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Sony Adds New DRM Protection to PS3 to Combat Pirates

Earlier this year, Sony updated their Terms of Service information to add in a blurb about updates and the inclusion of automatic updates and upgrades. As Sony puts it in the Terms of Service: 'Automatic updates or upgrades which may change your current operating system, cause a loss of data or content or cause a loss of functionalities or utilities'. After much waiting and wondering, the function of this feature has been made clear and that's thanks to the recent firmware update of 3.41.

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HeroXIV5022d ago

I'm a little confused. This is for movies right? So you can't play downloaded movies on the PS3 anymore? This is kinda cool but I wonder why this is the first I'm hearing of this DRM?

HDgamer5022d ago

Lol I doubt that. There is always a way around that type of DRM.

Bargu5022d ago

Still works here, dont talk bullshit

dustgavin5022d ago

You can still watch dvd and Blu-ray rips. This usually only works for movies that are a cam copy or R5. Plus, this feature has been out for at least a few months already.

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gaffyh5021d ago

It seems like it's for 1:1 copies of Blu-rays or DVDs I think.

WhittO5021d ago (Edited 5021d ago )

People still burn their Downloaded movies to... to... DVDs ?

haha, I stream everything from my compy, Music, Videos, Photos etc.

Or if I can't stream for some reason, just copy the movie to a memory stick and transfer it to ps3, takes about 5 min (instead of the 1-2 hours burnin DVD Movies.

I don't think pirate blurays are much of a problem since it would be cheaper to buy legally than to download and burn to a blank bluray disk!

a_squirrel5021d ago

It is for 1:1 copies. You know, I guy buys a copy, and a bunch of blurays, then just burns the copys, and sells them. Doesn't work in ps3, no profit for that other guy, cause hes caught.

Old news

adlt5021d ago

Encountered this problem with 1/160 of my movies...

The movie that didn't run was "The Losers" was playing from an external hard drive.

PirateThom5021d ago

May not be the DRM or anything, it could just be the codec used on the movie.

I have some files that will not play either streaming or running from the internal PS3 drive until I convert them to another format and they play.

This could be the same issue.

adlt5021d ago

No, it gave me a message "This movie is protected by Cinavia" or something like that and wouldn't start the movie haha:D

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evilmonkey5015022d ago

yup .exactly right. This was in the spring update, not 3.41

Biggunz5021d ago

leave it to examiner to report on the obvious and old and pawn it off as new "news". "examiner, so easy a caveman could write for them." GOTTA GET DEM HITZ!!!!!!

MMFGaming5022d ago

Wait...so if you plug a hard drive with .avi rips of movies on it, you won't be able to run it with sound?

Kors5022d ago

the original disk was protected by a Cinavia code.

http://www.cinavia.com/page...

rdgneoz35022d ago

@Kors I wonder how popular the Cinavia coding is for movies?

duplissi5021d ago

sooo... just re-encode the movie with another audio format.. right? wouldnt that remove the cinavia code?

nveenio5021d ago

This is what TVersity is for.

Motorola5021d ago

WOW. If re encoding is the solution, then why even make this DRM? Its pretty easy with the right software...

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coolasj195021d ago

I use Playstation Media Server. Converts all those files into something my PS3 can play. All I had to do was install the thing. And as an add. Abit small bonus. I can use it to stream to my 360 :P

Pandamobile5021d ago

It sucks because I have a bunch of ripped movies that I won't be able to play on my PS3 now.

bobcostus5022d ago

Solution: Don't steal movies.

Neo Nugget5022d ago

$15 is too much moneyz!1!11!

HDgamer5022d ago

Solution they shouldn't be releasing dvd quality and blu ray movies out 10 months before the official releases.

MMFGaming5022d ago

How is the PS3 going to be able to tell the difference between a video file you make personally (say a family video) and a DVD rip of a movie you downloaded from torrents. How is it going to be able to distinguish the difference between a pirated movie and a legitimate, digital copy of a movie you purchased online.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say pirated movies don't come with a special encoding that screams "PIRATED"

ThanatosDMC5022d ago

Ah, this might explain the rip of Astro Boy i downloaded some time ago and the voice changed right in the middle when Astro was talking to the girl after he fixed her phone.

gravesg5021d ago

no it doesn't, with the drm .. the movie wont play at all.

ThanatosDMC5019d ago

Dunno, i didnt play it on the PS3.

rdgneoz35022d ago

Basically,
"Movies protected by Cinavia technology carry inaudible codes embedded by the copyright owner in their audio tracks that indicate where and how they are allowed to be used.

For example, movies that are being released to theaters can carry a Cinavia code that indicates that they are supposed to be duplicated by professional replicators and played back on professional projection equipment only.

Movies that are released on Blu-ray Disc, DVD, or by authorized download services, can carry a different Cinavia code, indicating that these movies are intended for use by consumers, but with limitations regarding whether or how they can be copied.

The Cinavia codes are designed to stay in the audio tracks wherever they appear, including after they are copied, converted to different formats, or captured by a camcorder."

So unless you embed your own home movies with the code, then you'll be fine.

Jay5205022d ago

haven't you heard, It only does everything.

Matthew945021d ago

it only does removing ps2 bc

WLPowell5021d ago

There wasn't enough people using it for sony to warrant keeping it (Both other os and PS2 bc). There's seriously more people complaining about it than there were people who would realistically use it.

DevastationEve5021d ago

Sony's strategy: shove useless features down your throat to get you believe it's "only" $600, then cut out the ones they admit being "non-essential to gaming".

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Dramscus5022d ago

The problem with this is that programs that convert movies from one format into another make another recording of a movie. Which like said above would be like a home video.

From what the site says it'll only work on direct clones of the movie.

tatical5021d ago

@Dramscus
The site says even if the movie is converted to another format the copy protection will still be in place. I don't really see that happening, but thats how they designed it. I transcode all of my HD movies (mkv):
Video is passthrough
Audio is transcoded (and downsampled) from DTS to mp4 stereo@320kbps

"The Cinavia codes are designed to stay in the audio tracks wherever they appear, including after they are copied, converted to different formats, or captured by a camcorder."

Eamon5021d ago

Does this also count to people who rip their own purchased movies into avi?

If not, then I fail to see how it would target the pirated versions too.

ReBurn5021d ago

Ripping movies you purchase to AVI typically violates the copyright. You don't really own the movie. You just own the right to watch it in the way the studio tells you that you can. So to studios ripping a DVD to AVI and watching it on your iPod actually is piracy.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers4d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken4d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g4d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing4d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H94d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola4d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6694d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle4d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg5d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos5d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola4d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies25d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken25d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga25d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken25d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6425d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long25d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197224d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic24d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12525d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91325d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer25d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91324d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit24d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher25d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6924d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit24d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher25d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken25d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197224d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic24d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2325d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218325d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder25d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts25d ago

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"... off a cliff"

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