Boogie 1UP review 3/10

So, chances are, you've heard of Boogie by now: It's an ambitious mashup of genres, a rhythm/karaoke game for the Nintendo Wii, dosed with a dash of vaudevillian bizarreness. Let's get another thing straight: This is a party game. If you are playing this by yourself, you aren't going to have very much fun. After all, nobody wants to look stupid at home, alone, by herself.

[ngg12345]

I'm still probably going to buy it, looks like fun.

[MK_Red]

Agreed. 1UP has been harsh before but they really butchered this one. But I fear they may be right, from the demos and the test of review, the 3/10 makes sense.

[MK_Red]

Wow, and GamePro gave it an 8!! I was expecting 5 for this game and both sites did totally different. One 8/10 and another 3/10!

[ChickeyCantor]

isnt this a hint towards us all?
A hint that tells, its always a personal opinion?
And you should always try it out, no matter what people tell you.

=3

[Kokoro]

is now a rubbish game. they could have done much better with such a great concept. But decided just to let it go and the hell with it. It is the "half-ass: game Itaki was looking for.

[MK_Red]

Agreed. The concept is cute and specially noble on Wii and seems error-proof but they really did nothing for the game beyond concept and the idea.

Personally, I really hurt the characters and the art direction of this game but thats not the real problem with this game.

[Loudninja]

Gamepro gave it an 4.0

[MK_Red]

I've always trusted 1UP more than GamePro and come on, 4/5 (8 out of 10) is really too much for this game. Even at E3 it got no nomination and most of previews and impressions where like "Still not feeling Boogie" (Joytiq, Kotaku, 1UP and more).

[djt23]

i told you 1up hate nintendo wii

[Imallvol7]

And the Wii CoNTINUES to DELIVER!!! What a piece.

[Darkiewonder]

As long as the average review ratings for High School Musical 2 gets no less than 5.

[Charlie2688]

Don't worry people it will get more bad reviews and it will sell million only to encourage more devs to lower their bar in quality and choose the Wii as their lead platform so they can create even more mediocre casual games

>.>

[WaggleLOL]

EGM/1Up is nothing more than a place for Xbots to try to get hired away to Microsoft.

Complete joke in the eyes of gamers.

[midgard229]

wii games always get bad scores. whats new???

[ParaDise_LosT]

Waggle, just because they gave Lair a bad review
the site is automaticly 'Pro MS'
Take your diseased morals else where...
I don't think they're wanted here....

[MK_Red]

While EGM gave Lair a bad review, they also gave Blue Dragon a 5 or 6 which is terrible for a 3 DVD big RPG all the while giving Mario Strikers a 7.5, higher than both Lair and Blue Dragon. If that doesnt make them Nintendo fans and PS3/360 haters then this wont mean they are Nintendo haters.

[AllroundGamer]

uhm another one of the "great" titles for Wii? my Wii is covered with dust and desperately waiting for some good games, cause now the average ratings for all games are like 5/10...

[okcomputer]

Thats the one thing I don't get about the wii. I love nintendo (grew up on the nes and snes) but why the hell are the wii sales so freaking high when there's only one good game out for it, zelda, and zelda doesn't even appeal to the casual gamers that are supposedly buying up the console like crazy.. Do people just love playing crap games just because of the motion control gimmick? I honestly don't get it.

[bootsielon]

Zelda? Zelda is on gamecube, and it sold better on gamecube (installed base). Even if it will end up being outsold by the Wii version later, the GC version is better (since it was meant to be a gamecube game). Zelda SHOULD NOT be a reason to buy the Wii, since you can get a better experience cheaper. Hell, you can even play the gamecube game on the Wii.

Bottomline, there's nothing EXCLUSIVELY on the wii that really screams "buy me". It's just the fact that it's a lot cheaper than the competition. The Wii would have never gotten that kind of attention had Xbox 360 and PS3 costed the same. In fact, even if it contradicts economic theory, price dropping DOES increase demand (Note: I say it contradicts economic theory because price drops, theoretically, ONLY shift demand that ALREADY EXISTS; however, a price drop is also a marketing move, which means hype goes up, which means demand goes up, at least momentarily; which shouldn't happen... I don't think PS3 would have been so hot at $500 as it is now if it had launched at $500; it is hot now because *percieved* value is $600 and it just got a price drop; that's my theory). So, that's how Wii got its sales through the roof. The Wii got a price drop the moment PS3's price was announced, and Xbox 360's price stopped moving. The Wii is supposedly selling so much because it's not competing (that is, it's supposedly not a substitute product for 360 or PS3; rather, it's "something new"); but I say that's not true. I say the Wii is behaving like a SUBSTITUTE, that is, it is indeed COMPETING with a lower price. People's demand for Wii is so high because the prices of competitors are so high. Price dropping to the level of Wii now may not hurt the Wii since hype has already set in and momentum is there (and it might remain there as long as it is sold out; if it wasn't, it wouldn't seem so hot, and maybe, just maybe, hype would die down and so would demand, as it happened with PS3 after it launched; perhaps that is a Nintendo strategy).

Anyway, as much as we'd like the Wii to be a complement to the PS3 or 360, it is not, and that's why people have chosen the Wii over PS3 and 360; the Wii is NOT expanding the market that much; rather, it is being bought by casuals (and very few non-gamers; as of now); it's starting in reverse; casuals first, hardcore later, as opposed to the traditional business model that Sony and MSFT are using. Those casuals that buy PS2s en mass, NOT the grannys, NOT the soccer moms, NOT the middle-aged men. WHy? Because all the software for them (non-gamers) isn't available yet as it is on the DS (perhaps until Wii Fit sets in). I'm not saying none of them have bought in, I'm saying not as many as on the DS, but later it will. Right now, it is a Substitute, NOT a complement, unfortunately for the hardcore, until people realize they fell for the hype. (And perhaps until prices for 360 and PS3 are accesible enough). So that's why it's selling so much; it's "the new PS2", since it started as low as a PS2 and had as much "immediate value" as a PS2 has now (PS2 has tons of games, Wii has a magic wand).

Sorry for the long paragraphs, I didn't feel like separating them now, I'm tired.

[COCK]

wow guys this game can be game off the year it looks oustanding am surely going 2 get this game n lock my self n my parents basement n play it until i beat it wow thgis games graphis might be beter than the wii am safe 2 say dat this game will win game off the year

[senerock]

dont tell me u were expecting it to get a 10/10 cause thats ludicrous....

[bootsielon]

Sh17.

I don't like Wii, but my bet is that they, 1up / EGM, just want to be attention whores. Why?

1. Blogs like Joystiq and Kotaku have been getting lots of attention.
2. GamePro and Games radar have definitely taken a lot of market share online.
3. IGN and Gamespot dominate the online scene.
4. Edge and Game Informer have been getting great reputations lately.
5. Fanboy material has become very popular, with websites and magazines oriented specifically towards ONE console/company becoming more popular (in part thanks to the net, which is ironic considering the net is competing with paper based news)

Not necessarily order of importance.

(Note: I would have said N4G, but this is just a compilation site, even with some original material; we gamers need to go out and read other sites or magazines, since the site is biased towards fanboyish stuff, and has little or nothing on Wii (because nobody likes Wii here anyway))

EGM and 1up are dying next to the competition (and to think they were once the dominant gaming journalist force in the late 90s), and so they need to become attention whores in order to generate hits.

I'm not saying EGM is not popular anymore... I'm saying they've lost a lot of marketshare. Why? Because the gamer is much better informed right now, thanks to the net. That's not to say Mags are dead... that's saying Game Informer and Edge have gained more popularity thanks to the net. And to think EGM used to badmouth GamePro always... all for nothing.

[bootsielon]

Sorry for posting this again, but i'll put it again as a main comment since I think it's important for the discussion.

Some say Zelda makes the Wii worth buying. Really? Zelda is on gamecube, and it sold better on gamecube (installed base). Even if it will end up being outsold by the Wii version later, the GC version is better (since it was meant to be a gamecube game). Zelda SHOULD NOT be a reason to buy the Wii, since you can get a better experience cheaper. Hell, you can even play the gamecube game on the Wii.

Bottomline, there's nothing EXCLUSIVELY on the wii that really screams "buy me". It's just the fact that it's a lot cheaper than the competition. The Wii would have never gotten that kind of attention had Xbox 360 and PS3 costed the same. In fact, even if it contradicts economic theory, price dropping DOES increase demand (Note: I say it contradicts economic theory because price drops, theoretically, ONLY shift demand that ALREADY EXISTS; however, a price drop is also a marketing move, which means hype goes up, which means demand goes up, at least momentarily; which shouldn't happen... I don't think PS3 would have been so hot at $500 as it is now if it had launched at $500; it is hot now because *percieved* value is $600 and it just got a price drop; that's my theory). So, that's how Wii got its sales through the roof. The Wii got a price drop the moment PS3's price was announced, and Xbox 360's price stopped moving. The Wii is supposedly selling so much because it's not competing (that is, it's supposedly not a substitute product for 360 or PS3; rather, it's "something new"); but I say that's not true. I say the Wii is behaving like a SUBSTITUTE, that is, it is indeed COMPETING with a lower price. People's demand for Wii is so high because the prices of competitors are so high. Price dropping to the level of Wii now may not hurt the Wii since hype has already set in and momentum is there (and it might remain there as long as it is sold out; if it wasn't, it wouldn't seem so hot, and maybe, just maybe, hype would die down and so would demand, as it happened with PS3 after it launched; perhaps that is a Nintendo strategy).

Anyway, as much as we'd like the Wii to be a complement to the PS3 or 360, it is not, and that's why people have chosen the Wii over PS3 and 360; the Wii is NOT expanding the market that much; rather, it is being bought by casuals (and very few non-gamers; as of now); it's starting in reverse; casuals first, hardcore later, as opposed to the traditional business model that Sony and MSFT are using. Those casuals that buy PS2s en mass, NOT the grannys, NOT the soccer moms, NOT the middle-aged men. WHy? Because all the software for them (non-gamers) isn't available yet as it is on the DS (perhaps until Wii Fit sets in). I'm not saying none of them have bought in, I'm saying not as many as on the DS, but later it will. Right now, it is a Substitute, NOT a complement, unfortunately for the hardcore, until people realize they fell for the hype. (And perhaps until prices for 360 and PS3 are accesible enough). So that's why it's selling so much; it's "the new PS2", since it started as low as a PS2 and had as much "immediate value" as a PS2 has now (PS2 has tons of games, Wii has a magic wand).

Sorry for the long paragraphs, I didn't feel like separating them now, I'm tired.

[texism]

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[ItsDubC]

but what makes you think a discussion about the Wii's worth belongs in every news story about the Wii? The majority of the posts you make in the Wii news section are about how you dislike the Wii rather than a comment on what the actual Wii news is. You know I'm right, too. Aren't you tired of trolling yet?

Try posting a comment relevant to the actual story you're posting in.

[Fighter]

The game will sell good because people who own wii's are not really gamers and they don't usually read reviews. They will probably think this is another innovative title but their purchase will end in disappointment, again.

@bootsielon

You should write a blog. You made good arguments but it's too long for this comment section.

[TheExodus]

... I just cracked the shrink wrap on this one.

[TheExodus]

92 minutes into Boogie reveals 1UP's reviewer to be a very bitter woman. Boogie looks good & is fun for what it is. It does leave me longing for more nuanced control of my boog, but maybe Nintendo will team up with Nike to produce a line of Wii-compatible sneakers.