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Move 'Next Gen Of FPS Controls' - Dev

NowGamer: Heroes on the Move developer Harley Baldwin White-Wiedow has described PlayStation Move as "the next generation of shooter controls"...

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xYLeinen5006d ago

Bold statement. I have NO idea how Move will work with fps at this point and I have also no idea this will be compared to a Dualshock 3 controller. By that I mean, can you get as good with Move as with a Dualshock 3 controller on multiplayer?

I'm definitely buying Move tho. Sure the Wii got somewhat the same technology but I got a PS3, therefor Move >_>

Fishy Fingers5006d ago

Killzone 3 Move demo http://n4g.com/news/586726/...

Or watch any Socom footage, 3rd/1st person shooters essentially play in the same way (control wise).

GreenRingOfLife5006d ago

If this type of motion control is the next gen of FPS controls then how come there are barely any FPS on the Wii

TotalPS3Fanboy5006d ago

Because Wii is not accurate.

rroded5006d ago

def has the potential to make teh ol dualshock seem like a disadvantage.
tho till i have one in my hands ta try...

MiloGarret5006d ago (Edited 5006d ago )

What a joke, unless you absolutely suck at shooters, there is no way you'll maintain your level if you opt for Move, despite the crazy aim-assist which was used for the KZ3 demo.

I'm sorry, but you have to be delusional to believe otherwise.

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IneedWeed5006d ago

Think it'll work good. I'm thinkin of getting the gun add-on so it feels like I'm aiming it with a handgun. This works similar to the Wii, but better. The Wii you have to hold it at some angle or position in order for it to work good. PS Move feels a lot more natural. Can't wait for KZ3, RE5, Socom 4, Dead Space 2, and others.

aceofspades5006d ago

it could work, im confident in the move.

NegativeCreepWA5006d ago

As left handed gamer that doesn't play with south paw settings, I don't think I'll be able to get into shooters with move I'm too familiar to using my left thumb for moving. I'll be using it for other types of games.

sinncross5006d ago

Aren't default setting for FPS/ TPS with the player using their left thumb for movement?

Anyways, all you have to do is swap the move and nav controller to the other hand... simple really.

NegativeCreepWA5006d ago (Edited 5006d ago )

Really!! Maybe you should read a little more carefully. I play games like a right handed person so I use my left thumb to move, but if I use a move controller I need to also use the move wand in my left hand. So if I have the move wand in my left hand where does that put the nav? (wait for it) MY RIGHT HAND.

So playing shooters with move in my case goes against years of playing games using my left hand for moving in games. I have the same problem while playing wii games like Mario Galaxy.

I played games south paw like some left handed gamers, it wouldn't be a problem.

Dramscus5006d ago

Before I was just planning to get move pretty soon after release. Around the time scom killzone and sorcery were al out.
Now with mag getting it it's a day one purchase.

outlawlife5006d ago

not all of us really want motion controls, personally I have no real interest in them because most of the time when I game I'm tired and feeling like I want to relax

flailing my arms around doesn't really appeal to me, same reason why I don't have a wii or buying kinect

i don't want it

jneul5006d ago

have you watched the videos for socom 4, killzone 3 for move controls, they barely even move their arms, hell you can even play it sitting down,,,,

HowarthsNJ5006d ago

How much do you flail using a flashlight/torch?

Playing a FPS should be no more than wrist tilts.

outlawlife5006d ago

i'm saying in general, all 3 controls require vastly different ranges of motions...it fully depends on the game

some you need to flail, others you can get away with a tilt

but then the question comes into play, if you can do it by barely moving then what is the point of it being motion enabled?

I just think it is a tacky fad and not really a desirable accessory to me, others may have a differing opinion but that is mine

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Air Conflicts: Secret Wars - PlayStation Move's Best Kept Secret

Air Conflicts: Secret Wars debuted in 2011, and later updated for modern consoles. However, it's the PlayStation 3 edition that stands out.

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Why the PlayStation Move Failed

Sony's PlayStation Move may not have been able to contend with Nintendo's Wii, but it paved the way for PlayStation VR's success story.

SullysCigar964d ago

I use them most days and have for years 🤷🏻‍♂️

They're definitely way past a needed update, but I've got a tonne of fun out of them, so they haven't failed me.

bouzebbal964d ago

The best motion control platform it's so intuitive.. Died due to lack of support from Sony.. It had some amazing games

thorstein964d ago

They are used constantly for PSVR games. So, no they haven't failed. Neither has PSVR (or VR in general.)

Bigman4k964d ago (Edited 964d ago )

The article was talking about why it ps move failed before psvr came along

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH965d ago

It failed because it sucked plain and simple.

LOGICWINS964d ago

I feel that's a bit harsh. To this day, playing Killzone 3's campaign with PS Move/Sharpshooter gun combo is the most fun/immersive experience I've ever had with an FPS.

I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be, but it didn't "suck".

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH964d ago

It most definitely sucked. You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible. The entire motion control fad was a waste of resources and time. Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it...

Minute Man 721964d ago

@SPEAK

The Move was better that the Wii mote. If the Wii was anywhere accurate as the Move was you could say the Wii was better. Sure it sold boatloads but was it really played consistently??

yeahokwhatever964d ago

I played it in 3D with the move gun on a 100 inch projector and it BLEW MY MIND. I was exhausted, but i finished the campaign standing there.

SullysCigar964d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming"

Just no. Games release most weeks (for years now) that support Move controllers. Some ONLY use Move controllers.

Look, I get you're not a fan, but if you're going to rant, at least inform yourself in advance.

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LordoftheCritics964d ago

I would say both Move and Kinect weren't supported properly.

Sony and MS abandoned what could have been amazing.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH964d ago

Kinect sucked too. I would say Kinect may have been cool had it worked as intended but it was ahead of it's time. Both Kinect and Move are gimmicks nothing more. I honestly don't see why Sony still implements "motion controls" recent controllers. Who really uses that crap? And to play what?

Profchaos964d ago

I so t think Sony abandoned the move it's technically repurposed and still supported on the ps5 just for VR

RedDevils964d ago

Kinect should be kept as media interactive features.

LordoftheCritics964d ago (Edited 964d ago )

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH
Again if it was supported right.

Where even a fast click of my fingers could get an immediate in game response.

It feels trash because we have been shown or lived with bad versions of gesture based tech. Think Minority Report fast. That could be something.

''You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible.''

No one is acting like it was special, I said it could be amazing.

''I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be''

Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game and then we can discuss profits.

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SPEAKxTHExTRUTH964d ago

I don't deal in "what if". It wasn't supported right and even if it was it was still a gimmick.

thorstein964d ago

"Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game"

You just described every AAA PSVR game. And even the indies have incredible integration. No Man's Sky VR is insanely good.

Silly gameAr964d ago

And, you can act like it was horrible, but I had a blast with my Move. I had the whole collection of House of the Dead, Dead Space Extraction, and RE Darkside Cronicles, The Fight, and Socom 4, and I would play the hell out of those games I even beat a playthrough of the Resistance 3 campaign with the Move. Getting drunk and playing with friends was a freaking blast.

You can pretend that you had a move and played it all you want SPeak the Truth, but it was accurate, and usually on point. I hate when people act like they've played something just to trash it, when they really just have a vendetta, and think the Move is easy prey for your hate.

Minute Man 721964d ago

Wait you can play Dead Space with the Move?? I need it

Orchard964d ago

“You can pretend that you had a move”

I love this crazy idea that if someone has something bad to say about hardware/software - they must be lying about owning it and clearly do not own it!

Because all hardware and software has a 100% approval rating from all purchasers…

P_Bomb964d ago (Edited 964d ago )

Shoot I forgot about Dead Space Extraction and Umbrella Chronicles. Had those too. Still do (digital).

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH964d ago

I have a vendetta against Move? Lmao that's the most ridiculous comment I've read today. I didn't buy it because like I said motion controls are gimmicks. I had a Wii and it was decent enough but a gimmick although successful. I had a Kinect and it too was trash. Don't act as if you know what I have and haven't owned. Move was nothing more than a Wiimote ripoff

yeahokwhatever964d ago

SO MANY really great experiences for the Move. The Fight was excellent!

Silly gameAr964d ago (Edited 964d ago )

@Minute Man

There was a game called Dead Space Extraction that you could play the Move with.

@Orchard. Please don't reply to me, because every time I say something to you, I magically end up restricted. So, just ignore me like I ignore you, so there will be no hurt feelings, please.

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Vanfernal964d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it..."

That is demostrably false.... Most VR games have motion controls and the PSVR uses the Move controllers.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH964d ago (Edited 964d ago )

VR games have a controller most of the time not some magic wand. And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect. I'm not a fan of VR either. A controller and a couch is all I need for my gaming needs.

Vanfernal964d ago

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH

"And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect."

PSVR LITERALLY uses the Move controllers. Now it's just obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. You're saying Move failed and nobody uses it anymore when it's an integral part of PSVR and is still being used in 2021.

ScootaKuH964d ago

It didn't suck. It worked but the games just weren't there, that's why it failed.

Father__Merrin964d ago

The move was excellent it was 1 to 1 precise time crisis was a joy to play aswell as sports champions it didn't hit mainstream as it was an addon unlike Nintendo wiimote

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Godmars290965d ago

Lack of games that proved the concept that 3rd parties could then copy en masse?

Silly Mammo964d ago

I wish that someone would have made a proper boxing game. I still have a blast with the Sports Champions boxing, but to have a boxing game that was more in-depth would have been awesome.

Dario_DC964d ago

Try Creed for PSVR, it's brilliant

OMGitzThatGuy965d ago

Because it was a uninspired ripoff of the Wii controller without the Nintendo library to back it and didn't try to put any real effort into development such as getting their top developers to make games for it and instead gave tech demos disguised as games to their least talented developers so the best can focus on single player only games.

Ryushaa965d ago

Except the Move was an idea roughly implemented in the PS2. Yes, I'm serious.
Just search on youtube: PlayStation 2 - Motion Controller (2004)

Nonetheless, just like the whole Wii, it was more of a gimmick than a proper input evolution in games.

jukins965d ago

Exactly. Its funny time and time again sony is the first innovate. Often at its own peril. Like your example the move started on ps2 taken advantage of by nintendo. Sony buys gakai for game streaming only for other companies to overtake them.

Profchaos964d ago

Are you talking about the gametrak on os2 which used strings to track your hand position I used to have this and a gold game it was awesome but the game itself sucked if it had integration with tiger woods or something it would be way better the tracking was excellent even back then as it wasn't using guesswork.
However the game was very forgiving and no way to turn it harder and no licensed players or courses hurt it.

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yeahokwhatever964d ago

99% of the Wii's games were "shovelware", in fact, I think thats what started that phrase..

EvertonFC965d ago

Socom, killzone, resistance and tiger wood 14 were great with the move but agree lacked more games.

yeahokwhatever964d ago

There were plenty of games and I'm glad that not every game became a Move game.

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These PS3 Games are Going to get Really Expensive

Could you get rich by investing in PS3 games? Almost definitely not. Can you make a few bucks by flipping PS3 games over the years? Yeah, sure! It wouldn’t even be that difficult. But let’s face it: Once these games are in your collection, you’re probably keeping them forever.

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CDbiggen967d ago

There's a reason I didn't buy most of these when they came out.

MadLad967d ago

After a game's multiple generations old, and can't be had new at a reasonable price, that's when I see nothing wrong with emulation.

What's the point of paying someone scalper prices when the dev/publisher isn't even benefiting from it?

mkis007967d ago

Emulation doesn't stop a games physical box from becoming collectible.

Knightofelemia967d ago

I paid $30 for SH Downpour on PS3 now it's around $70-$85 Canadian Lolipop Chainsaw I paid $15 and it has really gone up in price. I wonder if Transformers War and Fall of Cybertron will go up in price two of the best Transformers games every made.

neutralgamer1992967d ago

In 5 years time all those games will be worth at least $150 to $200 that you listed

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neutralgamer1992967d ago

Ever since Sony announced that they would shut down PS3 store these prices have skyrocketed and even though Sony backtracked now most gamers realize that it's a matter of time before the PlayStation 3 store is shut down. If you want these games get them while you can even if digital because once that story shut down the physical prices will just go crazy high we saw that already

And many of these games did not sell like crazy amounts so they are limited number of copies available for sale at any given time

MadLad967d ago

Folklore is a game I've always really wanted to play, but I got a PS3 late in the generation, and it was already really expensive to find, being it didn't exactly sell well, therefore was already kind of a collector's item.

Kept hoping I'd find a cheap copy randomly at stores and flea markets, but never happened.

franwex967d ago

I got mine for $5 at Walmart like 10 years ago. I have yet to play it.

neutralgamer1992967d ago

It was available at GameStop for a while for under $20. Don't know har happened but GameStop started to sell their used games based on ebay prices it seems

You can still find it for around $60-70 and which in my opinion is a good price for a game that will be worth double if not triple that in next 5 years

Mr Logic967d ago

Have you considered modding your PS3? Neither Sony or the dev would be getting money from that Folklore purchase. Kind of a victimless crime at that point.

MadLad967d ago (Edited 967d ago )

@neutral

Honestly, I just want to actually give the experience a try. I'm not someone who would buy it at a premium just to potentially rip someone off down the road.
I mean, there are collectors out there and if paying a couple hundred dollars is worth it to them then more power to them, but I'm not one to be on either end of that exchange.

I know it's taboo, but I might dig in and see the state of PS3 emulation on PC. I have a good PC, so it might be able to power through the often times poor performance, being PS3 is known to be hard to emulate.

I've never emulated anything past the PS2/Dreamcast but, as I said in my first post, I don't see anything wrong with emulation if the game you want to play can only be had used, with no money going to the creators.

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