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Great Expectations: PlayStation Move and Microsoft’s Kinect [Game Rant]

Anthony Taormina of Game Rant writes: "Kinect could have stepped forward as the motion controller of choice for the hardcore gamer, for the gamer who feels that what the Wii has to offer is too casual, and is too focused on group play. But that isn’t happening. At least, not yet. Neither Kinect, nor its spiritual brother in motion, PlayStation Move, should be attempting to repeat the Wii formula. They should instead be developing their own niche in order to appeal to those gamers who feel left in the cold by motion based gaming."

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btk4999d ago

Sounds like a person who was really psyched up for Kinect - realized that it is going down and now wants to take Move down with it.

The poor person actually believed the Milo demo. Actually believed that Kinect would be suitable for hardcore games. Wow.

bluexy4999d ago

Is it so bad to be optimistic?

FunAndGun4999d ago

maybe there is a fine line between being optimistic and just being naive?

Boody-Bandit4999d ago (Edited 4999d ago )

don't drag down Move just because Kinect isn't anything like MS protrayed it to be capable of at E3 09. I am not a big motion fan but if I was to go that route there really is only one viable option since I am a core and not a casual gamer.

Anyone that thought Milo was really possible must have been born from an incestual gene pool.

IRetrouk4999d ago

they are both here to stay, im getting the move day 1, as soon as i see a proper game for kinect i will also pick that up, then again if the kids want 1 for christmas then i will get it for them.

ApocalypseShadow4999d ago

in NO WAY would an add-on that takes away the buttons would have been the best option for the core gamer.NO WAY.you mean taking away the controller,mouse and keyboard would be great for the core?get real.

ps move on the other hand,out does the wiimote and wiimotion plus in every way.and shows in ACTUAL DEMOS,that it can do what kinect cannot do.just look at Anton's WORKING DEMOS and look at kinect's LACK of DEMOS.

core gamers like precision.the wiimote and kinect aren't precise.that's where they lose the core gamer.you can still have fun,but not a very deep experience.

and the writer obviously doesn't see sony's strategy.sony is offering the core gamer options day one.as it will work with existing games,existing downloads and will work for future games like killzone3 and socom4.not have core gamers waiting 18 months like kinect is aiming for.

not totally disrespect the current fanbase and make no games for them as kinect does.sony knows that some casual gamers will get a ps3.but they are taking care of their fanbase first.that's what got them this far without wii casual gamers.

pulling in wii casual gamers is just a side effect of great controller design and word of mouth on it's capabilities.but you take care of the fans first and that's what sony is doing.if they just wanted casual,they would have stuck with pseye only and waving your hands.sort of like that other thing releasing in november...

ArchangelMike4999d ago

Sony's strategy works for me as a core gamer much better than M$ strategy. M$ is selling out the core gamer for the casual, and have not shown anything worth shouting about from a core gamer perspective. People keep going on about its 'future potential', but fail to realise that if kinectimals and ricochete are enough to draw in the casual crowd for M$, the potential will already have bee realised, and the rest of us are stuck with shovelware and on-rail games.

seinfan4999d ago

Move is an awful alternative to a standard controller. Same goes with the other motion gimmicks.

DarkFantasy4999d ago (Edited 4999d ago )

why is it awful ? lol seems to me your just a hater.

JoelR4998d ago

playing Socom with it I was probably 30-40% faster in targeting and killing other players who used the sixaxis.... I would tend to think that it's not as bad as you think because of that.

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Joy Ride Turbo - The Beginning of the End for Xbox Kinect

Joy Ride Turbo launched 10 years ago today. The first title was Xbox Kinect exclusive, yet this sequel failed to support the device at all.

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10 of the Biggest Video Game Hardware Failures Ever

Cultured Vultures: "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal, and no matter how much developers might try, some gaming hardware just fails to hit the mark. We’ve compiled a list of 10 gaming hardware fails, and boy did some fail hard."

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Knightofelemia853d ago

I would label the Power Glove, Kinect, and that Tony Hawk skateboard more as hardware addons hardware failure would be like the Virtual Boy and one day Stadia.

Magog852d ago

Kinect was bundled with every Xbox One and inflated the price on an already underpowered and low RAM machine so for the One it wasn't an accessory as much as a white elephant.

CaptainHenry916852d ago (Edited 852d ago )

Definitely the RROD but that power glove had a lot of issues as well. The Kinect just didn't work

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CrimsonWing69852d ago

Hardware add-ons are more like RAM or a video card, basically components that enhance capabilities or performance of the computer.

If you really want to get technical the Kinect is more of a peripheral device, kind of like a keyboard or mouse to a computer.

ThatsGaming852d ago

The person in this article obviously is not up on their gaming history....

Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Coleco Gemini, Commodore 128, Commodore Amiga, Atari 5200, Atari 7800 were all massive failures and in most cases cost their companies participating in future gaming generations.

Gamer79852d ago

Sega saturn (successful in Japan) and dreamcast were not failures.
Seems like you're not up on you're gaming history

septemberindecember852d ago

@Gamer79

How in the world are the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast not seen as failures? They both sold around 8M each, which is much lower than the ~30M that the Genesis had sold before it, and even the Master System before that. They were both the worst selling consoles in their respective generation (PS1, N64 outsold Saturn, PS2, GC, and Xbox outsold Dreamcast). Both of the consoles were incredibly short lived. The Saturn was discontinued in every territory but Japan after just three years. In Japan the console was discontinued after six years. Meanwhile the Dreamcast was discontinued worldwide in 2001 after launching in most territories in 1999 and in Japan in 1998. The failure of the Saturn and Dreamcast lead to Sega pulling out of the hardware market. Which, by the way, all of this occurred when Sega was massively dropping the price of their consoles quickly to compete. Sega was hemorrhaging money at this point.

None of this indicates a successful console. Saying the Saturn was a success because it did better in Japan is like saying the Vita is a success (they both sold around the same amount of units in Japan). Even the Wii U outsold these consoles worldwide.

Magog852d ago

The picture should be the 360 RROD. When I think of gaming hardware failures that's what springs to mind. Kinect and it's bundled price tag definitely hobbled the already underpowered Xbox One though for sure so I would give it a close second place.

porkChop852d ago (Edited 852d ago )

That's not what the author means by failures. It's about hardware that failed in terms of sales (Wii U) or just failed to deliver on its promise (Kinect).

Magog852d ago (Edited 852d ago )

Given that the 360 had a year head start, much easier hardware to develop for, was cheaper, and still ended up in third place I think it qualifies especially when you factor in the frustration and huge losses incurred by RROD.

porkChop852d ago

Selling over 80 million consoles isn't a sales flop. We get it, you don't like Xbox, but that doesn't mean the 360 is suddenly a failure.

Rhythmattic851d ago

Porky....
You know how many people I know bought a 2nd or third 360 due to RROD? Even when MS had to confront the issue with replacement systems, my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in, and waiting for a replacement.,,..,..
If that's how you consider it a win... OK.. but so is having 5 , of which 3 don't function.... Its a win win....mwhahahahaha

porkChop851d ago

"my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in"

You're acting like it would take months. When I sent my 360 in I got a new one literally 5 days later. As soon as MS had tracking confirmation that you sent yours, they'd send a new one to you the same day. No one is going to spend hundreds to buy a new console instead of waiting a week. I swear you guys pull some of the dumbest shit out of nowhere and think people will actually believe it.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about.

Rhythmattic850d ago (Edited 850d ago )

Porky
"You're acting like it would take months"
Sometimes it could.. FFS.. 'Strya here...
Best turnaround I reckon was 2-3 weeks.....
Either way, My mates experiences still exist.. So Sorry, no point trying to earn Xbox Achievements when it doesn't feature in what was a situation you never dealt with,,,,
3 of my friends would disagree (overall, 10 extra Xboxes purchased)
Regardless.. MS sold a lot of 360's that was due to this reason.. That is sales. Fact

"none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about."
Headline says HELLO !
Oh and "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal," that's enough to pass this on without taking your article bias into consideration.....
As for the rest.... Ok.. But you've actually gone out of your way to give MS a Pass... Fap on.

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Aloymetal852d ago (Edited 852d ago )

Yup, and because of that big fiasco MS had to fork out 1 billion but knowing them I think they're very proud of the 360, it's the only time a MS console reached 80mil+ sales, RROD played a big part of that and a record they will never break again.

Rhythmattic851d ago (Edited 851d ago )

So true.. Even when MS accepted they where caught out in the biggest lie of any generation, The wait for a replacement was outweighed by just buying another, and having one be returned as a backup, which, btw, generally failed on first swap.
I own honestly can't believe MS tards are just supporting , or arguing why and what MS did by just dismissing it....

lonewolf10852d ago

Lol I had the Atari Jaguar, surprised its "competition" the 3DO isn't on the list too, both as "popular" as each other.

SullysCigar852d ago

Lol same. Played the crap out of Aliens Vs Predator and Tempest 2000 .... aaand that's about it really!!

lonewolf10852d ago

Sad but true that was pretty much it.

Kurt Russell852d ago

Agreed, I never actually saw a 3DO make it to retailers in the UK. At least the Atari Jaguar was sold for around 6 months.

lonewolf10852d ago

It made it to some my brother got one, fared just as well as the Jaguar so most probably hard to find in general.

darthv72852d ago

3do had way better games. Jaguar not so much. Neo Geo sold less than both and yet isnt considered a failure. Go figure.

LWOGaming852d ago

Stadia is a weird one. It hasn’t sold at all well but in terms of how it works it’s still miles ahead of Xcloud in terms of stability and performance. Xcloud is still a way behind and that needs sorting but it will be in time. Stadia for me is one of those things that will go down as a what could have been moments. With better marketing it could have been a roaring success. I still play it and it remains the best place in my opinion to play CyberPunk 2077. Only platform I have played it on without having any issues at all. The tech is great. The concept is fine. Marketing terrible. Shame really.

Magog852d ago

The sales model was awful. They should have teamed with an existing player to allow for local and cloud access to games or a gaming subscription service.

LWOGaming852d ago

It was a strange mess from such a huge company, as I said, as a system it works really well but without gamers it’s nothing. Such a waste,

LWOGaming852d ago

The Xbox One was Microsoft’s Nintendo Wii U. Undercooked, undersold and just an unholy mess. The thing is with any of these failures is to learn from them and thankfully both Nintendo and Xbox did just that to the benefit of gamers everywhere.

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