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PlayDevil hands-on: Did we connect with Kinect?

PlayDevil has had a hands-on session with Microsoft's Kinect, which will be released in November.

Did we like the new hardware? Were the games gimmicky Wii rip-offs? How's the lag? Kinect has a lot of potential, but read our full article for why we think the launch games aren't great.

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btk5011d ago

Potential - well - that is something that we will have to see in the future.
As it is it is a very expensive EyeToy.

Funny how many articles / reviews hint at future potential when admitting the present mediocre lineup.

commodore645010d ago

funny how this situation exactly mirrors the ps3 when it was launched...

nickjkl5010d ago

ps3 had potential that no one wanted to see

kinect has very very limited potential what so ever

OSU_Gamer5010d ago (Edited 5010d ago )

Right now Kinect is not worth it, but to say that is has no potential is ignorant.

You can't base a new system on launch titles because that system hasn't been fully utilized. What is to say that the programming techniques that are similar to the ones used during the life a console to make better looking and performing games cannot be used to improve games for Kinect?

R2D25010d ago (Edited 5010d ago )

I still havent Kinected but also still have not lost hope that it can be used for better things than what MS has shown so far.

rockleex5010d ago (Edited 5010d ago )

Kinect will run into the same exact problems that plagued the Eyetoy.

The same exact problems that kept the Eyetoy from being used in full core gaming experiences.

The same exact problems where after a certain point, you realize that you just NEED controller inputs.

All the same reasons which makes PS Move the best candidate for motion control gaming.

Controller input: Check
Camera input: Check
Motion input: Check
Head tracking: Check
Body tracking: Check
Voice recognition: Check
Age/gender/facial features recognition: Check
Precision and unnoticeable lag: Check

Wii Motion Plus + Kinect = PS Move
Best of both worlds.

Nathaniel_Drake5010d ago

You are right the PS3 was a de-evolved version of the last gen systems /s

Bigpappy5010d ago

But we shall see what happens when Kinect is released in November.

tiamat55010d ago (Edited 5010d ago )

The PS3 worked from the beginning. No one wanted to see it's potential at all even though it was obviously worth the price. Where were the PS3 defense articles back then? Suddenly there are so many articles defending Microsoft's piece of retro junk as if our lives depend on it .

OSU_Gamer5010d ago (Edited 5010d ago )

The PS3 was not worht $600 at launch for me (therefore I did not buy it then). The hardware individually may be worth $600 but good hardware with nothing to use it for doesn't justify $600. A minimal BluRay selection and a few good launch titles was not enough.

I bought my PS3 when it dropped to $400 and I have never looked back.

If then we had the PS3 games and BluRay movies that we have now the system would be worth more than $600.

I think the same goes for Kinect. ITs not worth $150 now, but if it develops into something better with good games, it may one day warrant the $150 price tag.

As to all the articles that defend one system over the other...its the media...what else is there to say?

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absolutecarnage5010d ago

Hence, Usually we won't know how good this thing will be until at least a year or so more, once developers have more time to see what works, what doesn't and what type of games the people want

DarkTower8055010d ago

The Powerglove for NES had potential too lol. Seriously though, there is potential in the hardware, but so far there is no software that can support it. I think to fully realize this it would take more computing power than the current 360 can afford.

atlys5009d ago

I think to fully realize this it would take more computing power than the current 360 can afford.

although i disagree with this statement, i'll still vote to bubble up cause you realize its the software that has issues, not the device, i.e. kinect. Honestly, computational power is wasted in game consoles. We're talking about cpu's that are used to run servers that run multiple applications for multiple users at once, but in a console they're only asked to run one application for one user. The power just needs to be better utilized.

Dorfdad5010d ago

I am skeptical of both the move and Kinect more so Kinect as we have seen this time and time again that add-ons are released only to be focused on for 3-4 months than fade from developers minds.

Granted both of these will see more releases than the eye-toy did (damn you Sony) but until they ship with the system they will never be the primary focus.

asyouburn5010d ago

my 150 dollars has more "potential" than kinect

Qui-Gon Jim5010d ago

A preview that doesn't feel the need to say "our hands-on, or should we say hands-off, impressions".

Quadrix5010d ago

"In the future, I can see great uses for the system, especially in ‘Better with Kinect’ branded games, that will use a joypad and the camera to improve the gameplay of titles- imagine playing Call of Duty- the way it should be played- with a joypad, but throwing grenades using your arm, or looking around the cockpit of your vehicle in Forza by just turning your head whilst driving."

Except then you wouldn't be looking at the TV, genius. >_>

Qui-Gon Jim5010d ago

Humans can turn their eyes independent of their heads. Head tracking like that usually uses exaggerated responses, i.e. turn your head a little bit (while keeping your eyes on the screen), and your view in-game moves a lot.

Denethor_II5010d ago

The only two positive things they say are "imagine throwing a grenade " what and get shot whilst I'm flailing my arm about ? And secondly, "imagine looking around your car in Forza" This has already been demoed with GT5 and failed to see the necessity? Full price for the use of your imagination? That pretty much sums up this shoody product

DelbertGrady5010d ago

With subtle movements you would, genius.

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The Best Selling Xbox 360 Games of all Time

Want to know what the the best selling Xbox 360 games of all time are? Well look no further, as we delve deep into this consoles' catalogue.

jznrpg203d ago

This list will never change

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Joy Ride Turbo - The Beginning of the End for Xbox Kinect

Joy Ride Turbo launched 10 years ago today. The first title was Xbox Kinect exclusive, yet this sequel failed to support the device at all.

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10 of the Biggest Video Game Hardware Failures Ever

Cultured Vultures: "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal, and no matter how much developers might try, some gaming hardware just fails to hit the mark. We’ve compiled a list of 10 gaming hardware fails, and boy did some fail hard."

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Knightofelemia828d ago

I would label the Power Glove, Kinect, and that Tony Hawk skateboard more as hardware addons hardware failure would be like the Virtual Boy and one day Stadia.

Magog828d ago

Kinect was bundled with every Xbox One and inflated the price on an already underpowered and low RAM machine so for the One it wasn't an accessory as much as a white elephant.

CaptainHenry916828d ago (Edited 828d ago )

Definitely the RROD but that power glove had a lot of issues as well. The Kinect just didn't work

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CrimsonWing69828d ago

Hardware add-ons are more like RAM or a video card, basically components that enhance capabilities or performance of the computer.

If you really want to get technical the Kinect is more of a peripheral device, kind of like a keyboard or mouse to a computer.

ThatsGaming827d ago

The person in this article obviously is not up on their gaming history....

Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Coleco Gemini, Commodore 128, Commodore Amiga, Atari 5200, Atari 7800 were all massive failures and in most cases cost their companies participating in future gaming generations.

Gamer79827d ago

Sega saturn (successful in Japan) and dreamcast were not failures.
Seems like you're not up on you're gaming history

septemberindecember827d ago

@Gamer79

How in the world are the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast not seen as failures? They both sold around 8M each, which is much lower than the ~30M that the Genesis had sold before it, and even the Master System before that. They were both the worst selling consoles in their respective generation (PS1, N64 outsold Saturn, PS2, GC, and Xbox outsold Dreamcast). Both of the consoles were incredibly short lived. The Saturn was discontinued in every territory but Japan after just three years. In Japan the console was discontinued after six years. Meanwhile the Dreamcast was discontinued worldwide in 2001 after launching in most territories in 1999 and in Japan in 1998. The failure of the Saturn and Dreamcast lead to Sega pulling out of the hardware market. Which, by the way, all of this occurred when Sega was massively dropping the price of their consoles quickly to compete. Sega was hemorrhaging money at this point.

None of this indicates a successful console. Saying the Saturn was a success because it did better in Japan is like saying the Vita is a success (they both sold around the same amount of units in Japan). Even the Wii U outsold these consoles worldwide.

Magog828d ago

The picture should be the 360 RROD. When I think of gaming hardware failures that's what springs to mind. Kinect and it's bundled price tag definitely hobbled the already underpowered Xbox One though for sure so I would give it a close second place.

porkChop828d ago (Edited 828d ago )

That's not what the author means by failures. It's about hardware that failed in terms of sales (Wii U) or just failed to deliver on its promise (Kinect).

Magog828d ago (Edited 828d ago )

Given that the 360 had a year head start, much easier hardware to develop for, was cheaper, and still ended up in third place I think it qualifies especially when you factor in the frustration and huge losses incurred by RROD.

porkChop827d ago

Selling over 80 million consoles isn't a sales flop. We get it, you don't like Xbox, but that doesn't mean the 360 is suddenly a failure.

Rhythmattic827d ago

Porky....
You know how many people I know bought a 2nd or third 360 due to RROD? Even when MS had to confront the issue with replacement systems, my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in, and waiting for a replacement.,,..,..
If that's how you consider it a win... OK.. but so is having 5 , of which 3 don't function.... Its a win win....mwhahahahaha

porkChop827d ago

"my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in"

You're acting like it would take months. When I sent my 360 in I got a new one literally 5 days later. As soon as MS had tracking confirmation that you sent yours, they'd send a new one to you the same day. No one is going to spend hundreds to buy a new console instead of waiting a week. I swear you guys pull some of the dumbest shit out of nowhere and think people will actually believe it.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about.

Rhythmattic826d ago (Edited 826d ago )

Porky
"You're acting like it would take months"
Sometimes it could.. FFS.. 'Strya here...
Best turnaround I reckon was 2-3 weeks.....
Either way, My mates experiences still exist.. So Sorry, no point trying to earn Xbox Achievements when it doesn't feature in what was a situation you never dealt with,,,,
3 of my friends would disagree (overall, 10 extra Xboxes purchased)
Regardless.. MS sold a lot of 360's that was due to this reason.. That is sales. Fact

"none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about."
Headline says HELLO !
Oh and "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal," that's enough to pass this on without taking your article bias into consideration.....
As for the rest.... Ok.. But you've actually gone out of your way to give MS a Pass... Fap on.

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Aloymetal827d ago (Edited 827d ago )

Yup, and because of that big fiasco MS had to fork out 1 billion but knowing them I think they're very proud of the 360, it's the only time a MS console reached 80mil+ sales, RROD played a big part of that and a record they will never break again.

Rhythmattic827d ago (Edited 827d ago )

So true.. Even when MS accepted they where caught out in the biggest lie of any generation, The wait for a replacement was outweighed by just buying another, and having one be returned as a backup, which, btw, generally failed on first swap.
I own honestly can't believe MS tards are just supporting , or arguing why and what MS did by just dismissing it....

lonewolf10828d ago

Lol I had the Atari Jaguar, surprised its "competition" the 3DO isn't on the list too, both as "popular" as each other.

SullysCigar828d ago

Lol same. Played the crap out of Aliens Vs Predator and Tempest 2000 .... aaand that's about it really!!

lonewolf10828d ago

Sad but true that was pretty much it.

Kurt Russell827d ago

Agreed, I never actually saw a 3DO make it to retailers in the UK. At least the Atari Jaguar was sold for around 6 months.

lonewolf10827d ago

It made it to some my brother got one, fared just as well as the Jaguar so most probably hard to find in general.

darthv72827d ago

3do had way better games. Jaguar not so much. Neo Geo sold less than both and yet isnt considered a failure. Go figure.

LWOGaming828d ago

Stadia is a weird one. It hasn’t sold at all well but in terms of how it works it’s still miles ahead of Xcloud in terms of stability and performance. Xcloud is still a way behind and that needs sorting but it will be in time. Stadia for me is one of those things that will go down as a what could have been moments. With better marketing it could have been a roaring success. I still play it and it remains the best place in my opinion to play CyberPunk 2077. Only platform I have played it on without having any issues at all. The tech is great. The concept is fine. Marketing terrible. Shame really.

Magog827d ago

The sales model was awful. They should have teamed with an existing player to allow for local and cloud access to games or a gaming subscription service.

LWOGaming827d ago

It was a strange mess from such a huge company, as I said, as a system it works really well but without gamers it’s nothing. Such a waste,

LWOGaming828d ago

The Xbox One was Microsoft’s Nintendo Wii U. Undercooked, undersold and just an unholy mess. The thing is with any of these failures is to learn from them and thankfully both Nintendo and Xbox did just that to the benefit of gamers everywhere.

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