Halo: Reach - 4 Reasons why Bungie's shooter wipes the floor with Killzone 3

Halo: Reach versus Killzone 3 - Videogameszone have analyzed the potential for success of both titles and have come to a decision: Halo: Reach could be commercially and better quality product.

[Karooo]

more annoying the fanboys, i hate people taking advantage of this site for hits.

[DelbertGrady]

Let me guess, it's from über-schnitzel.de?

[Rot_in_Fail]

Why does 4 reasons get so hot, I though you need at least 7 to get this hot.

[MerkinMax]

I'm one of the people who is going to enjoy BOTH Halo Reach and Killzone 3. I love both series, they are very different from each other and that is why I like them.

[DaTruth]

"Lol. and Xbox fanboys so desperate that they have to link a FOREIGN website for an opinion???? LOLOL."

foreign to who??? I'm not from there, but I'm sure some users are! Opinions aren't worth anything unless they're American opinions?

[FragMnTagM]

Why hate one or the other? They are both going to be great games and I will be getting both. Only an idiot would think that Killzone was going to outsell Halo Reach though. Does it matter? Hell no, Killzone 3 is looking like a badass game. I just hope they fix one thing. The linearity of the levels. That is all I want out of Killzone 3. From the looks of it, they are delivering that. So both games for me, screw the fanboy bullshit.

[Anon1974]

I stopped reading when it said Halo would be a better game because the Halo series is more popular. I don't know how the final versions of each game will turn out, but I do know that this article is full of fail.

[hobo51]

im with sltPoison, reach is gonna be badass and killzone 3 gonna be fricken amazing, and they both seem like they improved everything that was wrong with the previous instalments so i really cant wait

[RockmanII7]

*sigh*

[Threesix]

PS3 fans link to the same website for a lot of articles too. You're not exempt.

[DERKADER]

4 reasons why a game that's not out yet is better then another game that isn't out yet.

I feel like I'm on Crazy Pills!

[moparful99]

I'm so tired of these retarded articles and all of the arguing that esnues... I have no energy or will power to join in these meaningless debates...

[NeutralGamer]

These german sites just makes money on fanboys!

[morventhus]

im sorry but... weve barely heard any info on kz3 compared to h:r...... how can we possibly compare them....

[Domer25]

I would never underestimate KZ3. Yeah reach will crush the sales charts, but in the end the games will do the talking.

[SonyPS360]

@ bringitson

Because all people who like Halo MUST be from an English speaking nation, right?

Idiot.

More content, better gameplay, better multiplayer, graphics are looking just as nice as anything seen in Killzone 2 and 3 so far (which being a Ps3 fanboy, you'll violently deny of course).

Take a look in the mirror before throwing the word "fanboy" around. I knew you Ps3 nut huggers would be all over the comments section here.

Halo redefined an entire genre and its multiplayer.

Killzone? Not so much. Out of the franchise, only one game was actually worth playing, and who even still plays it?

Of course Halo Reach wins. We don't need this article to prove it to us.

[plstcsldgr]

halo hasn't changed since the first besides the graphics and your saying we are nut huggers? halo has become so generic and replayed it isn't even worth playing any more.

[Lyr1c]

I think someone has some issues. This is another case of the classic "pot calling the kettle black".

For one, assumptions are never an intelligent way to begin an argument. Secondly, you're chastising him for using the word "fanboy" when the VERY NEXT SENTENCE you use the term "PS3 nut huggers".

Come on.

Paying $180 for a game is ridiculous (that is Halo 3, Halo 3.2, and the NEW AND IMPROVED Halo 3.5 - all in which have added next to nothing to the franchise). You have fun wasting your money. I'm actually going to see how real game developers improve on their EVOLVING franchise.

[4me2]

Redefine?? You meant define on the console since there was PC gaming long time before that.

I would say that Halo (original one) proof that quality FPS can be done on console using game pad. In my opinion the controller scheme gave Halo as much fame as the game itself and establish FPS on console.

Halo 1
I have never played Halo (original one).

Halo 2
Played campaign Halo 2 but never played online MP(did not have Live on original Xbox). At that time Halo 2 campaign was for me the best FPS.

Halo 3
Played campaign and online for the first time. Single player seems to be more of the same but fun like always (and that all you need). Online felt kind of dated. For halo1 and halo2 it was OK, but since then there is lots competition and many dynamic shooters while it seemed that Halo3 as game itself was left in the HALO1 and 2 era.

I also find very annoying where people jump up and down to avoid being shot and this goes for any game. Though it is funny when someone trying to do this in games like Call of Duty or Killzone. It just doesn't work.

I would also like to ask you question?
If you are diehard HALO fan, have you been playing HALO since
a). Halo 1
b). Halo 2
c). halo 3

Myself,on xbox I prefer Gears of War over Halo

[bodybombs]

@plstcsldgr &lyr1c

have you guys even played halo?

if you've played through the first, second and third, and then the reach beta then you would realize the MAJOR difference between all of them. yes the core gameplay is there between all of the games, but you're kidding yourself if you think for even a second that those games havent improved on one another.

try this, play halo 1 for a few hours, then play halo 3 for a few, then play reachfor a few when it comes out. you'll see the differences that you seem to think dont exist.

im not gonna lie, i love halo, but i also own a ps3 and play games like MAG and Killzone 2. i admit, killzone two looks amazing, but i would have a hard time finding any gameplay dynamics that were more enjoyable in it than in halo.

be a gamer, not a fanboy

[swinesucker]

Dude, there are dozens and dozens of KZ servers up daily. Who doesn't play it. Obviously you.

[bsquwhere]

All the things you just stated are OPINIONS. No facts. What. So. Ever. You think Halo is better. Some people think Killzone is the one. I already know the points you'll bring up. It will be the same tired points. ALL fanboys bring up.

Sales don't make a great game. Or anything. There are books out there way better than any movie, and they don't make the same kind of money. Same can be said for music. There are great bands that make hardly any money compared to some rich ones that suck. In my opinion, of course.

Halo did redefine a genre. For console gamers. It's an awesome game. I bought a XBOX just to play it. I connected it to my pc to play online. I played for hours on end. Don't frag'n talk to me about Halo. On the other hand Halo 2 made FPS multiplayer what it is today. On consoles. However Halo 3, ODST, and even the single player for Halo 2, were just made to make money. I think of Halo as The Matrix of video games. The first one was great, the others just finished the story and were kinda shiny. Ya get me. Good games. Stopped being genre defining years ago.

I like Killzone. Not gonna change the genre like Halo(the 1st). But goddamn its a solid game. It's fun as hell. I like the story. I like the gameplay, and it looks real purty. So back off.

Halo is the the "used to be the popular guy in school" that still hangs out with the kids that still go there. Killzone is one of those kids. Just trying to get some of the girls (gamers)to pay attention to him, and not the older guy. Sure he's cool, but can he buy you beer.

So will the real gamers please stand up grab your controller(of choice), and slap the fanboy next to you with your free hand.

Peace, or whatever.

[BannedForNineYears]

Who designed that site?!
Is my browser not displaying it properly? Is it garbage for anyone else? O.o

[hassi94]

I get the same problem, can't see any actual comparison or anything, such a bad website.

[MisterNiwa]

Its because of google translate, geez.

Before claiming shit, better research.

[fireplace]

No it's not google translate. This site is completely broken.
Cynamite.de
videogameszone.de
pcgames.de
They are ale the same. They are refreshing themselves every 5 seconds, even have the same advertising.
KLICKEN SIE HIER ZU BROKENGESUNDHEITHAMBURGFRANKFU RTPUMERNIKEL over and over again.

[BannedForNineYears]

Hay Mister.

"Its because of google translate, geez.
Before claiming shit, better research."

"Is my browser not displaying it properly?"

Aka my browser isn't displaying it properly.
ROFL.

[Scary69]

That is why I read some comments and decide weather the article is worth reading, in this case it is not so that means no hits for that site from me :)

[Darkstorn]

These are completely different games. Why are they being compared?

[Immortal321]

but if you can chose both killzone3 and halo reach, how come others can't accept gameplay and graphics instead of choosing one over the other?

[vmartin12]

I don't know why people are still going crazy over the Halo franchise... All I see is a good campaign, and a slightly modified multiplayer each game.. I loved Halo 1, was crazy over Halo 2 - Then I realized how similiar Halo 3 was... And it got boring within 3 months of release.. (Note: I was a crazy Halo fan - first at the midnight release where I live) I've played the Reach Beta.. And it fealt like the old generic Halo MP gameplay.. Course I'll buy Reach... But mainly for the campaign and to give MP another try.. But IMO - Gears of War 3 > Halo: Reach - And I liked KZ but the MP longevity was short lived due to their ranking system.

[ATi_Elite]

Halo: Reach MIGHT sell more than Call of Duty black ops on the 360 but over all COD:bo will kill Halo: Reach in total sales because it's a multiplat.

Killzone 3 will surpass Killzone 2 as the definitive console shooter. Halo: Reach as far as graphics and game play is not on Killzone's level.

Killzone is a hardcore shooter and Halo is for casuals PERIOD. Any No0b can pick up Halo or MW2 and be competitive within 10 minutes. Noobtube or Needler nuff said.

N0obs have ZERO chance versus skilled players of Killzone 2 and BFBC2.

For 360 owners, I'm sorry but Halo is ALL you got and after that the 360 is MW2 then Gears then a big JOKE.

[snesfangirl]

"far as graphics and game play is not on Killzone's level. "
you're right halo's gameplay teabags killzone's.

graphics i'll give the edge to killzone, but reach looks fantastic.

sorry but the real world disagrees whole heartedly with you sony trolls. killzone really isn't anything special. halo raised the bar so high in multiplayer and features alone that psn would crash to try handle a game of it's magnitude.

halo also raised the bar/standard for all fps on consoles, killzone hasn't done shit since it's inception. killzone 2, nice to look at, boring as fuck to PLAY.

online stats prove me right, sells prove me right. all FACTS!
the only shooter i ever regretted buying was killzone 2, all HYPE nothing else. boring campaign, it almost put me to sleep, i did like the first person cover, that's all.

the online, lmfao if you guys really think that THAT game is something great online, then you all seriously need to play other shooters online...enough said!

"walks away laughing at the bullshit sony trolls in this thread"

[Lyr1c]

-facepalm- @ snesfangirl

someone doesn't know what they're talking about

[4me2]

"high in multiplayer and features alone that psn would crash to try handle a game of it's magnitude"

Does Halo still has 16 people max in multiplayer? In p2p mode games are run on host machine with direct connection to participants and only uploads final stats to Live servers.

MAG 256 players and no lag. I think PSN can handle "magnitude" of 16
players.
Regarding Killzone online multiplayers, I like crumbling parts of walls (because of rockets and nads), smoke, dynamic light effects, thunderstorm and lighting. Whats happening in settings(environment) around you, while you shoot , it only adds to overall experience and feel of the game. And Killzone does it well.

"you all seriously need to play other shooters online" - you should really take your own advise.

[squallheart]

well said 4me2

[JonnyBadfinger]

i gotta agree with snes.

While i dont own a PS3 i have still spent a good 10hrs playing the game at a mates house, and i fail to see how its any different from battlefield. The player feels weighted and slow... although the game does have the best sprint action in a FPS i have ever seen, feels and looks natural.

KZ 2 all round is a decent game, being a 360 gamer i had alot of trouble adjusting to the controls but if your a PS3 gamer you probably didnt take any notice of it.

But the game is a tad to seriously for me, thats why i love Halo. nothing more satisfying then running your teammates down just as they have gotten a killing spree in your warthog.

My point is, KZ's intensity level is NOT that much different from that of Battlefields... and really the only difference between the 2 games is a different colour pallet.

And as for a Halo not being competitive, you cant be serious?... i think its a little thing called MLG. Which im pretty sure KZ and BFBC2 are NOT apart of. Why? Because they arent competitive.

Im a god in BFBC2 and CoD but i suck balls in Halo, taking someone shield down in 3 shots is harder than it sounds. And with the addition of recoil in Reach all my hope to 1 day be competitive at the game just got blown outta the bloody water. which is why i will stick to betrayals.

[nycredude]

snesfangirl

jesus christ

Having no games but halo and Gears and kinect has clearly made you xbots insane. "real world"? Where is this real world you live in? Reading your comments of psn crashing it would seem you are in lala land. Funny as hell being that the only place you can get 256 mp without lag is on Psn. Seriously just admit it you don't even have a Ps3 so stop the BS. You probably don't even have a pc if you think xbox live is uber powerful.

I'll admit I got rid of my 360 cause it was junk, loud and got too hot when using and the only real franchises on it I didn't like.

[Dee_91]

Who ever approved this should have their aproving/ reporting powers taking away seriously

[Eric Barrier]

I agree. These articles are pointless and are what fuel fanboys. Never will you see "4 Reasons why Raisin in the Sun wipes the floor with Huck Finn". Halo: Reach will be fantastic as will Killzone 3 and both will be strong contenders of GOTYs for their respective years. Why can't we just come to an agreement. It will be hard to convince the general public that our hobby can be considered art if the audience is split and doesn't think (ex. Uncharted sucks, Zelda sucks, Mass Effect sucks, etc.) simply because they have a loyalty to a company. No one ever just goes to see Wes Anderson or Tim Burton films. They just enjoy good film regardless of who made them.

[DigitalRaptor]

This crappy webite needs to stop. I mean what's the point?

Both games are different, for different crowds.

One is arcadey, the other is more weighted/realistic.

[MonopolyRSV]

Actually, "weighted" might not be true for KZ3. The dev was quoted as saying the game would cater more to the "run and gun" crowd or something like that, so alot of the heaviness might be gone. I hope not though cause that would be a shame.

[MonopolyRSV]

How dare you disagree with me son!

[Kingdom Come]

The one with the Elite Aliens and the Covenant who battle the Spartans in space or the one where Humans visit the another planet populated with enemies with Invisible Technology and more flying vehicles?

[BornToKill]

nice try.

[Playerz8]

Killzone 3>Halo Reach

[rlm42]

Halo Reach>Killzone 3

[MajestieBeast]

Cake>Pie.

[Paradicia]

Apple>Orange

[mastiffchild]

No Apple are evil and I prefer oranges to iPads every time. They're a food, a drink and a ball.

[wicko]

goddamn cake fanboys in my N4G, everyone knows pie wipes the floor with cake

[nnotdead]

muffin>pie>cake

[SonyPS360]

Look at the disagrees and agress.

All the proof you need that there are more Ps3 fanboys on this website.

[DaTruth]

Or there are just more people who like Killzone better than Halo on this site!

Cake>pie earned 37 agrees! What are we to make of that? More cake fanboys on this site???

[x5exotic]

Killzone 2 > Halo Franchise

[cyborg6971]

Hairpie>anything. Dumb comparison and both will be good.

[Theonik]

The Apple fanboys in the site are ubearable Orange>apple any day of the week.

[BloodyCHAMP]

halo reach > killzone 3

[Anorexorcist]

Boobies > Butts

And that is a Fact!!!

Killzone 3 > Halo Reach

And That is also a FACT!!!

...LOL, this is really fun!

[presto717]

KZ3 > Reach

just like butt + hips + thighs >>>>>>>&g t; boobs

Ha!! FACT.

And my FACT > your FACT. Now thats a FACT!!!

[MajestieBeast]

Boobies > Butts

OBJECTION!

Butts>Boobies

[Scotland-The-Brave]

@MajestieBeast whats so sexy about a butt? I mean shit comes out of it lol, unless you are gay ofcourse?

[OneSneakyMofo]

Nothing like sucking on a hard nipple. Boobs ftw.

[Sez]

I have to agree with majestiebeast. There's nothing like grabbing on a phat booty when a girl is riding you. Plus when you hit it from the back and your watching it jiggle. That's just my opinion. Butt to each his own lol

[Consoldtobots]

I think the one asking what is so sexy about a womans nice round buttocks should be the one checking their sexual orientation. just saying.....

[insomnium]

There's nothing better than to come in slowly from behind while spreading it wide open. I don't mean the hole where sh*t comes out I mean the normal hole. I think when people say butt they don't mean actually the hole but the whole thing thighs included.

My wife has fed our babies with her boobies and I've never been too fond of boobies anyway. They are primarily for feeding infants but it's nice to put a sausage there in between sometimes too don't get me wrong. But when it comes to butt vs boobies there really is no comparison. To me anyway.

[the_kutaragi_baka]

gamers>fanboys.

suck this... ;)

[aCHU]

DOOOOOOD PIE>CAKE get it strait!

.. and Killzone3D>Reach 2D ..

Boobies and Buttt>Dick n Balls lol

[skip2mylou]

CAKE>PIE, BOOBIES,BUTT, and PUSSY>HAIRY NUTS AND DICK

[Lyr1c]

Black > White

.......Wait

[DaBadGuy]

Yellow
\/ Black >< White
/\
Brown

That's equality for ya!
EDIT: Aw my inequality 4-way got messed up, just imagine the yellow arrow and brown arrows are on the top and bottom of the black and white arrows.....heh heh heh....innuendo.

[Christopher]

logic > Killzone 3 or Halo: Reach fanboys.

[Etseix]

Burger King > McDonalds

[BornToKill]

we've seen barely anything from Killzone 3... not a word on multiplayer!

that's why this article fails.

[Mmmkay]

meh.. we'se seen 30 sec of pre-alpha. that's enough to doom the entire game....

[Thrillhouse]

Pretty much.

Even after both games have been out for over a year, articles like this will still be pretty silly, because everyone will have their personal gameplay preference.

[Motorola]

it comes out in 2011.. thats y.. and we havent seen anything on Black Ops MP yet its going to sell better than both Killzone and Halo

[dizzleK]

because reach will simply be the better game. everybody knows it, it's freakin bungie for crying out loud. i know the fanboy denial has an iron grip on n4g but based on past history alone,yea, reach will be better.

more commercially successful alone is a foregone conclusion that even the most brainwashed fanboy can't deny.

so what if they're on different consoles, they're both sci-fi fps' with jet packs, are they not? you have 3 bubbles, of course you love killzone more. if you didn't lord sony-4g would debubble you so fast your head would spin.

[Karooo]

I loved reach beta too so stop comparing shit both are on different consoles

you are a fkng m@r@n. gtfo this site

[Tachyon_Nova]

Did you know: By pointing out that the games are on different consoles, you have in fact (loosely) compared them.

In any case, I don't see what's wrong with comparing one game to another, indeed, in order to review and score a game, reviewers must compare a game to other games. However, you should wait until both games in question have been released.

[thereapersson]

Here's a hint: It wasn't Halo. Also, Killzone: Liberation featured Jetpacks long before Halo: Reach was even a concept.

Food for thought, if you have any ability left in that narrow brain of yours...

[Belasco]

OMG jetpacks? JETPACKS? I remember a game called Tribes that had jetpacks, waaay before Liberation. So I wouldnt be questioning anyone elses intelligence if I were you

[FA-SHO]

I think he was implying tribes then just mentioned KZ:L had it

[ChozenWoan]

+1 to all my fellow Tribesmen... and Tribeswomen! =)

Besides,
Halo has Jetpacks
KZ3 has Jumppacks

These are two completely different devices... and one looks way cooler. =P

[cryymoar]

But with Killzone 3, gamers with 3D TVs have the ability to comprehend how high or low they are going with those jet packs. That alone puts Killzone 3 on a completely different playing field. Gamers can judge even better how far an enemy is, how far to toss a nade, etc.

Killzone 3 in all it's glory is the Ferrari of console FPS'.
The game goes an extra dimension beyond where Halo can go, thanks to the amazing graphics, physics, animations and now, DEPTH.

While xbox owners "play" Halo, PS3 owners have the ability to (almost) "live" Killzone 3, thanks to it being far more realistic. It's as close to virtual reality as you can get in your own home.

And if KZ3 ends up with move support (not sure if it was confirmed yet), with 1:1 movement, the game will be even more realistic.
Gamers now have to use similar muscle movements in their arms and fingers as with using a real gun.

Some may argue that they just want a "normal" gaming experience, which is fine too, but do not bash those that want to actually experience a video game almost as if they were there, or the game that provides that.

Killzone 2 has proven to be a great game, so Killzone 3 won't be any different.

[Scotland-The-Brave]

halo sells better thats all, killzone is much better in graphics FACT!. Gameplay is great IMO, Halo graphics suck, Halo is just a genric fps

[maxcer]

lol, i see you were trying hard not be be a fanboy with that post but its showing....

[SonyPS360]

Truer words have never been spoken.

The "no it won't" argument from the Ps3 loyalists on here wouldn't matter so much if the legion of them couldn't purge you with disagrees and minus bubbles.

[Omega4]

Shouldn't K3 try and surpass Halo 3 before it even tries to compete with Reach lol.

[Karooo]

sales? a game with a huge fanbase vs a shooter that no one played before.

good job.

Kz2 already was technically better than halo3, even bungie ripped warzone from kz2 in reach.

Multiplayer was awesome too esp clan match but it was too tough for noobs like you.

Kz2 was more like a beta kz3 is the real deal

@below changing game modes in one playlist = warzone

[pustulio]

Bungie ripped Warzone? It seems we got another ignorant PS3 fanboy.

[BlackSharinganX]

@pustulio my my your an idiot lol play killzone 2 first jackass lol, no ignorant ps3 fanboy just a gamer. you might be a fanboy yourself for the xbox hence you never played killzone 2. Or maybe you just dont have a ps3 thats all , get one and play the damm game before giving out a comment lol.

[Belasco]

You seem upset. You should probably go lay down or something.

[pustulio]

Kz2 is from 2009 and Halo 3 is from 2007.

Halo 3 has playlists in wich you change game modes SINCE 2007.

Now, who ripped who?

[wicko]

So you change game modes in the middle of a match? Because a playlist is something entirely different. And that has been around in PC gaming for many many years.

[arakouftaian]

Lol

[Bobets]

Why waste time trying to surpass a SUB HD game?

[Thrillhouse]

Because graphics aren't everything.

Halo 2 had better multiplayer features than most games today, and that came out in 2004!

Have fun playing graphics, I'll go play some games.

[RememberThe357]

But he only has one bubble because he always seem to talking out of his ass.

[SephireX]

Iron Man 2 surpasses Halo 3 and from the looks of Reach, it doesn't look much better.

[Pedobear Rocks]

1. I don't play sales I play games.

2. I don't have a 360 so its irrelevant

3. Wanna get into my car? I got candy.

PBR

[jams_shop]

Wait a minute I'm not allow to get in strangers' cars.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Candy?

[skip2mylou]

i dont want candy i want cake and pie

[Alos88]

This is just another stealth "360 beats PS3" article, and we have plenty of those and vice versa.

[wenaldy]

Play your games you like....

[RememberThe357]

We're trying to stoke the fires not put them out.

That is why I wont tell them that I'll being playing both games because I have both consoles. And I'll most likely enjoy both. But remember I'm not saying this because that would mean that I didn't pick a side, and we all know you have to pick a side on N4G.

:)

[MR LOOKINGBILL]

HHALO REACH FTW!!!

[Colonel-Killzone]

You play you're Halo and I will play my Killzone. Anyway this is a flamebait article to get hits. No point arguing about 2 different games in a similar genre.

Also when someone says Killzone 2 have to surpass Halo 3 are you talking about gameplay sales ratings or from a tech standpoint view ?

[likedamaster]

I hate to sound like a hater but Halo 3 surpasses Killzone 2 in all aspects, and yes technically too. Try making your own game modes, video clips, whole campaign movies and screenshots, all this from any angle(third-person, stationary or first person view)and sending them all in a message to all friends. Nuff said. Graphically, Killzone 2 might have the edge in many a fanboy's opinion but fact is Killzone does no splitscreen, co-op or even multiplayer in the same screen so that evens out.
/end rant

And yes, it's my opinion.

[Strider_X9]

Both games are good, who really cares. I enjoy Killzone 2, and I had alot of fun on Halo 2 & 3 before that.

KZ3 and Halo: Reach are looking to be superb games, and it's a win win situation for anyone who owns a PS3 or 360.

[hi2]

f**k would approve this shit in their right minds?

[Dannehkins]

Well, a quick look shows Omega4 approved the article. Surprise, surprise? I think not. I can't wait till school starts up again and then Omega will have less time sitting in front of a computer screen being a freak and trolling articles.

And I am also led to believe that people from the site have approved their own story. I can't confirm that, but someone in the report section seems pretty sure that they have.

:S It's all backwards

[thereapersson]

Omega just calls in sick so he can spend more of the day trolling N4G

[weazel]

calls in sick?!? Do they pay people to be professional ass-hats now?

[FragMnTagM]

Omega and the rest of the trolls will all have less time to post their stupid shit here. Just look out in the afternoons, it is going to be a warzone.

[Dannehkins]

@thereapersson,

I really wouldn't put that past him to be honest. :P Ha!

[MR LOOKINGBILL]

This weak ass staff here on this forum,. This forum is a toilet dump now everyday articles like this get approved.

[Whitey2k]

1. 3D
2. 720p
3. destructable enviroments
4. graphical powerhouse

[rlm42]

Halo Reach will be the king of FPS

1. Best multiplayer
2. Best gameplay
3. More fun.
4. Best story.
5. Best features.

[jams_shop]

"Halo Reach will be the king of FPS" = [a joke]

"1. Best multiplayer" = [a lie]
"2. Best gameplay" = [lol]
"3. More fun." = [maybe but diffidently not funnier than you]
"4. Best story." [Seriously!?]
"5. Best features." [did i say this guy was funny?]

[NecrumSlavery]

Well
REACH has shown tons of MP stuff and little on the campaign.
KILLZONE 3 has shown little of everything, so let's wait until they start releasing more news. Gamescom should show off what they have planned for the MP side of KZ3.

[lh_swe]

Get your heads out of your own posteriors and realise you hold a difference of opinion, one that bickering isn't going to change.

@rlm42 - You know Reach will sell and if it is as good as promised you will play the s*** out of it untill your eyes bleed, amirite? His opinion doesn't change that does it?

Whitey2k - Those are your opinion of why Killzone 3 is better than Reach but as I have already established with idiot number 1 here is that you are making the same mistake of thinking that your opinion means that everyone should hold the sae ideals and preferences.

[Belasco]

Um, I gotta tell you, I am playing through Killzone 2 right now and I am pretty disappointed. The graphics are not nearly as impressive as I thought they would be, the story is bland and uninteresting, and the cover system is crap. Not sure I will even finish this one.

[The real killer]

"Halo: Reach - 4 Reasons why Bungie's shooter wipes the floor with Killzone"

Hahahahahahahaha............. ...what a joke, even Killzone 2 wipe out Halo Reach.

Another Joke from a Halo fanboy kid!!!!

"Halo Reach will be the king of FPS: The king of the garbage.

1. Best multiplayer: Keep dreaming boy!!
2. Best gameplay: The old same gamepley like Halo 3 en 3.5
3. More fun: Fun about what, for little kids
4. Best story: The same old crap story, it's milkcow Halo??
5. Best features: What features?

[FragMnTagM]

I thought Halo 3, was actually 2.5, so by your past fanboy logic, Halo: Reach would be Halo 3 in your delusional land. So point #2 is wrong in fanboy land.

Fun is subjective. You can't really say one or the other is more fun and try to pass it as fact. Different people have different tastes. I can easily enjoy both without a problem.

A lot of people enjoy Halo's story, so what? Killzone is a generic space marine story too... How can you hate on Halo's when Killzone's is similar?

Reach has a ton of editions to it and improvements. Ignorance is bliss.

If you don't like Halo, that is cool, but why is everyone insistent on passing FUD as truth?

I like Killzone and will be getting Killzone 3, I can give respect where it is due to both series and have a great time with both. Why is it so hard to be nice around here?

[IcemanHH21]

i agree KZ2 is better than all halo combined

[jizzyjones]

How can you compare anything to Killzone 3 when we don't even have any details on it, all we have seen is 1 pre-alpha snowy level????

[coolasj19]

Morning Flamebait

[fOrlOnhOpe57]

and it sure won't be the last on here. Im sure you 360 boys and girls will enjoy REACH (no sarcasm or knocking.
Personally, I can't wait for Kz3 to 'hit the beach' (and the jungle, frozen shorelines et al). One of so many great titles heading to a console near you lol

[Chucky2003]

all he talked about was the fanbase and the multiplayer,lets talk about the real next gen evolution,stereoscopic 3D,awesome graphics,till this day there isn't any FPS game that looks better that Killzone 2,and the way K3 beta looks its already impressive,better enemy,Helgasts are better and cooler enemies than some lizards and bugs,K3 better killing animations,i admit the fanbase is bigger for Halo but that is only in US,Europe is not that much into this game,K3-better weapons,i saw some big m*ther f*cking weapons,say hello to my little friend,i'm not an FPS fan,my comments were only of teh videos i saw from both games,and Halo Reach looked lame and cheap compared to K3

[Cock4Gamers]

let's not get ahead of ourselves buddy.KZ2 looks great and all but it isn't the best looking fps in existence. That designation belongs to Crysis 1, and by a longshot too. Also, KZ3 had better fix its abysmal framerate and actually improve its graphics over KZ2 before it can even be put in the same sentence as Halo Reach. <_<

[IcemanHH21]

Halo 3 came b4 KZ2 but there is Halo ODST, im going toward the graphics, where KZ2 is the best ive seen ( IMO ) , its way better then anything , Crysis was great in the jungle , KZ2 is on par with it,
And really Halo is great but , single player sucks .. shooting sucks , everything sucks for me haha , multi is cool , but KZ2 is great the cover the shooting the bullets !
but hey thats just me , i have an xbox 360 but played KZ2 and uncharted 2 on my friend's ps3
i think all who has ps3 will say KZ2 is better and all who has xbox will say halo3 is better ,weird , people fight for microsoft and sony and they dont even know it ..
this world is based on opinions , i like this you like that , ok so what ?
grow up people , play both.

[Acquiescence]

srs bsns

[ZombieAutopsy]

yay i get to enjoy both

[N2G]

WOW how on earth can one with a functional brain compares a game such as halo to something like killzone is beyond me.

Halo should only be compared to Halo & nothing else,enough with the insults plz.

[Acquiescence]

from someone who has Parappa as his avatar.

[HDgamer]

KZ2 and three are better than all halo games combined.

[Optical_Matrix]

For christ sake. No it doesn't "wipe the floor with Killzone 3". We hardly seen enough of Killzone 3 to judge. We know no multiplayer details or story details. Not to mention the graphics in Pre-alpha already "wipe the floor" with Halo: Reach. FACT.
It's everyones preference. I love Killzone and I've hated Halo since Halo 3. Halo CE and Halo 2 are the only ones for me. Have great childhood memories with them. This is gonna be a huge Xbot circle jerk in no time.

[Tangostarr]

I'm the same way. Halo 1 & 2 were sweet. The rest were meh. Never liked the story in Halo though...The early games were all about the action to me. I like the Killzone story way more. I'm not just talking whats in the games, I'm talking about the whole story. It really explains why the Helghast and ISA are going at it and makes you question the reasons you are at war and who is in the right. It's all from perspective just like reality. Killzone is pretty deep. Either way they are on different systems and in different styles so it's hard to compare them.

[peeps]

Hmmm i think i'll just buy halo:reach this year and then buy kz3 next year... after all there is almost a 6 month gap... lol

[krishnabloodsoul5]

what difference does it make. I never play fps multiplayer on consoles....pisses me off....

[DJMarty]

Comparing Reach which is done, to Killzone 3 which is pre-alpha. God that makes sense.

[jlemdon]

regardless of fanboys or not, Halo is gonna own every shooter out this season.

[Etseix]

let the games release first before commenting, man, calm down :/

[Mozku]

Fail article.

Yes, of course Reach will sell more and yes this obviously means that it has more players online.
But does this "wipe the floor with Killzone 3?" or make it a better game?
No.

[lelo2play]

I don't know about Killzone 3, but Killzone 2 was not that great. Had good graphics, but was way overhyped. I hope they improve many things in Killzone 3.

[TheLeprachaun]

I prefer Halo Reach over Killzone 3 too but this article is just flamebait. Halo Reach doesn't 'wipe the floor' with Killzone 3. They'll both be great games in their own right.

[OneSneakyMofo]

It's like comparing apples and oranges - they are both fruits (FPS), but different kinds of taste. I do however find the taste of oranges (Halo series) to tangy and sour, and apples (Killzone series) delicious.

[Tapey]

The problem with the Reach beta was that it was too dull. I mean at it's core, it does have some decent gameplay but when you increase the size of the maps and decrease the playercount (4v4 for certain modes, really?) it's just boring. If they could up the player count for matches without Xbox Live failing it could be a really entertaining game but as it is I lost interest in each new mode/map they added to the beta after a couple matches. I really feel that the jetpack was a wasted opportunity too, a chance to have a really fun ability added into the game to speed up combat and make it a bit more engaging but it's even more floaty than traditional Halo moon physics :(

[frankymv]

how does flaimbait like this get approved?

[lonix]

Halo reach is for kids
Kz3 is for adults

How can you compare?

[sGIBMBR]

I lol at all the people in here saying "Killzone rapes Halo" I mean seriously.

People are entitled to their own opinions but wtf, making such bold statements to say Killzone is better than Halo is just plain ignorant and funny.

How is Killzone better than Halo? Just because it's visually better? Halo3 is my favourite multi player game, I've been playing it since 2007, and so has the other 1 million unique users signing on the game everyday.

I'm sorry to butt in here but I look at the comments and they are just fucking stupid. One guy writes "KZ2 > H3" and gets like tons of agrees, one dude writes "H3 > KZ2" and gets tons of disagrees. The agree/disagree system is FAIL btw!

Copied from bungie site at 13:34, 1st of August:

Total Games Played (24h): 1,735,284

Total Players Online (24h): 683,485

Again I'm sorry, but more people are on Halo3 right now than people have played Killzone in the last month!

That doesn't mean Halo3 is better than Killzone, its all down to preference, but when I see people saying "Killzone rapes Halo" they have nothing to back up their statement!

Halo has nothing to prove when it comes to the FPS genre, Halo redefined the FPS genre and basically made online console gaming a reality.

Just play and enjoy your games ffs.

P.S. I do have Killzone2 and I'm on my PS3 right now, just paused Heavy Rain to make a comment here seen as people are acting like such douche bags!

[XabiTheHumble]

Uh.... there are thousands of people on call of duty modern warfare 2 so whats your point? Alot of people playing a game doesn't not mean its good just means that they have good advertising lol.

[DigitalRaptor]

Exactly, it just means that more people bought the the game, which is true. Halo 3 has sold 11 milion, i believe. Killzone 2 has sold around 2.5 million. Last time I checked sales =/= quality.

There are a number of reasons why Halo 3 sold as much as it did.
1. Xbox 360 install base
2. Hype (Halo is a strong franchise/Xbox's flagship title)
3. Marketing
4. Lack of much else to play at the time.

Compared to the number of people that have bought Halo 3, the players online is nothing to brag about.

[sGIBMBR]

You guys are so ignorant that the only reason you think Halo is played on such a wide scale is because of advertising and hype? That's some of the funniest garbage I've ever read on this site.

Good advertising would encourage a game to sell more yes, but once these "suckers of Microsoft" have bought the game, what keeps them coming back to play it for more? Surely if the game was all hype and advertising, then these players would play it for about a week, then move on?

The fact that its played in such dominance 3 years after its release date speaks volumes for how good the game is.

Oh wait, haha yeah... Microsoft is paying these guys to play Halo right? I knew it.

Face it, whether you want to believe this or not, the fact so many people do play these games, does mean it is GOOD. Just because you dislike it, doesn't mean others do.

Killzone2 is a GOOD game, I enjoy it, nothing against it was so ever, but people on this site believe its the best game ever. KZ2 had tons of hype behind it, is that the only reason it sold 2 million, or maybe the fact it sold 2 million is because its a good game? The same reason why Halo3 sold 11 Million.

Ignorance at its finest.

[Bagsey68]

Looking forward to playing both,that is all!!!

[XabiTheHumble]

Unreal tournament rip off says what? Colorful space marines says what? No recoil says what, Dwarf size barney creatures calling me a jerk says what? Guns that look like they came off of a Toys r Us shelf says what? lol

[BBAM]

But I'm biting, though certainly won't be giving this site hits.
Halo: Reach obviously won't "wipe the floor with Killzone3" Anyone with a braincell can work that out. Both will be great games however, Reach could never 'wipe the floor' because Killzone is technically superior. I've no doubt Halo will exceed Killzone in some areas but not enough to make Killzone look naff...

[bjornbear]

a soon to be released game to a game we've seen 1 level from. HAH

well let people believe what they wish

[HIGGINZOB]

Wasn't Killzone 2 meant to kill Halo 3? Did it? Nope.
Will Killzone 3 kill Halo Reach? Nope.

Stupid argument is stupid.

[spooky205]

Some sony fanboys were butthurt one day that a equally stupid xbox fanboy told them that they woud never get halo. So instead of going off to play games or laugh it up like a gamer would, they instead looked at a recently aquired sony dev making a fps and deemed it a halo killer. Killzone series was never meant to be sonys halo, is was meant to be sonys killzone. It is its own game with its own identity. I enjoyed the killzone games. They bring their own unique attributes to the fps genre.

[Denethor_II]

One of the reasons given is 'Popularity of the Halo universe'. How does the popularity of a brand technically make an individual game, yet to be released, better?? I stopped reading there;)

[jdigitalseven]

They are both FPS, which are incredibly oversaturated these days. halo though has been oversaturated itself, 3 halo games in 3 years...yea you know theres quality there :P. Its funny how a site can compare a fully finished game (halo 19...or lost count by now) to a game in early stages of development (Killzone 3)

[ElementX]

This videogamezone.de is a flame site. Aside from the shoddy Google translations, the articles are usually pure crap.

[ndibu]

The graphics alone were not enough to beat halo in terms of gameplay, fun, multiplayer, critical acclaim (94 > 91) and of course the almighty sales.
From what we have seen, Reach and Kz3 seem set to repeat history. Awesome eye catching stuff vs awesome everything else plus sales...
No other exclusive shooter can compare with halo 3, not in terms of critical acclaim, not in terms of online multiplayer and definately not in terms of sales. And therefore there will never be a halo killer.

[n4gno]

"Videogameszone have analyzed the potential for success of both titles and have come to a decision: Halo: Reach could be commercially and better quality product"

Commercially, probably (sheeps like to buy games they don't like, if others buy it : halo3 sold more than kz2, despite of the fact kz2 was a way better fps, even unreal tournamentn, father of halo clone, who sold nothing, was better), but "better quality" LOL (even it's reach game will be good, it can't compete with best competitive console fps + better graphics + 3D)

[Roozium]

It's pointless to even start a conversation about that both games are awesome because PS3 fanboys will defend PS3 exclusives to the death, even shitgames like "Lair".

[Roozium]

It's pointless to even start a conversation about that both games are awesome because PS3 fanboys will defend PS3 exclusives to the death, even sh*tgames like "Lair".

[Roozium]

Double post, my bad D:

[BigKev45]

Halo reach > Killzone 3. Nuff Said

[RyuDrinksTheDew]

god, fanboys make me want to stop gaming, its so pathetic.

[JohnP26]

Go to Bungie.net

Go to Halo Reach

Go to Official Reach Videos

Then watch the last 5 or 6 videos Bungie has put up.

Then come back here and reply to this comment.

:D

Edit: Here is some help
http://www.bungie.net/proje...

[ForzaGT]

nice non-gamplay videos there lol

[JohnP26]

Its to see what they have been doing with the game. Number one you should watch is Forge World :D

[Bloodyghost]

Why would you WANT to verse the two? Both are going to be ground breaking on there own platform to compare them is to make yourself look like a tool and someone is has nothing less to talk about but bring in flamebait.

Killzone 3>Killzone 2
Halo Reach>Halo 3.

[ForzaGT]

its the amount of improvement between the two series which will prove to the decding factor, you can expect big improvements with ps3 excusives (UC1-UC2,INfamous1-2, motorstorm,LBP) however with the 360, the age of hardware will show on the overaal game quality, you only have to look at the sequels(crackdown,gears,halo3- odst)

[JohnP26]

You know ODST was not a sequel?

It was a big disappoint, but I would not call it a sequel, a expansion maybe.

Also, Reach is going to be a big as improvement as any other game. Just watch videos on Reach, read some stuff on it. They have updated everything in the game from Halo 3, graphics to Forge. Forge 2.0 is going to be one of the best Map Making tools on consoles.

The information is there, if you have the time and strength you can read it.

I also have a Ps3 and Killzone 3 is paid off 100% my man. I am not being a fanboy, just saying. Reach isn't going to be a PoS.

[BuIIetproofish_]

Map editor that allows for some map creation. Nearly every map from every other game will be made in Reach. Call of Duty, Killzone, Gears of War, Uncharted, you name it. Its like Little Big Planet and people making levels from other platformers.

Gametypes that are greatly varied and fully customizable. Infection, Race, Juggernaut, Territories, King of the Hill, Capture the Flag, VIP, Slayer, Headhunter, Stockpile and a few I'm missing.

Four player co-op campign, very open with skulls to modify the game more to your liking. Playing on the hardest difficulty with all skulls is the hardest thing you will experience. It took two players 5 hours to beat it the first of 10 levels. In single play it is next to impossible, as you only get one life per level with several hours needed to complete a single level.

Two player splitscreen for campaign and four player for multiplayer.

Survival mode that's fully customizable and supports player versus player and objectives.

This is just a couple things that affect gameplay, there are plenty of nongameplay things such as theater mode, fileshare and bungie.net. Bungie will constantly update their matchmaking system with user created content. As far as shooters go, nearly every other console shooter is lacking compared to this. Halo: Reach has something for everyone. Its like saying Forza 3 offers more than Gran Turismo 5 to disagree.

[BloodyCHAMP]

halo reach will smash killzone 3 like halo 3 smashed killzone 2
killzone aint no halo killa
just another average shooter trying to take over the throne but fails miserably

[BuIIetproofish_]

That's not fair. While Halo will sell a lot more, Guerrilla never said they were a Halo killer and they made a great game. Some ignorant fans did. The same idiots that think sales don't matter when talking Halo vs Killzone, but sales do matter when talking GT vs Halo.

[tatotiburon]

lmao nobody is playing killzone 2 right now and halo still in the top 5 of most played games on Live...bubububu but the graphics hahahaha LOL...halo is the king of fps, killzone is just killzone, a good fps with great graphics and nobody is playing anymore

[Bumpmapping]

That's all you guys got to play every year besides multiplats lmao

[maxcer]

i'd rather play good multiplat games than a singleplayer fest with greatr graphics due to its linear nature.

[jmallymav]

Kz2 shouldn't be mentioned be any halo, kz2 mp is very disapointing, cmon, no mp party, no way! Ever since halo 1, u can go online with up to 4 players on the same screen, that's is sweet to me, it doesn't have to be 32 players, kz can't put up a party lobby to get up with friends? Horrible...I know on n4g, ppl will say something about graphics, but that's all kz has, and only fanboys will keep barking that

[instrumentalist]

Check it out.

"Halo is a cult. The epic story is told not only in video games, but also in numerous novels, comics and cartoons. Without the legendary Master Chief, the series would be only half as successful."

Yeah. And without a gun, Master Chief would be only half as successful in surviving. I haven't seen such a fun article in a long time, good job!

[Henry Cain]

Reach looks great and all but KZ is where its at.

[EazyC]

Whoah I can't believe something like this got approved. It's funny, how if it were the other way round the amount of comments there'd be saying "PS3 rules" "Halo sucks" "Killzone 3 kicks Reach's ass" etc..

[Claudinho69]

reason #1- cause you a fanboy

[EazyC]

Coming from the guy with Killzone as his avatar....
The Tata Nano (my avatar) is anything but a sign of a fanboy.

[Lykon]

glad i checked the comments before clicking on link and getting kraut rolled

[ASSASSYN 36o]

The fact Halo 3 has hundreds of thousands of players constantly playing it everyday all day (682,810 at the time of this post)vs. two thousand+ in Killzone 2 (2967 at the time of this post).

Longevity, loyalty, and content are the real factors. Sales are irrelevant a few months after release. It's the three years going on four that makes Halo 3 the console FPS crack gamers can't stop getting high off of.

And then there is Halo: Reach... see you all in 4 years while Killzone 3 is collecting dust in your game room.

[hiredhelp]

APART from theres no substance to this article that weve not seen b4.
theres all of non of killzone actual ingameplay pictures nor that of halo reach to be frank.
second its a website that i cannot translate so it could say anything.
also to have to try to say this will beat KILLZONE 3 that will be more than likley use another 50gb blu ray disc.cos the uncompressed textures levels ingameplay videos NO LOADING SCREENS. huge multiplayer maps with vieachles and loads loads more. there for halo reach needs to do all this on a 8.7gb dvd.
even games such as uncharted 2 you know wot gorget uncharted 2, even bad company 2 and too over milked cod series beats halo now.its old news. im sick of hearing about it. dont try to even compete with someone who is 3x bigger than you.cos youll get knocked down. i agree there is a halo fan base.but thats not enough to do this game justice.

[gamefan101]

Reach will definitely have the better sales between the 2,more sales will bring more ppl online obviously,(even tho sales don't make one game better than the other) but how can u guys say it Reach "wipe the floor" wit KZ3.we dont kno much about KZ3 rite now,not a word about multiplayer,the game is still in pre-alpha and visually,already surpassed KZ2.i believe both games will deliver on both systems,with reach,we can expect great sales as the franchise has always did great numbers,and wit KZ3 im expectin 3+ mil atleast,a great game deserves great sales.

[Lets-Game]

the only halo I liked was the first, campaign was nice. the multiplayer in all halo games was always aimed at teens or younger. silly game with lack of skill required. comparing it to unreal or quake puts it to shame or cs as more realistic game. the only reason its so popular online is cause its easy and marketed like mcdonalds.

[JonnyBigBoss]

I've played both for at least half an hour.

Killzone 3 >> Halo: Reach

[Cmoney]

My prediction = halo reach will sell 14 million and killzone 3 will sell 3 million.

You do the math

[rumplstilts]

illzone 3 doesn't have Forgeworld. 'Nuff said.

[Mamajuana]

He's making this claim, when neither game has been released yet. These articles are pathetic.

[jdktech2010]

The only thing I judge games over as to which is better is fun factor (purely opinon) and player base.

I can't judge fun for KZ2 because I haven't played it but I can say that Halo 3 consistently has 100000 players at any given time during the day and it's 3 years old.

I constantly hear KZ2 doesn't have that and it's only a year old. Halo has to be doing something right to have that many players for that long. KZ2 isn't a bad game I'm sure.

Sales numbers are overrated....that's all on hype, etc...look at MW2. Sold amazing, game was not that amazing. Sure, MS hypes Halo: Reach (and they should, it's their core franchise) but the fact that people play it so long after release tells you Bungie does something very right

[mercsfan]

run rampant on this site.
-Killzone 2 had way better graphics, but the gameplay was ass cheeks!
-And it was slow and inaacurate. Weapons felt beast, but sucked.

-Halo 3 had meh graphics, but the gameplay was great!
-Faster, but not COD fast.
-Good weapons

H3>KZ2
HR>KZ3

[Allelujah00]

KILLZON3D once 2011 hits. haha why even compare that to the fps graphic king killzone 3 and soon so be fps gameplay king.

[Pika-pie]

I feel sorry for the people who are to fanboyish to miss out playing and enjoying both.

[SSKILLZ]

Keep dreaming.

I don't even see it as GOTY Material.

[iliimaster]

frakin 3d next gen game... compapred to more of the same with call of duty aspects of unlockables = bs stacked upon more bs

[shnarbis]

killzone 3 > halo reach

[Bellcross]

This is getting old and sad.

grow the fuck up.

[Honor_in_Armor]

Anybody can say Halo: Reach > Killzone 3 or Killzone 3 > Halo: Reach
But can any of you say you played both sufficiently to say one thwarts the other?

Each game will provide a different experience on a different console.
I want to enjoy both for what they have to offer.

So, as of now, I will make my own bold opinion until I've played both enough to form a rational one:

Killzone 3 = Halo: Reach

[Amplitude]

Advertising, Popularity, a more busy Multiplayer, and Playful Content are barely even slightly related to gameplay elements. xD

[webeblazing]

thats what i was thinking reading everybody comments how do that = gameplay. i dont get started with the it change the way for fps forever lol

[Beahmscream]

The only thing thats certain as of now is that Killzone 3 has amazing graphics and Halo Reach has an amazing map editor. It's too early to tell about the rest.

[ForROME]

HALO cleans the others clock because they brought the masses to online console frag fest, they were the first to really get people together and talking about online shooters on consoles as being a real deal

and as their last horrah out the door Im sure they pulled no punches here as well

[tiamat5]

Blasted game media trouble makers! Why do you people listen to them? They are just looking for hits on their sites. They really don't care which is the better shooter

[Threesix]

Oh when I saw this, I knew from the start that there would be a ton of N4G people covering up their ears and yelling NO NO NO NO NO NONONONONONONONONO!!!!!!!! I CAN'T HEAR YOU! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

Killzone 2 was not as good as Halo 3 in terms of controls, community setup, variety of maps, and weapons, and this is coming from someone who played them both online. Halo was just more enjoyable especially because I could use cross game chat with friends who were playing other games and it won't surprise me if Reach is considered the better overall game a couple of years from now.

[Omega Zues]

Need I say more?

[maxcer]

so what? i don't see people complaining that "douchps3fanboy" approves all the lame kenect articles

[GeoramA]

Halo wipes the floor with nothing anymore.

I wipe my ass with the Halo franchise, though.

[Sarobi]

Halo reach has nothing on Killzone 3, just accept it and move on

(I am a PC Fanboy so i think Crysis 2 on PC will destroy both anyways LOL)

[fooltheman]

The problem is that both games are great...
no need to compare..

If halo is still played so much, you could even make the assumption that the Xbox 360 doesn't have other good multiplayer games beside's halo...
That killzone isn't played that much us maybe because ps3 has another audience...

You can't make a valid comparison of why one game is played more online than the other...

[HazzardRiot]

Hahaha Halo raped every 360 fanboy of life, sad really

[silvacrest]

why compare two UNFINISHED/UNREKEASED games?

some crappy site is looking for hits, you guys no what to do

[horndog]

Which will come out victorious?? LOL

This is a tough one but my money is on Haze. LOL

It's a given that Halo wipes it's ass with KZ. It's one of the reasons why KZ was an brownish-orangy color. Guess the chief has been eating his carrots.

[lex-1020]

1st: The Games arn't out yet
2nd: The Games arn't out yet
3rd: The Games arn't out yet
4th: The games arn't out yet
You can't say one thing is better than another when neither are out to actually review yet. I hate flamebait articles like this.

[Whackedorange]

In love with just one system and likes to be at war with the other end and i kind of like it cause it surely is better than Comedy Central

[biggame901]

Seriously, this is pure flamebait at its worst. Comparing two games, one of which won't even be released this year? How about we wait until the games come out before making comparison.

[B1GBOSS]

halo is fun for a little bit but its just to similar to every other halo since the first one. the mp hasnt changed at all, it wasnt even that great to start out with. killzone 3>halo reach, btw i like my graphics from 2011 not 2007.

[RockmanII7]

You are all idiots and fanboys. congratulations.

[ATi_Elite]

Halo: Reach MIGHT sell more than Call of Duty black ops on the 360 but over all COD:bo will kill Halo: Reach in total sales because it's a multiplat.

Killzone 3 will surpass Killzone 2 as the definitive console shooter. Halo: Reach as far as graphics and game play is not on Killzone's level.

Killzone is a hardcore shooter and Halo is for casuals PERIOD. Any No0b can pick up Halo or MW2 and be competitive within 10 minutes. Noobtube or Needler nuff said.

N0obs have ZERO chance versus skilled players of Killzone 2 and BFBC2.

For 360 owners, I'm sorry but Halo is ALL you got and after that the 360 is MW2 then Gears then a big JOKE.

[jdktech2010]

First off your right about MW2, two or three bullet kills, noobtubes and all that is easy.......

Halo can not just be picked up by a noob.....there's a difference in ability that shows up. It takes longer and more shots to kill someone in Halo. For example, 5 (4 body and 1 head) with the DMR. In COD, you would be dead 2 shots in at the latest. It's twitch gameplay.

BFBC:2 is a weird beast....it's not about the K/D or any of that (not supposed to be) it's about doing what your class says. I play a medic and my K/D is like .5 but I'm constantly dying and reviving people.....That game takes teamwork over just killing.

Seriously, Halo takes more skill than you think.

Oh, and nothing is as you say PERIOD. Your opinion is stated but I differe greatly on that opinion. KZ3 will of course beat Reach's Graphics but I don't believe it can beat it's gameplay. There's a reason 100000 people play Halo 3 at any given time and KZ2 doesn't have that fanbase on constantly. I'll let you figure out why

[Scottyabanks]

100,000 people eh? I think not. I wait, sometimes 10- 15 minutes to get a match on the rare occasion I play with my little bro. And The most I've seen on there in the past few months have been around 8,000 people. Maybe I just wasn't playing during peak periods, but that's just what I've noticed.

[N4PS3Fanboys]

People buy KZ3 for the graphics, and Reach for the gameplay.

[jdktech2010]

That's not a post indicative of one bubble....interesting but very correct

[Tangostarr]

IDK if Halo wipes the floor with any other shooter as of late. The start of the series was great and I don't think there would be an XBox without the series but there are a lot of other shooters I would rather play than Halo.

[KingZFlipper]

Please. They'll both be great games.

[Human Analog]

Of course Halo: Reach will out sell Killzone 3. You could brand a nice hot shiny turd with the HALO logo and the fan boys would just eat it up.

Both games have thier merit. But Just because one is more of a commercial success does not make it a better game. And on the other side. Just because something is not as popular, and concidered "underground" that does not make it superior. Just look at radio music and tell me that popularity is a difinitive definition of talent.

[Magna Farta]

as I would say "will overstay it's welcome".

I'm not a fanatical FPS player, but Halo just couldn't keep my attention, I could at least finish Killzone 2.

And multiplayer isn't a factor for me considering I hate people and hate playing against people online even more.

[BeetleJuice]

OMG.

What happened to enjoying games,
I Love Killzone series.
I Love Halo series.

Why is everything a comparison these days, they aren't even similar so how do they compare.
I Havent posted on this site any this year, i come back nothings changed.
I've drifted away from playing games with people into these kinds of things, i feel like if you dont own all these games you dont even have an opinion and neither of these games are out, yet people speculate like they're developing them.

Shout out to the true gamers, there so few of us left.
In gaming there is no such thing as an opinion as everyone plays, the same game different. My favorite weapon might not be yours, so in a sense games play wont be the same either, why bother comparing.
People are so stupid, like news broadcasters bashing a game saying its offensive or manipulating the youth, without ever playing.

I just hope gamer remain that, GAMERS.
We all know there is no discriminating in games, only appreciation.
Me and my brother play different games and some of the same, you think i feel less of him because he doesn't like every game i like and vise versa no, we play cause we love to, thats all that matters.

[lugia 4000]

What Killzone 3 has best:
- Graphics

What Reach has best:
- Single Player
- Theater
- Custom Games
- Ranked and player matchmaking
- Forge world
- Gameplay

Gameplay>Graphics. And only an idiot fanboy would not agree with this.

Which leaves to the conclusion that Killzone 3 is once again just a graphical monster and has nothing more special besides it.

[IneedWeed]

How do you know KZ3 won't have anything good other than graphics? Have you played it yet? Plz don't hate on a game b4 you seen or played it.

[lugia 4000]

Why would you put all that reach has if there won´t be good sales. Killzone 2 wasn´t a success at sales. Killzone almost has the same features than 2. Halo Reach has some few more features than Halo 3 because it will increase the sales alot.

Even Halo 2 beat killzone 2 in terms of multi and single player. Except for the graphics of course.

What im saying is the only thing of hype in killzone 3 and 2 are the graphics.

Halo Reach has alot more to hype at.

[WLPowell]

Killzone's gameplay is better than Halo's, it's not Rat race to the best guns and spawn camp to be uberleet, you won't last doing that in KZ2's multiplayer. There's strategy to it, as I get destroyed in Killzone's MP, but can jump in Halo 3's/ODST's MP and clean house after not touching the game for months. Killzone's MP is far deeper and more rewarding than any Halo game, and if Killzone 3 is looking to add to that, it'll probably be more rewarding and deeper than Reach. The only gameplay I get from Halo is a lot of generic guns and a lot of useless ideas they call guns/weapons that noone uses unless they're just screwing around, played in some of the worst decissions made in level design following closely behind Modern Warfail 2.

[Scottyabanks]

Let me guess, you're one of those few people who still play halo 3 with the rest of the noobs whose parents picked up a copy out of the bargain bin at gamestop after finally upgrading them from the wii to the 360, and you still play it because every time you play a real hardcore gamers' game like KZ2 you get butt raped every 10 seconds after you spawn in multiplayer and for the life you, can't survive the first helghast with the rocker launcher on the first campaign level on easy. And because of your noob fanboyish ways, you're blaming the gameplay.

Halo gameplay= LAG f***fest. KZ2 gameplay= NO NOOBS! As a matter of fact I am glad more people bought Halo than KZ2, cause that means I dont have to play with people like you!

[lugia 4000]

I don´t own a wii. What´s so pro about killzone? Your controller sucks so I don´t think the gameplay will handle it. The maps only have 1 way and in there is where the killfest shows up. In Halo 3, to prove its skillful we have MLG, and actually a burst weapon that requires skill to point at. Your sniper fucking sucks and you have automatic weapons. When you say Killzone is more skillful than Halo 3 you are a fanboy.
I have a positive KD spread in killzone . Your game sucks so much only 2000 people are online playing it.
I didn´t even played the campaign. The MP maps sucked so much I have sold the game already.
That´s right your game is only made of graphics. Now don´t go spread your rage over a game that is better than yours asshole.

[Tangostarr]

You didn't even play the campaign? How can you know it's all about graphics then? Your arguments are all over the place dude. Sounds like you don't like anything really after reading your rant. "Your controller sucks so I don't think the gameplay will handle it." Not sure what that means really. You don't like automatic weapons? Most FPS games have them, I know Halo does... It's a game dude, no need to foam at the mouth if you don't like it.

[Scottyabanks]

I shall correct your arguments as per your last comment:

- The sniper takes patience skill and precision. The six axis allows for very finely tune your scope. No average player can pick up the sniper in KZ2. And that helps balance game play. That way when you're out in the open you don't have 20 snipers lined up across the map waiting to take you out.
- It's a controller no one is forcing you to use it. If you want to use your 360 controller to play KZ2, go to xcm.com and buy a cross battle adapter that way you wont have an excuse when you're getting butt raped online.
- There is a carbine in KZ2 that fires single round shots. Another weapon that requires skill and precision.
- As i said earlier, you haven't played through the campaign because you cant get past the first level on easy. I've beaten it on elite.
- The maps are excellent and when utilized correctly, offer many opportunities for a tactical advantage over your enemies. So sorry, but running into a room with a rocket launcher like a noob doesn't work in KZ2.
- And you're right, KZ2 is made of sweet, beautiful graphical goodness.
- And i'm not spreading rage, I am perfectly calm (:

[codyodiodi]

Halo is by far the best first person shooter out there. Whether Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3 or Halo: Reach, the games are just polished to perfection.

[BlackRoseDelt]

My fetus is better than your fetus.

[BuIIetproofish_]

I can't believe this shit is still going. Both are good game. The problem with Killzone is that it lacks options, you can't make maps for the game and the gametypes aren't fully customizable. Halo also has the options for land and air vehicles and a larger weapon sandbox. Customization is the key to fun.

[IneedWeed]

I think these 2 games are very different to be compared to each other. Gears 3 and KZ3 should be compared. Planning on getting both Halo and KZ3. Rage and Crysis 2 also.

[Ascalon94]

I personally like both games/ series and enjoy them both, but Halo:Reach will beat the fuck out of Killzone 3. KZ3 might looks better but Halo:Reach is boss.

[tunaks1]

pfft
haze>all

[wolfofashes]

Another stupid article...let's get this straight when it comes to define which game will be the number one it all crashes down to two little things.Gameplay and Design,the first one is a question of the player's preference,the second we will only se when the game ships.Both side of fanboys need to shut up...Neither graphics nor sales determine anything.Killzone 3 will be the superior when it comes to technical graphics( because it's exclusive to the most powerful console) and Halo Reach will sell more(Halo is an acclaimed franchise),but not even all the polygons and effects in the world or all the sales can't save a game if it does don't play well or have a bland design.At the end it all comes down to user preference so please stop making yourselves look like morons by trying to downplay great franchises and enjoy the games of your liking.

[WLPowell]

Halo Reach won't wipe the floor, because it's basically Bungie saying "yeah we've been fucking up the game since Combat Evolved, we still can't even get weapons balanced correctly" Yet Killzone 3 is actually making the game deeper than 2. Halo will always be the definitive generic shooter, so I don't see how the newest entry being nothing more than fan-service will wipe the floor with a game that has been compared to Modern Warfare, Bad Company 2, Crysis 2, etc. All Reach has going for it is, "we appeal to lowest common denominator so we sell a lot!" good for you, ODLC was lame and overpriced, and Halo 3 proved you guys are a one trick pony that got lucky by being the next step of console shooter that got it right, following Perfect Dark. That's why instead of coming up with new FPS multiplayer modes or new guns that aren't cheap superkill guns, you given us warthog racing matches, a lame version of Horde, a furniture editor, and camera modes. and yet the only way they can make Halo good again is by simply turning it back into Combat Evolved. Sorry MS, I already have combat evolved.

[Scottyabanks]

I'm not even going to bother reading this article. Let's put it this way, there is going to be a what?... 5 month period between Reach and KZ3? Yeah, so I'm pretty sure if there is anything in Reach that Guerrilla feels is a must for KZ3, then they will put it in there.

[Evoluti0n]

Not sure why I'm commenting but...

KZ3 Graphics > Halo: Reach Graphics
Halo: Reach Gameplay > KZ3 Gameplay
Halo: Reach Content > KZ3 Content

The sheer amount of content Bungie's last Halo game will have, will be a sight to see, seriously. Never been disappointed by Bungie, minus Halo 2's ending, so I don't see how they could f@ck this one up either. Actually? I know they won't.

My opinion of course.

9/14/2010

[onanie]

Commercially, perhaps, but quality? How could they know even before the titles are out?

[RyuCloudStrife]

U know why???? 3D mophakuers XD

[RockmanII7]

Do you even have a 3D TV?

[DFresh]

Who gives a flying f*** which game is better?!
At the end of the day if you have both consoles you get to play both games so you win as a gamer then just some fan boy that only owns 1 console and can't the play the other game that's only their own console of choice.

In my eyes I like Killzone more then Halo because it's more mature, more gritty, more violent, and more epic when it comes to graphical/technological performance.

Online multiplayer is fun on both games and the stories between Halo and Killzone are different so there you go.

It's all about taste.

Both games are fun.

End of story.

[zu4G]

appreciate and loved games like HALO.. but gamers around the world dont like halo that much, they prefer KILLZONE 2/ KILLZONE 3 rather.. oh it's true

[kraze07]

Didn't even bother clicking on the article with a title like that. I can understand if you have a tight wallet, but anyone that can afford both games should play them both.

[earbus]

I wasnt aware of a janitor class i either game i will get both but have more friends who actually talk on 360 with get this spoken word crazy i know , hope k3 has a party system this time.

[doughboy2008]

If people actually waited before saying one game is better than the other, when the two aren't even out.

[Tron_Rocks]

Killzone what???

It has never been as good, it might push a few more polygons (drab looking and the same looking bad guys throughout)

But Killzone has NEVER played as well (mushy controls)
Story is crap, sound is crap, online is crap compared to Halo 3.

Halo Reach will sell twice as much in 1/2 the time and will sell many many more SUPERIOR Xbox 360's...

[SlaughterMeister]

...and a bit of a fanboy, I'll admit. I definitely like my PS3 a lot more than the 360 that sits dormant on the shelf next to it for literally months at a time.

BUT--Halo is, and has been since the first game, the best FPS on any platform. It is the only game I am jealous of the 360 for, it's great.

I'm looking forward to KZ3, because the second game was a lot of fun. The graphics are amazing in both titles in the series, and the gameplay is solid. Story-wise, the Killzone universe is quite weak. Halo, on the other hand, is very engrossing.

Reach will rock KZ3, and blow it completely out of the water. But that doesn't mean that KZ3 won't be good. It will be like if Superman came head-to-head with The Terminator. Both can kick serious ass, but head-to-head, it's no contest.

[kr9091]

It's true that Halo will most likely outsell Killzone 3. However, Killzone 3 will push the industry forward with new tech and methods that will be passed down to other developers.

[ILLINOIS]

Gaylo Reach Around will suck like every other Gaylo game. Killzone 3 is the way better game.

[zu4G]

that star wars like halo suck my ass.. it's fucking cheap.. halo suck

[eaSomeLegend]

halo is shit. killzone 3 owns thats a fact.
Just cause some Fanboy posts a bullshit story
all you 360 gamers actually believe this crap?..
face the facts Halo is old news...and Ps3 is coming
out on top this year just face it

[swinesucker]

I like both franchises and finally we will get a decent Halo game in Reach. The graphics for 3 were bone dead crap and anyone who argues otherwise is playing on a 20 inch tv. Killzone 2 still looks and plays awesome just you don't get into a 32 player lag server. IMHO playing 3 and KZ2 I would choose KZ2 in a frickin' heartbeat. The class system is beyond excellent. The maps are mainly too small yes and lag is a problem at times but it is still honestly the most brutal FPS on the consoles. Halo couldn't even touch it. While Reach does indeed look to be the best in the series, the series imo is very overrated. KZ3 is my choice and I do admit to being a graphic whore so my choice does have its influence. If they really do noob up KZ3 I will have to take a good look at what they have done. I am a bit scared they are changing it too much. These games are for opposite systems and we already know Reach is sub HD but with improved graphics for sure. It really cannot touch KZ3 imo, that game is going to take people by storm once they realize Sony is going to put its muscle behind it and that it is also 'noobing' it a bit for the masses. Reach will sell the usual and it will be better than anything else on the box and it can definitely stand up to KZ3 but I don't think it could actually win the fight. I call a 6th round knockout by KZ3 for various reasons.

[WLPowell]

but Killzone 3 will be nominated for more GOTY awards.

[Neko_Mega]

I love Halo but better then KZ3? Both are very good games but both have things that make them better.

Unlike Halo you can blow someones head off in KZ3 (Going by what we seen in KZ2), Halo Reach as alittle more faster playing Vs KZ3.

They have their own things that make them great, I like both so this person can f @ff.