Killzone 2 - Updated impressions from Games Radar

After one pre-rendered trailer, 135 developers, 40 million dollars, and a typhoon of internet abuse, Guerrilla has finally done it - they've proven to the world that Killzone on PlayStation 3 not only exists in playable form, but looks just as good as the "target footage" shown at E3 2005. At an exclusive unveiling in Los Angeles, Games Radar were treated to a live 30-minute demo of the game in action, with director Mathijs De Jonge and producer Steven Ter Heide playing a level in real-time, with a Sixaxis, on PS3.

It's instantly clear how different Killzone 2 is from most other first-person shooters. Not in terms of concept or gameplay, but in that it's so robust and dynamic. Surfaces shatter and crumble when your bullets hit them, characters move realistically through the environment with weighty animations and the levels are densely packed with detail and spot effects like power lines wobbling in the wind. While a lot of the set-pieces in Resistance and Call of Duty 3 were amazing, it felt like more like you were a spectator rather than actually taking part. Killzone 2 changes all of this.

[krackchap]

*waits for xbots to enter and post*
1)the first killzone game was so bad
2)its not about graphics its about gameplay

[iceice123]

You'd rather have a game with good graphics than great gameplay? That's nice for you but not the majority.

[Violater]

You didn't have to wait long.
lol

And like MotherH the lead tester said, every time the budget for this game is mentioned it goes up.

[Bathyj]

Lucky for us Icewake, we dont have to choose. We can have both. What a concept.

[BIadestarX]

Well Guerrilla done it... Kudos for them. It still does not look like or play like the E3 Video that the Sony rep said was actual gameplay footable... but then again that was not their fault. Never the less the game look fantanstic and better than many people expected.
Sadly this is what every game on the PS3 should look like. But now that Sony developers reach this level of greatness in game... and we though that gears is the best that can ever be accomplish on the xbox 360... what happened? Bioshock, Mass Effect and COD4 happened... Even if you hate the xbox 360 you should take a look at Bioshock... graphis are multiple times better than Gears.... Now that's the game to beat... not gears. Once again... you were also wrong when you though that the PS3 would render the xbox 360 obsolete... it seems as if both consoles still have a lots of miles to go... and the xbox 360 is always one step ahead due to the experience developers have developing on it. Most people hoped that Kill Zone 2 would take Gears title as the best looking game on console... but it seems that Bioshock will be the one to do that.

[DJ]

“Killzone 2 looks better than every other PS3 title, and basically blows the 360 out of the water, so I’m going to sit here and pretend that the game doesn’t live up to the Concept Trailer from two years back. How will I do that? Simple! I’ll just waddle in my denial and claim that Gears of War is superior to Killzone in both graphics and gameplay; it’s the only argument I can possibly make, and not a very good one at that.”

[Bonsai1214]

while i haven't played bioshock yet, most reviewers seem to be saying that while the graphics of it are really good, gears still looks better. but its more the atmosphere that bioshock formulates that makes it so good.

but yeah, this game is shaping up to be amazing. i want to see that demo level.. gah!

[The Wood]

bioshock is no way better than gears. Stop talking quaff. I prefer the look, colours and general atmosphere in bioshock from what ive played but theres nothing technically better with the visuals on bio than gears on the 360. Ill also judge kz2 when its finished not from what we've seen already. Id also like to say well done for showing some love (although bittersweet) for this ps3 game. I know it can be hard for (u know whats)

[MikeGdaGod]

why do yall even try to explain yourselves to someone like bladestar?

he will say whatever to downplay the ps3 and its games. f*ck em. no need to argue or explain things. let these lames say whatever they want about the games. thats one of the reasons i stopped posting news and try to just read news without the comments. people will say whatever just to get a reaction. let em talk that sh!t, i betcha they'll be getting a ps3 sooner or later, no doubt.

f*ck em, thats my new model of thinking when dealin with fanboys.

[reaferfore20]

Gears of War, Bioshock, Mass Effect and COD4.
Three of these games use the same exact engine. Unreal 3 hasn't even come out yet and it should be the best looking one out of them all... I mean it's not like it's called the UNREAL engine or anything.

[NoiseBringer]

Yep that is a good news about PS3 hardwer potential, but there is a nother side of a medal.. look how much it cost and how many developers work on that...
sony better make a better tools because small game developers cant do games like Guerilla from finance point of view...
I love PS its only console that i probably will buy but if 40milion and 135 developers are needed to game be good, you are in serius trouble.... :-/

EDIT: All i wanted is to point out LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO MADDEN 08, its turn out bad compare to the 360 because EA(noobs) didnt want to spend a little extra money to game run and look better...

[Captain Tuttle]

Good post. The game looks great but $40 million (so far) great? Unless Sony is going to sell the game engine it's not a good sign.

[Captain Tuttle]

About building Guerilla but are they working on any other games? 140 people seems like alot to be developing 1 single game. That's why I wonder if they're going to market the game engine as well. Seems like it would be a smart move.

[pilotpistolpete]

I'm positive that that 40 mil isn't just for this game alone. Hands down, the lighting is the most impressive and innovative things. No doubt Guerrila will share this technology to future game. The money is used to create the game and create new and exciting tools for the ps3.

[LSDARBY]

Stranglehold has cost Midway 30million, and im sure Killzone will sell more than Stranglehold and the technology they hjave created will no doubt be used in other Sony 1st party games.

[Douche]

I originally heard that the budget was $25 million. There was an article about it. How would Stranglehold be the most expensive produced video game if it were only $30 million?

Besides, as Hatchet said, the money contributed to more than just a game. It's well known that GG made a few breakthroughs in technology while developing this game. Mainly for physics and dynamic lighting. Much time has been spent on individual features found in the game. Like the physics-based blood, the many layers of sound and effects, the lighting as said previously, and the harsh atmosphere which was built from the ground to the sky.

This is something that many developers should dedicate their time to. I think Killzone 2 is an icebreaker for the PS3's pontential. And sharing the technology GG has created within the 1st parties and loyal 2nd parties (Insomniac for example) will definately be done to some extent. That along with the Playstation Edge will be good tools for development. Can't wait to see more of this game.

[DeadlyFire]

135 developers are not for any one part of the game really. The game is going to be released in how many countries? I think its was around 20-30. Alot of translating and redoing parts of story to translate properly. Take that into consideration. The main game is likely to have the most developers working on it with other versions being translated and retold with different vioces.

[Mu5afir]

Final Fantasy 7 had a budget of 30 million with over 100 staff working on it. Metal Gear solid games have always had a large amount of people working on it, and the coast to make the game was around 20 million or so, even for the older systems.

[Foliage]

Captain Tuttle:

Well that is ten million dollars less than the episodic content for the 360 version of GTA. Desperate times call for lots of Gates' money.

Besides most production costs are heading in that direction, so it is expected that a game that has surpassed any console graphics displayed by any game revealed currently for any console, would cost a pretty penny.

[Rythrine]

"That said, it’s the second time a Killzone 2 trailer has ruined E3 - this time for making almost every other game look so terrifyingly ordinary."

Even at its current build, this game never ceases to amaze me.

[pp]

what is the game running on ps2

[boodybandit]

Well they tried to make it on 360 hardware but the dev kits kept RRODing on them. See how easy it is? Seriously, why troll?

[fenderputty]

is clearly of a 3rd grade intelligence level. Not only in content but, grammar and sentence structure as well.

[WilliamRLBaker]

The game looks good, Contrary to what other people believe when it comes to this game and me and what i've said in the past, But they ignore the context, I only get down on the games context based upon what people say about it and other games, Like how its the best game since sliced bread, or how all other fps suck compared...ect and how this game makes ps3 the best most powerful system.

On its own with out biased contextual differences Killzone 2 will probly be great, It has alot againest it, killzone 1's bad reviews, and graphics, and stigmata as a halo killer, and then sonys lie about the first showing being real time.

But on its own without contextual bias, if they can pull it all together the game will be a great game.

Edit:opps wrong comment, I ment 1 person disagrees that without contextual bias then killzone2 will be good.

[Douche]

Has the world stopped spinning? Has WilliamRLBaker thinly unveiled something positive about Killzone 2? Must be a change in heart. Jk, but you're right. Anyone with bias over the history of the series won't support this game up-front. I personally loved the first. And I'm not alone saying that. Also, Killzone: Liberation was one heck of a game. It seems like GG was a little ambitious with the first though, trying to make it more than their limitations would let them. But Killzone 2 seems like their original vision in terms of intensity and impact. But sometimes, it seems like people use bias as an excuse to lash out at this game. I don't get it. Why??? doesn't sum up how ridiculously confused I am when someone resorts to that. I don't really care though if someones acts that way. In the end, I'll be the one playing this stunning sequel to a "mediocre" original game. I'm glad to see you've grown up a bit WilliamRLBaker.

[bym051d]

Stigmata? Like it's bleeding from its palms?

[The Wood]

lets just hope it play as well as it looks. Either way ill be getting it on day zer0 like many of us on n4g

[aslucher]

well i loved Killzone:Liberation.... and luckily i hadnt played the first Kilzone, as I hear it was bad... but this games looks pretty d@mn sick!!!

[hikikimori]

The game is going to kick @ss. But I wish someone would sink 40 million and 135 developers into something new for once. Killzone 2 will drop jaws don't get me wrong, but there will be about 20 or 30 fps games out as well.

[beavis4play]

what,you think what you're seeing in that playable footage doesn't surpasses anything ever done? i don't pretend to be a game expert or a fanboy, but this game leaves me more amazed everytime i see it. you criticize it for not being new, then why have i not read any posts from you riding the halo games? each one is the same as the last. thats not bad but halo three looks like halo 2 with a couple of new (or upgraded) weapons and maps. sounds like you are more biased against sony than you let on.

[hikikimori]

No, I love Sony. I wasn't directly criticizing KZ2, I was just saying it would be great if that kind of budget/effort was used on an entirely new IP. Even a new genre.
I can't stand Halo btw.

[LOFT316]

look at games like killzone,metal gear,gran turismo they show you what potential the PS3 has when devolpers are making a game from the ground up for the PS3 and these good lookin titles are only in the first year imagine what game's will look like in the next 5 years or so

[ta1snake]

OMG, im so excited. Cant wait.

[Vip3r]

I'm sure the graphics will no doubt match or even surpass the 05 trailer. Can't wait though.

[mighty_douche]

Quote...."It doesn’t have any gimmicks - time travel, performance-enhancing drugs, or gravity guns. Its “novelty” is good looks, intensity, and how it single-handedly shames absolutely almost everything rival consoles had to offer. That said, it’s the second time a Killzone 2 trailer has ruined E3 - this time for making almost every other game look so terrifyingly ordinary. "

nuff said i think!!

[SimmoUK]

This game can't come soon enough, but in a way im glad its coming March because there's so many FPS's this christmas hopefully it will be open to get the credit it's due for destructable enviroments, animation, lighting many of the other fantastic things this game does. Hopefully Sony will let other developers have acess to this engine on PS3 so all the games can look that damn good...

Can't wait for a new enviroment to be shown hopefully at GDC that's when they've said we'll see a newer build can't wait!

[DeZimatoR]

do you know how much Lost Planet costed? more then 30$M (!). So yeah, 40$M isn't that much for a AAA game....its only natural that they cost this much.

Honestly, I couldn't care less if it costs 1$M or 40$M to make, if its good I'll be happy :D

[beavis4play]

lost planet cost 30 million? then killzone 2 is a bargain. lost planet was crap. it's been forgotten less than 6 months after its' release

[MattFoley]

Looks good I'd maybe scoop a PS3 for this game. Anyone think the gun almost looks too realistic and makes the background look a little less realistic in comparison.

Just a thought.

[tudors]

The game does not look as good as the target render, why do people keep saying this; the Gears of war advert said actual in game footage but it was clearly soft focused, the Bioshock TV ad looks slightly better than the ingame footage also, so will people not be honest and accept that the killzone gameplay does not match the target render.

IMO Killzone looks a little like Gears of War, GOW has better textures, Killzone 2 has better pyhsics but no drastic differences.

[mighty_douche]

did you even read it? he you go....
"It doesn’t have any gimmicks - time travel, performance-enhancing drugs, or gravity guns. Its “novelty” is good looks, intensity, and how it single-handedly shames absolutely almost everything rival consoles had to offer. That said, it’s the second time a Killzone 2 trailer has ruined E3 - this time for making almost every other game look so terrifyingly ordinary. "

go back to the xbox section!

[SimmoUK]

Games Radar Disagree's...

"Guerrilla has finally done it - they’ve proven to the world that Killzone on PlayStation 3 not only exists in playable form, but looks just as good as the “target footage” shown at E3 2005. At an exclusive unveiling in Los Angeles, Games Radar were treated to a live 30-minute demo of the game in action, with director Mathijs De Jonge and producer Steven Ter Heide playing a level in real-time, with a Sixaxis, on PS3.

It’s instantly clear how different Killzone 2 is from most other first-person shooters. Not in terms of concept or gameplay, but in that it’s so robust and dynamic. Surfaces shatter and crumble when your bullets hit them, characters move realistically through the environment with weighty animations and the levels are densely packed with detail and spot effects like power lines wobbling in the wind. While a lot of the set-pieces in Resistance and Call of Duty 3 were amazing, it felt like more like you were a spectator rather than actually taking part. Killzone 2 changes all of this. "

I agree with them, you can tout Gears but Killzone 2 looks better than Gears already and it's not out till March...

[tudors]

All I am saying is that the playable demo does not look as good as the target render, if you do that's fine, note that I did not just use Killzone as an example I also used Gears of War and Bioshock, the Xbox-360 and the PS3 both have a good future if the games are anything to go buy, just because I say somthing you don't agree with does not mean I am starting an hardware argument.

I am simply giving my opinion.

[pilotpistolpete]

Your entitled to your opinion, but the disgree button is there for people who don;t agree. I for one think they have beaten the target. They didnt have the dynamic lighting back then and that alone makes it so much better.

Also, I think you got disagrees for saying that gears had better textures. I played and loved gears, heck thats the reason I started into nex gen. But I give credit where it's due and Killzone has much much better textures.

proof: pick up you 360 and put in gears. Go in a single player and go up to a tree. now move left and right. Notice how the tree trunk gets very pixilated in movement? Killzone is all polygons, no bump mapping, so nothing will get pixilated under movement.

[bootsielon]

Besides, if it's "pre-pre-alpha" as they said... I'd like to wait for the final version to see how much it improves.

[beavis4play]

thanks for the compliment tudors. i think that the playable demo looks better than the '05 trailer-it looks less cartoony. the playable demo looks more frightening and real. in '05 i was afraid they were headed toward the halo look. thank god i was wrong.

[Mattguy]

this game is the most incredible looking game ever! And we all have to remember one thing, it isn't even done yet this game in the end is going to look even better. The only possible implication this game COULD have is gameplay, but do you hear anyone who's played the demo say it's bad-no(or at least not as far as I know). I mean a game that uses a whole 2 gigs for a level is bound to be incredible.

[jay3]

I know the game looks great, i made a comment saying just that, but then i read this comment and just had to say something.

Best looking game ever? Possibly, but looking at most games coming out now, it's not anywhere near as impressive as E3 2005, still impressive nonetheless. And the gameplay, all we see is people saying it looks good and things break. I'm STILL waiting on an analasys on the gameplay (Even though if it's bad like that one on here a while ago, PS3 fans will just dismiss it as crap or fake). And 2 gig per level definetly does NOT determine how good the game is, not by a long shot. Most of the 2 gig would be the visuals. I agree in the sense that this game will probably be good, but like someone else said, i need to see the reviews, or play it for myself.

[THE_JUDGE]

get it together guy. We have already read two reports of hands on game play. If you search thru N4G for Killzone 2 you will find them. N'Gai from Newsweek did the first one, and he loved it. He talked about how it looked and more importantly how it felt and played. You seem to be nitpicking. If you want more info you can look it up. Plain and simple the game looks sick. I can't wait!

[nomad117]

Not bad Guerrilla not bad at all

[Saint Sony]

It surely does look good, but Bioshock beats this one easily what comes to atmosphere and mood and storyline. Anyhow, it's great that good games are coming, but there are so many FPS games out there atm. and coming up soon, that I have to pass Killzone 2. I will rent it or buy it from the sales basket someday, just because we all know killzone does not have a history of being a GREAT game. It looks great, but that is not enough.

Hopefully it gets great reviews. Then I am impressed.

[NikV3]

"It surely does look good, but Bioshock beats this one easily what comes to atmosphere and mood and storyline."

lol, better storyline? so will tell all of us what the storyline in killzone 2 is? besides killing hellgahst i dont think a story line has been announced yet. and your judging the atmosphere of the game on 1 demo level. cant we just wait for the game to come out or for a demo to be released for download before its compared to other games.

[jay3]

You know that gameplay video on here a while ago? The one where you only see like 4 people? Well yeah, i want them to put more people there! The people look too good to just show two dudes!

[beavis4play]

you're talking about halo 3 right. because that's what i noticed about the single player. nowhere on any single player halo footage is there more than 2 or 3 characters at one time. i'm glad someone else noticed, even if you mention it on the wrong thread.

[jay3]

No i was talking about this, Killzone 2.

We don't need to see more than 3 people in gameplay videos for H3 (Even though we already have seen vids with more people) because in all previous halos theres been a lotta ppl on screen.

:D

[alexander22rednaxela]

Sony really want to FORCE this game to be PS3`s halo-killer and mascot, though guerilla deny that and states that they only want to make the best game they can make.

Not a good idea of sony to putt allot of pressure on a company without award winning games released yet. Considering that Killzone 2 ain`t competing against Halo`s 97/100 score, but Bioshocks 99`100

[skitzoid]

Sony usually has an action adventure character as their mascot. I would be surpised if Heavenly Sword or Uncharted possibly becomes their mascot. I believe Sony fans, other than these early visuals and hype surrounding Killzone 2 (which appaers to be deserving of every bit of it), I think Socom and MGS4 might give K2 a run for it's money in sales and people playing it online on PSN.

[TriggerHappy]

You must be part of the Guerilla's team and on Sony's board of directors to know so much ?

[Bathyj]

When have Sony EVER said Killzone is a Halo killer? Only fanboys and unimaginative games journalist say that, and then get all disappointted when its not. Sony and GG are just trying to make the best game they can Dude, whats wrong with that. Get Halokiller out of your head. Even if someone made a game that beats Halo undeniable in every department, it still wouldn't kill it. Halos here to stay so relax.

As for Mascots, that not really Sonys style. Other consoles usually have one franchise that carrys them and becomes the "face" of the console. Sony have so many franchises that could that they dont really go for that.

[shysun]

This game is going to be really good,I can feel it.;)

[xg-ei8ht]

I think this game looks awsome, the same way everyone did about gears of war.

I'm not comparing, just saying. These are system sellers.

On the subject of ps3 and the 30fps thing.

I think by this time next year, most devs will know so much more about ps3, and you'll start seeing more and more 60fps 1080p.

[Bathyj]

I agree, but keep in mind, in all this hysteria people have forgot, in most games 30fps is fine, as long as it's a constant 30fps and not choppy. I'm pretty sure RFoM is only 30 isnt it? That runs buttery smooth.

[Real gamer 4 life]

sONY IS OUT FOR YOUR MONEY, WITH THIS GAME. This game is going to be incredible. We might see ps3 reach its peak level, very early on its life span. Sony is making sure that the game looks exactly like the pre render version.

[Real gamer 4 life]

sONY IS OUT FOR YOUR MONEY, WITH THIS GAME. This game is going to be incredible. We might see ps3 reach its peak level, very early on its life span. Sony is making sure that the game looks exactly like the pre render version.

[Real gamer 4 life]

sorry double post

[Bathyj]

I like your confidence. You must be really sure its good if you have to say it twice. ;)

[dachawk]

Can't wait for Killzone 2. Great article. Too bad the author ruined it by it's sony fan boy comments at the end. Until Killzone 2 is up and running on my PS3 and I judge it to be mesmerizing, I'll still consider the PS3 a lite weight core gaming console not worthy of accolades. Looking forward to seeing SOCOM on PS3. Having both Killzone and SOCOM will make PS3 a kiss ass hard core gaming system.

[beavis4play]

the ps3 has only been out 9 months. what an idiot you are to think you can judge a piece of hardware in that short a time. what do you consider a heavyweight console? you must have some bizarre criteria. and, playable on YOUR ps3? the article said they watched the guy play it on a ps3 with a sixaxis controller. you are nit picking that as being a lie? what a paranoid,anal retentive nutjob!

[dachawk]

It's all about the games, to quote Sony. The proof is in the pudding and I'll be the judge the quality once it's up and running on my PS3. I'll be judging the wow factor in single player and multi-player on-line. I'm planning on buying the game, no question about that. Your right, PS3 has only been out 9 months. Sony has another 1.5 years before all their pistons will be firing in sequence (holiday 2008). Chill out.

[Rageanitus]

But the "feel" and atmosphere seem to demonstrate it quite well in comparison to the video.

Good job. But ppl are going to bash it because it is the sequel to kz1.

It just seems like a totally different game, but based on the same time range.

[mcgrawgamer]

I think Sony needs to help dev's like guerilla, naughty dawg, team ninja, and kojima and the crew get out, and show other dev's how to make good games like they have. Over time as they learn the ps3 structure it'll take smaller budgets and smaller teams to get good games out like this one. Sony just needs to get the proper techniques out to the dev's to make good games, like sigma, kz2, uncharted, and msg4.

[happyjimmy]

This game is gonna be making Halo 3 its b!tch!

[Bebedora]

How can no one mention the cost for SE making FF XII ??
It was over $30mn ($35mn or 4bn yen). That must be the record for a released game?

[The Real Joker]

"Watch it. In fact, watch Gundam: Target in Sight first, then Killzone 2. Are they really running on the same machine?"

and

"according to the developers; a single character model has the same amount of polygons as a level in the first Killzone."

Going to be a great game. Pick this up day one I will.

[GameHero]

40 Mill...so what!...M$ payed that just for extra content in GTA4 and from the looks of this game (KZ2) it's worth every penny.

The imporatant thing here is Sony cares about putting out quality games for us gamers!

Quality pwns Quantity!

Go Sony...Woot! woot!

[Odion]

Why can't Sony fans be happy their getting a great game like Killzone 2.

Why Can't xbox fans not comment cause their not getting the game?

[Douche]

For one, "Sony fans", as you call them, are happy they are getting Killzone 2. I'm certainly not disappointed, duhh. And for you second question, I'd rather someone not comment at all than throw out a blatant remark out of angst (rough childhood?) or for w/e reason. That's usually what an "xbot" does for PS3 news. And honestly vise versa. But you know what Odion, I find it odd you'd ask such questions. As if you are so clueless. I've seen you posting nothing but pro-MS, anti-Sony comments which makes your questions hypocritical. Are you bi-polar or something? It's best that others like yourself just didn't comment on such things because your words will most likely serve no good. Unless you can be like WilliamRLBaker and post something with a reasonable unbiased outlook, there's just no sense in it. I'm ready for you to do just the opposite though so go ahead. Do your usual ranting. W/e

[The Wood]

it does go both ways and odion just loves the 360 and pc and thats fair so just say something constructive like william and bladestar did (which was a pleasant surprise) or just move on. We know the colours you wear but you can still show some appreciation and give credit where it is due sometimes.

[daomay]

pull your finger out of your a$$ and thanks sony for making a blockbuster game for us to play next year....

Stop fuking complaining and thanks GG for they hard work...

1)the first killzone game was so bad
2)its not about graphics its about gameplay
3)sony spend too much money on this game lol
4)it will never be a halo killer (who care?)
5)stop being a gal n' be a man n' stop your fuking whining

[Godoftheweek]

For those of you wondering if Sony will share the Killzone2 secrets your answer is YES. Sony said (Phil Harrison) a little over a year ago that they would be combining all of thier studios into one giant studio. On top of that, Sony also said that they would share technology and tools with all 3rd parties who are interested and lend support.

A perfect example of this is the Insomniac tech PDF page, where anyone including you or me can DL it and see specific examples on how they are using the PS3 hardware.

Another example of Sony helping 3rd parties comes from Epic. They said Sony sent in some software engineers to help in the optimization of the UE3 for the PS3. The result? Mark Rein has said that the UE3 for the PS3 is running smoother in the same stage of development as it was on the 360.

So, DUH...Sony is not dumb. They know that developing from the ground up for the 3 is hard work. They will do everything they can to help developers really test the 3's muscle.

Killzone2 is in Pre-pre Alpha, not to metion it is only a second generation game. 1 can only imagine what gaming goodness awaits us in the coming years.

All you have 2 do is look at 1st generation PS2 games and look at the PS2's latest to get an idea.

Gods I cannot wait for this game, and I cannot wait to see what this fracking monster of a machine has instore for us.

[zonetrooper5]

The game does look great and the graphics are amazing, I'm just worrying about the gameplay, I know thet it will pretty much play out like every FPS out there, but I don't mind, if they get the gameplay nailed then I will keep on playing this game again and again. I also don't think this game is in pre pre alpha, I still think its in pre-beta stage.

[achira]

mark my word this game will be the best fps game ever! i have high hopes for that game. it looks insane!!!

[Whoooop]

2008

WILL......BE......OURS!!!!!! :)

Nice to know Killzone is shaping up to be what we expected.. I wish this game gets 9 to 10's reviews... Guerrilla deserves it after so much criticizing they got from KZ1 and 2005 E3 trailer..

[pp]

what i've seen so far i'll give it a 6

[gsx-r]

You'd give it a 9 or 10....typical...just appreciate a good game for being a good game, regardless of the platform...i've always been a playstation guy but still appreciate good games on the xbox.

[THE_JUDGE]

about this game from a reputable source. I can't wait to see more video, game play, hear about the story more, freaking anything. I will own this day one. I would love to hear more about the multiplayer aspect also.

[SpenserTracy]

I always knew I made the right choise. Thank you Sony for bringing me the best of the best in entertainment.

[PS360PCROCKS]

::sigh:: I think I am the only person in the whole world who owns a PS3 that was blown away by this? I can't put my finger on it, I watch it, it looks really great, but im not all giddy about it. I'm more excited about HS, Bioshock, COD4, Halo3, Ratchet and clank, Mass Effect, GT5 and MGS4. I honestly still think that MGS4 and Ratchet and Clank are more technically impressive as well. Don't hang me, only my opinion!

[ENNO]

I liked it when he said "Sony transformed the perception of PS3 from an overpriced extravagance populated by me-too Xbox 360 ports, to the most exciting, important console in the world. It doesn’t have any gimmicks - time travel, performance-enhancing drugs, or gravity guns. Its “novelty” is good looks, intensity, and how it single-handedly shames absolutely almost everything rival consoles had to offer"

[otherZinc]

Stupid, they will never sell enough copies to make that money back!

[Greysturm]

1 million coppies at 40 bucks each... mmmm yeah never specially since the price is 60 for a new game nad resistance and motorstorm already passed the million mark.

[fopums]

KillzOWN 2 is so brutaly awesome, its sad that its going to make almost everyother game I own up until then seem lackluster and not truly next gen....

[Figboy]

if Killzone 2 doesn't win any awards for technical achievements and excellence, then, well, then i'm just going to sit at my keyboard and pout, glaring at the monitor with the fury of a million suns.

anyway, Killzone is looking *FANTASTIC, even though it still has, at the *LEAST, 8 more months to go before it's launched.

8 months in game development time is *HUGE; i should know, i've worked in the gaming industry for years, and i've seen the difference 8 months can make.

the game hasn't even reached the *POLISHING phase yet!

the original Killzone was marred, *ONLY, by over-ambitious game design and a lack of knowledge of the PS2 hardware.

Killzone Liberation on the PSP, was them saying; "hey, we can make a good Killzone game, once we have a handle on the technology."

i guarantee that if Killzone 1 was re-made on the PS2 *NOW, it'd perform and look *MUCH better than it did when released back in, what, 2001/02?

now that Guerilla has some game design experience, and have spent *ALL of their development time studying and learning the PS3's architecture, i think the Killzone 2 game will actually be able to *MEET their original intentions for the game.

as for the 2005/E3 2007 comparisons, i think the E3 2007 trailer *DOESN'T look *EXACTLY like the CG trailer, but i think it comes 90% close.

*HOWEVER, i *DO think that the E3 2007 trailer *SURPASSES the CG trailer in terms of *CONTENT, *ATMOSPHERE, and *INTENSITY. so what if a few puffs of smoke are missing, when there is so *MUCH chaos going on all around you, and at once?

there's a part in the extended 2K7 trailer, where after the dropship lands and your character hops off, you can see one of his comrades pulling another, wounded comrade, out of the line of fire. scripted, to be sure, but the effect is still excellent.

the explosions going off all around you, the bullets whizzing everywhere, the fact that you can barely hear what your comrades are saying due to the din of battle; it's *VERY realistic and immersive, and that's just from the *TRAILER! imagine how it's going to be when you're in *CONTROL of that!

i think Bioshock and Killzone 2 are probably going to be two of the most immersive gaming experiences we're going to get in the next 8 months (not to say the other great games releasing in the next 8 months will be @ss, but that Bioshock and Killzone 2's developers have paid an *INSANE amount of attention to detail when making their games).

i never, not in a million years, thought gaming would be like this, back 22 years ago, when i was 6 years old, playing my cousin's NES in 1985. i'm *CONTINUALLY floored by the leaps and bounds the industry takes every generation (didn't Microsoft say, in 2005, when the 360 launched, that the graphical leap this generation wouldn't be as big? um, i think Gears, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Killzone, Ratchet, and MGS4 to name a few, have proven them wrong).

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

Congrats. I'm sure this game will kick total ass.

I'm not getting excited until I see more though.

It's funny though how PS3 owners try to trash 360 owners and say that it blows everthing out of the water...

All I'm saying is wait and see. It will most likely be a killer AAA, and a system seller that is so desperatley needed.

Too bad you guys can't have it this holiday season. Oh well, maybe next Xmas?

This is what irks me: PS3 owners want me to break down and say, "I hate my Xbox360 because this game isn't coming to it. F**k the 360. I'm actually crying right now because the PS3 makes me feel so small and insignificant. I'm selling my '3fixme' right now so I can have the amazing Killzone 2."

You kids really need to stop freaking out trying to find reasons to justify the price of your console.

Even if Killzone 2 is amazing, I doubt I'll buy a PS3. Maybe, MAYBE if the PS3's library is looking,....maybe....10000% better next year I'll think about dropping the cash. I just can't find a reason to put down my 360 controller.

[gsx-r]

thats great if you dont want one, and you're entitled to your opinion about some PS3 owners, but just like i'm sure it would annoy you to see PS3 guys ranting about why they dont want an Xbox on an Xbox game thread,it's annoying to see you do the same on this thread...

[kn]

I'm looking for some great games to justify a PS3 purchase and this is certainly one of them. I've got a 360 and gears was great, the bioshock demo is freaking awesome and I'm now spoiled on next gen graphics. I can't go back to my PS2 any more. Maybe I should take advantage of the 350 ps3 credit card deal now instead of waiting... games on the PS3 are starting to look really, really tasty.

[Maldread]

if we could get a hands-on preview of the game next time, so we could hear how it played, because that`s what i want to know.

It already looks extremely good (not as good as the CGI from 2005, but still better than i expected) so i`m just interested in how stable the fps will be and how good the multiplayer is.

[SIX]

PS3 is a great system. It's nice to hear a good honest post for a change. When, or if you decide to get a PS3, I would be more than happy to kick your a$$ on line :P.

UPDATE: Oh yeah BTW, This game looks HOT yeah?!?

[DuceWilly947]

besides this will be the halo (ooohhh i mean) goldeneye killer, cant wait to see the faces of xbots crying in terror, LOL, just playing, but this will be the best FPS ever

[razer]

I watch the E3 footage I get chills!! The part when camera is looking down the street and you see the troop transport fly off is just mind-blowing!!

I cannot wait to get my hands on it to see how it feels and how the whole game looks. So far so awesomely good!

[gsx-r]

couldnt agree more!

[GnaM]

Am I the only one who's tired of hearing journalists compare the game to the 2005 trailer? I never thought the 2005 E3 trailer was that impressive to begin with, and furthermore, I don't freaking care how good the cutscenes look, show me some freaking gameplay!

Secondly, this game is getting way too much attention simply by virtue of the system its on. Ultimately, I don't care whether the game is on 360 or PS3, as long as its a good game. As far as the gameplay goes, it doesn't look bad, but we haven't seen anything yet to warrant the amount of hype its getting.

[Bloodshedder]

where can i see the video!!!! plz post post POSTTTTTTTTT

[Shaka2K6]

Looks like this will be the best FPS of all time, its like nothing that has ever been played before.

[Raptors]

Killzone is an outstanding achievement so far on the ps3. However, I must ask, if Microsoft were to shell out the same amount of money and man power on another game for the 360 can the same results be produced? It's not a comment I'm making, just a question as I'd like to hear EDUCATED or well informed comments being made. I know a problem for the 360 might be disc space for a game so robust. But I'd like to hear ppl's thoughts...

[jackfatal]

because ps3 cant handle so much complex calculations like ps3!
the ps3 cell processor is more powerful then x360 and ps3 have much more processors then the x360!!

[SDS Overfiend]

The game or the demo? Anyway this games looks 2 years past its prime.

Oh yeah as for the Sony fanboys who say Bioshock is just another fps...... I'll say Killzone is just another fps.

From Gamesradar.

" time travel, performance-enhancing drugs, or gravity guns. Its “novelty” is good looks, intensity, and how it single-handedly shames absolutely almost everything rival consoles had to offer. That said, it’s the second time a Killzone 2 trailer has ruined E3 - this time for making almost every other game look so terrifyingly ordinary. "

This must be a sony fanboy site or the most bias pos i ever heard.

Calling Half=Life and Bioshock gimicky? This nigga done up and lost his mind.

[DuceWilly947]

that was stupid, bioshock looks great, and so does KZ2, come on

But KZ2 will be the best, it has that gray palette that any hardcore gamer loves, off the chart graphics, nice AI, dont go and lose yo mind my nigga