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PlayStation Move demos impress as Sony disses Kinect

ARS: This is why we're so bullish on the PlayStation Move. It creates new experiences while fitting nicely with the games you're already playing; it's not going to take an entire paradigm shift for developers to begin coding for it. The Kinect, on the other hand, requires an entirely new gaming vocabulary to interact with games; many tech demos are simply rail-based experiences. While the Move is brimming with possibility, the Kinect still suffers from many basic, unanswered questions.

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Cloudberry4992d ago (Edited 4992d ago )

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Anyway, I'm looking forward for the full field report of the PlayStation MOVE.

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gtamike4992d ago

Good topic to send the PlayStation Move haters to :)
E.g. move is just wii hd that type of crap lol

Samus HD4992d ago

somehow it is and somehow not
because nintendo can do more great games than sony
that's the big difference because games matters more
nintendo is a far great publisher than sony
why do you think nintendo sold so much ( and the games too) ????

rockleex4992d ago (Edited 4992d ago )

But I'll never get games like Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, God of War, Gran Turismo, Demon's Souls, Heavy Rain, Little Big Planet, Uncharted 2, etc on any other system.

I'd like motion controls on THESE type of games and not with Mario or Zelda.

Don't get me wrong, those are great games too. But just not my type. They're too traditional with the way they play, even though they incorporate motion controls.

I would buy a Wii, but everytime I look at its library I realize why I never did.

kanetheking4992d ago

but nintendo lack the games that appealed to me.they did not sell so much last gen so was they great back then?

yocdub4992d ago

Sorry to burst your very ignorant little bubble Samus, but the only reason it has sold more than Sony & M$ is because its the cheapest of the 3 consoles, its safe for the kiddies and a comatose monkey with down syndrome can use it. You can literally count the good games Nintendo has in its library on your hooked hand...as for the amount of Shovelware it produces in a given week, a mother of 3 could drown her kids in it. I'll start listening to you when Nin makes a game on par with LBP, or a Shooter Like Gears or even KillZone, or a Battle game Like Warhawk, or how about a racing game like GT or Forza. How about HD or even an Online service that doesn't require smashing your face into a brick wall to enjoy. Enjoy your Zelda/Mario/Samus love circle and please leave gaming to real gamers who don't have to wait til grandma is done playing.

beardpapa4992d ago

when you got a cheap system like the Wii and the only worthwhile games to get on it are games that feature mario, zelda, and/or pokemon.... obviously those games will sell more. Look at the other offerings on the Wii. They have piss-poor sales!

You can't call Nintendo a far greater publisher than Sony when all they have always relied on was Mario and when their gameboy and DS systems relied heavily on 6+ iterations of Pokemon to drive sales. Talk about milking a franchise.

Hideo_Kojima4992d ago

what a freaking cant understand is how people believe nintendo is like the innovation master?

I look at Nintendo and all I see is the biggest MILKING cooperation in the world.

Mario has been milked beyond belief in over 200 games... I can't even comprehend how the hell they made that many Mario games.

Yet when MW makes a second game you all bad mouth it and claim Activision is milking the Call of Duty brand name.

GET REAL PEOPLE.

Count4991d ago (Edited 4991d ago )

I love your comment, Yocdub. The whole part where you call Samus ignorant and then show off your own ignorance.

It's great.

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djevolve4992d ago

oh so you can put on some mickey mouse gloves and jerk off. Right on looks awsome, seems ps3 fans love shovel ware when it's on there system.

YES IT'S A TOTAL WII RIP OFF IF YOU DON'T THINK SO THEN YOUR KIDDING YOUR SELF. I own a wii, I know that it is a rip off. wii can do anything that move does.

PHOSADRA4992d ago

What are you talking about?
Wii rip off?
Yeah right >.<
Sony has been researching motion control for years.
It just happens that using a controller is better than hands free....

Sony couldn't wait for Nintendo to release the Wii and then try to copy the controller.
If they did....the Move controller would still be undergoing extensive development....Especially after considering the improved functionality and percision

djevolve4992d ago

Sure thats why nintendo beat them to it. Oh I get it, they have been researching it ever since nintendo sold three times as many systems as they did.

ChozenWoan4992d ago

the same tech Sony licensed to give the PSMove it's basic motion sensing abilities. Then Sony upped the game by adding the Eyetoy tech they've been developing to the move, thus putting it into a league of it's own.

and now you've just been Philled in.

CobraKai4992d ago

They have been researching it before Wii sold millions. Look at the pic in the article, that's a PS2.

http://www.joystiq.com/2005...

BulletToothtony4992d ago

wow... somebody uses the wiimote for other purposes MORE than playing video games...

ooh

Ron_Danger4992d ago

don't forget about all those on rail shooters and year 1 PS2 graphics that the move does just like the Wii

/s

mxrider24992d ago

You know whats the best part about hitting yourself with a stick?.......

.....WHEN YOU STOP!!!

DarkTower8054992d ago (Edited 4992d ago )

Can Wii do HD?
Can Wii do 3D positional tracking?
Can the Wiimote track movements outside the sensor bar range?
Can the Wii do head and body tracking?
Can the nunchuck be wireless?
Does the Wii have built in batteries for its controllers?
Can the Wii integrate a camera with its motion control games?

Yes djevolve, the Wii can do everything the Move can /s.

I love Nintendo but let's not fool ourselves with what the Wii is capable of. I held on to my Wii for way too long, waiting for something that can compare to the great games on the PS3 and 360, but nothing ever came, so I finally sold it. The concept of the Wii was great, but lets face it, all the good games the Wii has don't use motion controls, and are better served using a Gamecube controller. Why Nintendo didn't make every game compatible with a gamecube controller is beyond me.

Sony took the motion control tech and perfected it with the Move. That's what this business is about, improving. There's no need to hate on Sony for taking things to the next level. Maybe you should hop on board one of these days and you will see how much fun you could have, you might never go back :)

djfullshred4991d ago

So what if it is a Wii rip off? A Wii rip off with better games sounds like a good idea.

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cliffbo4992d ago

exactly where is Sony dissing Kinect in there?

HydraxFFx4992d ago (Edited 4992d ago )

The Move is imitating hands, which is Kinect's input.

cliffbo4992d ago

lol. that's a stretch to get that headline though.

sikbeta4992d ago

ROFLMAO!

Don't forget the black t-shirt....

8-bit4992d ago

"The Kinect, on the other hand, requires an entirely new gaming vocabulary to interact with games; many tech demos are simply rail-based experiences. While the Move is brimming with possibility, the Kinect still suffers from many basic, unanswered questions."

Nothing but Rail games because Kinect's buttonless limitations

cliffbo4992d ago

mmmmmmm... ok, i stand corrected lol

Jrome4992d ago

"You'll notice that Anton was comfortably sitting on a couch when using the PlayStation Move controllers and the PlayStation Eye never reacted negatively to its reflection from our wall of monitors," Rey Gutierrez, Senior Social Media Specialist wrote on the official PlayStation Blog. "These aren’t gesture triggering animations, folks, but true 1:1 gameplay."

adamx4992d ago

only a matter of time before micro$oft starts selling A kinnect controller for $99.99 and just act like "your body is the controller" was never EVER said.

DaTruth4992d ago

"You will never need a HDD to play any of our games... er... except Forza 3 and installing all games if you want them to survive 3 mos."

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Tommykrem4992d ago

Nice demo and cool LBP music.
I think the embargo for Move game reviews lift tomorrow, but take that with a pinch of salt.

btk4992d ago

Move is going to own this holiday. Already pre-ordered. Can't wait for Golf with Move controller.

divideby04992d ago

yea... but it will probably be next year before we get the golf game we really want to play

Myze4992d ago

Would love to see a new Hot Shots! Golf game with Move support.

FFXI1014992d ago

It already did, with the Sorcery plus the support of many PS3 games.

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Joy Ride Turbo - The Beginning of the End for Xbox Kinect

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10 of the Biggest Video Game Hardware Failures Ever

Cultured Vultures: "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal, and no matter how much developers might try, some gaming hardware just fails to hit the mark. We’ve compiled a list of 10 gaming hardware fails, and boy did some fail hard."

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Knightofelemia831d ago

I would label the Power Glove, Kinect, and that Tony Hawk skateboard more as hardware addons hardware failure would be like the Virtual Boy and one day Stadia.

Magog830d ago

Kinect was bundled with every Xbox One and inflated the price on an already underpowered and low RAM machine so for the One it wasn't an accessory as much as a white elephant.

CaptainHenry916830d ago (Edited 830d ago )

Definitely the RROD but that power glove had a lot of issues as well. The Kinect just didn't work

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CrimsonWing69830d ago

Hardware add-ons are more like RAM or a video card, basically components that enhance capabilities or performance of the computer.

If you really want to get technical the Kinect is more of a peripheral device, kind of like a keyboard or mouse to a computer.

ThatsGaming830d ago

The person in this article obviously is not up on their gaming history....

Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Coleco Gemini, Commodore 128, Commodore Amiga, Atari 5200, Atari 7800 were all massive failures and in most cases cost their companies participating in future gaming generations.

Gamer79830d ago

Sega saturn (successful in Japan) and dreamcast were not failures.
Seems like you're not up on you're gaming history

septemberindecember830d ago

@Gamer79

How in the world are the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast not seen as failures? They both sold around 8M each, which is much lower than the ~30M that the Genesis had sold before it, and even the Master System before that. They were both the worst selling consoles in their respective generation (PS1, N64 outsold Saturn, PS2, GC, and Xbox outsold Dreamcast). Both of the consoles were incredibly short lived. The Saturn was discontinued in every territory but Japan after just three years. In Japan the console was discontinued after six years. Meanwhile the Dreamcast was discontinued worldwide in 2001 after launching in most territories in 1999 and in Japan in 1998. The failure of the Saturn and Dreamcast lead to Sega pulling out of the hardware market. Which, by the way, all of this occurred when Sega was massively dropping the price of their consoles quickly to compete. Sega was hemorrhaging money at this point.

None of this indicates a successful console. Saying the Saturn was a success because it did better in Japan is like saying the Vita is a success (they both sold around the same amount of units in Japan). Even the Wii U outsold these consoles worldwide.

Magog830d ago

The picture should be the 360 RROD. When I think of gaming hardware failures that's what springs to mind. Kinect and it's bundled price tag definitely hobbled the already underpowered Xbox One though for sure so I would give it a close second place.

porkChop830d ago (Edited 830d ago )

That's not what the author means by failures. It's about hardware that failed in terms of sales (Wii U) or just failed to deliver on its promise (Kinect).

Magog830d ago (Edited 830d ago )

Given that the 360 had a year head start, much easier hardware to develop for, was cheaper, and still ended up in third place I think it qualifies especially when you factor in the frustration and huge losses incurred by RROD.

porkChop830d ago

Selling over 80 million consoles isn't a sales flop. We get it, you don't like Xbox, but that doesn't mean the 360 is suddenly a failure.

Rhythmattic830d ago

Porky....
You know how many people I know bought a 2nd or third 360 due to RROD? Even when MS had to confront the issue with replacement systems, my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in, and waiting for a replacement.,,..,..
If that's how you consider it a win... OK.. but so is having 5 , of which 3 don't function.... Its a win win....mwhahahahaha

porkChop829d ago

"my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in"

You're acting like it would take months. When I sent my 360 in I got a new one literally 5 days later. As soon as MS had tracking confirmation that you sent yours, they'd send a new one to you the same day. No one is going to spend hundreds to buy a new console instead of waiting a week. I swear you guys pull some of the dumbest shit out of nowhere and think people will actually believe it.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about.

Rhythmattic829d ago (Edited 829d ago )

Porky
"You're acting like it would take months"
Sometimes it could.. FFS.. 'Strya here...
Best turnaround I reckon was 2-3 weeks.....
Either way, My mates experiences still exist.. So Sorry, no point trying to earn Xbox Achievements when it doesn't feature in what was a situation you never dealt with,,,,
3 of my friends would disagree (overall, 10 extra Xboxes purchased)
Regardless.. MS sold a lot of 360's that was due to this reason.. That is sales. Fact

"none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about."
Headline says HELLO !
Oh and "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal," that's enough to pass this on without taking your article bias into consideration.....
As for the rest.... Ok.. But you've actually gone out of your way to give MS a Pass... Fap on.

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Aloymetal830d ago (Edited 830d ago )

Yup, and because of that big fiasco MS had to fork out 1 billion but knowing them I think they're very proud of the 360, it's the only time a MS console reached 80mil+ sales, RROD played a big part of that and a record they will never break again.

Rhythmattic830d ago (Edited 830d ago )

So true.. Even when MS accepted they where caught out in the biggest lie of any generation, The wait for a replacement was outweighed by just buying another, and having one be returned as a backup, which, btw, generally failed on first swap.
I own honestly can't believe MS tards are just supporting , or arguing why and what MS did by just dismissing it....

lonewolf10830d ago

Lol I had the Atari Jaguar, surprised its "competition" the 3DO isn't on the list too, both as "popular" as each other.

SullysCigar830d ago

Lol same. Played the crap out of Aliens Vs Predator and Tempest 2000 .... aaand that's about it really!!

lonewolf10830d ago

Sad but true that was pretty much it.

Kurt Russell830d ago

Agreed, I never actually saw a 3DO make it to retailers in the UK. At least the Atari Jaguar was sold for around 6 months.

lonewolf10830d ago

It made it to some my brother got one, fared just as well as the Jaguar so most probably hard to find in general.

darthv72830d ago

3do had way better games. Jaguar not so much. Neo Geo sold less than both and yet isnt considered a failure. Go figure.

LWOGaming830d ago

Stadia is a weird one. It hasn’t sold at all well but in terms of how it works it’s still miles ahead of Xcloud in terms of stability and performance. Xcloud is still a way behind and that needs sorting but it will be in time. Stadia for me is one of those things that will go down as a what could have been moments. With better marketing it could have been a roaring success. I still play it and it remains the best place in my opinion to play CyberPunk 2077. Only platform I have played it on without having any issues at all. The tech is great. The concept is fine. Marketing terrible. Shame really.

Magog830d ago

The sales model was awful. They should have teamed with an existing player to allow for local and cloud access to games or a gaming subscription service.

LWOGaming830d ago

It was a strange mess from such a huge company, as I said, as a system it works really well but without gamers it’s nothing. Such a waste,

LWOGaming830d ago

The Xbox One was Microsoft’s Nintendo Wii U. Undercooked, undersold and just an unholy mess. The thing is with any of these failures is to learn from them and thankfully both Nintendo and Xbox did just that to the benefit of gamers everywhere.

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