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Rare 'attacking' Nintendo's Wii Sports dominance

Rare has refused to shy away from the obvious comparisons between Nintendo's Wii Sports and its own Kinect Sports - admitting that it's 'attacking' its new competition 'head on'.

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DORMIN5023d ago

What in the hell happened to Rare?

As someone who lived through their awesome games like Goldeneye, PD, Conker, Banjo in the N64 days. This is like watching gold turn into coal. WTF did Microsoft do to them =/

TheTeam065023d ago

Rare is like the cranky old man sitting on his front porch throwing rocks at kids and remeniscing about the days he was a 5-time World Series champ.

Times have changed =(

D4RkNIKON5023d ago (Edited 5023d ago )

That is the best analogy.

Seems RARE prefers Imitation over Innovation.

rroded5023d ago (Edited 5023d ago )

so sad that such a great development team has been made into this. I blame ms tho those who sold their souls to em n stayed on are jus as much to blame. Now here they are making second rate Wii knockoffs n trying to defend it. Those who remember the ol days might b shedding a tear like me right now. But most probably dont care to them your just another failed dev team.

D4RkNIKON5023d ago

^ it's funny too because MS and their fanboys are proud of Rare

DelbertGrady5023d ago (Edited 5023d ago )

Cause Sports Champion is nothing like Wii Sports...

At least RARE are decent enough people to admit they are trying to steal Wii Sports spot.

likedamaster5023d ago

Just started playing Kameo again. Game holds up quite well. Why no Kameo 2? Still love ya Rare. Give us something juicy besides this casual-ware soon though, please.

AngryFork5023d ago (Edited 5023d ago )

@ darknikon, they tried doing something "innovative"/new with stuff like Banjo and that other game on 360, but it didn't sell well and people kept shitting on them for not being classic platformers and so on.

I haven't even played the games just seen lots of videos of them. I feel bad for the rep that Rare gets. They don't really have a choice in what they make anymore. I bet you if Microsoft allowed them to do what they wanted with a 20 million$ budget or whatever, and with atleast 2 years devtime they'd make something that the fans really want. Rare isn't what they used to be but I don't necessarily think that's because they've fallen off, they still have lots of talented people there it just seems like they kept rushing games out or they didn't have a clear focus on what they wanted to do. (Or Microsoft forcing them to do crap like this sports stuff).

IdleLeeSiuLung5023d ago

"Seems RARE prefers Imitation over Innovation."

So can you tell me what games are innovative? I don't think I seen any in ages... Most games are just a copy of the previous one with some minor changes that make some significant difference. I have yet to see a game that has fundamentally changed anything.

captain-obvious5023d ago

@Soda Popinsky

ummm no
this game ( http://www.gamespot.com/ps2... came out even befor the wii
check your info

absolutecarnage5023d ago

everybody has a short memory Rare stated about a month ago that they had something else coming and i have a feeling it will be at this next game conference

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MicroSony4Life5023d ago (Edited 5023d ago )

Donkey Kong and Golden Eye - so I would take them head on as well.

Dude I know DK is a NINTENDO game, I remember jumping barrels with Mario.

My point was that Rare made Donkey Kong what is was back in the Super Nintendo/64 era.

yewles15023d ago

DONKEY KONG??? XD *nothing to say--too priceless*

DlocDaBudSmoka5023d ago

is a nintendo baby. if anything NINTY loaned DK to them.

ebgeer5023d ago (Edited 5023d ago )

I understand what you are saying....Rare didnt make donkey Kong...but they did make Donkey Kong Country for the 64 while it being published by Nintendo. I get it.

And yeah..Rare was awesome..now they suck...oh well..its not the first dev to shit the bed.

Cheeseknight285023d ago

Retro Studios made the Metroid franchise into a well-recognized and critically acclaimed series, but you can't seriously expect for them to just receive that franchise if they were to split away from Nintendo and join say, Activision do you?

The comparisons are pretty much identical. Donkey Kong had some games before, some great ones (The original) as did Metroid (Super Metroid) but Rare / Retro Studios reinvented each respective franchise.

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LoaMcLoa5023d ago

Microsoft probably chopped their balls off

Red Panda5023d ago

They killed Banjo & Kazooie. I hate them.

tinybigman5022d ago

and make a game that actually matters today. why do you think nintendo let you go?

Megaton5022d ago

The downfall of Rare is really tragic. They were one of the best developers in gaming history. Now they're just cranky and talentless. They're gonna end up burning their legacy.

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tunaks15023d ago

I hope by attacking they don't mean copying in every way possible.

yewles15023d ago

Anybody prepared a euligy yet for Rare?

xchris92x5023d ago

Could be fun for a while. Hopefully Rare have a hardcore game in development though.

kissmeimgreek5023d ago

Cmon Killer Instinct and Conker 2!!!

cult_of_N5021d ago

i miss killer instinct too...

oldjadedgamer5023d ago

about as likely as a new sega console

MRHARDON5023d ago

I hope Microsoft pulls the plug on Rare.

Then we will see who's laughing.

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How Many More Victims, Like Garry's Mod, Will Nintendo's Hurtful Crusade Create?

Hanzala from eXputer: "As Nintendo takes out 20 years' worth of stuff from Garry's Mod, I watch in shock, thinking why it continues to hurt and discourage its fans."

RiseNShine1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

The irony that some of the most disgusting business practices come from companies like Disney or Nintendo, i can't even begin to understand what terrible damage was Garrys Mod making to Nintendo bottom line, imho they're getting pretty nervous about where they're heading in the future, handhelds are no longer something exclusive to Nintendo, from Steam Deck to many others, now you can play the latest games and pay a fraction of the price on Steam sales, so it's up to their exclusives, which just on their own would make hard to justify purchasing a closed overpriced hardware with outrageous price policies (Super Mario Odyssey is still 60 euro 6 years later!), and as a home console they're always underperforming compared to Sony or Xbox.

gold_drake23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

i cam guarantee you, that their exclusives alone is what drives switch sales. they sell in the 10s of millions of copies.

nintendo created their franchises to be sort of nostalgia driven, exclusive only on nintendo.

people will always buy the pkmn games as they always bring in new younger fans amd is family friendly

mario kart, the same thing, mario games in general.

zelda games are system sellers. animal crossing for the casual gamers.

nintendo doesnt need third vame devs essentially. they made sure with the switch and the limitations that they looked more to pc ps and xbox.

its sad, but nintendo is more than fine with what they're doing. they positioned themselves to appeal to the more casual gamers.

but to your point, im not sure why they're doing this rly.

Inverno21h ago

Look at how they handled Nintendo games being streamed or uploaded on YouTube in the past. They killed Yuzu and Citra even when they had nothing to do with ToTK being leaked, not to mention it was basically unplayable on emulation the week it was leaked. Smash Bros tournament, that was fairly recent. They shut down their online services without any care for purchases made. I bought a switch after skipping their last 2 consoles and handhelds but I don't plan on buying anything Nintendo in the future. They take things to the extremes, they legitimately hate their fans. They're honestly right up there with the likes of Acti, EA, and Ubi, only difference is that they disguise themselves as being family friendly all the while being shady.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10121d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref21d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde21d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197221d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville21d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218320d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos20d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai21d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref21d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan21d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00720d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197221d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197221d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref21d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde21d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197221d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197221d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier20d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto21d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218320d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto20d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman21d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts21d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts20d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic20d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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