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PS Move Calibration Screens

With the release of MAG beta, Gamers are trying to use the PS Move in the beta, If you have a PlayStation Move controller turned on when you start the MAG Beta, it asks you to calibrate the controller.

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tunaks15008d ago

is it just me or does the pointer seem to lag or not match up with the controller?
The sub controller looks much much more comfortable.

Cevapi885007d ago

and you were able to deduce this from photos?

da fuk?!

SeanRL5006d ago

There is lag between the controller and mag and that's where to pics are from. Not the controllers fault though.

Scary695006d ago

LMAO, I was thinking the same thing. HAHA

Dee_915006d ago

now lets see some game play with this

lmao @tunaks1 i had to double read that

Ares84PS35006d ago

Seriously dude....are you right in the head?

BannedForNineYears5006d ago

ROFL.
But yeah, the 22ms of lag is due to the camera.
If you don't like it, don't even bother trying out Kinect or the Wii. ~_~

Qui-Gon Jim5006d ago (Edited 5006d ago )

The dualshock has latency of 16ms. The extra 6ms that Move has is probably mostly from the software that runs it.

Also, I have said a few times that the lag from these motion controllers is more visible because of the physical space that you cover while making the movement. It's harder to see the lag after moving your thumb two millimeters than it is to see the lag after you swing your arm a couple feet.

Scottyabanks5006d ago

And the FAIL of the day award goes to....

ChickeyCantor5006d ago (Edited 5006d ago )

Ìf you look closely you can see the two pointers( one from your aiming and one from the character) , what looks like, synced.
Unless the character isn't moving with you, I can understand why Tunaks1 said that.

So I see 9 incompetent people commenting above me.

jneul5006d ago

lol your brain can't keep up with those awesome screenshots!! your brain has lag lol

jneul5005d ago

what part of beta do you not understand??

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hiredhelp5007d ago

to me it seems as responsive and fluid as the socom showed. thoe we dont see a great deal of the player and the move together with the screen. but from what i can make out.it seems fine.

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belal5006d ago

seing lag from a picture is new to me!

Raider695006d ago (Edited 5006d ago )

And the winner is?Put it simply 20ms of input lag on the MOVE plus the input lag of your HDTV ( new sony HDTVS are over 30ms )plus your internet connection speed!And the winner is still Dualshock 3!

IRetrouk5006d ago

i agree nothing will beat the controller, but at least we have a second option that you know, works.

USEYOURFIST5006d ago

because the ds3 aint affected by tv input lag or internet connection speed only the move is.

Elite_7375006d ago (Edited 5006d ago )

ALL things displaying on the TV is effected by TV delay. Like i said in my other comment, the dualshock has a latency of 16ms, while the MOVE has 22ms. Thats a 6ms difference, WELL under one frame. The only delay you see are basically the rendering and display delay.

RANDOM TRIVIA ABOUT FRAMERATE:
For a game to be 60 fps, each frame has to rendered within about 16ms. For a game to be 30fps, each frame has to be rendered within about 32ms.

Biggest5006d ago

Seriously, people. LERN 2 REED /S!! USEYOURFIST is being sarcastic. It's the obvious kind that should be able to slap you in the face and make you a sandwich.

Elite_7375006d ago

The Dualshock has a 16ms input lag, the difference between the move and the dualshock is inconceivable.

The only reason you can physically see the delay on the move is because its a 1 to 1 representation of your actions on the screan, while on the dualshock, you just press a button or tilt an analogue stick. In the end of the day, it comes down to the display delay and the rendering delay that makes the difference. Look at killzone 2, that had a HUUUUGE rendering delay. The controls felt SO laggy, while Call of Duty has a quick feel.

Qui-Gon Jim5006d ago

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

The fastest games have latency of 67ms. 6ms added to that due the Move latency over the dualshock is pretty insignificant.

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Air Conflicts: Secret Wars - PlayStation Move's Best Kept Secret

Air Conflicts: Secret Wars debuted in 2011, and later updated for modern consoles. However, it's the PlayStation 3 edition that stands out.

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Why the PlayStation Move Failed

Sony's PlayStation Move may not have been able to contend with Nintendo's Wii, but it paved the way for PlayStation VR's success story.

SullysCigar972d ago

I use them most days and have for years 🤷🏻‍♂️

They're definitely way past a needed update, but I've got a tonne of fun out of them, so they haven't failed me.

bouzebbal972d ago

The best motion control platform it's so intuitive.. Died due to lack of support from Sony.. It had some amazing games

thorstein972d ago

They are used constantly for PSVR games. So, no they haven't failed. Neither has PSVR (or VR in general.)

Bigman4k972d ago (Edited 972d ago )

The article was talking about why it ps move failed before psvr came along

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH972d ago

It failed because it sucked plain and simple.

LOGICWINS972d ago

I feel that's a bit harsh. To this day, playing Killzone 3's campaign with PS Move/Sharpshooter gun combo is the most fun/immersive experience I've ever had with an FPS.

I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be, but it didn't "suck".

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH972d ago

It most definitely sucked. You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible. The entire motion control fad was a waste of resources and time. Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it...

Minute Man 721972d ago

@SPEAK

The Move was better that the Wii mote. If the Wii was anywhere accurate as the Move was you could say the Wii was better. Sure it sold boatloads but was it really played consistently??

yeahokwhatever972d ago

I played it in 3D with the move gun on a 100 inch projector and it BLEW MY MIND. I was exhausted, but i finished the campaign standing there.

SullysCigar972d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming"

Just no. Games release most weeks (for years now) that support Move controllers. Some ONLY use Move controllers.

Look, I get you're not a fan, but if you're going to rant, at least inform yourself in advance.

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LordoftheCritics972d ago

I would say both Move and Kinect weren't supported properly.

Sony and MS abandoned what could have been amazing.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH972d ago

Kinect sucked too. I would say Kinect may have been cool had it worked as intended but it was ahead of it's time. Both Kinect and Move are gimmicks nothing more. I honestly don't see why Sony still implements "motion controls" recent controllers. Who really uses that crap? And to play what?

Profchaos972d ago

I so t think Sony abandoned the move it's technically repurposed and still supported on the ps5 just for VR

RedDevils972d ago

Kinect should be kept as media interactive features.

LordoftheCritics972d ago (Edited 972d ago )

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH
Again if it was supported right.

Where even a fast click of my fingers could get an immediate in game response.

It feels trash because we have been shown or lived with bad versions of gesture based tech. Think Minority Report fast. That could be something.

''You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible.''

No one is acting like it was special, I said it could be amazing.

''I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be''

Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game and then we can discuss profits.

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SPEAKxTHExTRUTH972d ago

I don't deal in "what if". It wasn't supported right and even if it was it was still a gimmick.

thorstein972d ago

"Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game"

You just described every AAA PSVR game. And even the indies have incredible integration. No Man's Sky VR is insanely good.

Silly gameAr972d ago

And, you can act like it was horrible, but I had a blast with my Move. I had the whole collection of House of the Dead, Dead Space Extraction, and RE Darkside Cronicles, The Fight, and Socom 4, and I would play the hell out of those games I even beat a playthrough of the Resistance 3 campaign with the Move. Getting drunk and playing with friends was a freaking blast.

You can pretend that you had a move and played it all you want SPeak the Truth, but it was accurate, and usually on point. I hate when people act like they've played something just to trash it, when they really just have a vendetta, and think the Move is easy prey for your hate.

Minute Man 721972d ago

Wait you can play Dead Space with the Move?? I need it

Orchard972d ago

“You can pretend that you had a move”

I love this crazy idea that if someone has something bad to say about hardware/software - they must be lying about owning it and clearly do not own it!

Because all hardware and software has a 100% approval rating from all purchasers…

P_Bomb972d ago (Edited 972d ago )

Shoot I forgot about Dead Space Extraction and Umbrella Chronicles. Had those too. Still do (digital).

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH972d ago

I have a vendetta against Move? Lmao that's the most ridiculous comment I've read today. I didn't buy it because like I said motion controls are gimmicks. I had a Wii and it was decent enough but a gimmick although successful. I had a Kinect and it too was trash. Don't act as if you know what I have and haven't owned. Move was nothing more than a Wiimote ripoff

yeahokwhatever972d ago

SO MANY really great experiences for the Move. The Fight was excellent!

Silly gameAr972d ago (Edited 972d ago )

@Minute Man

There was a game called Dead Space Extraction that you could play the Move with.

@Orchard. Please don't reply to me, because every time I say something to you, I magically end up restricted. So, just ignore me like I ignore you, so there will be no hurt feelings, please.

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Vanfernal972d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it..."

That is demostrably false.... Most VR games have motion controls and the PSVR uses the Move controllers.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH972d ago (Edited 972d ago )

VR games have a controller most of the time not some magic wand. And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect. I'm not a fan of VR either. A controller and a couch is all I need for my gaming needs.

Vanfernal972d ago

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH

"And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect."

PSVR LITERALLY uses the Move controllers. Now it's just obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. You're saying Move failed and nobody uses it anymore when it's an integral part of PSVR and is still being used in 2021.

ScootaKuH972d ago

It didn't suck. It worked but the games just weren't there, that's why it failed.

Father__Merrin972d ago

The move was excellent it was 1 to 1 precise time crisis was a joy to play aswell as sports champions it didn't hit mainstream as it was an addon unlike Nintendo wiimote

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Godmars290972d ago

Lack of games that proved the concept that 3rd parties could then copy en masse?

Silly Mammo971d ago

I wish that someone would have made a proper boxing game. I still have a blast with the Sports Champions boxing, but to have a boxing game that was more in-depth would have been awesome.

Dario_DC971d ago

Try Creed for PSVR, it's brilliant

OMGitzThatGuy972d ago

Because it was a uninspired ripoff of the Wii controller without the Nintendo library to back it and didn't try to put any real effort into development such as getting their top developers to make games for it and instead gave tech demos disguised as games to their least talented developers so the best can focus on single player only games.

Ryushaa972d ago

Except the Move was an idea roughly implemented in the PS2. Yes, I'm serious.
Just search on youtube: PlayStation 2 - Motion Controller (2004)

Nonetheless, just like the whole Wii, it was more of a gimmick than a proper input evolution in games.

jukins972d ago

Exactly. Its funny time and time again sony is the first innovate. Often at its own peril. Like your example the move started on ps2 taken advantage of by nintendo. Sony buys gakai for game streaming only for other companies to overtake them.

Profchaos972d ago

Are you talking about the gametrak on os2 which used strings to track your hand position I used to have this and a gold game it was awesome but the game itself sucked if it had integration with tiger woods or something it would be way better the tracking was excellent even back then as it wasn't using guesswork.
However the game was very forgiving and no way to turn it harder and no licensed players or courses hurt it.

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yeahokwhatever972d ago

99% of the Wii's games were "shovelware", in fact, I think thats what started that phrase..

EvertonFC972d ago

Socom, killzone, resistance and tiger wood 14 were great with the move but agree lacked more games.

yeahokwhatever972d ago

There were plenty of games and I'm glad that not every game became a Move game.

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These PS3 Games are Going to get Really Expensive

Could you get rich by investing in PS3 games? Almost definitely not. Can you make a few bucks by flipping PS3 games over the years? Yeah, sure! It wouldn’t even be that difficult. But let’s face it: Once these games are in your collection, you’re probably keeping them forever.

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CDbiggen975d ago

There's a reason I didn't buy most of these when they came out.

MadLad975d ago

After a game's multiple generations old, and can't be had new at a reasonable price, that's when I see nothing wrong with emulation.

What's the point of paying someone scalper prices when the dev/publisher isn't even benefiting from it?

mkis007974d ago

Emulation doesn't stop a games physical box from becoming collectible.

Knightofelemia975d ago

I paid $30 for SH Downpour on PS3 now it's around $70-$85 Canadian Lolipop Chainsaw I paid $15 and it has really gone up in price. I wonder if Transformers War and Fall of Cybertron will go up in price two of the best Transformers games every made.

neutralgamer1992975d ago

In 5 years time all those games will be worth at least $150 to $200 that you listed

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neutralgamer1992975d ago

Ever since Sony announced that they would shut down PS3 store these prices have skyrocketed and even though Sony backtracked now most gamers realize that it's a matter of time before the PlayStation 3 store is shut down. If you want these games get them while you can even if digital because once that story shut down the physical prices will just go crazy high we saw that already

And many of these games did not sell like crazy amounts so they are limited number of copies available for sale at any given time

MadLad975d ago

Folklore is a game I've always really wanted to play, but I got a PS3 late in the generation, and it was already really expensive to find, being it didn't exactly sell well, therefore was already kind of a collector's item.

Kept hoping I'd find a cheap copy randomly at stores and flea markets, but never happened.

franwex974d ago

I got mine for $5 at Walmart like 10 years ago. I have yet to play it.

neutralgamer1992974d ago

It was available at GameStop for a while for under $20. Don't know har happened but GameStop started to sell their used games based on ebay prices it seems

You can still find it for around $60-70 and which in my opinion is a good price for a game that will be worth double if not triple that in next 5 years

Mr Logic974d ago

Have you considered modding your PS3? Neither Sony or the dev would be getting money from that Folklore purchase. Kind of a victimless crime at that point.

MadLad974d ago (Edited 974d ago )

@neutral

Honestly, I just want to actually give the experience a try. I'm not someone who would buy it at a premium just to potentially rip someone off down the road.
I mean, there are collectors out there and if paying a couple hundred dollars is worth it to them then more power to them, but I'm not one to be on either end of that exchange.

I know it's taboo, but I might dig in and see the state of PS3 emulation on PC. I have a good PC, so it might be able to power through the often times poor performance, being PS3 is known to be hard to emulate.

I've never emulated anything past the PS2/Dreamcast but, as I said in my first post, I don't see anything wrong with emulation if the game you want to play can only be had used, with no money going to the creators.

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