Effect, Too human, Viva Pinata, Kameo, Banjo-kazooie, PGR, Crackdown, Fable, Ninety-nine-nights...etc...is it M$ fault those games have not sold as well as FPS's???

The market will dictate what they want...MW 2, Gears and Halo showed that loud and clear.

skrug4985d ago

@outrageous

"M$ owns hardcore gaming with the best on line, controller and OS in the business."

All of that are subjective. PS has more variety of hardcore games than MS.

best OS? are you talking about the OS on 360? if so why did they change it 2 times? from the blades to the NXE , and soon the kinect interface?

"Sony has been the " me too " console and the sales reflect that. MW2 for example sold 3+ million more on 360 than PS3. The same could be said for many multi-platform games that look, play and sell better on 360."

Micrsoft has been a "me too"; mii/home -> avatar, kinect, from no HDMI to HDMI , HD-DVD (blu-ray), from a console with no wifi to 360s having wifi etc ..

"Sony left there demographic behind this gen and while the Asians refuse to accept M$ as an alternative, M$ is still millions ahead going into it's 6th year and the only system worth playing this holiday."

ahead, not by much, with 1- 1.5 year head start.

"Where are Sony's big hitters from yesteryear??? Crashbandicoot has turned into UC with half the sales, GT had 10 games on PS2, Slycooper has turned into Infamous."

Crash Bandicoot was on the PSone, i think you mean Jak and Daxter.

"M$ for there part have made huge strides in a very short time and they are not letting up. Windows 7 with XBL connectivity and gaming, PC gaming is making a return from M$ with Fable 3, Age Of Empires, M$ Flightsim and rumors of ALL M$ published games going to PC. Kinect is being supported in a big way, both by M$ as well as the dev community at large. They just launched a new and improved 360 S...M$ is killing it right now THIS year. They have said they have many games in the pipeline and are actively looking for a new FPS to call there own."

so their turning their backs on the 360 now? since if the games are going to PC, what games would you get on the 360 that you would on PC?

Kinect.. weren't you saying somthing about hardcore?

JoySticksFTW4985d ago (Edited 4985d ago )

I'm glad you told the millions of PS3 gamers this before they went out and wasted their hard earned money pre-ordering those imaginary GT5 and LBP2 games

(That was sarcasm in case you couldn't tell)

But you must think those titles suck anyways, don't you

Mello out man and go play Reach. It's getting great reviews. Enjoy it.

kancerkid4985d ago

And what is everyone waiting for on the PS3?
Killzone 3

Give me a break. Shooters sell on both consoles

blue7xx74985d ago (Edited 4985d ago )

No it's not true there is variety on the Xbox 360 just most games that are outside of the FPS genre don't sell well. But there is variety on the Xbox 360 just because games like Viva Pinata don't sell millions like Halo doesn't mean they don't exist.

The truth is that the Xbox 360 hardly has any FPS that are exclusive the only ones I can think of are Halo and Perfect Dark other than that they don't have any other FPS on their console that is exclusive. I don't understand why people say the Xbox 360 only has FPS when it barely has any. Anyone else care to name any other FPS exclusives besides the ones I mentioned. The truth is PS3 actually has way more FPS exclusives then the Xbox 360.

Biggest4985d ago

"And what is everyone waiting for on the PS3?"

Killzone 3. . . AND LBP2, inFamous 2, FFXIIIvs, Team Ico Collection, Last Guardian, Gran Turismo 5 to name a few. Oh snap! Only one of those are shooters.

skip2mylou4984d ago

kancerkid@ how many of those people are white? look at japan they are waiting for JRPGS but they have a good dose of everything, RTS, FPS, action, strategy. right now they re waiting for MvC3 and FFvs13, and arent playing the bullshit sales game

Smkt4984d ago

this is funny because the top selling games on the ps3 are mw2, gta4 and cod.w@w...

Amplitude4984d ago

Did you guys even read the quote? All he said is "Sony has titles ranging from Killzone to EyePet". That's it.

Like, do you guys even read the article? or do you just bawww in a long-ass paragraph of nothingness for no reason other than to complain?

FA-SHO4984d ago

You my friend are toooo funny! I must be imagining GT5, The Sly Cooper Collection, and the ability to buy all the previous Crash Bandicoot games! Silly me!

ExplosionSauce4984d ago (Edited 4984d ago )

You think "hardcore" gaming equals shooters?
So Sony is a mess because Heavy Rain doesn't have multiplayer? And Warhawk(an online game) doesn't have single player? Really? Don't you have anything to play?
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@Blue7xx7:
PS3 may have more FPS games like you said, but I don't believe Sony is reliant on them.

ExplosionSauce4984d ago

Both companies/consoles benefit highly from shooters.

Also this article was taken a little out of context. Sony was simply stating the diversity of games that they aim to have on PS3. Everyone else just jumped to conclusions.

RageAgainstTheMShine4984d ago

Hmn ... interesting Alpha but what does this fact tell about the millions of shooter gamers? Does this reflect the average American shooting gamer's mentality?

Is it their appetite for violence, killing, hurting, blood and gore?

This is no different than american wrestling and mixed martial arts.

I am glad I have a PS3.

GT 5 & LBP 2 in particular.

salinidus4984d ago

so giving its fanbase a purposely faulty system, an inferior format media(dvd) for gaming and forcing you to pay$70(now)for peer to peer online serivces will still not giving you a web browser is catering

if so eat up cause ms has more to come.

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iamnsuperman4985d ago

Well with the announcement of Microsoft looking for a new FPS exclusive its hard to deny

sinncross4985d ago

Well just the other day MS said that they were going to invest in FPS's now that Bungie has left Halo.

So, in reality it is true: MS are reliant on shooters to get their audience.
But yes, it works for MS, but their first party studios till lack the variety which both Nintendo and Sony offer.

Lord_Doggington4985d ago

i suppose it's also safe to say that nintendo relies heavily on platformers...

btk4985d ago

Mario, Zelda etc
Nintendo has the market for kids sewn up well this gen.

-Alpha4985d ago (Edited 4985d ago )

Nintendo does platforming games like nothing other this generation though. You could say LBP but the game's platforming was relatively weak in comparison and that game was all about creating and party fun. It was billed as a platformer, but the platforming was nowhere near Super Mario.

Nintendo games are charming. For kids? No, I don't think so. I enjoy "kiddy" games so long as they aren't patronizing to "hardcore" or older gamers. It's the gameplay that appeals to me, regardless of age target. You can act as if you play mature games because you are a mature person, but age has nothing to do with fun or quality of a game. There is a certain magic with Nintendo's gameplay that I absolutely adore, and I have zero problem with the cutesy charm of its games.

In regards to shooters MS doesn't have exclusivity in offering the genre. Yes, Halo and Gears are great, but you also have so many other competing shooters on other platforms, and Call of Duty is a monster multiplat title. I think Halo raised standards and still is the most complete MP offering across the genre, but again, there are just as many other shooters. You can't say the same with platformers and Nintendo.

Nintendo is still quality when it comes to their exclusives, and I find after this year's E3 that they are finally listening to their core. SMG2 has a 97 on Metacritic, and everyone here loves to use MC when it's talking about the 360 or PS3, yet conveniently, SMG2 has been swept under the rug. I guarantee that if SMG2 was on the PS3 or 360 we wouldn't here the end of all its perfect scores and universal praise.

Also, I think Nintendo does have diversity in their games, more so than MS. I suppose if anything you can argue that they rely on old franchises.

MisterAV4985d ago

SMG2 is good but not so good. A least LBP tried something new and took some risk. I don't think I'm the only one that don't like very much Mario in every iteration... maybe the high ranking on metacritic is for the big name MARIO and its populatity... without mario it would be at 80-85 not 97...

N4g_null4984d ago

Ok based on investment what did Sony invest the most in on the ps3. What componet cost the most here is a hint it beat out hd DVD. Was Sony too reliant on features and tech many people don't currently care about?

Before you say nintendo doesn't take risk play paper Mario a 2d rpg on the wii then play smg which is all 3d. Then give new super Mario bros wii a try. Sony just made lbp and told every one else to make what they wanted lol. Great for arm chair game designers but really there are way better tools for free.

The biggest risk of all was motion control and it worked also. In a market dominated by fps sales. Sony has some soul searching to do. Gt5 should sell but what if it doesn't really sell systems?

ExplosionSauce4984d ago

A couple of Mario games are the only platformers I have played on Wii so far. I don't know where you come from saying Nintendo relies heavily on platformers. Where are your examples? You're simply assuming.

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bustamove4985d ago (Edited 4985d ago )

That's not taking a jab. Sony has a good point. Which games sell more than any other game on the 360? Halo and Gears of War.

Lol @ Lord_Doggington. Nintendo has a variety of games as well as Sony. That logic wouldn't apply here.

Arnon4984d ago

You realize the biggest selling title on the PS3 is Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, right?

bustamove4984d ago

Wow, interesting logic there. I just named two shooters on the 360 and you mention Call of Duty. Call of Duty sells more on the 360 genius.

Arnon4983d ago

Yeah that has absolutely nothing to do with my comment.

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Sarcasm4985d ago

Honestly if it works for Microsoft, as a business decision I don't see why anyone wouldn't want to do the same. Halo Reach's sales is a big indication.

gamingdroid4985d ago

I bet Sony wish they had the shooter market!

FACTUAL evidence4985d ago

I love my 360, Netflix stream like waterfalls. I don't really buy games on it anymore because it really hasn't been any, besides, their best games are shooters. Example, look at halo.

niceguywii604985d ago (Edited 4985d ago )

Sony's top selling games are multi platform shooters lol
MSFT hinted at the Exclusive from Crytek so expect that game to be huge. The Irony of what Sony said just after Halo's success and just before Kinect launches is comical

wicko4985d ago

Oh NO! I better go return my PS3 then! /s

Ult iMate4985d ago

The best selling exclusive games on PS3 are MGS4 and GT5P. GeoW and Halo for X360. So as you can see, PS3 gamers prefers the variety of genres after all.

RayRay364985d ago

Ummmmm, Crytek isnt a first party studio. So Ill give it a year after its realease before it hits the PS3.

Justin_bristoe4984d ago

um i wouldnt call metal gear a shooter and thats one of ps best sellers.

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Brklynty14985d ago

Because development cost will rise even higher and i highly doubt devs are gonna fall for the check in face anymore. And they really need to invest i new IPs cuz their top games are in question now, Bungie left Halo behind, this may possibly be the last gears of war exclusive since the contract is up, they got fable but well hey, and then they got forza....yea forza. Thats why losing all "their former" titles hasnt really effected them, when you want something done, do it yourself and thats what exactly Sony and Nintendo are doing. Micrsoft relying on shooters helps them but cmon you guys rely wan Xbox to be "the place for shooters"? Basically with MS if a new IP doesnt do millions ont top of millions, they put it in the back of the fridge, while sony would put it in the microwave to warm it up again like they did with uncharted. but hey americans love shooting things so...i guess it works out for them.

BillOreilly4985d ago

thats one thing i hate about ms if a game doesnt do millions it doesnt get a sequal they dont understand building a franchise takes time i really want too human sequals lost odessey blue dragon and kameo sequals but they failed to be blockbusters such a shame

Schobeleth4985d ago

How he worded it, because it's not exactly a stab at Microsoft when it's the blatant truth. It's one of those things that everyone (including employees within the company) knows, but usually goes unsaid, like Nintendo's long running franchises that they continually rehash, it's more evident in this generation because of the massive amount of shovelware on the Wii as compared to their first party games (and what little third party exclusives there are).

It's a well known fact if you're a die-hard shooter fan and want to knuckle down with rabid, prepubescent, foul mouthed shooter fans you should get a 360 and pay for Xbox Live. Sure, there's a big shooter fanbase on the PS3 as well but it's a much different environment/experience. I've generally only had terrible experiences on XBL, while generally having good ones on the PSN, and I'm an good to above average shooter player/fan. I don't devote myself to shooters as I play a wide range of genres but I certainly enjoy them and I just can't stand the majority of the people who give XBL a bad name.

N4g_null4984d ago

Fps where mostly an adult thing much like sports only games. Please tell me how a grown man making 40-70k feels about god of war or the convoluted story of mgs. Adults males can afford to play fps and sports.

Maybe we have too many gamers who have just plan skipped playing any game type from the past. This blame lies on Sony also since they pushed out pr that limited their own games to only cool games that barely sell like industry leading games.

If only opinions could be echoed then the sales numbers would match the hype and welcomed variety. The truth is they a variety of nich titles just like the wii. We all know most game types are dieing out thanks to bickering pr and game media.

ExplosionSauce4984d ago

"Adult males can afford to play fps and sports"
Afford? All games cost the same.

MGS' story is complex. Maybe not someone as young and immature as you, but a capable adult can follow.
Shooters and sports = adult?... haha

pixelsword4985d ago (Edited 4985d ago )

Microsoft may be reliant on shooters, but no other genre garners as much attention as when new shooters come out.

Which three games got the most media attention (or commercials aired on TV) for each platform?

Alan wake, Fable 2, or Halo: Reach?

Heavy Rain, Demon's Souls, or Killzone 2?

Paper Mario, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, or Metroid the other M?

See?

Before it released, Too Human was just as long, if not an even longer wait than Duke Nukem: Forever, but a lot more people were transfixed on the Duke, even those who never played a single game of DN.

I know that I'm talking about the western media, but even in Japan ( if I'm not mistaken) you'll see helghast and Spartans walking around in game stores (the Halo type, not the Kratos type; well, also the Kratos type, but that's another post... ;D ).

wages of sin4985d ago

Sony talks shit. Promises the world yet doesn't deliver. Nintendo says hello as Sony pimps Marcus and Butler. Good luck with that.

DigitalRaptor4985d ago (Edited 4985d ago )

How has Sony not delivered? I'd like to know.

And please don't go on talking about cross-game chat and PSN.

Games console are for games and Sony has slammed us with truly awesome games since 2008, and it's only gotten better and better, year after year.

ChronoJoe4985d ago

How do you have 9 bubbles. I guarantee you at least 10 360 fans would have -bubbled you for that, and most of the PS fans that 'agreed' wouldn't have bothered to bubble up, yet your bubbles have increased since yesterday...

Anyway. Of course, you're right. 360 does even have great killer games outside of Racing games, but their is a reason that people are predicting GT5s sales against the FPS like Reach and MW2, rather than the title of Microsofts own (pretty compotent) racing series - Forza.

mac_sparrow4985d ago

Excellent post Alpha. Neatly summarises the situation and my own feelings.

ALFAxD_CENTAURO4985d ago (Edited 4985d ago )

It only does Shooters and Halo?

knightdarkbox4985d ago

funny cause the best selling game in ps3 is moder warfare 2 ( 10 million of copies )... and heres the exclusives of ps3 best selling:

killzone 2 *halo killer*

uc2= bad sales for flag ship title.

In other words, SINGLE (ONE) PS3 exclusive "system sellers" don't really sell systems...

Games like MGS4, Demons Souls,Heavy Rain, God Of War 3,Uncharted 1+2, Killzone2, LittleBigPlanet don't sell the console,
That's why for the years the PS3 has outsold for 360 its main rival worldwide sales.

mostwanted6204984d ago

MGS4 sold nearly 5.5 millions copies what are u smoking.. MW2 is around the same numbers... this is what the article intends pretty much where would microsoft be without Halo and Gears... take 2 games away from sony and they still would have better games.. Hate fanboys... MS has a good system and Sony too.. very simple its always bout exclusives thats all..

Ginn4984d ago

Didn't PS3 sales jump 300% when MGS4 was released? I'm pretty sure other people can vouch for me.

Justin_bristoe4984d ago

uncharted as at about 4 and a half milli and believe it or not it wasnt a flagship title until naughty dog drop that second bomb on us.also while your playing your sales,i'll be playing more games than i can afford!...have fun with gears halo and a massive library of shovelware..via viva pinata

MrAwesome4985d ago

What Sony ment so say is that their exclusives have more variety than xbox's exclusives.
Xbox non shooters:
Fable
Banjo-Kazooie
Forza
Codename: Kingdoms

PS3 non shooters
LBP
Infamous
Demon's Souls
GT5
Modnation Racers
The Last Guardian
God of War
FF13Versus
3D Dot Game Heroes

EVO-OM3GA4985d ago

Let me help you with that list

Too human
Mass effect
Blue dragon
PGR
Lost odyssey
Last reminant
Viva piñata

BYE4985d ago (Edited 4984d ago )

Let me add:

Heavenly Sword
Valkyria Chronicles
Yakuza 3, 4 and Yakuza Zombie game
Heavy Rain
Siren Blood Curse
Wipeout HD / Fury
Lair

The Lazy One4984d ago

why does the PS3 list include non-released titles and PSN titles and the xbox list only includes 1 unreleased.

PGR?
Blue Dragon?
Infinite Undiscovery?
Lost Odyssey?
Halo Wars?
viva pinata?
Kameo?
Too Human (I'd consider it more like god of war than a shooter)?
Mech Warrior?

none of those are XBLA games either. If you include XBLA or PSN games then you're definitely talking out of your A$$

BYE4984d ago

@The Lazy One

If you're refering to Siren and Wipeout, those are retail disc titles here in Europe and as far as I know in Asia too.

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XactGamer4985d ago

Says the company that has Uncharted 1&2, Killzone 2&3, Warhawk, Haze, R&C 1-95, Resistance 1&2, MAG, and MGO.

DigitalRaptor4985d ago (Edited 4985d ago )

But the fact is Microsoft is reliant on shooters, whilst Sony relies on their diverse range of exclusive games within many genres.

In fact I would go as far as saying, 360 is reliant on Halo.

Without Halo, the 360 would be nothing.

BYE4985d ago

That's a massive library of shooters for a console that doesn't rely on them, isn't it?

It's even more than the console that does rely on them.

The Lazy One4984d ago

"But the fact is Microsoft is reliant on shooters, whilst Sony relies on their diverse range of exclusive games within many genres."

Would you buy a PS3 if you couldn't play any of the above games?

Both consoles are reliant on shooters because shooters are the in right now. You take away the shooters from either and they'd both sell like tirds.

N4g_null4984d ago

"But the fact is Microsoft is reliant on shooters, whilst Sony relies on their diverse range of exclusive games within many genres.

In fact I would go as far as saying, 360 is reliant on Halo.

Without Halo, the 360 would be nothing."

What is funny about this comment is Sony has no halo killer and online shooters are what's in.

Sure they have other games but it seems Sony dug this hole for shooters last gen by promoting only 3d shooters of some kind. While not really growing their 1st party fanbase until now.

Gow and gran t are the only Sony made exclusive any one cared about back in last gen.

Sony wanted to change the gaming fanbase but some one did it better. They better hurry up and find what works because bashing others don't sell games just ask sega and it's fans.

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jetlian4985d ago

reason MS doesn't go into other geners is simple they don't make as much money period. Also shooters are the best way to promote live!! No one in the game industry is really even trying to capture online like FPS/TPS. Maybe capcom with SF4 but its not even close

tinybigman4985d ago (Edited 4985d ago )

those here saying Sony shouldnt throw stones have no right to talk because you stand here defending M$ for taking jabs at Sony. so dont be hypocrites saying Sony is wrong when M$ was/is worst at it.

as for the shooter thing i like them but not enough to make them take over my game playing. i'll take variety over one genre.

EVILDEAD3604984d ago

Shooters are the #1 selling genre this gen..

The #1 selling game on the PS3 is a Shooter

4 of the top 10 selling games on the PS3 are shooters

It's no secret that the amazing success of Halo has been crucual to the 360's success

But, for people to pretend the 360 ONLY has shooters is silly..

The fact is the 360's biggest draw is Xbox Live and franchises like Halo and Gears

The fact is the PS3s biggest draw is Blu Ray capability and current remakes of its historic franchises from the PS2 era

Two different routes to success..but to pretend the 360 osent vcater to the almost every other genre is ignorance..

Halo..biggest FPS this gen
Gears..biggest third person shooter this gen
Fable 2..biggest RPG this gen
Forza 3..number # racing sim this gen until the grandaddy GT5 arrives in November

The 360 has been the home to games like Crackdown, Splinter Cell, Mass Effect, Alan Wake, Lost Oddysey etc..

The rest of the genres are covered successfully with multi-plats..

All 3 consoles have found different paths to success..in the end it's the gamers that have voted with their wallet..and in the end that's all that matters

Evil

Lyr1c4984d ago

Oh please. The PS3's biggest draw comes from it's remakes? I'm pretty sure LBP, GT, MGS and Uncharted are just as big (if not bigger) than Halo and/or Gears.

Halo the biggest FPS this gen?
No sir, that belongs to COD.

Gears the biggest TPS this gen?
No sir, that belongs to Uncharted 2.

Fable 2 the biggest RPG this gen?
LOL Nope, that belongs to Demon's Souls.

Forza 3 holds the crown for another 2 month, so until then, congrats on that one.

Pssssst.....Your fanboy is showing ;)

simplyRealistic184984d ago (Edited 4984d ago )

You guys are so fucking Retarded, im pretty sure that sony was talking about M$ first party line up, so why are you idiots adding multi-plats into the convo when sony them selves are comparing first-parties

Neither can control the 3rd party games that sell on their console so that will not be relying on them

And by the way, you deserve a slap for saying fable 2 is the biggest RPG this gen, that game was a disappointment and i can actually say that because i played it and LionHead knows it was a disappointment

they biggest rpg this gen were Fallout, Mass effect and Final Fantasy and those were all Multi-plats

moneygun24984d ago

you dont want evil to give you anymore of those indisputable facts do ya. Like ps3 biggest draw is that it is a blu ray player....really. And just 4 years later, and 1 remastered game its other primary purpose is "obviously" remakes.

Evil that logic is just....ironclad. Care to give us all anymore eyeopening revelations.

Game to game not to flame.

MG2

N4g_null4984d ago

Simplyrealist the problem is people judge what the want by what's avaiable not what is exclusive only pr sheep or ps3 fanboy care about the exclusive sequels coming out.

Then it should dawn on you the xbox has the best 3rd party support this gen which use to be a Sony only thing. You have to ask your self if being a blu ray player is hurt game sales also.

If you look around even ps3 gamers can not afford a new console it seems when gamers always welcomed new hardware. Suddenly the cash rich hardcore gamers are the main used game buyers and the ones worried about price. Maybe that is only an adult gamer issue.

jetlian4984d ago

halo as far as mw2 is concerned is bigger than cod on 360.

gears sold nearly twice as much as uc

fable sold twice as much as demon souls.

forza will be second to GT5 though

And by remakes I think he means GT,GOW,MGS are all from previous gens. they are also sonys biggest sellers

EVILDEAD3604984d ago (Edited 4984d ago )

LMAO @ the emotional responses..classic

One more time...this should be fun..since I rushed through through the last post and left the zillion typos..

So let me clarify once more..

Shooters rule this gen on both consoles..period..

Again..4 of the top 10 selling PS3 games of all time (including #1) are first person shooters..

The Halo history speaks for itself..the whole gaming globe knows what that franchise has meant to the success of the Xbox brand..

AGAIN..the biggest DRAW for the Xbox has been Xbox live and franchises like Halo and Gears of War..

Lyr1c, SimplyRealitic, and anybody else can break their keyboards and shout out obbscenities all day..won't change a thing

When talking about EXCLUSIVES all consoles took a different route to success..

In Microsft's case..

Halo is easily the biggest 'exlusive' Shooter this gen..Halo 3 at 11 Million alone sold more than Call of Duty: MW2 on the PS3 (the #1 selling game on the PS3) and when the smoke clears from Reach those numbers may be topped

Both Gears of War 1 and 2 sold 6 million and 5 Million respectively..making it the top selling TPS frachise this gen..with Gears 3 having a really great shot of topping those numbers

@ Lyr1c..Uncharted is an amazing franchise for Sony..but neither of them sold over 4 Million..it is what it is..'sir'

Fable 2 pushed 3.7 million making it the number one selling 'exclusive' RPG this gen

So @ Lyr1c again..I'm a huge King's Field fan from back in the day and bought Demon's souls DAY ONE..but to pretend that the game that sold 750,000 woldwide is bigger than any game in the Fable series is silly..

@ Simply..

I could care less if you were disappointed..I played it 3 times and loved it..I'm simply talking about the game at this time being the biggest exclusive RPG this gen..so 'slap' yourself

LMFAO @ Moneygun still following me after pretending to go to midinght launches of games he previously admitting to never owning..how's that for an 'eyeopening' revalation..

Again..the biggest 'DRAW' for the PS3 has been the Blu Ray and the the 'continuance' of the franchises we all loved back in the PS2 days..no one is bashing the PS3..it is what it is..'remakes' is obviously the wrong word I used in haste..no one is claiming 'GOW HD' sells systems..it's the chance to play newest editions of games like Metal Gear Solid 4, God of War 3, and Gran Turismo 5 is where the system has shined the brightest..

Evil

moneygun24983d ago

somebody needs to make sure you live up to your absurd claims. You must get tired from all the LMAO and LOLs and ROFL you have to type to try and make a point. I can just see it, you sitting at the computer, shaking, waiting for someone to react to a post of yours. All this from the guy with the imaginary 360 and phantom ps3 sure evil game on. Hes always playing on with his 100+ games, and his day one Demon Souls. Your so cool man how do i be more like you..oh wait i know.

ROFL,LOL,BBQ,LMAO,LMFAO, (insert childish embarrassing attempted snide remark here)

Game to game not to flame.

MG2

EVILDEAD3604982d ago

'somebody needs to make sure you live up to your absurd claims'

So let me get this straight while keeping a straight face..

This is the guy who a week ago told the world he never bought Halo 3 because he 'didn't own a 360 at the time'..but then after forgetting he admitted it..pretended he attended the Halo 3 minight launch..

Did you stand online to play Halo 3 with your 'Imaginary' Xbox 360 at the time..or was it the 'Phantom' one?

See this is what we call a fake gamer....this is the kind of guy who has 50 comments in over a year and a half because he knows zero about gaming..so he pretends..and emulates others..

Yup I own All the consoles..I don't have to lie (like you) just to get my point across..I don't have to stalk other members of N4G.com like you do and emulate their posts in hopes that people believe your authentic...

LMAO @ your posts before stalking me and the ones immediately after..

Now you write 'be a gamer..' and leave your initial hoping that you can be just like me..awwwwwwwww

Moral of the story..stop trying to bash others and karma won't keep smacking you in the face..

Shout out to the real gamers on N4G.com..

Evil

moneygun24982d ago

just to full of contradiction I dont know where to start. I dont know if you remember this but you were new once too (gasp) and guess what there are people on here that have more games, nicer set ups, and better equipment than you. (myself most likely included)

Emulate others? Ok that deserves a lol.

Guess what evil, your not original, if you did invent putting the initial at the bottom of post on the internet i owe you an apology. But since your self centered enough that you think you may just have. Enjoy.

Your not that knowledgeable compared to most of the people on here and the infinitely more educated and well versed things they have to talk about, and your certainly not a real gamer. No, liking halo alot does not qualify you as "hardcore" in my opinion. But you must be a real gamer cause you talk on and on about your games but you dont have a ps3 tag, an xbox tag, you dont have shit.

If you cant prove something, stop running your mouth.

When did I say I was at Halo 3 mind-night launch specifically, cant find it can ya. That kinda makes your last ohhhhh i dont know... 9 post pretty devoid of any sort of thought process.

I said i have been to em all, forgive me if i only ment the games that had larger midnight openings than any of the halo launches, i figured since we were talking about size and spectacle people might want to talk about the games that brought the most of that. COD MOD 2, GTA IV, ect.

Maybe check your facts first.

And for god sake learn or to use proper punctuation, you dont need to use a god damn ellipsis every other word to make it seem like you have a more intuitive grasp on the subject materiel, and for our non articulate friends (evil) that the two or three ... you insist on putting everywhere for no reason. Etone=joke.

Seriously, I counted at least 15 points of suspension between your last two post. Here is a proper use, read...a...book.

Evil just stop trying to act like your in on something you not, or at least prove us all otherwise.

I may be new, but what I lack with post, i make up for with facts. As wells as tangible info, none of this because i said so shit.

Game to game not to flame.

MG2 <==EVILDEAD360 INVENTED THE TAG

EVILDEAD3604981d ago (Edited 4981d ago )

'If you cant prove something, stop running your mouth.
When did I say I was at Halo 3 mind-night launch specifically, cant find it can ya. That kinda makes your last ohhhhh i dont know... 9 post pretty devoid of any sort of thought process'

Yawn..this is too easy..

Fact..first you admitted that you never owned Halo 3

'I didn't buy Halo 3 (just did not have the 360 at the time) but I did snag odst'
http://n4g.com/news/603736/...

But later after following me around N4G..you jump into one of my replies again and try to prove that Call of Duty's Midnight launch had bigger crowds than Halo 3 and Reach

You said:

'Been to em all son. And cod mod 2 dwarfed your halo 3,halo reach,gta IV, any others you "may" have been to.'

http://n4g.com/news/605055/...

Are you seriously trying to spin into something else now that you got called out?

'Been to em all'..means you ACTUALLY been to em all..Halo 3 is what we were talking about..you made the statement PRETENDING it was A FIRST hand ACCOUNT.

How can you compare the 'crowd turn out' of the Halo 3 launch to other games when you didn't even own a 360...GTFOH

Why say you've 'been to em all'..when you could have just said..hey look at this link that I googled and Wiki'd that said COD:MW had the 'biggest entertainment launch in history'..

Completely different thing..I said ask the retailers..People can come out all day Tuesday for games that break sales records.but that has nothing to do with the crowd turn out at midinght launches

Again..that's what fake gamers on the web have to do just to prove their points.

LMFAO @ you pretending I care who has a better system setup or has more games than me. I can only talk about my collection..period..

So if you think you pretending I don't own a 360, a PS3, or any system because your butthurt that NEVER give online lames like you my personal info..then please keep FAILING.

See I didn't invent the initial thing..I'm not the first or last..I just said for ANYONE to look at your posts before you stalked me and got called out and every comment after and see the difference..

So please feel free to continue to attack others on this site while pretending to 'Game to game, not to flame'

And look up 'The KingSlayer'on N4G who invented the moniker..'Be a Gamer, not a hater'..sounds so familiar
http://n4g.com/news/521327/...

Evil

moneygun24981d ago

I think you need to get some sun. I can honestly say I do not have the strength to deal with your ineptitude. I have not had any other issues with anyone else. So let's look at the series of events you say halo has the biggest turn out for midnight releases and I point out that the stats say otherwise. You counter by telling me to ask the "retailers". I than try and offer a pardon and a game of reach and you shit all over it. Yeah.... that's what a real gamer does.

You than assume (anyone ever tell you what assume means) I don't own a 360, I'm a multiple account user, and plagerising a tagline of some guy I have never heard of. Does this sound about right.

Look asshat you want to post great just don't throw a fit when someone points out some bull shit flags your flying.

As for your very clever homosexual innuendo about me wanting you gtag ROFLMFA, seriously? It was an offer out of common curtesy but like I said you felt the need to act childish and immature over something so insignificant, the offer still stands though.

You can find my gamertag on my profile, because quite frankly Im into gaming for all sorts of reasons, and one is to meet new interesting people if you don't like someone there is the almighty block button.

Have fun gaming evil, but as for this pointless little feud, I'm bored and you no longer amuse me.

Always ready to game however.

Game to game not to flame.

MG2

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Moonboots4984d ago (Edited 4984d ago )

Why is it you only list FPS when you say "shooters" on the PS3? Then list both TPS and FPS on the 360 and call them "shooters". If you are going to call Gears a shooter you better call Uncharted and Infamous shooters as well. They may have some platforming elements but the main objective is shoot the bad guy.

Then I would say BOTH look to be reliant on shooters.

360 - Mass Effect, Alan Wake
PS3 - Heavy Rain, God of War

The PS3 has GT5 this year but 360 owners have enjoyed both the PGR and Forza racing series this gen. And the 360 crowd has another great RPG in Fable 3 coming this holiday.

JRPG is also well represented on the console. It has MORE JRPG's then the PS3. What you think of them quality wise is irrelevant.

I am getting so sick of hearing this lack of diversity when I've played FPS, TPS, Action Adventure, RPG, JRPG, RTS, Racing, Sports all on the Xbox.

Just because they are the most popular doesn't make them the only games on the console. If you do think all the 360 has is shooters then you do not own the system or you are purposely deceiving people.

N4g_null4984d ago

This only high lights that Sony has no exclusives to rely on yet. Alpha points out 5 shooters that where suppose to unseat those two or three shooters yet none where able to sell better than xbox games.

In contrast the wii has three motion games that sold over 15 million one classic platformer and a kart racing game along with fitness games that preform like or better than xbox exclusives. Yet even ps3 exclusive struggle to sell 5 million a lot of times. This is all reguardless of hype and game quality it seems.

The xbox has successfully found a market along with the wii. Sony says it has diversity yet if your games are not selling then you may be missing something. Gamers respond to xbox titles by buying them and the same goes for wii top sellers. Why are Sony exclusives not selling? It can't be price can it? Sony is out selling the xbox world wide right? Right well what are these people buying?

Better yet what does Sony rely on? Why is it not working after almost 4 years.

vhero4984d ago

Sony says something us fans of gaming been saying for years.. Took em a while to realise though.

mcstorm4984d ago

It is true but what ms are starting to show now with kinect extra is they are going to widen the 360 market and push with all sorts of different gores of games. I think we will see a big change from ms next year to be the console that is in between the ps3 and the wii. But I also expect big things from Sony and innuendo next year this gen is halfway through and is getting better n better each year.

Solid_Snakeps34984d ago (Edited 4984d ago )

as i said before: americans love s***...

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Dance4985d ago (Edited 4985d ago )

shooters like halo and call of duty sell well into millions so might explain why microsoft are looking into another first person shooter

tiamat54985d ago

Well I think we all know that. Microsoft system weren't exactly known for their variety of games.They don't even really have any platformers.

Capdastaro4985d ago

If they sell like hot cakes then obviously they are going to pump them out, even half of the top selling games on the PS3 are shooters for feck sake.

It's like opening up a hairdressers and only doing Jerry Curls...

You will be out of business in a month.

pixelsword4985d ago

Good point, but you undermined yourself after the first sentence.

albel_nox4985d ago

Sony continues to puff hot air. Sometimes these game companies are as bad as their fanboys.

bustamove4985d ago

Microsoft was puffing out the most hot air this generation. How is Sony puffing out hot air? They have a good point. Don't bag on them because they're right.

Stealth20k4985d ago

I agree all microsoft has upcoming are shotoers and kinect.

Its garbage.

BillOreilly4985d ago

the fact they have kinect means they are attempting to change that image though

SiteNblog Defender4984d ago

@bustamove:

"You can look at the software that they sell. All their licensed kid stuff. So, what we're doing with the PlayStation Portable is really establishing a new marketplace, and establishing, frankly, a new beachhead."
- Peter Dille, Sony US Senior Vice President of Marketing, on comparing PSP to DS

"It’s probably too cheap…"
– Ken Kutaragi, Regarding the $499 to $599 price point

"(the PS3) is not a game machine…"
- Ken Kutaragi, Regarding the machine’s beefy hardware architecture

"…for consumers to think to themselves ‘I will work more hours to buy one’. We want people to feel that they want it, irrespective of anything else."
– Ken Kutaragi, explaining their marketing goals for the PS3

"If you can find a PS3 anywhere in North America that's been on shelves for more than five minutes, I'll give you 1200 bucks for it."
- Jack Tretton, Sony Computer Entertainment America president and CEO

"The first five million are going to buy it (PS3), whatever it is, even [if] it didn't have games."
- David Reeves, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe CEO

"Microsoft does not concern us. Microsoft is not a technology company."
- Nobuyuki Idei, Sony chief corporate adviser in an interview with BBC NEWS

"A bit pricey."
- Michael Ephraim, Managing Director of Sony Computer Entertainment Australia, speaking about Nintendo Wii in an interview with the age.com.au

"Sorry you didn't have the opportunity to buy a PS3 this year, but I'm sure it beats lining up in a queue for hours on end only to be told the store has sold out."
- Michael Ephraim, Managing Director of Sony Australia in an interview with the age.com.au

"There’s this sort of misunderstanding that the Blu-ray disc player for movies is somehow burdening the console with unnecessary cost. That is completely not true... Once we had that storage capacity on Blu-ray Disc, adding the movie playback functionality was extremely cost-effective, [the cost] is actually non-existent."
- Phil Harrison, regarding the wholesale cost of the system’s Blu-ray player

"Nobody will ever use 100% of PS3's capability"
- Phil Harrison, president of Sony Computer Entertainment's Worldwide Studios speaking with MTV news.

"The PlayStation 3 is a computer. We do not need the PC."
- Phil Harrison, president of Sony Worldwide Studios, in an interview with GameSpot

"I have no concerns about the competition."
- Phil Harrison, president of Sony Worldwide Studios speaking at the Game Developer Conference

"I don’t think we’re arrogant."
– Phil Harrison, regarding consumer perception of Sony

"We're certainly not interested in Gimmicks."
- Kaz Hirai0 E32k6, right before showing off Eye of Judgement.

"Nintendo knows its target audience, because it has really narrowed that down; and it’s pretty much defined by a boy or girl’s ability to admire Pokemon."
- Phil Harrison, president of Sony Computer Entertainment's Worldwide Studios

"Consider the US with its massive land and cheap people. Then you look at the UK - a little island where rent and rates are at an absolute premium, and the cost of people is a lot more."
- Sony's take on the consumers, as told by UK Managing Director Ray Maguire to website gamesindustry.biz

http://next-generationsyste...

Moonboots4984d ago

"I agree all microsoft has upcoming are shotoers and kinect.

Its garbage. "

Fable 3 says HI. Stop lying and deceiving people about the 360.

bustamove4984d ago

I love how you bring up Sony's mistakes and yet you neglect most of Microsoft's jabs at Sony. Don't make me bring up those articles where Microsoft couldn't even keep Sony from their lips.

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UltimateIdiot9114985d ago

So when you point out the obvious, it's suddenly hot air and as bad as fanboy. Oh boy, companies better start lying about competitors on the double, the truth is bad. /s

Get real, it's not a jab and not a bad thing. All they are saying is "hey, 360 is full of shooters while we have diversity." Pick. We all know what MS's strategy is and what's Sony's strategy is. Every company always do a SWOT analysis of themselves and competitors, this is just a bit of it. Hey, look, you just got a little business 101 here.

Seijoru4985d ago

At least Sony actually has games.

Sweeper_4984d ago

But still ended up in last place(In games and Sales).
Posting ridiculous statements by Sony executives is a very sensitive subject for Sony fanboys.
Its bad when Greenberg talks shit but when Sony do it they are crowned as heroes
You guys are losers

BillOreilly4984d ago

acually the 360 has more games and more exclusives than the ps3. just sayin

EVILDEAD3604984d ago (Edited 4984d ago )

Bookmarked just for all those quotes in the article 'sitebNlog' linked...

People from both console console companies throw jabs..

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic188115h ago(Edited 15h ago)

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus236h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

SonyStyled12h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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jwillj2k415h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot14h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

RNTody14h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead4h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

anast14h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn197913h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead2d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow2d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1821d 15h ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie1d 5h ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere20h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin1d 2h ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere20h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow6h ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere20h ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow6h ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX1d 18h ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney1h ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno1d 17h ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Sheppard7t31d 15h ago

How did Sony kill the series?

Inverno1d 15h ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii1d 2h ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno1d ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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