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Why Bad Company 2 Failed Part 2

5 Critical points are covered that discuss the paths DICE and EA took to get where the Battlefield Series currently stands. Why is Bad Company 2 not in the top 5 for games currently played? Part 2 picks up where Part 1 left off...

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Anime-Vixen5009d ago

Didn't this game sell over a million copies...

Red_Phoenix5009d ago

Well they definitely sold more than 5 million.

http://content.usatoday.com...

That article is from May, so probably a bit more than that now.

MariaHelFutura5008d ago

Please don`t tell me you believe sales = quality.

T9X695008d ago

Are you saying everything that sells well is bad then? MGS4 sold over 5 million copies and I think that was a pretty high quality game. I'm sure some people think the same about BFBC2, its all opinion based.

lastdual5008d ago

It's fine to talk about a game's shortcomings, but the fact is, when you're talking about a game that sold 5 million+ copies, making the statement that it "failed" makes you look like an idiot.

You might not care for Wii Fit, but did Wii Fit "fail"? If so, I'd love to have one of my products fail like that...

palaeomerus5008d ago

"Please don`t tell me you believe sales = quality."

No, of course not. Small groups of idiotic fanboys hiding behind pseudonyms on game forums, who can hardly write a coherent sentence, and have obvious axes to grind, are the sole arbiters of quality.

LOL.

nycredude5008d ago

I actually enjoy the sp much more than MW2's sp.

Raendom5008d ago

Me too! It was a little too short and ended abruptly though. I wanted to go to alaska and fight some Russians!

deafwing5008d ago

.. the next one of course

JsonHenry5008d ago

I played this game on the PC for two months straight. I loved it. It plays well, it looked great on the PC, and the servers were only flaky for the first week or so. Overall a great game.

Now Medal of Honor on the other hand....

Kleptic5008d ago

the rehash of MOH is what has me confused on a game 'lacking direction'...granted i haven't played the beta at all...but I can see where many say the game doesn't really have any identity...

CoD owns the close quarters multiplayer action...love it or hate it...thats where its pacing and gameplay mechanics come together the most...Treyarch tried vehicles a few times, and messed with what IW set up enough that it was 'different' enough for a sequel, but the franchises strongest points multiplayer wise always involved close to medium range combat when compared to something 'big' like battlefield...

Medal of Honor isn't even relevant as a franchise right now...as in it doesn't have a 'this is what moh is all about' tag...

Battlefield on the other hand used to be the opposite of call of duty...big open maps, tons of vehicles, and the feeling of being involved in a large scale invasion...but Battlefield dropped most of that scale and focused more on smaller combat...still bigger than cod, but nothing like what it used to be...

i'm not saying I mind that either...just saying...where exactly is medal of honor supposed to fit in now?...people say its like BC2, but without destruction...but still with lots of vehicles...and about the same size...and its even made by DICE, making it look, sound, and feel just like BC2...

on the politics side I really hope EA/DICE do well with moh...I like EA a hell of a lot more than Activision...and DICE has always been a pretty humble developer that delivers some of the best multiplayer games the genre has ever seen...where as IW was great, but they knew it...and constantly reminded us of that...and Treyarch simply doesn't count imo...they made spider man games...and now just make sequels to a franchise everyone is getting tired of...

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ZombieAutopsy5008d ago

For BF3 they need to bring back the Clan support that BF2: Modern Combat had, it's something most shooters don't have and something the community loved and continues to ask for. I still think BFBC2 is good and plan on picking it up next month but i still play BFBC1 and enjoy it more than Modern Warfare 2.

jacobdevos5008d ago

BF:BFC2 not only sold well but is probably one of the best thought out online FPS's in a long time.

This is easily the best online FPS out there right now, it looks great, it plays great, it has plenty of re playability.

I haven't loved an online fps this much since CS 1.6

corneliuscrust5008d ago

I haven't been this engrossed in an FPS since CS either! Every time I play it takes me back to those high school days with CS beta 7 hehe

BeaArthur5008d ago

Someone is looking for hits.

xino5008d ago

game failed for me because the storymod was rubbish and I constantly get disconnected online, so therefore I sold the trash game.

jacobdevos5008d ago

and you dont have the networking knowledge to play pc games online..

that's all i just read.

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EA Hopes to Use Generative AI to Drive Monetization and Make Development 30% More Efficient

Today Electronic Arts CEO Andrew Wilson provided a look into his ideas for the use of generative AI in the company's development processes.

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thorstein52d ago

I wonder what the next buzz word they'll slap in front of AI to make it sound exciting next? "Generative" as if it's creating its own content. Lol.

Cacabunga52d ago

EA is already dying a painful death..

peppeaccardo52d ago

i have a better idea .. why the whole exec team doesn't get replaced by chat bots ?

just_looken52d ago

Though i agree the ai thing is already in other forms of media there have been ai translations/scripts/voice over and even full ai commercials aired on tv. Ubisoft has created a ai game creator story/vo/music except the building of the game

The new unreal engine has auto terrain creation tools

In the world of greed in which it is winning without any major blow back ai is our future.

everyone want's biden dead on the mic or a criminal instead of a woman and now we are getting ai everything because no one will stop watching/playing ai created media.

GamerRN52d ago

Maybe they should just focus on making good games?

Just a thought...

Kiryu199251d ago

Exactly EA are just pure evil. When they are beating Bank of America to be voted the worst company to work for that’s saying a lot

Good thing I don’t buy their games day one and wait for deep deep sale years after launch (the select few games I am actually interested in)

Gaming is making so much money yet the greed of these companies is never ending

CEO’s and people on board making millions yet cutting jobs to those who are actually making the products

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Knightofelemia52d ago (Edited 52d ago )

EA is still a shady shitty company even with or without the help of Skynet. All they will use AI for is new ways to milk loot boxes and come up with the same sports title with a different year on the label. They are one company I truly do hate with a passion. They single handedly ruined some great franchise with their death touch. ME, Dead Space, Alice Returns, Dante's Inferno.

Stuart575652d ago

EA layoffs followed by 'Generative AI to Drive Monetization'

I knew it. Wonder what AI salary looks like? Nothing.

ChasterMies52d ago

I having a feeling that most of the layoffs in the industry are based on the idea that AI will do the same job for less.

DarXyde51d ago

Very likely, yes.

Made worse by the fact that the execs aren't changing their compensations.

My deepest fear at this point is that we are now in the capitalism endgame.

At this point, we really should just burn AI to the ground. Executives cannot be trusted to do the right thing.
How are those people expected to support families if everything gets automated?

Barlos52d ago (Edited 52d ago )

And take away creativity, and people's jobs as we've been seeing. Got it.

No thanks. I want my games created by people, not AI.

CobraKai52d ago

Exactly. If or when games start becoming more AI than people, im done with gaming. AI and companies like EA can suck donkey d***k.

just_looken52d ago

Though i agree remember this is no ps3/360 era were we got up to 3 games in one generation from on developer like gears/halo/bioware/sony/ms

The people today are pro esg/sweet baby for the most part AAA gaming is imploding right now.

We should be stepping back re evaluate everything as a whole this year xmen 97 written/directed by a woman that is nuts and its also being made by a group reshaping bodies to be less sexual like wtf. A dam famous cartoon from the 90's is being rebuilt with millions spent to be worse in everyway.

Gaming/movies/tv shows made today are worse than what we had 7years ago ai won't change this but that ai is also being made by these groups so either way we are screwed.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Eonjay51d ago

Don't be of afraid of women. Sexy characters in games and movies still exist. Got my Stellar Blade on preorder!!! Everything all the time doesn't need to be sexual...that's stupid, childish and dull.

Chocoburger52d ago (Edited 52d ago )

EA doesn't want to lose their title of worst gaming company ever, always trying their best to remain the champs!
What's sad is that they have so much potential to be a decent publisher.

SSX Tricky / SSX 3
Def Jam Vendetta / Fight for New York
NBA Street
NFL Steet
Mirror's Edge
Bad Company
Burnout 3 / 4 / 5

Remember when EA used to be awesome? It's all over with now. Unpolished, if not out-right broken games these days. Endless monetization and gambling in their sports games, and let's not forget wasting hours of your life trying to unlock characters or equipment using "surprise boxes!"

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EA And Sony Layoffs, Entertainment News And More Skewedcast

Gareth, Justin, and JoeyZ look at Layoff news for EA and Sony and reasons behind the downturn in the industry and more.

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EA - Continuing to evolve our business and teams

EA CEO Andrew Wilson writes: "In this time of change, we expect these decisions to impact approximately 5 percent of our workforce. I understand this will create uncertainty and be challenging for many who have worked with such dedication and passion and have made important contributions to our company. While not every team will be impacted, this is the hardest part of these changes, and we have deeply considered every option to try and limit impacts to our teams. Our primary goal is to provide team members with opportunities to find new roles and paths to transition onto other projects. Where that’s not possible, we will support and work with each colleague with the utmost attention, care, and respect. Communicating these impacts has already begun and will be largely completed by early next quarter."

LG_Fox_Brazil60d ago

All the big ones doing the same stuff. Terrible. I just hope that all these people are able to get a new job as soon as possible, God know that it is horrible to be left jobless when you have your kids or your parents depending on your financial help

Jin_Sakai60d ago (Edited 60d ago )

2024 so far.

Feb ’28 Electronic Arts (EA) 670 (5%)
Feb ’24 PlayStation 900 (8%)
Feb ’24 Vice Media Group Several hundred
Feb ’24 Buzzfeed 16%
Feb ’24 NowThis 26 (50%)
Feb ’24 Paramount Global 800 (3%)
Feb ’24 SiriusXM 160 (3%)
Feb ’24 Snapchat 10%
Jan ’24 TechCrunch 8 + subscription product
Jan ’24 U.K.’s Channel 4 200
Jan ’24 Business Insider 8%
Jan ’24 Microsoft Gaming 1,900
Jan ’24 Riot Games 530
Jan ’24 Sports Illustrated Possibly all
Jan ’24 YouTube 100
Jan ’24 Pitchfork (Conde Nast) Undisclosed
Jan ’24 Universal Music Group Hundreds
Jan ’24 Discord 17%
Jan ’24 NBC News 50-100
Jan ’24 Audible 5%
Jan ’24 Google Hundreds
Jan ’24 Amazon Hundreds
Jan ’24 Duolingo 10%
Jan ’24 VideoAmp 20%

DATA AS OF FEB. 28, 2024

outsider162459d ago

Is it possible maybe this whole ai thing is in play?

just_looken59d ago

Another long list that skips over UPS cutting 12,000 jobs those workers as we know work without ac low pay and old box trucks but that company had to cut 12k jobs do too loosing billions of dollars year 2 year.

https://edition.cnn.com/202...

The greed and lack of transparency/oversight is disgusting.

Ups are still making bang but not enough for a golden boat fleet.

Remember we all use ups at some time even stuff in our stores this is going to be a huge issue gong forward i know in my area they removed half the state ups stores northern half least population got some 3rd party running packages now from minivans.

Sonic188159d ago

When I explan this I get called a troll 🤔 like wtf

thorstein59d ago

@just_looken

UPS is a different story altogether.

They are paying the people doing the actual work/ earning the money more and eliminating management.

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CrimsonWing6960d ago (Edited 60d ago )

You do realize around this time this happens all throughout many industries (not just the game industry), right? It has to do with taxes for these major companies, like tax subsidies for downsizing. You want to know a little secret? Around May or so you’ll see a spike in hiring…

It blows my mind that people are oblivious to corporate workings.

Andrew33659d ago

So over 25 huge companies cut jobs every year like this and it only got noticed this time?

CrimsonWing6959d ago (Edited 59d ago )

@Andrew336

Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying. Google it up if you’re uninformed of how corporations work. Only gamers seem to live in a bubble and when they see things like crunch, acquisitions, and lay-offs they act like this is the only industry it happens to and how shocked they are about it.

Welcome to the real world, kid.

thorstein59d ago (Edited 59d ago )

EA CEO Wilson's total compensation was 20 million. Let's take away 19 million (I'm sure he can survive on 1 million.... somehow).

1 million is the salary of an in the chair developer @100,000 for 10 years.

He could earn 1 million a year.

And save the jobs of 15 in the chair devs for A DECADE (plus benefits) with ONE YEAR'S compensation.

RhinoGamer8860d ago

No Executive accountability or firings I see...

just_looken59d ago

Do not worry they will take over 40mill say sorry then get hired by playstation or xbox

blackblades59d ago

I heard Japan does it better, they do layoffs like what's happening with companies in the west. The higher ups also being agreeing to to lower there own salary. These MFs like jim and Phil isnt gonna do that they want that $

Sonic188160d ago

Like I said earlier, this is happening all around the gaming industry.

Petebloodyonion60d ago

The point I feel is problematic about all of this is that focusing on Owned Ip means more sequels, remasters and more of what was selling last year.

TheColbertinator59d ago

EA is certainly among the worst,if not the worst

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