jidery5008d ago (Edited 5008d ago )

A D-Pad redesign is a must because the one place the Xbox controller failed!

I never understood why console companies couldn't just have 3 designs out on the market at the same time, so people can have a choice on what controller they use rather than just being stuck with one design. I am not a fan of the out of place left stick, and i much prefer it right next to my right one, and i don't want to get a POS generic brand controller.

8-bit5008d ago (Edited 5008d ago )

I almost thought you said it was the one place xbox failed. I was about to burst your bubble. I actually really love the feel of the xbox controller. It feels nicer than the Dualshock in my opinion but it's not a deal breaker.

0mega45008d ago (Edited 5008d ago )

more things for microsoft to have us re-buy /s

i can add my old dpad controller
to the pile of rrod xboxs
wifi adapter, wired controller, battery packs, proprietary hard drives, hddvd drive, web camera thing

but hey i got an awesome xbox slim thats glossy and quiet
and im paying even more for xbox live yey!

next time Microsoft please use lube

ElementX5008d ago (Edited 5007d ago )

Well at least MS controllers have replaceable battery packs, you have to buy a whole new DS3...

btw, how is a wifi adapter, hddvd, and web cam "rebuying"? Last time I checked, you only had to buy those things once if you wanetd it.

Also, if you had a RROD, why would you keep them all when MS extended the warranty for 3 years?

SilentNegotiator5007d ago (Edited 5007d ago )

Microsoft and Sony should redesign their controllers.
MS needs to fix their D-pad and Sony their "triggers"

"Well at least MS controllers have replaceable battery packs, you have to buy a whole new DS3"
Debunked fanboy myth. The DS3 battery can indeed be replaced. You just have to special order it and do up some screws and you have a replaced battery.

0mega45007d ago

im a heavy user on my xbox and if you are to you know that you've had to replace the battery several times and there not cheap at all its like 20 dollars while a ds3 is 50 and if you know how to remove skrews you can replace the battery in the ps3 controller

Hallmark Moment5007d ago (Edited 5007d ago )

Well at least with MOVE you don't have to throw the motion stick away because it has batteries.

eggbert5007d ago

you can replace a dualshock 3's battery, unless you don't know how to operate a screwdriver. I'm assuming you don't?

killedinaction95007d ago

eneloop batteries last for ages.
no need to buy any new batteries for a long time.

Yi-Long5007d ago (Edited 5007d ago )

... Yet, once again the question pops up: Why the hell make the newly designed controller LIMITED, instead of just replacing the old controller permanently with the new and improved D-pad version!?!?

FURY__UNLEASHED5007d ago

The controllers that come the 360 slim have a redesigned d-pad. I got a 360 slim a couplke weeks ago. The d-pad actually works properly...

Theonik5007d ago

Limited edition my ass. Bundle it with the console!

dabri55007d ago

Because he doesn't really have any of those things laying around in a pile. He is just trying to make a point. The most he prob has is a XBOX slim and live account. Maybe a recharge battery.
As I've said many times here, there is absolutely no reason to toss a RROD 360 as they are all within warranty. I very seriously doubt there is anyone who has had their 360 for more than 4 years without it rrod on them at least once. As soon as it does, you get MS to fix it and your 3 year warranty starts over.
The only people who aren't able to get a FREE repair are the ones who modded their console. Can you really say you feel bad for them?

DelbertGrady5007d ago

It's not like they took away rumble and forced us to buy new controllers just to experience a "last gen feature", is it?

AngryTypingGuy5007d ago

"yey
more things for microsoft to have us re-buy /s"

What's wrong with MS slightly improving their already close-to-perfect controller? If this was Sony doing this, people would be saying how awesome of a company they are, but because MS is revamping their controller, they're greedy and evil. Remember MS isn't forcing anyone to go out and buy a new controller.

darthv725007d ago

i distinctly remember on n4g an article about a year (maybe 2) about a new red controller that was being released with a better d-pad.

I personally dont have a problem with it. I like the feel of the whole controller and if they refine the points on the d-pad to improve response then that is cool too.

I mean the 360 d-pad is nothing like the 3do one was when that came out. You had to tweak the screws on the back to get the diagonal response to work until they made a better design.

Anybody remember that besides me?

Trroy5007d ago (Edited 5007d ago )

Just FYI to those who don't know: Sony will replace controllers with worn-out batteries for free, as I recall (I think you s=till need to pay shipping, much like the 360 coffin).

Also, DualShock3s have lithium ion batteries in them -- which last MUCH longer than the nickel-metal-hydride, etc., rechargables you can buy for the 360. We're talking a good 8-10 years here -- i.e. the entire console generation, and thousands of charges, not the 200 or so charges you tend to get out of a pair of NiMH AAs (~2-3 years I'd say... less if you have a charging stand). The chances of you sending one to Sony before then are slim to none.

The Sony battery solution is the better one -- make no mistake about it. It's laughable to think that people believe otherwise, although I suppose the reasoning requires more than average-joe knowledge.

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Blaze9295008d ago

it took them 5 years to realize the dpad on that shit sucked ass? wow Microsoft.

Can't wait to see the new design. Hopefully not a full controller design but just the d-pad. and limited edition? sure...

Fan Tastic5008d ago

No kidding!! 5 years to make a controller that doesn't suck ass.. 5 years to make a controller that will actually work with 2D games or or other games the require using the d-pad to move in a straight right or left direction!

Funky Town_TX5008d ago

That is the only issue I have with the controller.

Blaze9295008d ago

woah hold up, the dpad is the same one form the original xbox controller is it not? make that 9 years then.

Redrum0595008d ago (Edited 5008d ago )

its about time, the d-pad sucks on that controller, try playing games like MvC2 with it... you cant.
they might sell it at 69.99 or something

Corepred45008d ago

You play mvc2 with the dpad? How's that working out for you? Able to do all the combos easily?

Yi-Long5007d ago

... plus they hike up the price for LIVE, and continue to rip us off with DLC etc etc...

... well.... then that's it. I'll be done paying for the 360 and I'll just get it modded. There's only so much wallet-raping I can take before I say: 'well... now it's starting to sting a bit...'.

The controllers are way overpriced as they are already, and the D-PAD (which should have been a pretty damn basic and simple thing to actually get right) should have been perfect before the controller even got released, instead of many MANY years later getting a 'fix', and then only a 'limited' fix.

They better not charge more for it than the 'normal' controller.

Kurt Russell5007d ago

I use my d-pad to change weapons... nothing more. Happy to use analogue, and the proprietor of a fightstick when it is required.

Yi-Long5007d ago

... I've had it with Microsoft.

1: The FINALLY fix a problem that shouldn't have been there in the first place.

2: They then decide to bundle it with something I don't need, while the controller is already hevaily overpriced as it is, making it even more expensive.

What a bunch of crap :( Typical though.

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ElementX5007d ago (Edited 5007d ago )

"debunked fanboy myth"

I'm not a fanboy :) If anything I play PS3 more, until I started ME1 and 2 back-to-back. I was unaware about special ordering batteries, BTW I didn't disagree.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/...

Bgibbs5007d ago

You don't have to "special order" them, they are all over E-bay.

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from...

-PINNER-5007d ago

I was unaware that the batteries in a DS3 needed replacing, I've been rocking mine since release. It still holds its charge for over 12hrs. I play about 10-15 hours a week, so for the last 2 1/2 years I've played around 1600 hrs on its original battery. I think I'll end up buying a new controller due to it wear and tear before I need a new battery.

na2ru15007d ago

that it has a comfier shaped grip. Home button is too big and too easy to accidently press.

DeFFeR5007d ago

How in the world to do you accidentally press the guide button?

I have never once pushed that button on accident - weird.

Same with the PS3 - but that's smaller. I still don't know how you can do that - do you hold the controller weird or something?

Microsoft_Spokesman5007d ago

LMAO I don't think I EVER pressed my guide button accidentally too.

OneSneakyMofo5007d ago

Too bad I can't buy a new controller because of the price hike :(

DeFFeR5007d ago

http://www.walmart.com/ip/X...

http://www.newegg.com/Produ...

Don't piss and moan because you can't type 4 words into a google search and hit "shopping"

PS360PCROCKS5007d ago

thank you rad. I hate when people do that. Like when they enter a story on N4G and say "whats the release date" google it you lazy shit, it's what I do! I usually do it for them, but it makes no sense to me.

PopEmUp5007d ago

Actually ElementX don't, hes just a 6 years old kid playing his daddy laptop

joydestroy5007d ago (Edited 5007d ago )

they re-designed the d-pad a while ago and did something like this. it was on a limited edition controller that was a lime color.

edit: here it is http://www.gamespot.com/new...

xxchicago33xx5007d ago

@Yi-Long If it's limited they can charge you $79.99....duh

Shepherd 2145007d ago

Some of you guys are completely pathetic.

A new controller design with an improvement on something that tons of people have been complaining about for years(the D-pad), and some of you still bitch.

ridiculous.

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penguinhunter5008d ago

I love my Xbox, but the d-pad on the controller blows. If this new controller's d-pad is better, considered one sold.

Abash5008d ago

Consider two sold to me if the D-pad is good. I can't stand the D-pad on the regular 360 controller, it's just horrible

TrevorPhillips5008d ago (Edited 5008d ago )

thank god now i can play fighting games on 360 :)

theonlylolking5008d ago

YES!! Now change how far we can more the radius of the xbox analog sticks. Why cant we move them far? Its like they thought to themselves this

Lets make a controller that is super confortable to hold but make a crap d-pad and make it so that you cant move the analog sticks up, down, left or right far so are players will be inaccurate.

ZombieAutopsy5008d ago

I can play fighters on my 360 now? Day 3 buy for me.

dgroundwater5008d ago

Lol a day three? Is that some sort of euphemism with the kids these days? Or is your paycheck always late?

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Einhander19721d 6h ago

"we believe in game preservation"

Remember the media reaction when PlayStation wanted to shut down the PS3 store (but then kept it open)... where is that reaction here?

CrimsonWing691d 6h ago

What are you asking? Like, if people got pissed at Sony for that? Because they did. We also got pissed at Nintendo when they did it.

You’re getting a chance to buy what you want before they close it. Moving forward digital stores should work like Steam. It’s just in this beginning they made it platform specific and closed off. A hindsight in their part and it sucks, but what is the percentage of people buying anything off these stores and what is the cost to keep the servers up?

I get it and yes making strives so this isn’t the case every gen we go into is absolutely a must. I mean PSN on PS3 is so convoluted to buy anything since you can’t use a credit card. Vita store is gone. It’s going to go away eventually.

Einhander19721d 5h ago

"What are you asking? Like, if people got pissed at Sony for that? Because they did. We also got pissed at Nintendo when they did it."

My point is when PlayStation did this every website under the sun was writing articles talking about how "anti-consumer" it was yet I haven't seen anything like that happening when it's xbox doing it, in fact mostly what I see is praise from media when xbox makes obviously false claims about game preservation while they close down their store and xblig and push for digital only consoles streaming and subscriptions.

What I am asking is for everyone to be criticized or praised equally.

I mean look at the way the PS5 Slim's detachable disk drive was reported, it was super critical. Even though in reality they made it easier for people who initially buy a digital only console to move to physical, it was actually a step away from digital only. But did it get reported like that at all... no.

And you can still buy stuff on PlayStation you just need to add money to your account on the website or a PS4/5.

Tacoboto1d 5h ago

That reaction isn't here because you can still play Xbox 360 discs of supported BC titles on Series and Xbox One, and you can still buy BC titles on the current Xbox Store.

It still sucks losing access to non-BC titles but don't act like it's the same situation. Let me know when PS5 actually supports my PS3 library.

Einhander19721d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

How are you going to play those discs on your Series S (which 75% of xbox owners have) or your adorably all digital Series X?

And keep in mind that BC on xbox is an extremely limited selection of games, it's less than 25% of retail releases, and way less than the entire catalogue.

It's not a solution for the future, this isn't how "game preservation" looks, it's the fake PR that makes it that much worse.

Tacoboto1d 5h ago

I'm not getting an all digital Series X so bark up someone else's tree, creep. I have my Series X for that disc support and functioning old hardware I still buy discs for (Bought Sudeki, Super Paper Mario, and 3D Dot Game Heroes a few months back - one for each old platform).

Fact is there's a mechanism that exists for Xbox OG and 360 BC physically and digitally. PS has none for PS1 or 2 or 3. If you're gonna bring PS into an Xbox article, at least know what you're talking about.

Einhander19721d 3h ago

"Fact is there's a mechanism that exists for Xbox OG and 360 BC physically and digitally. PS has none for PS1 or 2 or 3. If you're gonna bring PS into an Xbox article, at least know what you're talking about."

I understand that, I'm making commentary on the fact that xbox is moving to digital only (and that the vast majority of current gen xbox owners do not have a disc based option) and not towards preservation as they claim.

And obviously people can play games on the original hardware for as long as that lasts, I have hundreds of games from "retro" consoles, I own nearly 200 PS3 discs alone.

Is there some reason, you feel the need to make personal insults in every comment, I reply to what you say without insulting you. But you know whatever, it says more about you than me...

And for the record "you" was being used colloquially I wasn't speaking you directly.

shinoff21831d 1h ago

It won't as far as emulation. The os3 was built different.

I am in agreement though. I wish Sony would sell like an ultimate console. Have it where you have to order off their site and make it have real bc. Like the og ps3 had ps2 inside so to say.

Tacoboto1d 1h ago

@Ein You're a creep because of your obsessive comment history making everything revolve around Sony or how awful Xbox is to a point that you're now just throwing irrelevant things in any way you can.

And don't try to make "you" colloquially now just because you're wrong about me and your feelings got hurt.

Einhander197221h ago

Whatever, keep insulting me, if you think that is going to make me change my opinions or what I say you couldn't be more far from the truth.

How you choose to treat other people only reflects poorly on you. (and this time it's not colloquially)

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darthv721d 5h ago

The PS3 situation may have something to do with no forward way to play those games on newer hardware. Not to mention the PS3 store has been around far less than the 360 store. 360 store closing was expected and they did a pretty good job making many of its digital games forward compatible with XBO and subsequently the Series as well. Ones they could not come to an agreement with are going to be left behind, but here is your chance for last minute deals for you to continue playing on your 360.

Just because the 360 store closes doesnt make all of those games you have (digital/physical) stop working on real 360 hardware. If people have physical 360 games, chances are they also have the means to play them. Just like People with PS3 games having a PS3. It would be nice if all older games worked on newer hardware... but that is not for us to decide, that is for MS, Sony and Nintendo.

Asplundh1d 3h ago

Difference being the 360 games will still be sold on series consoles, while the PS5 only preserved a selection of Ps3 games for premium subs. If the Xbox 360 store closes the games will still be available, if the Ps3 store closes then those games are gone.

How does this contradict what they said about game preservation?

Einhander19721d 3h ago

As far as what I have read that is not accurate, except for a small selection of games that are available through BC.

And even when the PS3 and Vita stores were going to be shut down they still were still going to be available to download if you purchased them already.

rlow121h ago

So you’re asking for equal treatment? That’s not how the world works or don’t you know? Which I can can’t believe you’re that naive. Xbox gets attacked on this site all the time. You have to ask why that was a big deal amongst the PS3 fan base? Because it wasn’t Xbox fans that were throwing up a huge stink. It’s was PlayStation fans and look at the results, Sony gave in and kept it open. You should celebrate it, instead of worrying about who takes it on the chin more.

The one thing I’ve Learned, is these companies don’t need people to defend them. They have all done things worth criticizing, but it will never be equal.

darthv7220h ago

While the 360 store is closing and you will not be able to make any new purchases from a 360..... you can still download content you have previously purchased prior to the closure. The same can also be said about access to 360 games available on the XBO/Series. You will be able to make new purchases of titles that are available on the current store as well as download previously purchased content that is also compatible with the XBO/Series.

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1Victor1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

RIP Xbox 360 digital store and all its games.
It really grinds my gears that they are waiting till 10 days before closing to give the best discounts and the list as of now is 100 or less titles from the massive 360 library

Phoenix761d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

I should have enough points by the weekend to get £25 credit off MS, (hardly ever spend money on xb1), might look at a few of these.

DivineHand1251d 6h ago

The Xbox 360 store was one of the only advantages the Xbox Series consoles had over the PS5. When I got my series X, I spent more playing Xbox 360 games vs current-gen Xbox games since that was the golden era for Xbox and several titles had enhancements such as 4k resolution and fps boost.

Closing this store will now only benefit the competition.

VersusDMC1d 5h ago

The xbox360 store is closing on the xbox 360.

Xbox 360 games are unaffected on the xbox one and series consoles.

Einhander19721d 5h ago

"Xbox will stop supporting the ability to purchase new games, DLC, and other entertainment content from the Xbox 360 Store on the console ->and the Xbox 360 Marketplace (marketplace.xbox.com).<-&q uot;

You will not be able to purchase any 360 games. You will only be able to play xbox discs if you have a console that support discs which doesn't look great for the future of xbox, if it has one.

VersusDMC1d 4h ago

@Ein

Why are you repeating what i said?

You will not be able to buy digital 360 games to play on your 360.

You will still be able to buy 360 games on Xbone and Series consoles. Go to marketplace.xbox.com, that's the old browser store and not the new one.

Knightofelemia1d 1h ago

Won't be long before Sony pulls the plug on the PS3.

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