IGN Reviews Madden NFL 08' for the Playstation 3

The Madden franchise is one of the longest-running in videogame history. It began around the same time as The Simpsons (and looked just about as ugly at that point) and has since grown to become a national phenomenon. Like anything that manages to last nearly two decades, Madden has gained a near equal number of ardent fans and passionate detractors. No matter what developer Tiburon does with its football title, the fans will always support it and the haters will always cry foul. Fortunately for those who love Madden, the gang at Tiburon finally got its next-gen act together and created the best version of its seminal football series since Madden NFL 2005. In fact, Madden 08 feels in many ways a throwback to 2005. That's a good thing. Madden 05 rocked.

Hit the jump for more...

[TheExecutive]

a whole point due to framerate issues? ouch! Sorry to say this but EA shouldnt have rushed out the ps3 version if it was this big of a deal. They did it so they could release it on the 14th instead of a later date. It kinda looks like they screwed ps3 owners this year, since i dont have a 360 anymore looks like im not gonna support a crappier version.

[Maddens Raiders]

I really feel castrated by EA since they brought out this short-bus version of the game for the PS3. Look like my NFL Sunday ticket and College Gameplan subsriptions are getting extra - heavy useage this year. I see people qeueing around town for it, but I won't be one of them. First time I'm doing this w/ Madden -- EVER.

ESPN is hyping the 360 version right now like it's the last game on planet earth. Go figure. I'm not bitter with the 360 version at all...the framerate issue is not the only thing thats bothering me. If all I wanted were new animations on the 2008 version and some new "stick techniques" then wth did I buy a nex-gen system. I had shytloads of fun with Madden on the PS2 so it's not all about graphics.

I was going to write a whole bunch of other crap, but it's just as well. Bottom line...I'm sitting this one out.

Since I am a Football fan to the core. I have to stick a jab in there for the hell of it at my rivals...he, he....

Looks like with all of the people lining up for Madden there will be a lot of 360's undergoing a virtual stress test...I hope the old man can take it out there!!!...the gridiron's HOTTTT BOYYY [[[[Blue 22, Blue 22, Red 80, Red 80....setttt..... Huttt, Huttt, Huttt!!!]]]]

[sticky doja]

Killer pic man. UT for the national championship! Colt McCoy for heisman!

[InMyOpinion]

That was a lot of excuses in one comment, Maddens. I hope you convinced yourself. I'm going with the better version for this one. Not a hard choice really. The game looks excellent and has gotten very high reviews.

[bluebrad1974]

The Cell processor is simply not as good at running games as the 360's cpu. It should be pretty obvious to everyone by now.

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

Sure- don't support one of the PS3's biggest titles.

I sure hope not all PS3 owners are doing the same, for Sony's sake.

[Dareaver1]

if you don't believe, here's why.... and if you disagree, please support your disagree with a valid REBUTTAL.

since you want to talk about speed here is info on the daughter di on the 360 which helps with rendering...

In order for this to be possible developers would need to setup their rendering engine to take advantage of both the EDRAM and the available onboard 3D logic. If anyone is confused why the 32GB/s is being multiplied by 8 its because once data travels over the 32GB/s bus it is able to be processed 8 times by the EDRAM logic to the EDRAM memory at a rate of 256GB/s so for every 32GB/s you send over 256GB/s gets processed. This results in RSX being at a bandwidth disadvantage in comparison to Xenos. Needless to say the 360 not only has an overabundance of video memory bandwidth, but it also has amazing memory saving features. For example to get 720P with 4XFSAA on traditional architecture would require 28MB worth of memory. On the 360 only 16MB is required. There are also features in the 360's Direct3D API where developers are able to fit 2 128x128 textures into the same space required for one, for example. So even with all the memory and all the memory bandwidth, they are still very mindful of how it’s used.

With the capability to fetch from anywhere in memory, perform arbitrary ALU operations and write the results back to memory, in conjunction with the raw floating point performance of the large shader ALU array, the MEMEXPORT facility does have the capability to achieve a wide range of fairly complex and general purpose operations; basically any operation that can be mapped to a wide SIMD array can be fairly efficiently achieved and in comparison to previous graphics pipelines it is achieved in fewer cycles and with lower latencies. For instance, this is probably the first time that general purpose physics calculation would be achievable, with a reasonable degree of success, on a graphics processor and is a big step towards the graphics processor becoming much more like a vector co-processor to the CPU.

here's a tidbit about why the 360 would be better at AI...

The 360 CPU however, due to its 3 symmetric General Purpose Cores, is not only much easier to program for than the cell, but having 3 PPE capable of handling things such as AI also means the 360’s CPU will be the better of the 2 CPUs when it comes to AI code. Either way we can look forward to great things from both CPUs in the future.

Here's the bit about memory useage and advantages...

It’s highly doubtful that Blu-Ray will lead to better graphics because the PS3, due to split memory pools containing 256MB worth of GDDR3 memory and 256MB worth of XDR memory can at best dedicate 256MB worth of ram to textures at any given moment whereas the 360 uses unified memory for a total of 512MB. That alone is a major limiting factor to Blu-Ray’s space advantage.
There are however methods to gain use of more ram as from e-mail exchanges with developers I found out that it’s possible for the PS3’s GPU (RSX) to texture from the XDR, but there is a penalty for texturing from the XDR ram because in order to do so it would need to travel over the cell’s FlexiO , which some developers have actually done. There is also another way of going about doing this which is by copying from the XDR to the GDDR3 memory kind of like a fast cache and just proceed to stream in the content. Even with such methods available, the Xbox 360 just has more memory to work with.

Xbox 360 has 278.4 GB/s of memory system bandwidth. The PS3 has less than one-fifth of Xbox 360's (48 GB/s) of total memory system bandwidth. When you break down the numbers, Xbox 360 has provably more performance than PS3.

Bandwidth
The PS3 has 22.4 GB/s of GDDR3 bandwidth and 25.6 GB/s of RDRAM bandwidth for a total system bandwidth of 48 GB/s.

The Xbox 360 has 22.4 GB/s of GDDR3 bandwidth and a 256 GB/s of EDRAM bandwidth for a total of 278.4 GB/s total system bandwidth.

Why does the Xbox 360 have such an extreme amount of bandwidth? Even the simplest calculations show that a large amount of bandwidth is consumed by the frame buffer. For example, with simple color rendering and Z testing at 550 MHz the frame buffer alone requires 52.8 GB/s at 8 pixels per clock. The PS3's memory bandwidth is insufficient to maintain its GPU's peak rendering speed, even without texture and vertex fetches.

The PS3 uses Z and color compression to try to compensate for the lack of memory bandwidth. The problem with Z and color compression is that the compression breaks down quickly when rendering complex next-generation 3D scenes.

HDR, alpha-blending, and anti-aliasing require even more memory bandwidth. This is why Xbox 360 has 256 GB/s bandwidth reserved just for the frame buffer. This allows the Xbox 360 GPU to do Z testing, HDR, and alpha blended color rendering with 4X MSAA at full rate and still have the entire main bus bandwidth of 22.4 GB/s left over for textures and vertices.

well i hope it helps you see where i drew my conclusion from.

[WoundedMoon]

If EA wants to produce a sub-par product for the PS3 owners, they can't keep their product, and I'll keep my money.

The PS3 is better. But, even IF the 360 was a little bit better, any non-lazy developer is going to be able to get a game running ALMOST as well on the PS3, IF the 360 is better. The fact that there is such a lag in the Madden version is a negative reflection on EA, and as stated, they'll not be receiving any of my money for this one.

Interestingly, all the PS3 titles I own are exclusives, and I still think it was worth a weeks pay.

LOL, I'll lose bubbles for this one. :D

[TheExecutive]

"For PS3 owners, this isn't as exciting. Madden 08 runs (sometimes) at 30 frames per second. It makes a huge difference, as you lose a lot of the subtleties in the animations. There are plenty of framerate hitches that will likely frustrate players. This can cause a lag in the Hit Stick sometimes. And, let's face it, no one wants to see a runningback pause for a second in mid air as the framerate stutters. You can still play and mostly enjoy Madden, but beware that on PS3 the game does not run smoothly."

That is rediculous! Its not like the ps3 is incapable of running at 60fps, there is really no excuse for this.

[TheExecutive]

"Madden NFL 08 on PS3 is no a great game. It is a shadow of its cousin on 360. Though the feature set is identical, the drop to an unstable 30fps hurts considerably. The visuals and the gameplay suffer. If you are a real Madden nut and think you can fight through the framerate issues, Madden is an overall good game. It just doesn't run very well. If you only own a PS3 and live for Sundays, then there really is no other choice than to give Madden 08 a shot."

[Loudninja]

EA has no excuse for this at all.I mean they cold have made the 30 FPS stable,but they did not even do that.

[SKullDugger]

its not EA's fault that the PS3 is so hard to program for and the CELL just was not made for running games, U need to talk to SONY about this one its their system not EA's!!!!

[WoundedMoon]

In the meantime you can call Bungie and complain about your 360 that's now being used as a night-light, because it's incapable of doing anything besides producing a red ring of light.

If Sony is responsible for the slow framerate in Madden, then Bungie is responsible for the 360's high failure rate.

If the system that is easier to program for is always the better, then I argue that my 15 year old computer running DOS text based games is far superior to your XBox 360, due to the ease of programming. Nobody want to go though the trouble to make these "graphics" you feel so strongly about; you watch, those graphics will pass like every other fad in the industry has!

[skynidas]

wow i expect that not all the EA games coming this year have the same problem of this one for example:
*FIFA 08.
*Army of Two.
*Need for Speed.

[Bloodmask]

So many developers still finding it hard to code games on to the PS3 with a average 60 frame rate per second. EA talks about the Army of Two displaying on the PS3 at 30fps, while the 360 at 60 fps.
An EA developer has called in to let us know that he believes the Xbox 360 will triumph over the PS3 due to its better performance and more rounded support. These claims come on the revelation that development of Army of Two on the Xbox 360 manages to yield a maximum of 60fps while the PS3 version struggles to reach 30fps currently. Army of Two is expected to hit retail shelves during November.

[TheExecutive]

Well I see what he is saying about the 360 being easy to develop for and they definitely give developers more support. However, as with the ps2 (if you remember correctly) developers said the same thing about the dreamcast and how easy that was to develop for and how HARD the ps2 was to develop for.

Now I know this is different generations with different players, but the 360 will never outsell the ps brand this generation. there are three simple and glaring reasons for this:

1. MS has done nothing to take the user base away from Sony and the playstation brand. they are about the same for what they did with the first xbox. They have about 10 million consoles out there in almost two years... thats not great by anyones standards. thats about 20 million in four years. Saying this we see, if these selling trends continue, that MS has done nothing to rob sony of its user base. I think that this gen has started a little early. We see this because of the lack of people moving over from last gen (roughly 150 million). When they finally decide to do so (late next year) what console will they buy? One who has a life span of about another year maybe two or one that just taking off? They will stick with the ps brand for the same reasons they chose the ps1 and ps2... the diversity of games and the knowledge that sony will back their console.

2. This brings me to my next point. The 360 (as we know it, they could always add things to the 360, however at some point its just a new console) will have a shelf life of a little over 4 years. This short life alone will make it sell less than the ps3.

3. MS doesnt have worldwide support. Although they do have strong support in the states they lack sells in the rest of the world. FOr this reason they will never sell as many consoles as sony.

SO you see EA developers can say whatever they want, because in the end the ps brand will beat out the 360 in sells and then they will praise and praise the sony brand for making them rich.

Im not sure what this has to do with the madden game but i thought that I should say this in response to your post.

I do think however that the 360 as of right now is the superior console... but by this time next year (right in time for last gen casual users to flood over) the ps3 will have its heavy hitters out and in full force.

[Clinton514]

You should be a defense lawyer. That is if you're educated enough.

[The Dude]

IGN Madden 08 Review Scores
360 8.7
ps3 7.7

I'll be picking up the 360 version : )

[The Dude]

Gamespot and IGN agree 360 version out does the ps3.

[the worst]

hey i dont no what copy they played
my sh!t runs smooth
no lag what so ever
my sh!t dont pause on the
running back for a second

[sticky doja]

How did you get the game an hour before it was released, and play it for a long enough period of time to figure out that your game doesnt lag. I wanna shop for my games where you get yours so I can get my games the day before they come out as well. [Sarcasm]

You don't have to lie to kick it bro.

[sajj316]

thats all I got to say about that. Gamers, please for Bowser's sake ... boycott this crap!!!

[sticky doja]

and you want me to boycott it? No thanks.

[reaperxciv]

series instead

[Marty8370]

American Footie sucks anyhow, whether on PS3,360 or Wii.

[chasegamez]

good!!!!!!!!!!

[game-over]

the superbowl is the most watched telecast

[Funky Town_TX]

TV rating. World Cup baby.

[Maddens Raiders]

You're not from here. Please leave. (((now)))

[sticky doja]

If funky town was from texas he would get his arss whooped for saying something so ignorant. Unless your a border jumper like half my neigbors.

[gta_cb]

football (soccer) is great, not saying its better or worse then american football but its still great, and for the person saying for the other one to leave ((now)) a huge amount of people on this website are not from the USA so make us leave lol.

[VaeVictus]

Soccor sucks ass. Real men play football. Ask David Beckham.

[Skizelli]

And 28 people think you suck. Different culture, different games. You'd have to be American to really love American football, just as us Americans would have to be European to love rugby. I won't be retarded like you and say rugby sucks, but it certainly is weird to me, just as American football is probably weird to you. Don't be ignorant.

[TheFamilyGuy]

On Metacritic.com (a better version of gamerankings),

PS3 Madden = 82
360 Madden = 89

Though some people might not want to admit it, Madden games are system sellers, and if the 360 version is the better of the two, people are going to get 360s for madden rather than PS3s.

[DarkArcani]

most people have in their mind which console they are going to buy from the get go. Therefore, madden will move systems, but for both consoles. Anyone who goes on these sites has their mind made up, and I highly doubt anyone of us would switch systems for the better madden game.
Also, a lot people don't look at reviews, which is the reason why crappy movie games get bought. (not saying madden is crappy).

[Ice]

also most people whether they we online viewer want to admit it or not don't check reviews. Most people play games at friends houses and decide what they want. We online faithful are the minorities nowadays in the gaming world. Just look at the Wii and it's casual following. I owned all 3 consoles at one point and sold my 360 because I thought that its future potential with games was sad (don't like halo 3 and bioshock will come to ps3 whether anyone wants to admit it or not, but i wish i could still have mass effect). Anyways everyone knows whether or not they want to admit it that the ps3 is more powerful. Maybe not as powerful as Sony wants people to believe, but I think at least as more powerful as xbox was as ps2 and considering the minute lead 360 has on ps3 I don't think it should keep it past 9/08. Wii on the other hand is a gimmick console. Companies can't release their "big guns" on it because as everyone knows only Nintendo games sell well. In the end I think Sony will beat Nintendo, but not by much and Microsoft will stick in the console war, but change their strategy drastically. Agree or Disagree, I don't care, but this is my opinion.

[DarkArcani]

I agree totally. Plus most analysts say that the wii will come out with HD in two years or so, personally that would piss me off if I just bough it.
And about PS3 so called "power." I think it is like a Porsche GT3.
Porsche makes the car flawless and powerful. They squeeze so much hp out of that naturally aspirated 3.6l six cylinder. Costumers (developers) decide whether they are going to just drive it around the city or whether they are going to take it to the track and use all the potential the car has. It's not easy to go to the track to win races, but if you put enough time and effort into it, you get the checkered flag.

[gta_cb]

i do agree, but remember that alot of the football fans wont bother finding the ratings, and so if they own just one of the systems they will still buy it for that rather then buying a brand new system for a game. but yeh if they have both and know one has been given a better score will prob get it (the better one)

[Funky Town_TX]

The PS3 version ran at 60 and the 360 ran at 30 what would be said. The cell and Br are the reason the PS3 version is the best. Could it be that EA has a better handle on the 360 hardware due to the fact that this is their 3rd game on the system. Sounds like the PS2 Madden over the xbox1 Madden. EA gave all the love to the PS2. Madden 07 on PS3 had bad sales due to the late release date. EA should have delayed the game or not even released it on the PS3. I bet there are millions of Madden fans that don't care about framerates that will get the game. You could boycott EA if you want to. But hay Madden is a big game kinda like GTA, casual gamers love it.

[rayzorn]

i have a ps3, and i hate to see it's version of madden worse then the 360's. But to the average person they will have no clue to how many framrates one version has compared to the next. They will think they are the same. so i dont see it really hurting sony's console sales. the only one it will hurt will be EA next year when they release the next madden. I love madden but EA has always been a very lazy company.

[Double-Edged]

Closing Comments
Madden NFL 08 on PS3 is no a great game. It is a shadow of its cousin on 360. Though the feature set is identical, the drop to an unstable 30fps hurts considerably. The visuals and the gameplay suffer. If you are a real Madden nut and think you can fight through the framerate issues, Madden is an overall good game. It just doesn't run very well. If you only own a PS3 and live for Sundays, then there really is no other choice than to give Madden 08 a shot.

[BLACKJACK VII]

Man... Those closing comments are pretty Harsh !

"It is a shadow of its cousin on 360...the drop to an unstable 30fps hurts considerably. The visuals and the gameplay suffer... It just doesn't run very well."

LOL !!! Hey Nasim & Bill Gates, YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL ???

[Danega_Sciphor]

the ps3 version (probaly doesnt as usual) but if it does suck isnt the lack of ps3 (because has the most power of all), its EA, they make crappy game after another xbots know. XBOTS talks about how multiplatform games suck on ps3, they are better on ps3. FEAR, as usual on 360 everything is so f*cking hazey. There was video i saw of the 360 counterpart with a concrete wall, and it was SHINY on 360, thats not good graphics. The PS3 gives REAL textures. It seems like xbots and gamesites dont know the difference between realism and an illusion. So ill play the PS3 version and so how much better it is on PS3 (ALOT).

[Double-Edged]

you need a tissue?

[InMyOpinion]

If the PS3 has more power than the 360, how come it has no games to prove it? It's all empty talk about specs here and there and blablabla.

"If you look at it this way the PS3 has a lot more power..blabla floating memory...blabla developers need to learn how to utilize the cell..blablabla."

Show me the games to prove it! What use is a console if the games can't utilize it's power?

"Well, my car actually has 550 bhp, but it has'nt learned how to utilize more than 300 of them yet..."

Go stand in the corner, Iron baby!

[The Real Joker]

What? Are you fu@king stupid?

[Double-Edged]

PS3 sucks.

[MikeGdaGod]

y'all got somethin in common

[Odion]

lol i love that someone called it the lag box 360 when it runs twice as fast

[fopums]

world cup > superbowl

the whole planet watches the world cup, only America watchs the superbowl

edit: go ahead and hit disagree, its still a fact, sorry if it sounds like Im raining on your parade

[BLACKJACK VII]

Madden Franchise = Most Popular Sports Game Ever.

[FreedomReign]

Runs @ 60 fps on 360 and 30 fps on PS3. So what's left cricket?

[ParaDise_LosT]

coup de grâce

LAY THIS TO REST

[djt23]

i am sorry but it is no excuse to put it in 30fps

[JokesOnYou]

not to worry I'll help them out by quoting you and IGN one more time

"It is a shadow of its cousin on 360...the drop to an unstable 30fps hurts considerably. The visuals and the gameplay suffer... It just doesn't run very well."

LOL !!! Hey Nasim & Bill Gates, YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL ???

add mercernary, DJ, bathy, larry07 (oh nasim and larry are the same guy) Loren oh well you know the usual sony kids always flaming the 360 and talkin how superior poo-ray is, well keep laughing sony kids while 360 keeps destroying poo-ray3 in the real world. ha ha this is just too funny.= blame sony

JOY

[harpua]

.....

[genericname]

bwaaaaaaaaaahh....a little over the line, but funny as sheet.

[gamehendge]

"oh i finally figured out your avatar, its a pic of you after suckin all that M$ cack.....you might want to wipe all that spooge off"

LOL

[reaperxciv]

yeah

[harpua]

if other devs can do 60fps in 1080p on the PS3, what is EAs problem?

[JokesOnYou]

other dev's like factor 5 who have been working on Lair forever with a huge budget only to delay it after a bad review which claim it had framerate issues dipping to like 20fps at times? ha ha sony kids face it your beloved ps3 is not optimal for gaming, not saying ps3 isnt capable but at what cost must dev's sacrifice to make games perform equal to 360, 2+ yrs and 30 mil, ha ha thats going to be very very rare that devs take that risk for every game on poo-ray3. blame sony=

JOY

[InMyOpinion]

Are there any 60fps games at all on the PS3?

[Testo]

"Though some people might not want to admit it, Madden games are system sellers, and if the 360 version is the better of the two, people are going to get 360s for madden rather than PS3s. "

This will move systems in the US... Probably not anywhere else.

WTF.. WHY IS IT CALLED FOOTBALL ANYWAYS!?!?!.... Sorry it just doesn't make any sense.

[Syko]

Same reason we decided to drive on the other side of the road. Just to piss you guys off. =P

[ElementX]

MS and EA should have a new marketing campaign, "Runs better on 360"

[Danega_Sciphor]

ha you guys contradict yourselves every day, xbots even said EA, xD you guys crack me up, then watch when they get ports after ps3, its gonna look like an n64 game and they'll say" ps3 has no surround sound"?? I can hear it now, xbots post stuff thats so dellusional and random, im crackin up writing this X(((((((D, OMG
Dudes play your madden at 60fps with hazey graphics while i play real an gritty football, the whole FPS is thrown out of proportion, RFOM is the pwnage of FPS till HAZE and its locked at 30FPS, no problams
Watch when the 360 blows up in your face because it tries to cover up the graphics woth the haze effect, 360 are so horrible, EVERY SINGLE GAME USES HAZE EFFECT, thats when you know 360 games suck
Hey double edge i know you saw this post do you need a life, yes you do, get a ps3 and youll have one, burned , XD
look at the xbots agree's, they actually waste time, SONY SOLDIERS know that the only people that put agree's on your post is POG's army of xbots ( 5 ppl), dont waste your time tryin to feel special, just join with sony and everything will be PERFECT AT PWNAGE

[InMyOpinion]

Go go gadget - Retarded fanboy in complete denial!

[reaperxciv]

get a life, bl00dcl0t

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

I'm actually laughing right now.

It's because your comments are just about as ridiculous as Frisky Dingo. I don't know whether to take you seriously or just laugh.

Too bad everything you said was bull.

[dburrell]

Wait util these games are released and watch the average review complain of poor ai and overall gameplay

[gnothe1]

he makes it sound like he already has madden 08. his post was an hour ago an madden dont offically go onsale to the public til midnight, so what madden are you playing!!

8 - they must have been playing the 360 ver
hey i dont no what copy they played
my sh!t runs smooth
no lag what so ever
my sh!t dont pause on the
running back for a second

[PS360PCROCKS]

Damn...ouch that hurts. A whole point less? geesh

[The Dude]

Wow

[carlman23]

Xbox 360 aside, why are you putting up with this kind of stuff? You're paying a premium price for an inferior experience! Write letters to EA asking them why they couldn't get it up to 60 fps, but don't forget to write letters to Sony asking why they didn't help out with development support. Finally, stop calling EA lazy; they've got nothing against the PS3, but they're not going to spend more time and money developing a game for hardware with a smaller install base. If PS3 takes more time to code for, that's a Sony problem, not EAs.

[DarkArcani]

Most of us didn't buy a ps3 for madden. I don't think you bought your 360 for madden either. Is a bummer that ps3 can't run smoother, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. And its not like EA wont make another one next year.

[carlman23]

But my concern is why PS3 owners are defending Madden on PS3, not why they're defending the PS3 itself.

[DarkArcani]

For some reason it hurts their dumb retarded ego.
We all know if we are going to buy it or not, and that this review doesn't really matter when it comes down to it. We just need to know if it's good or not... That's what matters. It is a good game, and everyone is going to get the same enjoyment out of it when playing with a buddy who doesn't have next gen. Cause all you will hear him say is, this is awesome.

[Fighter]

I would've preferred a delay instead of getting the gimped version. 30fps more is a big deal when displayed on HDTV. I will boycott the game this year or get the PS2 version from the Chinese mall near my place (wink,wink) to teach EA Sports a lesson.

EA favored one console (360) rather than please their fans on another. If they want our support they got to earn it. Nascar 08 was a huge letdown. Madden is already a letdown to me. I wonder how NHL 08 and FIFA 08 will fare. My gut tells me that it will follow the tradition of Madden 08 and give PS3 the krappy, ported versions. I hope, for the sake of gaming, that I'm wrong.

Has there been any explanations from EA as to why the PS3 runs at 30fps rather than 60fps? Is it possible to go beyond 60fps on both consoles?

[Clinton514]

Phil Harrison mentioned that in one of his interviews. He also reiterated that he wasn't trying to disrespect EA in anyway...he was just pointing out that it could be done.

[airforcex]

There is a difference between theorical power and reality. In paper, the ps3 is better. In reality the 360 is better( I think 360 games have outperformed ps3 at a margin of 10:1). This is not the DEVELOPERS FAULT. This is the system designer's fault; assuming that a company will spend more time on your console is pure arrogance. One of the key advantages of the PS1 versus Saturn was ease of development. The cell is cool; no doubt. But the 360 looks better. Stop whining. At least you get Blu-Ray (which is cool).

[airforcex]

Developers aren't in the market to decipher new consoles. They want to make money. THIS is bussiness!

[NextGen24Gamer]

There were a couple people in line Pre ordering Madden and purchasing 360's. One was getting the Premium and the other getting the Elite. They were super excited. I asked them what console are they coming from. The both said in Unison..."Ps2". They both had never got an xbox product before and they both made the jump from Ps2. This is a common trend folks. Wheither Sony fans want to admitt it or not. With the price of the 360 being 350....its an easier jump for ps2 gamers who have been waiting on the sidelines. And Madden is HUGE to millions of gamers. The word on the street is spreading. Gamers are understanding that the Games they want look and run better on the 360.

I asked both of them if they plan on getting a Ps3. One said heck no...and the other said they were until they heard that Devil May Cry was coming to the 360 too.

Believe it or not....Microsoft is expanding its 360 core base due to the constant release of superior games and the high price of the Ps3. Both factors are steering gamers one by one from the Ps3 to the 360. And its amazing when I look at amazon and xbox 360 is all over the top 25. Two consoles in the top 12 and many games in the top 10. Then you have the HD dvd add on jumping in the top 20 along with the core.

So you have the Premium with HDMI in the top 10.
The Elite right there with it.
The premium without hdmi and the core.

I wonder if you combine all 4 xbox 360 console sales if its actually Number 1 on Amazon? The clearence priced ps3 is gradually dropping.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/be...

[airforcex]

Mommy, mommy,
EA doesn't like PS3.

Dude, lazy is SONY for not helping EA. For being arrogant. This is SONY's problem, not EA's. By this logic, Ubisoft is also lazy. This has nothing to do with SONY's choice? As I said, you do have Blu-Ray. Stop crying!

[reaperxciv]

sony fanboys just want to justify all that money they spent on the ps3, they could have gotten a wii or 360 instead and saved up for 2009...coz 2009 is probably the sweetspot for buying a ps3, it'll be dirt cheap by the rate it is going

[Bloodmask]

That is because Sony Fanboys don't base things off of reason or past experiences. Like prior PS3 games having poor frame rates or delays up to a year.

They think "no matter what" that the PS3 is superior. It's kind of funny bc I have all next gen systems but I often bash the PS3 bc Sonyboys get so defensive. Look on my profile under games in my collection. It is rather old bc I made it months ago but still.

They act on pure emotion, all facts and reasoning are thrown out the window. Usually when you bring up a valid comment they "act out" as a child does and resort to name calling.

Their only method of defense is to disagree.

Welcome to N4G.

[carlman23]

I believe that in hindsight, my question was rather rhetorical. Obviously the PS3 is a huge investment (trust me, I know from experience). From the perspective of a lot of gamers, they've plopped down the cash and they just want the thing to succeed. I don't blame them, the PS2 was 'teh awesome'. That being said however, I feel like Sony's made one terrible decision after another with this thing, and the time to fess up and fix the problems is upon us. Pony up or see your system slip into a comfortable 3rd place.

Oh, did anyone listen to the new EGM Live podcast in which yet another developer, Oddworld's Lorne Lanning, trashes Sony for their design of the PS3?

http://download.gamevideos....

Are ALL of these developers simply lazy? You're saying that Valve is lazy? Give me a break...

[IPlayGames]

Its a parade is the streets over 1pt. difference.

WOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOO pass me a MGD.

[BLACKJACK VII]

****************************** ****************************** *********
Gameplay on the PS3:
"In theory, this is one of the better Madden's. But the framerate issues hinder the gameplay a bit, keeping PS3 owners from experiencing all of the good things Tiburon added this year."

Cell Graphics:
"The details are good, but Madden is ugly in motion. It's optimistic to call this a game that runs at 30fps. The animations don't look that great because of the lower framerate."

Face it, the Xbox 360's superior architecture is easier to program for, it consistantly has smoother gameplay & framerates, better AI, better graphics, better textures, more memory, a much faster drive, & most importantly: superior software & more of it,... all at a better price!

Not to mention, Rumble, Achievements, online multiplayer chat, Marketplace content, tons of Free Demos, and of course, XBL. What more do you need ? Do you want a Next Gen Gaming console, or a Next Gen Movie player ???

[Double-Edged]

Poor PS3 owners.
really sucks....

i'll be playing 60 frames.

and you wont be buying madden no more becaus 360 has the best version.
Wooo hOOOoooOooooo

*i dont care what sonyfanboys say, we got the better version*

[NextGen24Gamer]

I think that it might be best if developers just stopped making bad games for the Ps3.

If you can't get your code running very well on the Ps3...just can it. Just support the 360 and force Sony to scrap the Ps3 and release a console that is actually good for games.

Game after game from EA, Ubi Soft, ect....keep showing how better the 360 is for games. Its not a mystery no more.

Its not lazy developers folks. They have a budget....and they do the best they can. But Sony fans complain so much and sony fans don't want to point the finger at SONY....Nooooo...they want to point the finger at the developers who are struggling with the Ps3's hardware.

Developers...Just stop releasing your games for the ps3....This way sony fans have nothing to complain about. Let Sony keep releasing games that get poor reviews....who you gonna blame then?

Who do you blame for Motorstorm being so short and being in 720p and the framerate being 30fps? Who do you blame?

Who do you blame for Resistence looking like Blah? Who do you blame?

I say just let Sony release games for their console so the sony fans would stop crying. Its getting old.

I was super excited to get Lair. What the heck happened? You can't get 9's, 7's, and 5's accross the board and be an amazing game at the same time. Something ain't right with that picture folks.

Could it be that the Ps3 really isn't optimal for games like Developers have been saying for a year now?

Or do you still want to defend SOny for its hardware choices?

Not me. It is what it is. I'm super curious to see how Unreal turns out and how it will compare with the 360 version that comes out later. And once again we will hear about lazy developers...WOW...

[Clinton514]

Are these two developers the only developers on the consoles?

Who are you trying to convince, us(N4G)or yourself? We don't know the future and you sure as hell don't either. Leave it at that. Keep looking at scores if that's what makes you enjoy a game. I'll be busy playing what interests me.

edit: I'll take those 3 disagrees that you and your multiple accounts are responsible for as a, "no comment". Keep skating around real debates and delude yourself into believing that your opinion will sell consoles.

[StrboyM]

boycott it....teach em a lesson.....do not buy this game. wait one year they will be forced to make a better up to par version...we pay more for better..dont accept anything less

[BLACKJACK VII]

Boycott ? That would result in even lower sales for the PS3 version that already has a huge install gap... equaling less money for EA via the PS3 format... & that's gonna motivate them to spend even *more money* next year to develop for the PS3 ???
Good Luck with that !

[NextGen24Gamer]

And yes I have every game for both consoles. I have them hooked up to my 61 inch samsung DLP 1080p TV both via hdmi. I'm sorry I thought you knew this. I'm a Game hobbyiest. And every single 3rd party game looks and plays better on the 360. Including Oblivion with the patch that the 360 recieved after the ps3's release.

But back on topic with Madden. My good friend is a die hard Sony fan and this was the last straw for him. He told me he is trading in his Ps3 and buying the Elite/HD dvd package for 600 dollars. You get the hD version of 300, King Kong, and 5 other titles of your choice.

But more importantly....He loves his Madden. Now he will be able to enjoy it in its full glory on the 360.

Developers just need to stop supporting both the ps3 and the 360. Just release the superior version on the 360 and force sony to make a better console next time.

[Fighter]

I agree that developers need to stick to one console or have two completely different teams working on both the 360 and the PS3 separately pending that those teams know what they're doing and how to work both consoles full potential.

Madden 08 can only be made by EA because they were losing to 2K sports every year and forked over a lot of cash to the NFL to get exclusive rights. Sony or 2K sports can not make another NFL related game so everyone is stuck with EA's version.

EA is at fault, not Sony, because EA had a budget and spent it all on the 360 and later ported the 360 version with 360 specs on the PS3. That is why we PS3 owners got the bad deal because the 360 and the PS3 are completely different on every level when developing games for the consoles. EA gave no explanation at all.

I want an official explanation from EA rather than rely on conjecture. EA must explain themselves or else I would consider them pure pu$$ies who hide behind a mask to escape from explaining their disaster.

It would be quite ironic if the PS3 version sold better than the 360 just like that movie '300' where HD-DVD got more features but the Blu-ray version outsold it by a huge margin. I still think the PS2 version will outsell the next-gen consoles versions.

[Jeremy Gerard]

as that sounds I agree, it would suck for PS3 fans to not get games like this, but it also sucks for PS3 fans to have to get the crappy version of everything, after all, they did pay more. And this IS Sonys fault, game makers should not have to spend more time and money to develop for a console that is supposedly superior, if it is so superior it should handle everything far easier, Sony simply does not know as much about software/hardware integration as M$ does and it shows, M$ works with developers all the time, but Sony is a hardware builder, and that is what they are good at, when it comes to making something work smooth with software they simply stumbled.

[Maddens Raiders]

until it melts on the field in the middle of the 3rd quarter. FKN losers. This is the only thing you can brag about this year, because the 360 for this developer [[[[EA]]]] is the only system that matters. It's clear...every commercial for Madden is followed by the MS LIVE logo WTFH?

EA are you puposely trying to hamstring and alienate a huge fanbase -- one that's been loyal for years before the teen60 showed up? Oh YES you are and you made sure by giving birth to a stillborn game you braindead FUHHHKKKKS!

Fuk it to hell - I hope you all get RROD from playing Madden too long and then some psycho dejected 360 owner throws up a thread about it and it gets Digg'd to hell!!! Man, I swear most of you shytblossom pussies have never thrown a football in your lives and now you're like -- oh I can't wait to play this..oh I've got mine reserved and am playing it all night long when I get home....blah, blah what the fvck ever.

I understand though...when there's not much good news for your system and hardly any HOTT news for the 360...there's nothing like a little JOHN MADDEN (((((BOOOM!!!)))) to pick you up...I'll be the first to admit it, because I've loved 'im FOREVER. It's also funny that the Euros are all over this too. I mean the guys that don't give a rats bloody a$$ about the NFL talking like Madden is the best thing since the telephone -- Give Me a Break. Keep up the charade guys. 2007 will be over soon and the 360 will be on it's way to an appointment with an early funeral. And EA is not doing itself ANY favors by putting out this BASURA. You see they got it all wrong. They shoul've kept the trash game for the _____ _______ and taken the time to do the game right for the ENERGIZER BUNNY of systems. Oh well - Fuk you EA and your galdammed laziness and greed. Man, what would I do to see the signed check amounts to the various game "reviewers" for this warmed over pot of vomit that you're marching out to everyone. Yeah the 360 has 60fps, but this is probably the least you all could've done this year...ya know the whole "keep there mouth watering for next year.." mentality. That shyt is played and old. FvK it to hell. I played "rdrnt_" - my old tag on Madden if you wanna test anyfukn day.

At least you and MS have BOOTLICKERS like bladestar to clean out your inner rim no matter what dish you throw in fron of them. It's all the same, this makes me so fuhkkkkking mad because I know damn well --- that this could've been done right...and still the _Bots are happy with slight upgrades and subpar collateral animations. Pathetic EA...a fuhkkkkkkin travesty all the way around. Looks like MS is gonna spend that billion all in one wad. I'm outta here w/ this.

I know I bytthced and moaned a lot here, but this is more toward EA than anything else, and all of the FAKE - A$$ "non" Madden players who have all of a sudden become Hall of Fame legends.

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Ok here comes the first little shytbird I gotta deal with. @ double-dildo'd below

...Don't use my lines that I use to deal with your kind around here you fkn cokkkksmoking little pryck. I've got games to play and don't worry about my shyt breaking when I do you panty-wearing freak. How about some Madden on LIVE? My cousin's got it. Let's see what ya got mama's boy. Hit me up. You see the tag fvckface.

God I gotta calm down. I'm ready to buckle up and knock some snot outta your SKULLLLLLLLL BOYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!

LOL - I see you're still talkin shyt. Are we gonna play or what. I like to put my money where my mouth is mam's boy? What's up? Still no answer huh?????

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Sorry Contra 26 you've been on ignore since WWII and you're not coming off just yet. =]
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Damn Jeremy Gererd...why did you have to get in this? Now I gotta ask you to please S T F U. If I want advice I'll go talk to the Executive.
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Oh and now...PS3rd place...wonder who that is????? THAMMER? POG????? the MART????? JENZO????? CALDERRA????? peekie -boo who are you? LOL this is the only time you get to talk to people "ruff" with a lot of bubbl3s....on the internet, yeah!!!!!!

[Double-Edged]

you need a tissue?
how about a game to play?

LOL.. ge you name. the 360 just pwned you...

Maddens Raiders...
should be 30fps_raiders

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LOL!!! you have such a low esteem. you get so fueled up. And no, I don't want to give out my Live account on N4G. it's plain stupid... and why would i give it to a loser who cries alot??? 30fps gaming for you huh... stupid loser.. Look at you, your pathetic... you and your PS3.... 3rd place with 30fps... hahahahahahahahhahaha.. you can talk all the garbage you want.... But we all know your a PS3 pusssy that loves football and can't get the full experience....

sorry.. real gaming belongs to 360 gamers... buy one, make a live account... then I'll agree to trade live accounts.

[Jeremy Gerard]

you need to chill out, it is not that serious, as for EA, who needs customers like you, you are a vile sick person, every other word is a profanity with you, i can feel the jealousy and hate in your writing, all over a box of transistors, you need help dude, Sony is not god, MS is not satan, go buy a 360, forget all this fanboy crap and become a gamer, because that is who the 360 was made for, not audio visual enthusiasts.

[Contra26]

Your such a loser. AHAHHahahahaha.. Your name says it all.. ahahahahaha ...

360 pwns Madden.

and Madden Raiders is the biggest cry baby on N4G.

someone give him a diaper!

[PS3rd place]

You own me.
I'm the wonderful PS3 that makes you look stupid =)
Please purchase your Madden game 30fps.

you have a big mouth and i have some games to fill it up.
Don't you like Lair (mixed reviews)???
Do you want some HS???? the very repetative game???
DO you want some....some.....some.....

just wait.... i'll have some games..

[FirstknighT]

you just got pwned hard! Time for a name change.

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

Wow EA must've hit one of Madden's nerves.

He's really worked up.

You should calm down Madden. Just don't buy the game, and watch your beloved console slip into nothingness.

Your hate really shows when you get upset.

[tomfoolery]

I mean,......sighhhhhhhhh......w ords can't describe the gaming bliss involved.
60 FPS!It's awesome.If you don't own one,JUMP IN.
Just for openers,BIO-SHOCK anyone?OMG......MASS EFFECT?PGfvcking 4?!!
Oh,the humanity!

On, a different note,a friend of mine works at EB games,and he tells me that since this whole 60 VS. 30 FPS(PS3) on the 08' Madden thingie
has taken place,360 sales have been slamming PS3 sales.Lot of
Madden freaks out there,who want the best system,for their beloved franchise.
Food for thought naysayers.

[Clinton514]

Says you're full of it. Who cares what your imaginary friend says? Keep hawking corporate lines as if you're getting a cent for it.

[Fighter]

all you guys talk about are Halo 3, Bioshock and Mass effect. Those are great games but that's all you guys bring up. I'm guessing that's the only games worth mentioning because the rest are all Krap. I would like to counter your 360 list with my PS3 list but it would be too long even if I only mentioned PS3 exclusives.

[tomfoolery]

little Clinton.

I'm really sorry about your PS3 cough cough at 30 cough FPS.
Lame retort 514.

[PS3rd place]

is truly Nex-Gen!!!

Buy me!!! the PS3!!!!

[magqcc7]

I had a brand new shiny chrome 360,but sold it to buy a ps3.If sony doesn't give some concrete evidence that my purchase was not in vain,then I might just defect to the 360's side when the new ones with the 65nm and hdmi come out.Perhaps there is some validity to 360's claim that it is the best(not most powerful)console this generation.30fps is completely inexcuseable with the supposedly superior technology in the ps3.I must admit that besides the bluray drive in my ps3,I have yet to see this "revolutionary-evolutiona ry" diffrence in graphics in my ps3.Actions speak louder than words,and right now microsoft is pure action,sony is more talk at this present time.

[Contra26]

Has got to be the saddest loser on N4G right now.

He's a PS3 fanboy and a football player.

Enjoy 30fps loser!!! hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahah a

Your a stupid LOSER!!!!!!!!

BIGGEST LOSER... You should change your name..

=**********(

cry me a river.... your PS3 is garbage...Garbage...

OUCH!!!! hey MAdden Raiders...

I'll be buying the better version of Madden for my 360.
Sorry.. and you can talk about your so called 'skills' all you want.... but that's just hiding the fact that YOU ARE A LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

[NextGen24Gamer]

All Pro Football by 2k Sports is the same deal. On the 360 its 60fps and 1080p...on the Ps3 its 30fps and 720p.

So now 2k is lazy too? lol....It just can't be that the writing is on the Wall?

Developers have been saying that the Ps3 while looks great on paper....Its just not optimal for next gen games. The key word is optimal. sure you can get games running on it. But the games run at half the speed and resolution as the 360 versions. Over and over again. With different developers....

Sony fans are pissed and should be. But don't blame the game developers....blame Sony. They are the ones that convinced you that the Cell was oh so great and Sony convinced you that the Ps3 would blow away the competition. So much so that many of you forked over 600 dollars to be bamboozled.

So instead of blaming Sony. You blame the game creators. What good will that do? Sony fans have NO MORE leverage. Yeah there are 120 million ps2 owners. But there are only 3 to 4 million ps3 owners.

You guys are the minority in the big picture of Next Gen gaming. You can boycott all you want......360 gamers love the developers and show their love with a high 6 attatch rate per console sold. That won't change. Especially going into the holiday. Halo 3, Bio Shock, all the Real sports games running in 1080p and 60 fps, Two Worlds, Mass Effect, PGR 4, Blue Dragon, and so on. AAA games through the Fall and winter months. WOW.

Sony was so dead set on pushing blu ray to get an edge in the movie market...that they negelected their fans. Some will stand strong....some will sway to the better console. But Sony's dominance in the video game market has been tarnished very badly.

With the release of every game....The truth is becoming more clear. The 360 is better for Next gen games. I'm not lying folks. Its not just hundreds of reviews. Its from me personally playing the games.

I know I know....you want people to wait. Wait and see the power of the ps3. lol....

My advice to Gamers is don't wait anymore. Go out and buy the best next gen console on the market. If you don't. You will miss out on some of the Best Console Goodness the industry has ever seen.

[harpua]

i like how gamespot gave both versions an 8.5.

http://www.n4g.com/News-590...

[NextGen24Gamer]

One of the big points of contention about this year's Madden has been the difference in performance between the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions. It was announced some time ago that the 360 version would run at 60 frames a second, versus 30 on the PS3. When you compare the two games side by side, yes, there is a noticeable difference. The PS3 version is certainly choppier and slightly more prone to hitching up in-game than the 360 one. However, simply taken on its own merits, the PS3 version isn't suddenly awful because of this one issue. The choppiness rarely ever distracts you from the gameplay, and for the most part, the 30 frames a second number holds pretty steady. If you have a choice between the two, certainly the 360 version is the preferable one from a visual standpoint, but the PS3 version isn't unplayable by any means.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3...

You can tell by the last sentence in the quote that they were attempting to be "NICE" due to all the poor reviews given to the Ps3 version thus far.

Its not exactly a compliment to say your version isn't unplayable...lol....And every review mentions the dips in the 30 fps....maybe they experienced a few less dips than the guys at IGN or the other review sites who thought it was in excusable. And why should anyone who paid 600 dollars for a next gen console put up with or deal with that?

Not entirely unplayabel...WOW...lol

[gamehendge]

"The choppiness rarely ever distracts you from the gameplay, and for the most part, the 30 frames a second number holds pretty steady."

poor x-kiddies just pouncing on any crumb thrown to them these days.

[Maddens Raiders]

Look , look I knew it....

Man it's like fkn clockwork. All week long all you hear about is how bad the 360 sux monkey a$$ and then all of a sudd3n a -company- whose new leader is the ex-leader of the damn thing "designs" a game that really is warmed over doo-doo on all three systems, but happens to run a 60fps on Peter Moore's stepchild and get's an editor's choice on the Wii! wow...can anyone not see what's happening here?

For any new comer's here that person calling themselves elite gamer is a mutherfk'n Charlatan. Period. He's been quiet for a week because ther's nothing to talk about and now you wonder about the real power of MADDEN. Amazing. A mulit-plat game that get the "real" football fans going in America. Too bad half the people talking down on the PS3 version don't even play the damn thing. Even to the extent that little schoolgirls have to make up names and hide like PSturd Place.

Now you see how desperate these fans really are. The PS3's worth and power have already been demonstrated and believe me THE KNOW that. From Bethesda, to 2K (Darkness), to Team Ninja, and even Ubisoft with R6V, to stress tests, towel tricks, scratched discs 1 billion dollar reserves and class action law suits. Everyone has seen this - everyone knows this, but it makes the _Bots shudder with a thunderous fear to imagine for a second that the PS3 might be able to outdo their 1st born on any level. It's really scary.

Where were you then you galdammed lying bastard Lamer? Oh I know..you were working hard at NINTENDO, right? Nursing and tending to Reggie's eybrows right? SHA!!!!! liar!

Don't let these fkn retards cloud your clear and rationale thinking. Top Lamer Gamer, the "new" PSTurd Place whose diguised as some little bytch and all the rest of the cleft-lipped short-bus brigade are all pulling on this nipple milking it until SHE's DRY people! I know the truth and I do know it's EA and so do you. I say speak with your wallets and ignore these _ussies on N4G that hide behind shotty, underpowered software, grotesque company denials and only come out when a company that's "clearly in bed" with them makes it apparent; and is in it solely for the money and the realization of hordes of programmed repeat buyers. Too bad for EA that Madden isn't the only game on earth that's produced. If it was up to them, everyone would be playing a 360.

The Buck Stops Here.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

The buck didnt stop there....

It kept on rollin all the way to MS and EA. Defend your PS3 ...thats your right. But the sad truth for you is... Madden blows on the PS3 compared to the 360. Deal with it.

[FirstknighT]

...that their is definitely frustration in the voices of the sony geeks. With the troubles and bad reviews Lair has been getting and Bioshock getting perfect scores...I can see why this kid has alot of anger. Add the fact that one of the best franchises in Madden is a lot better on the 360.....well....you can see why their is alot of crying over at the sony camp!

[Danega_Sciphor]

dudes all u guys do is talk trash, mo facts, you guys struggle and try to lye about sony which reality is the SuPREME one. You guys dont even look at the ps3 version (no haze effects hmmm...) and state 360 supreme when its not. So play madden then itll scratch your disc and bite you in the ass. Its so great to have ps3 when it has a 7core and 360only has 3. Dellusional xbot struggles will get you no where
and the dude, you mostly you are the weak xbot looks like the ignore button will come in handy afterall

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Dont' get me wrong...I have zero issues with a game running 30fps. I honestly figured it to be no biggie in Madden this year. That said...one thing you have to always fear at 30fps is if the game dips below it. Locked in at 30fps is fine...but falling below that constantly will make for an ugly game...and I guess the PS3 version is suffering that fate according to IGN.

Oh well...off to enjoy the 360 version. :)

[TheMART]

Like I said before:

BOTTLENECK 3

Whatever you Sony fans try to say, lazy developers, not enough time, its a port, they didn't want to put a real effort in...

IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL

Fact is that Madden 08 is great on 360 and just so so on the PS3. Americans love their football and will buy the right console for this. Combine that with Bioshock this month, plus all the multiplatform games on the 360 are outperforming their PS3 counterpart and there we go.

It doesn't matter why the PS3 gets less quality games. If its a port, developers lazy etc etc, its just a fact: they're not upto the quality of the 360 version. And thats the only thing that counts. Because PS3 fans, if you're in 2010 still saying: "Damn again a bad PS3 version, its lazy developers, its a port blablabla" what did it bring you all those years? NOTHING BUT ENVY FOR THE 360

[Loudninja]

but its a mutipaltform sports game.Millions will buy it no matter what.If Sony can do 60FPS with ease, they can as well, they have no excuse.

Its no big deal only 360 fans are making a huge deal out of a simple 60FPS.Its like they never had it before.Its not new to us PS3 fans.

[TheMART]

30fps or 60fps in general isn't such a big issue... Unless with sport games where higher fps are nescessary

Plus: 30fps with a dip, comes close to slideshow under 24fps for the human eye. 60fps can have a dip to 50fps without being noticed.

[reaperxciv]

by the rate the ps3 is going, in a couple of years almost everyone will be owning one coz it's gonna be dirt cheap

[skinzfan]

This review was really harsh. I played both versions yesterday. There is not much of a difference whatsoever. You notice little things but both games are fluid. I really cant understand why it was given this score.

[LiquifiedArt]

I dont buy EA games anymore. lol. So I dont really care. TECMO SUPER BOWL FTW!

[OutLaw]

It's reviews like this that makes my 360 a must have system. Even though I feel that EA is just plain lazy.

[JokesOnYou]

http://www.n4g.com/NewsPend...

so a completely legit news story about madden 360 vs ps3 isnt news even though its a totaly different review from the IGN review, but of course any news of 1 guy sharing his broken 360 story with us is legit ha ha bring it on n4g how biased can you be and the same ones like timmy53 are the first ones to approve every one of those over and over again ha ha I love it this is not news for ONE simple reason and one reason only sony kids dont like it= the fact that its saying how bad the ps3 version is again does not make it less worthy since its a different legit videogame review source, yet news about 1 avg joe who we don't know with a broken 360 is= heres your proof this site is sonynews4gamers its so funny watching all these pathetic sony hypocrits= hey sony kids in the words of the great King Leonidas "May you live forever"

you can't have it both ways sony kids=

JOY

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

It's funny that neither BILL GATES, nor NASIM had anything at all to say about this.

I guess they couldn't spin it.

BILL GATES, NASIM. Where are your idiot remarks?

[Real gamer 4 life]

I think the ps3 is so technologically advance, that the developers dont know how to work with it. Beacause from a technological Stanpoint the ps3 is the superior machine, and that is a proven fact, nobody can tell you otherwise. Is a machine that is truly for futuristic gaming. Developer Dont know how to work with it, is just came out a couple a month ago. Next year is sony year. you will start seeing the difference between the two system. the power of the ps3 will be exploit sooner or later. Look at rockstar they see the potention that the ps3 has they know, and the same goes for konami. they will exploit the ps3 power with mgs.

[carlman23]

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TEC...

"Intihar said he has already played the newest version and likes many added features, such as a bigger front-office mode, a superstar mode, and better performance, particularly on the Xbox 360 version."

This kind of stuff IS going to reach the public. So complain to Sony and force them to fix their problems if they want us to buy their system.

[Real gamer 4 life]

And for Xbox fanboys remember who laugh last laugh best. Yes Xbox game are looking better now but in the near future, the ps will no longer be to hard to develop game for no more, and people will start seeing a difference.

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

I wonder how long your blind faith will hold up.

Don't you think dev's will get better at making 360 games too? Or is it just a double standard?

Maybe dev's won't ever figure out how to make multiplat games good on the PS3, simply bc the cell complicates things, and frankly makes dev's want to slit their wrists.

[mcgrawgamer]

Boys in the hood play nothing but madden, and right now boys in the hood playing it on the 360. We liked the ps2, but Sony is gonna have to do something drastic with the price before we shift. and right now our focus is the 360. That's how it is where I'm from and that's probably how it is where dat boy sticky_doja is from and every other brother in this forum for that matter. I'll tell u like this we go where madden is. Ask msoft when they first came out that with craptastic game nfl fever...Me and my boys laughed at that game for the first xbox.

[The Real Joker]

If "boys in the hood" can afford to buy an expensive next gen piece of hardware shouldn't they also be able to afford a place to live outside of "the hood"?

Edit: @Virus Gotcha man..makes sense to me. I can understand having some pride about the place you grew up but someone bragging about being raised in a dangerous squalled hell hole is another story.

[VirusE]

Meathead its called lack of priorities, that is why they are in the hood to begin with. Bein "hard" is more important that being realistic.

[Real gamer 4 life]

Developer will figure out how to use the cell processor of the ps3, Right now that is rockstar goal. they see what the ps3 can do and they wanna take gaming to the next level. Devlopers have the x box pretty much down pack. they know how to work with it. they had a 2 year head start. sony just came out with there system. Yes the Ps3 is a far more complicated system to work with, however is also the one that is more superior than the others. it just take time next year is sony year.

[Maddens Raiders]

on the boyz-n-the-hood theory, but boyz in the hood also like shyt that doesn't break down on them. The funny thing is that you guys are acting like a system that has had as much of a head start as the fixme isn't supposed to shine every now and then in "some" arenas and this just happens to be one.

It will not make me buy a MS console, because there's plenty that I love about the PS3, but I will say that this union between Moore and EA is troubling for my future interests in Madden, and Live and I'm sure SNE will find away to satisfy this addiction for it's users. In the meantime 2K has shown me the truth with NHL and NBA2K as well as the Darkness so the whole "PS3 is inferior..bottleneck, say no to SNE , blah, blah, blah..," from the Baghdad Ministry of Information's equivalent in Top Lamer and the Mart-in is just more half-baked, cooked up propaganda from the two most miserable people on planet Earth.

What's more is that a lot of _Bots said a few months ago (I'm paraphrasing) that it's all about the money and timelines and EA is not going to take the time to break down and really get into maximizing the PS3 for it's latest re-hashed rendition, that being Mad'08. How quickly you guys forget your own statements.

Now, with that said it shouldn't surprise you guys that the PS3 version of the game is not running better - so why all the HOOPLA and histrionics now? Who are you really fooling or let me guess you just like to rub it in by stating the obvious ---nah!! no way you would do that!!!lol, and I have faith that things won't be the same next year. And if this game looks like this next year on the 360 you should be concerned as well whether it's @ 60fps or not. EA has made it clear to me and (everyone else) that the 360 is their lead platform and I for one will remember that next year. I know money is the driving force behind the Madden template and the union between these two company's and if that's the major concern for quality development on the PS3, I'd rather keep mine (money) in my wallet until I know they're serious about programming for the PS3. There are too many other games/applications and quality programmers for me to weep over spilled milk regarding the PS3, that I'm really excited about to worry about the MS/EA marriage.

Also if you're going to bring up the boys in the hood I think you would agree that "tru-tru-playaz" were dropping PS2's annd Gamecubes in their Cadillacs and Suburbans and Jeeps, not the Duke and the XBox1. I don't think that that's going to change this time around either if there's any truth to those "stress" tests -- talk about road rage. =P If EA even comes close to getting it right next year I may join the fray again, but I'll happily play on my cousin's second 360 and enjoy all of the games coming to the PStriple. Everyone enjoy!

Congratulations EA and Microsoft...I now pronounce you husband and wife. You may now kiss my a$$. I still have love for you John. And Peace to you mcgrawgamer.

cheers

[BLACKJACK VII]

60 Million copies sold since 1989
Madden Franchise = Most Popular Sports Game Ever.

Gameplay & Graphics Summary:
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Gameplay on the PS3:
"In theory, this is one of the better Madden's. But the framerate issues hinder the gameplay a bit, keeping PS3 owners from experiencing all of the good things Tiburon added this year."

Cell Graphics:
"The details are good, but Madden is ugly in motion. It's optimistic to call this a game that runs at 30fps. The animations don't look that great because of the lower framerate."

Face it, the Xbox 360's superior architecture is easier to program for, it consistantly has smoother gameplay & framerates, better AI, better graphics, better textures, more memory, a much faster drive, & most importantly: superior software & more of it,... all at a better price!

Not to mention, Rumble, Achievements, online multiplayer chat, Marketplace content, tons of Free Demos, and of course, XBL. What more do you need ? Do you want a Next Gen Gaming console, or a Next Gen Movie player ???
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"It is a shadow of its cousin on 360...the drop to an unstable 30fps hurts considerably. The visuals and the gameplay suffer... It just doesn't run very well."

LOL !!! Hey Nasim, Wagglelol, & Bill Gates, YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL ???

[sheng long]

no madden for me since, well, i really can't remember. That's the honest truth. Sorry for all who are disappointed.

[Testo]

People on this site create 12 different accounts so they can convince readers of the truth.

[Groo]

I have seen and played NCAA 08 on ps3 and 360 as well as Ranbow Six Vegas..trust me the frame rate makes a huge difference, and for some reason both games don't look nearly as good on ps3 as the 360....we shall see with Madden 08

[mcgrawgamer]

didn't mean to sound that way. when I say boyz in the hood I mean predominatly black neighborhoods. I just assumed urban culture had penetrated the masses enough for you guys not to take that term out of context. I stand corrected. so let me sound more politcally correct for VirusE and MeatHead (the names truly do fit guys) Majority of African American gamers like madden and mostly sports titles. Right now in the area of the united states where i reside people are playing most sports games on the 360. Hope that's good enough for you boys. @ Maddens Raiders agreed we don't like faulty hardware but honestly only myself and one other friend have had issues with our 360's no one else has experienced problems but we are well aware of the issues with the 360. bottomline is this no one wants to buy a game the majority of their friends don't have I could have easily bought a ps3, but why would I want to be the only one playing resistance fall of man with strangers when everybody i know is playing gears and madden on the 360? I'm quite sure if we could justify the price of the ps3 we would have stayed with the playstation brand and maybe over time that will happen. i guess we wait and see and once again to MeatHead and VirusE. To represent your hood is to show love to where your from where u grew up. In my community there is a diff between the hood and the projects. Just so you know...

[The Real Joker]

Thanks for the clarification.

[Anything but Cute]

I've seen vidoes and I don't see any difference other than the XBOX 360 version looks darker. When put in slow motion at 25% speed the PS3 version looks blurrier in comparison. But damn they are making too big a deal about it, they suddenly want to make people believe the PS3 version is broken and it's not. If you didn't compare it to the 360 version, people would play it and not notice a damn thing.

EA pretty much already says they are on a time limit to try to get the game out to all the consoles, and obviously the PS3 is newer hardware and they are still learning while the 360 hardware has already been mastered.

We get it already, XBOX 360 version runs at 60FPS. We heard you loud and clear. How many more times are you gonna say it? Suddenly XBOX 360 fans are huge fans of frame rates. Hell they might even become computer graphical technicians in light of this. First lesson, "can you spot the frame rates" no but they sure are trying hard at it.

Most people don't even know or care what a frame rate is. 70% of XBOX 360 and PS3 owners are probably still in the dark ages and aren't even using HDTV's.

[Groo]

My roomate has a ps3 with a 32 inch LCD, I have a 360 with the same TV as his. We notice, btw I think most people that can afford a next gen console would at least have a HDTV. Your sick of hearing 360 bullcrap, I'm sick of hearing PS3 bullcrap.

[Lanontscuz]

good for the 360 owners they got madden this year i guess but since its been awhile since i gotten a madden hmmm madden 04 was the last time i owned one... and since im a ps3 owner myself i will wait till EA steps up to the plate and brings us an actually next gen football game.... until EA actually has a competition in the football games i still can not trust them that they have put everything new or innovating in there madden series.... i guess i wont be buying a madden game this year also

[Zhuk]

Lets look at the FACTS

FACT: EA simply could not get the PS3 version of Madden to run smoothly at 60 FPS, while they could on the Xbox 360.

WHY? because the PS3 is poorly designed as a gaming system and consumers are paying for it. For all the supposed power and impressive figures of the CELL processor the thing is just not great for games. The console has a lot of potential, but the fact is that nearly every third party game suffers because of Sony's poor design choices because it costs more in money and time to get the thing to compete at the same level as the 360.

That's the facts, it's not because of a global conspiracy involving Microsoft paying EA and all these other publishers to say bad things about the PS3 or because "devs are lazy" (Sony fandroids are a bunch of armchair programmers, most of them have never worked hard in their life or know anything about how hard it is to develop a modern game), it's because Microsoft has offered a platform that is easier to develop on than Sony has.

And their decisions should be criticized, not covered up by spin and lies.

[s8anicslayer]

madden is a crappy game anyway, all buy 2k

[ARog34]

I'm really enjoying Madden on the PS3. I can't complain for I haven't had one since '04. Just picked it up today, hopefully I can get online tommorow...

[ARog34]

I mean, we're not playing the game at slow speed (25%) like in the videos... I don't care what point they're trying to make. So, the 360 may run faster, it doesn't ruin the gameplay experience for me when playing the PS3. I can live with it... the game is truly amazing in my mind.

[IRONMAN457]

ps3 is so inferior that 360 has a triple cell processor and ps3 has a seven (which controls AI), yea zhuk when 360 has a washed out xenon while Ps3 has RXS and NIVIDIA the best known cards to man (which controls graphics with 51billion max dot produce while 360's card can only produce 24), dude your post are so pointless and stupid.

[Zhuk]

"ps3 is so inferior that 360 has a triple cell processor and ps3 has a seven" your crude and ignorant comparison shows you know absolutely nothing about the CELL Processor or the Xbox 360