Bungie ready for PS4, Xbox 720

Bungie is creating its new, post-Halo action series with the next generation of consoles front of mind.

[izuna]

They can remind me when it's the next generation, chances are I'll be old and have forgotten about this by then.

[Christopher]

So... we'll see their next game 4-5 years from now?

[shoddy]

Silly bungie.

[DeadlyFire]

I don't think 2012 is that far away.

[Christopher]

@DeadlyFire: Unlikely that the next PS3 will be out until 2014.

[DeadlyFire]

I must disagree. Another slim PS3 will likely be out before 2014.

I highly doubt that noone is gonna announce a new console generation until 2014. Even if it does indeed launch around 2014. It will be known by end of 2012. It is most likely PS4 to launch in 2012/2013 and not 2014. Microsoft will plan for 2014 console launch, but they will be ready to move it around. We will see at E3 2011/2012 if I am right. Sony's Line up is settled in right now for at least another year or two of solid games. You have to keep the game line ups in mind as well. Nintendo should be aiming at 2012/2013 as well.

You have to keep in mind 2010/2011 was the original date for the next generation of consoles to come about anyway. Until they decided to push it all backwards for Motion idea.

Besides all that though just cuz they say they will be Next-generation ready. Could just mean they have signed a deal with someone for a high dollar multiplatform game engine. UE 4? CE 4? CE 3?

[Christopher]

***I must disagree. Another slim PS3 will likely be out before 2014. ***

Sorry, in my previous post I meant to say the PS4, not the next PS3.

***It is most likely PS4 to launch in 2012/2013 and not 2014. Microsoft will plan for 2014 console launch, but they will be ready to move it around. ***

It's more likely that we'll see the next generation xbox before the next generation PS. At the earliest we would see a PS in 2013 following their standard 10-year plan and release schedule for their consoles, though most say this generation will be longer than the typical generations due to cost and level of technical advancements. Microsoft, on the other hand, has had shorter release periods and released a year earlier as it is. I say late 2012 or early 2013 for the next xbox, late 2013 or early 2014 for the next PS.

Regardless of their current development into the next generation of consoles, it's unlikely that they will use any technology made prior to 2011 in them and are working mostly with the various hardware manufacturers towards the planned concepts to be used in the next console generation (Nvidia, ATI, Intel, etc.).

+bubs for good convo.

[ExplosionSauce]

That gave me the lulz :P
_____

Anyways, who's to say when the next generation of consoles will come.
My guess is around 2014 as well.

[AAACE5]

Next gen will start next year!

I expect Nintendo and maybe MS to announce their new console at E3 2011. MS may decide to announce in 2012 though. Sony will announce in 2012 or 2013. The Ps3 and Ps4 will be on the market at the same time. Maybe 2014 for Ps4.

You may doubt this, but if Nintendo and MS hit the market with something that looks better than what the Ps3 offers... and at a decent price... the Ps4 will have to come early!

But then again, as unpredictable as things have been, we might see something totally different in the future!

[TEFL0N_D0N_81]

As much as I want my investments (PS3 60gb, PS3 Slim, Xbox 360, Xbox 360 Arcade) to last, I wouldn't mind a fresh console with stunning graphics. Gotta "try" and catch up to PC more often than 10 years. That's just ridiculous. I'm not a graphics whore, but if I can see the nipple rings on Marcus Fenix, I'd be happy.

[zeeshan]

Well it seems they will have to wait to get their hands on PS4 as I am almost dead sure that X720 and Wii 2 will be available in the market before PS4 hits.

[NIRVANArazor]

well most developers get their hands on new tech way before its actually out.

[raztad]

I prefer them to be ready for THIS gen.

[BeaArthur]

I just prefer they do what they do. This generation, next generation, doesn't matter to me. I have full faith in Bungie no matter what they decide to do with their new IP.

[Faztkiller]

BeaArthur great comment I couldn't agree more

[bjornbear]

I'd like to see what else they can do. Same goes for Guerrilla Games! I love FPS and all but with such amazing talents these guys could easily pull off another genre!

[R2D2]

The PS3 and 360 generation will last for ten years - I cant wait that long, I want my Bingie fix by 2012.

I think what will happen is that Nintendo will release the Wii 2 next year and become an instant hit with the harcore and casuals - forceing Sony and MS to eat those 10 year words.

[FragMnTagM]

I think the ten year thing will be much like the PS2 and PS3. The 360 and PS3 may be supported for ten years, but I bet anything the new consoles will come out by then.

I mean think about it, by 2015 and 2016, there will be so much new technology that has passed, I doubt the current console gen will last that long as far as full support. My money is on Wii 2 in Christmas 2011, XBOX 720 2012, and PS3 in 2013.

[D4RkNIKON]

I just don't see what it is about Bungie that every one loves so much because I never had an interest in Halo. What else have they done that I might have heard about? What makes them such a big deal?

I am looking for an honest answer and not trying to troll.

[BeaArthur]

D4RkNIKON...so you assume that because you don't like Halo that nobody else does either? That's like me saying, I just don't see what it is about Media Molecule that every one loves so much because I never had an interest in Little Big Planet. Do you see how that works? Just because you don't see what makes Bungie great developers doesn't mean they aren't.

[MicroSony4Life]

I dont think its mostly about HALO but BUngie them selfs. They treat there fanbase like kings and always listen to what fans want - when you get a chance I advise you to check the Bungie website and read some of the forums - a bungie member is always present and is excited about gaming as much as us.

I think Bungie, Naught Dog, Media Molecule, Bioware, Sucker Punch are the few developers that will always hold a place in my heart as Gaming Heroes.

[theonlylolking]

I want the next xbox to come out so the PS3 can be pushed even farther.

I dont care about the nintendos consoles taht much.

[izuna]

Why?

@nickjl: don't be silly, he can't be that stupid.
@The real killer: each system is able to do things better than the other, yeah, exclusive PlayStation 3 games do look better. I can't wait for RAGE to come out and shit over all over your ridiculous mindset.

@Thecraft1989: sorry for being old fashioned, but I don't give that much of a shit about graphics when it comes to playing games. The "unlimited" storage of the PlayStation's Blu-ray discs doesn't make its games have better gameplay.

[Thecraft1989]

multiplats are getting hold up by the 360 it needs to die or Microsoft need bring new console out. If you have not noticed most devs complain about dvd no standard hdd rock star think its problem pgr4 devs thought it was problem Ea complained

Izunin lol I cant wait for rage to come out because it going to be same fate Alan wake it will low res 30fps on 360. Remedy promised 720p 60fps best grahpics on console but them realised after 5-6 years its not possible.

Izunin
I remember trusting Remedy Iam willing to bet my life it will downgrades and will not run 720p or 60fps and iam willing to bet life on it.

lowcarb What are these games are you comparing multiplats that are ported over to ps3 ? becuase thats only games you can compare no 360 exlcusive better ps3 exclusive fact.

poopface1 They may have allready but what you fail understand is that can change I will belive it when it when its gold.

[lowcarb]

Yet having all those limitations the 360 version of many games still outperform the PS3 on 1 disc. Not saying it's more powerful but your logic and reasoning are out of whack.

[izuna]

RAGE is supposed to run 60fps, and HD on all three platforms (PC, PS3, 360). I definitely trust Mr. Carmack more than I trust what your fanboy stupidity arse says.

[poopface1]

like RDR, ohh wait, the Ps3 version was sub hd.

As for rage, they already got he 360 version running at 60 FPS, its the unseen ps3 version that people are worried about.

[doshey]

thecraft sounds like he has sand in his vagina

[WLPowell]

There's nothing impressive about rage, yeah it runs at 60 FPS, to bad the animations are weak and the AI is ass. That's like assuming Dante's Inferno was better than God of War 3 becauase DI had a higher frame rate. It means nothing if the game itself is unimpressive, it's an empty argument that PC fanboys made a big deal out of, yet they also don't have many games to brag about, just that they're crap is smooth.

Poopface: yeah RDR was sub-HD, because Rockstar's engine that they used work (somewhat) well on the 360 (barely hitting HD on the 360 so so much for your great example) and it doesn't play well with the PS3. Now explain why we have yet to see a game on the 360 that can touch Uncharted 1.

[Kurt Russell]

Because Uncharted 1 was a shit pile and nobody wants to touch it with a 10 yard barge pole...

[nickjkl]

hes implying the ps3 is as power as the next xbox

and that the 360 is holding the ps3 back

[bjornbear]

I don't want to put words in his mouth, as you are, but I interpret what he says as:

If next xbox comes out, it WILL be more powerful than the PS3 ( that would be the point ) but it will cause the PS3 devs to make THE BEST games possible (stress to meet demands)

this will take place a year before the PS4 im guessing.

[edhe]

*clap clap.

It's nice of you to interpret the foolish :)

[theonlylolking]

No I am not. I am saying the PS3 will be pushed farther not next xbox power. You people are so defensive.

[The real killer]

Becouse the PS3 is hell of a power beast.
Also the PS3 is two or mebay three time powerfull as the 360 with a powerfull engine.

Becouse that multiplatforms holding back the PS3, you need really look games like Killzone 3 and all upcomming games for the PS3 ;) Than you can ask by your self again.
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"each system is able to do things better than the other, yeah, exclusive PlayStation 3 games do look better. I can't wait for RAGE to come out and shit over all over your ridiculous mindset"

Yeah, that's a pitty answer of yours. Man look at those game's like Killzone 2/Uncharted 2 or even GOW3, no single 360 multiplat or first studio from MS can't touch them.

Further more, the PS3 use hell allot more new hardware than 360.
The facts is is that the PS3 is two time powerfull than the 360 and you can't see no big different each year on MS console while you can see big different like Killzone 3, killzone 3 beat Uncharted 2/Killzone 2 or GOW3 easy...........until another first studio will outperform Killzone 3, the PS3 has the potential, the 360 has not the potential, becouse it laks proseccing power from CPU/GPU/RAM speed and Blu-ray capacity.

So, hold your tongue ;)

Funny all those 360 fanboy can't stand the facts and they get mad and clicking on the disagrees. Very funny.

[Lord_Doggington]

haha 2-3x powerfull ...llllllllllllllllllllllllll lol

shuttup

[XactGamer]

Bubbles Lord_Doggington that was funny. Careful when you stand that close to a troll they are contagious.

[Convas]

What're you smoking? At MOST, I'd say the PS3 has 50% more power simply because of THE CELL. The Cell takes over some of the work of the SPU and free up more processes for Devs like ND and GG to work with.

And Blu-Ray gives the devs more space to store the game data. That's it. 2 advantages. + Free PSN.

[poopface1]

ahahahhahahahaha. PS3 fanboys believe the stupidest things.

HAhaHHAHAHA, this comment section is full of clueless little PS3rd fanboys.

Why is the PS3 version of RDR sub HD, and the 360 version is HD? Must be the power of the cell.

EDit- HAHAhAh the raging PS3 fanboy, killer, sent me a PM filled with broken English. Sorry kid, your made up crap is so far from being fact.

[edhe]

"becouse it laks proseccing power from CPU/GPU/RAM speed and Blu-ray capacity"

Nuff said. Really.

[XactGamer]

In reality the PS3 is maybe 5% more but the lack of ram for the PS3 even them out. The Cell is one mean chip if you can speak alien. The GPU in the 360 still has lots of horse power but Bluray gives an advantage in space but the drive speed is slow.

See how the even out, both are on par with one another but they do not compare to my PC. Now my PC is about 10x more than the PS3 and 360 combined.

@raztad then why is GTAIV, Red Dead, Bioshock and MGS4 sub HD on the PS3? See how that argument can go back and forth? On PC however there are no sub HD games.

[raztad]

@poopface

Interesting question. However, I have another for you:

Why is FFXIII sub-hd in the xbox and

AW almost SD? I'm specially interested in AW, which is an exclusive game, being developed during 5 years on the supposedly easy to develop for xbox, and yet it failed to deliver. A similar game in the PS3 would have ran EASILY at 720p no screen tearing.

I'd like a single xboy to answer that question. I really want to know what do you think.

"In reality the PS3 is maybe 5% more but the lack of ram for the PS3 even them out."

LOL that sounds very scientific. NO. It sounds made up. Where did you get that 5%? and PS3 memory is 512= 256+256.

[FragMnTagM]

but that post is pure classic fanboy BS! The PS3 is not much more powerful than the 360. In fact, the GPU in the 360 shits on GPU of the PS3. You have no idea about what hardware is in the systems obviously if you think that.

If the 360 had Blu Ray, the games would look equal or a little bit better. That is really is the only thing that holds the 360 back other than the slightly more powerful CPU.

I know you probably won't look at these links because you are in denial land, but here you go: http://journal.pcvsconsole....

There a couple things the RSX does better, but for the most part the 360 has a more powerful GPU. Likewise, the Cell is quite a bit more powerful than the XENON in the 360, but the XENON does a few things better. This current console generation is far closer than the PS2 to Original XBOX gap. That didn't stop the PS2 from putting out some truly great looking and great playing games towards the end of it's life.

Stop being such a fanboy, is it really necessary? You are obviously not a gamer and just like to troll. I can enjoy games on any platform irregardless of power or brand if the games are good. The fact is 360 has plenty of great games and so does the PS3, that is why I have both. The Wii and PC have some awesome games too, that is why I have them too... Why be so stupid and harsh all the time. You do know that people that are mean all the time tend to live a lot less longer, right? Being a happy and kind soul ads years to your life.

[Hotel_Moscow]

well technically

if you use final fantasy as a bar

the 360 version was dumbed down even though the crystal engine only used 4 of the 6 spus and wasnt exactly pushing the ps3 to its limits

then you look at killzone 3

which runs close to the resolution of the 360s best looking game alan wake while rendering each frame twice with higher AA and its in pre alpha

god of war apparently used only 50 percent of the power santa monica engine is capable of and that had a higher AA and res than most 360 games

@ frag obviously new to the technical side of the ps3 which uses the cell processor (CPU) to do work that the rsx gpu can do making that whole post of youres rendered useless

blu ray has nothing to do with graphics only thing it does is aloow for more things to be implemented in game

and then you say this generation is closer than the ps2 gap if im not mistaken they were both doing 480i

and this generation the 360 can hardly do 720p while the ps3 is capable

[DaBadGuy]

What the hell? Are you four? "the PS3 has the potential, the 360 has not the potential, becouse it laks proseccing power from CPU/GPU/RAM speed and Blu-ray capacity." No wonder you got so many disagrees, even the ps3 fanboys don't want to side with your dumbass.

[raztad]

@Xactgamer

RDR was already mentioned by poopface1. I know the argument can go back and forth, thats is why I asked about FFXIII.

I would say there is a pattern in PS3 exclusive games. They improve in every iteration. MGS4 was sub-hd but that is so 2008. Fast Forward a bit a you will find KZ2 and beyond.

Multiplats are another tale. It is very well known multis for the most part perform better on the xbox. However multi platform development is by no means the best way to measure console power, considering most games are just ports from one console to the other.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

+1 bub lord~!

[Lord_Doggington]

he just sent me a nigerian-letter-scam-broken-en glish message too. get this guy outta here

[Snoogins]

The reason why GTA IV, RDR and other games don't fair as well on PS3 as 360 isn't due to an inherent weakness of the PS3, but due to a lack of engine optimization and a laziness on part of the developers themselves. When the CELL is properly utilized, spreading the processing and calculation tasks to the SPUs, the RAM can be properly used to provide what we've seen only through the exclusives on the PS3. However, very few developers actually do this (or even have an incentive to do so beyond a job well-done), though, admittedly, a poor job on porting a title is why I either skip the game or wait until it is at great discount.

His argument is that the "inferiority" of the 360 is holding back the multiplatform development on PS3, and that a more superior XBOX development would automatically benefit development on the PS3. It's possible, but then, depending on the architecture of the next generation XBOX, developers would still have to consider the alien development aspect of the CELL, its SPUs, and divided RAM.

[hoops]

Real Killer you're stupid. Stop posting on N4G.COM.

[hoops]

Good god Real Killer can you suffer anymore forms of full motion retardation? You are truely related to Sarah Palin.
3 TIMES as powerful? LOL.
If you pull numbers alone its not that. You mention RAM and GPU in your PS3 Fanboy rant but fail to realize that those are the strengths of the XBOX360 over the PS3.
Please do not say the 5 year old RSX (7800GTX) is superior to the GPU inside the XBOX360 or that SPLIT memory pools is better than a unifed memory interface. If you do, you will finally prove that you're a dumbass. Which we know you are. THIS is why you get the most disagrees than any other person on this site.
Take a hint Real Stupid. YOU know SQUAT about hardware. Stop posting!!!

Edit:

If you post hardware specs of the PS3 to show Real Killer is a moron...he will then private message you how those specs are not the final specs and they have changed...LOL
Even if you link him to Nvidia's site and show him the link for the RSX and the specs...Real Killer will tell you those are lies that its not a Geforce class 7, (5 year old GPU that does not even support HDR+AA at the same time)
I know this because you should see the amount of private messages he sends me that are BS...then I ask him for links to back his statements...Then he says..."I dont have any but my mate told me its true. He work at Nvidia..."
No shit he says this. LOL

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[NYC_Gamer]

for what?if the next xbox came out right now i'm sure it would be way more powerful than ps3...games would still have to be cut down..

[Qui-Gon Jim]

A person who cares only about his console of choice defeating the other guys.

[edhe]

"A fool who cares/believes only that only their console of choice is superior to the competition."

[dannybohy]

ive only just got an xbox!!

[gedapeleda]

Sorry for you

[Thecraft1989]

really i dont want them making games ps platform they cant even get halo to 720p and really it looks terrible for engine they have had for 5-6 years.

[izuna]

Halo Reach has a new engine, and I'm pretty sure that engine is owned by 343 Industries.

In layman's terms for people who disagree: Bungie won't be using the same engine they used for Halo 3.

[pinkyxyz]

now go make a new game bungie

[Corrwin]

Who have yet to release that uses at least 720p resolution is ready for the next generation?

Interesting... It would be nice to have something as mind-numbingly addictive as Halo on the PS3, I don't deny.

[Thrillhouse]

This generation isn't full of gamers, instead it is filled with resolution whores.

[siyrobbo]

You don't play your games at 600x zoom so you can appreciate each individual pixel? You're missing out

[morventhus]

@Thrillhouse thank god im not the only one who sees this!!!!

[Thecraft1989]

No its full console gamers who where promised HD gaming for this generation If remember rightly Microsoft said this ''We are going to be first company with HD console on the market''

[PELVIC THRUST ACTION]

What about them purdy pixels where the three sixdy shows five percent more with a tiddle bit more claridy an culor? THINK OF THE DIFFERNCES!

[totallysane]

i agree hundred percent with you guys. all these kids cares about anymore is which game looks better. screw all you guys (the other people) i will play mgs1 fifty times before i play any of these shitty games that look 30x better. ill never pick up cod again, cause of how much its been butchered. never picked up halo so i dont care. and really my ps3 has payed for itself the first month i had it. you guys need to stop bitching about the resolution in games AND START FUCKIN PLAYING THEM. enjoy the game for its content and the fun it offers, not just the eye candy. but thats not possible for cod/halo fans they only care about how good there game looks, and if it doesnt look PEEEERFECT then lets hop on the closes game site and bitch about it.

[Corrwin]

I think everybody here blaming fanboys has forgotten that it's Bungie that are ready for the next gen, graphics and all. If they were all about the gameplay, surely they'd be happy in the current gen?

[Dude Dutch]

They must have skipped the Ps3 ...... Staight onto PS4. I did not know it was released yet. Hahaha

[N2G]

i honestly dont care & not looking forward at all to any of their games but if they do make a multiplatform game it better be a decent one not on halo level,i hope they show respect for the pro/serious gamers.

[Newtype]

they weren't even ready for this gen.

[OSU_Gamer]

They have one of the most played multiplayer games (in a clearly multiplayer based console generation) of all time and are about to release a another hugely anticipated game that pretty much maxes out the 360. How were they not prepared? Stop using your hate for the 360 to downplay the accomplishments of Bungie.

[frankymv]

New consoles very, very, very soon.

Fall 2011. its time.

[BeaArthur]

If it was going to be next year we would be aware of them by now. 2012 at the earliest and with the "relaunches" with Move and Kinect I bet it will be even later than 2012.

[frankymv]

Uhhh...

E3 2011 buddy.

If they announce them too early, they will kill off present demand for current gen consoles.

[palaeomerus]

No, if 2011 consoles were inbound we'd have heard about them at E3 2010. The announcement of the HD consoles didn't kill off Xbox or PS2 demand. In fact Xbox was still selling pretty well when MS canned it (because they could not apply economies of scale to the Xbox since they did not own the hardware designs).

[jack_burt0n]

yeah release a new revision of ur console and a $150 add on if ur planning to release a new console the following year!?!

NO

[gedapeleda]

I already want new generation 720p sucks

[Nappa]

The ps3 is as strong as Raditz.Console who's as strong as a Cyberman says what!...The PS4 Will be as strong as my pal Vageta.

[PELVIC THRUST ACTION]

For overt crap posting.

[yamzilla]

this is exactly what we need...high profile devs letting the world know it's TIME!!!

Bring on the new consoles......I am sick of sub HD.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I totally agree. I think next year should be an announcement year for the new console from MS for a 2012 release, Sony would follow suit hopefully in 2012 and make their announcement...

Regardless of how it pans out...its time. Both consoles while incredibly powerful have some major short comings. DVD and a lack of unified HDD have begun to impact the 360 and its clear that MS will need to make a change in the future. They can keep DVD if they choose but they will need a standard hard drive on all consoles to allow for game installs across the board similar to PC. Internal memory also is becoming a factor for both consoles. the 512mb of RAM while good for a while is becoming a choke point. Blu Ray has been a good medium for Sony but the slow disc reads need to improve for next generation. Sony also needs to really step up their game on the programing front. I do believe they are looking at this for next console...but make your hardware developer friendly. It can have all the bells and whistles you want but it NEEDS to be something that your average developer can take advantage of. Programing for the PS3 should be easy, and allow for great games with polish and smooth gameplay from the get go. It shouldn't take 2+ years to master.

[Chestercopperpot]

I think all of you suck...What happened to the fun in all of this? Insatiable ass bastards!!!

[FragMnTagM]

'Gamers' are really starting be idiots. I thought the point was to have fun and escape the troubles of the real world. I, for one, support gaming in any form if it is fun. I don't let things like logos scare me away. Great games are great games.

Even if you don't like or prefer them, they are still great games. You can't change the facts of a game being good. That doesn't stop thousands of internet trolls from trying their damnedest to downplay a game till their blue in the face. Does it change anything? Hell no. Maybe it just makes them feel good inside. I dunno can't explain the logic there, as there is no logic.

+Bubs man I am not one that is insatiable if a game captures my attention and I want to move forward in it, I keep playing it, simple. If I don't like the game I just don't play it, no need to go into a posting for something I don't care about and force my opinions on people.

It reminds me of religious nuts banging on your door all the time despite telling them you are not interested in what they have to say.

[likedamaster]

I agree. I thought this article would take the comments to an optimistic place. You know, like gamers looking forward to a new engine by Bungie along with their next game. Guesses as to how it will look and play. Boy was I wrong.

[gillri]

Halo Reach looks fantastic, especially when you consider the hardware its running on, consoles certainly do get rinsed for all its worth

MY pc for example has hardware 5 or 6 generations ahead of whats in my 360 but its graphics aren't even signifiantly better than Halo Reach's, thats why with console you get so much more value for money

[TrevorPhillips]

Havent they extended the PS3 and 360 because of move and natal..

But I would love to see a new halo game or a new IP game on next gen consoles :)

Halo: Reach - September 14th 2010

[PS360PCROCKS]

Well PS4 and xbox 720 will be announced soon enough. I think both companies will hold off longer this time to announce something since both are doing very well this gen.

PS2 released in 2000
PS3 announced in 2005
PS3 released in 2006/2007

Xbox released in 2001
Xbox 360 announced in 2005
Xbox released in 2006

So by that math I think E3 2012 we will see new machines. That's 7 years since both were announced. 5-6 years since both were released. Plus that gives each company 1 1/2 years before they'll ship (Christmas 2013) So that is a lifecycle of 8 years on xbox and almost 7 years (Europe was 2007) for PS3.

This also perfectly sets up the "10 year plan" since it takes a good year for a console to really take off.

[doshey]

360 was released in 05/06

[The BS Police]

The Xbox 360 was released in 2005.

[PS360PCROCKS]

oh ya oops my bad! you're correct 2005

[hiredhelp]

Did someone mention bungie. ready for 720 ps4. wake me when theres some real news.from a proper developer.that doesnt live in space for the past many years.

[Skynetone]

ill join the party,

i want one more fps from bungie, and then move on to a fps while driving a car, are maybe some sort of tank game, anthing where i can blow s++t up

[WLPowell]

If it's not Halo I'll be happy. Oni and marathon were meh, and Halo has become a self-referential joke. Hopefully they've taken notes from games that define this generation instead of keeping MS warm with one of the only exclusives they have left just because the fanbase can't move on.

[Yue9]

do you really think i am going to buy final fantasy 14 next year and pay monthly fees then buy a new console 1 or 2 years later?hell no like sony said 10 year lifespam either like it or hate it deal with it ok?

[dkgshiz]

MGS4 sub HD? Nope. The PS3 doesn't need anybody to defend it. It speaks for itself. UC2 and KZ2. These games are hands down the best looking console games of all time. GT5 should also be in there. GOW 3 could be to.

[waterboy]

or best looking ingame visuals period, crysis is the best looking game, as in looks like a game, but ps3 exclusives are the best looking ingame movies ingame cg

[Raider69]

@ to the guy that states bluray has nothing to do with graphics!

Im sorry but you are wrong!Bluray haves everything to do with graphics,because space (GB) is essential to put multiple layers of textures at higher resolutions!Since consoles dont cache uncompress data to hdd like a normal PC hardware can,wend it comes comparing Bluray to DVD9 on consoles (not dvd9 for PC use!) Bluray haves the edge regarding storage capability to get more uncompress graphics data like textures!

[Yue9]

about time i see a very smart comment by someone blu-ray does help with the ps3 graphic it just doesn't make movies look better but games as well the ps3 isn't even at its limit yet you havn't seen the full power of the ps3 yet but my god rarely you see someone as smart as this person right here..

[Dawn_Of_Ashes]

lol i tought by the title it was another lame article from hhg

[kasasensei]

"Bungie ready for PS4, Xbox 720"
It is a little too early to say so, i think.

[Hitman0769]

Epic ffail for every commenter in this thread.

[kraze07]

If Bungie was ready for next gen gaming they'd develop for the PC again seeing as how it'll be at least a few years before the next playstation or xbox is released.

[BuIIetproofish_]

Their game will probably be on the 360, 720 and PS3. Possibly a launch title for the 720. The 720 and PS4 will probably get the sequel exclusively. I have no clue if Nintendo's next console will get it. Bungie are amazing developers and I can't wait to see what they have for all of us.

[Paballo]

Ps3 still has a lot of life in it and by the end of this year we will start arguably reaching the midpoint of this console generation.Developers have yet to maximize on the consoles hardware yet alone strain it with developers like GG,Naughty Dog,Insomaic Games,Sucker Punch PolyPhony Digital,Zipper Interactive,Quantic Dream,Media Molecule,Eat Sleep Play,Relentless Games,Game Republic,ThatGaneCompany,Light box Interactive,Slant Six Games,Sony Japan Studio,Sony Santo Monica and third party companys like Level5,Crytex(yet to be released Crysis2)Kojima Productions,Square Enix, only pushing the hardware to the respective 50-60%not to mention that the development community has just gotten to grips with cell, have started using the ps3 as the lead platform,advancements in blu ray that allows single layer blu rays discs to be pushed to 33.4GBs or 66.8GBs( dual layered),not to mention that later through firmware updates we will see ps3 playing blu ray discs up to 200GBs,improvements to the psn and a new premium service that will allow a service that not only equals xbox live but betters it with allowing you to play a complete game for an hour trial before you buying,downloading free ps1 games etc ,not at all forgetting PS move coming at fall not to mention 3D for the ps3 and we see with all of that,that the Ps3 easily has another 7years left in it.But let's just look at the future and fastfoward by Five years.Using Moore law,observing the technology advancements in the market, analysising of the spec difference between the ps1-ps2 and ps3 I have calculated the possible ps4 specs below.Cell broadband engine 2.0(dual)@7-10Ghz.32Spe's( for each cell).5PPE's and a local pool cache memory of 12MB.Hopefully 16nm process.16GB XDR 2.0 RAM @ 7-10Ghz.Cell based custom built GPGPU either by intel larrabee or ATI.Directx12/OpenGL 5. 5000Mhz/5Ghz core.Clock Speed 4500Mhz/4.5Ghz.5billion Transistors.Independant unified Pixel/Vertex Shaders.960pixel pipelines.320vertex pipelines.Displaying @ Ultra Definition/UDHD or Quad HD 7680x4320p.4GB DDR7 video memory. 5-10TB HARD DRIVE. Blu ray2.0 disc storage 500GB to 2TB.Drive Speed 8-12x.USB3.0x2(atleast).Blue Tooth 3.0.WiFi2.0.Dual Shock4/Move2.Remote play2.0(compatability and features with PSP2),Playstation Cloud Intergration(to be explained another time).Next time I will do the xbox 720specs.(Sorry about not spacing this with bullet points I typed this on a phone.)And pls make the ps4 easy to develop for I can imagine how much the dev kits alone would cost.Hope ur lisening SONY.Somebody call Ken Kutagari to make this happen.

[Paballo]

Yes technology in the video games industry advances quickly.Today standards are merely yesterday last gen advances.It takes a merely two months for your technology to be regarded as last gen regardless if this is the video game industry,medical science,physics,consumer electronics,engineering ect....but gamers forget one thing.Its all about making money in the end.you can't invest billions upon billions of dollars into R&D and manufacturing and still end up making a loss to only start breaking even to jst start churning profits,just to
scrap that and start all over with another console.Even if M$ and Sony support there respective consoles after releasing the new ones at the same time.They would jst run there division let alone there companys to the ground because they have yet to recop there cost..There are shareholders constantly on there backs wanting there returns and renumerations,deficits to overcome.It questions me why so many gamers believe that M$ or Sony will release next gen consoles anytime soon from 2011 to 2012.At EARLIEST we can expect new consoles at 2013 at EARLIEST.2014-2015 is when will really see next gen consoles.We have barely even hit the midpoint of this gen let alone the consoles have yet to hit the 199$ sweet spot but I keep hearing"Next gen consoles will release in 2011 or 2012".Its upsurd.Gamers even forget other variables such as the fact that dev cycles have moved from the typical 2years to 3-4years.So that's less time to make returns on investment.More cost.Smaller profits or the fact that dev cost have
moved from the manageable 4-8million$ to now 13-20million as the norm.As well as variables that we are just from an economic downturn that this world has never seen since the 1980s.Think about it for second.Sony for example has yet to release a psp2 but people believe ps4 is around the corner.Releasing two consoles two years apart will be financial suicide let alone 1year apart.I am not saying I am 100percent correct but come on guys.All facts point to a 2014-2015 release dates.The only company that can release a console within now to 2011-2012 is Nintendo but wii still sells like hot cakes so why bother?And even if they do since the gaming industry is an oragopoly(excuse my spelling),the wii2 will proberly be between 360 and a ps3 if not slightly more powerful.Sony and M$ will have to worry about what Nintendo next input device will be.Not that Wii2/HD games will make Ps3 or 360 games look like garbage.They proberly won't anyways.Last point;I posted the specs of what I believe the specs of ps4 are going to be when it releases in 2014/2015 and I know they may seem upsurdly powerful but thing is.The Next gen of consoles won't be rendering the same way as the previous gen of consoles.Both Epic games and John Carmack believe that Ray tracing is Next Generation of rendering and both are working on Next Generation engines that render that way and given the horse power needed I don't believe ps4 nor xbox720(or whateva they call it)will be a mere 2-8more powerful.what would be the point!?A very powerful and vast cpu are need not to mention a large amount of memory so 2-8times more power won't help much or give us that much different kind of games that were not possible in the previous gen .what is being done GAMEPLAY WISE on the more powerful PC bother that can be done on consoles?Nothing.So let's enjoy this Gen while it last.(Sorry for my gammer I typed this on a phone).South Africa rules!