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Kinect IS a new console - you better believe it

Dualshockers: When Microsoft first announced Kinect as Project Natal then one of the phrases that they threw around was that they were treating it like the launch of a new console. At the time I thought they were just being silly, as if releasing a peripheral is anything like a new console launch -ridiculous! Since that statement Microsoft have confirmed their exact stance on Kinect at E3 2010 along with the pricing structure for the device. Now that we know that Kinect is $150 and is only compatible with Kinect games then any potential customers should take Microsofts words seriously because you might as well be buying a completely separate console.

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Hyrius5043d ago (Edited 5043d ago )

I don't believe it. :)

@ Games4M - Rob : XD

Nicaragua5043d ago

I want to believe

The truth is out there…

Cloudberry5043d ago

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I thought it was a Naruto's referencedattebayo.

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Lightsaber5043d ago

if it was a new console it work with out a 360 but it doesnt so its not its just a crappy add on.

D4RkNIKON5043d ago

lol "The truth is out there"

Kinect is a new console LOL!
http://playstationeu.i.lith...

Genesis55043d ago

Looks like a camera. Consoles are bigger.

karl5043d ago

more like.. believe and then PAY

pustulio5043d ago (Edited 5043d ago )

"Kinect IS a new console."

lolololololololololololololol

R u St00p3d or what? at most is a new camera.

nickjkl5043d ago

look here people the first console without any processing power

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Inside_out5043d ago (Edited 5043d ago )

M$ Kinect is a terrific device designed to expand the xbox 360's core audience and bring in some of the casual gamers that have made the Wii the top selling console this gen. In that respect, Kinect will be a huge success for M$.

Comparing M$ Xbox 360/Kinect to Sega is like comparing apple's and oranges, but the clown fanboy who wrote this piece knows that. M$ has 40+ million consoles...25 million of which are on XBL. Kinect will be the only game in town come this holiday season. It is priced right and will offer the casual market the best deal out there.

As for the hardcore 360 gamer...well, Halo reach releases in 5 weeks, fable 3 is out this year in October followed by 3 huge multi-player FPS's, MOH, Crysis and COD Black ops. All Multi-plats on 360 outsell there counter parts on PS3 by the millions. WHY...they look and play better on 360...plain and simple.

M$ has all the bases covered. What has Sony to offer...$399 bundle...lol...LBP 2.0 and a car sim. $4000 3D TV and $150 glasses. Sony has already given up this year.

@ DARkNimrod...looks like you were tagged outside the Best Buy in this video talking like all PS3 kids....LMFAO.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Here's the hot seller for Sony this holiday...Hope it comes with the $399 bundle.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

-Alpha5043d ago (Edited 5043d ago )

First, Kinect is not a game. Stop calling it that.

Those multiplats do not "look" better on the 360, and even if they did not noticeably. Yes they outsell "by the millions" but that's because they sell by the millions. The difference doesn't matter, they are still multiplat titles that any PS3 owner can still enjoy. Selling more on the 360 doesn't hurt PS3 owners, except maybe fanboys who hold invisible stock. You'd be better off bragging about the exclusive DLC.

I will not be surprised if Kinect sells well but it's funny that defenders of Kinect (not that it's wrong to defend the product for what it is) don't personally seem to want it or even anticipate it as core gamers themselves. It goes to show that the core fans don't care for it for themselves.

So it's not as much a "revolution" in gaming like originally revealed, and though it still seems to promise something, that hope is rigorously met with some healthy skepticism.

I wont be surprised if Kinect does do well with casuals, but it's met with some equal skepticism. But personally, I do not care for it and I believe many others sincerely don't either. Even my hardcore 360/Halo friends called it a waste of time and an EyeToy. The hardcore already don't care for motion control and Kinect is the definition of that.

DigitalRaptor5041d ago (Edited 5041d ago )

Don't waste your time on him. He's beyond hope.

Kinect was never going to be a "revolution" in gaming. Its limitations speak for themselves. It can never be serious contender against REAL games.

And if Cez truly cared about the system he supports he would be against the idea of Kinect and the overly casual focus MS is giving it. It's a total waste of resources that would be better spent aquiring talent and producing amazing games for the industry and loyal gamers who have supported their system since the beginning.

I mean what does MS have lined up for 2011? Gears of War 3, and that Kingdoms game.

Hitman07695043d ago

Kinect, Kinect... How bad will you fail?

Nicaragua5043d ago

Good comparison to the Mega-CD because that is exactly how I see Kinect – an overpriced gimmick that not only adds nothing to the gaming experience but actually take something away with its lack of accuracy and tactile feedback.

Ebay is gonna be chock full of these things by this time next year.

Motion5043d ago

Lol, Gamestop is going to have to open a new chain just to sell pre-owned Kinects.

DigitalRaptor5041d ago

Hopefully people see the light before MS makes a killing.

DelbertGrady5043d ago

"About the Author: Rob is our resident UK based contributor who has been gaming for the last 30 years. Favourite games are online, team based, third person shooters like MGO and SOCOM but he also loves a game with a good story. Self confessed trophy whore."

Writing for Dualshockers.com

I'm really surprised that he doesn't like Kinect. Really.

Games4M - Rob5043d ago

Wow, your a detective genius. You managed to go all the way to my website and find out this top secret information you should get a starring role in the next Alpha Protocol game.

Of course you completely overlooked the fact that i dont mention my own personal opinion on Kinect other than my thoughts that it will fail based on the perfectly logical reasoning i put in the article.

I actually did a bit of digging of my own and uncovered your bio - "Soda Popinsky: medicore whining tool with an opinion nobody cares about, hence his 1 bubble."

Interesting stuff.

IdleLeeSiuLung5043d ago (Edited 5043d ago )

LOL, perfect reasoning... really? Your reasoning is perfect?

All I need to say is: when the iPhone came out, everybody thought it was over priced. We all know how that went!

My reason for Kinect will sell

a) amazon.com pre-orders have been strong 3-4 months in advance despite the price. MS already did the price tasting, that is probably why several e-tailers listed it early at the $150 tag. Yet it sold well...

b) people other than the n4g.com crowd (that you cater to) everyone seem to enjoy it.

Here are plenty of people enjoying Kinect: http://www.kinect.me/

Kinect is not aimed at hardcore gamers. Ask the casual gamers, as they seem to love it.

"Compare this to the Wii which uses the Wiimote in every game or the Playstation Move which is an option for pre-existing (and upcoming) games. Anyone who buys a Wii has everything they need for playing Wii games, anyone who buys Move very likely already own one of the many titles that will be enabled with Move such as Heavy Rain, Resident Evil 5, or upcoming blockbuster titles like Killzone 3."

My question to you then becomes, if current games work great the way they are, why would I want an alternative control scheme, pay extra and potential experience sub-par experience? After all, I'm used to using my controller for most games I currently play....

To me you sound like a fanboy praising Sony, yet bashing MS.

Your profile is interesting stuff indeed.

Games4M - Rob5043d ago (Edited 5043d ago )

I didnt say my reasoning was perfect as though i am some sort of ultimate being, i said it was perfectly logical as in it is not illogical. Whether you agree with the reasoning is your own choice but it is there nonetheless. Your own reasons for why Kinect will suceed are also perfectly logical - its simply a difference of opinion.

As for your question about why use an alternate control scheme then the answer is that in most cases it simply works better. Anyone who has played resident evil 4 of the Wii knows that using the wii-mote to aim is incrediably accurate and intuitive so using that same method of control in games like SOCOM 4, Killzone 3 and Resi 5 is a natural progression. If your happy using your pad then thats fine because that option is there but for people like me who want to then there is the option of using Move.

How many Kinect games can you play using the pad you love so much ?

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Poseidon5043d ago

why is it always trophy whore not trophy tramp, trophy slut?

XactGamer5043d ago

^^^ fanboy fight and I mean "all" of the above.

Bedrockk5043d ago

i agree w/ Rob's article - i think kinect is going to be a FAIL. its technology just doesn't seem responsive enough. i'm on the fence until i see a GOOD lightsaber or fighting game.

iiprotocolii5043d ago

After getting hands-on with connect, I must say that it isn't what some folks are making it out to be. Response? It's not 1:1, which kind of takes away from a fluid experience. Before I even consider getting the Kinect, Microsoft needs to showcase a game that I, as a *gamer* and not a casual plebeian, am attracted to. They have some nifty applications that will definitely grab the attention of the less-than-casual crowd, but nothing that gamers will deem purchase worthy.

Alos885043d ago

Title might as well be Kinect IS a new console- deal with it.
In fact, that should be the new slogan for Kinnect- deal with it.

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Activision team is opening a new game studio in Poland 'Elsewhere Entertainment' to build new AAA IP

Microsoft's Activision subsidiary announced today that it is opening a new game development studio to take advantage of the huge talent pool growing in Poland. It'll be the second Activision studio based in the region, joining Infinity Ward Krakow, although this studio is, in fact, not working on Call of Duty.

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Psychonaut853d ago

They’re not working on Call of Duty? Give it time.

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Microsoft's quest for short-term $$$ is doing long-term damage to Windows, Surface, Xbox, and beyond

Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation, and it all revolves around Satya Nadella and CFO Amy Hood's plans to increase every department's margins.

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Brazz5d ago

"The plan to move Xbox games to other platforms is codenamed "Latitude" internally, and I know there's debate and unease at Microsoft about whether or not this is a good idea. More upcoming Microsoft-owned games slated for PlayStation are already being developed. At least for now, they're potentially obvious games you'd most likely expect. And yes, while it's true Microsoft is a prolific publisher on PlayStation already, it has typically revolved around specific franchises like Minecraft. From what I've heard, Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation, and it all revolves around Satya Nadella and CFO Amy Hood's mandate to increase every department's margins. "

Yeah, they are going to kill Xbox hardware.

Xeofate5d ago

"Yeah, they are going to kill Xbox hardware."

It's for the best.

Quit stringing along xbox fans and screwing over PlayStation owners.

crazyCoconuts5d ago

Take good care of those Xboxes if you have 'em ...

outsider16245d ago

An Xbox game on a Playstation. Never in my years of gaming did i ever thought this was gonna happen.

jznrpg4d ago

It is dying anyway so doesn’t make much of a difference

VersusDMC4d ago

No way can they get rid of the hardware as probably 90% of game pass subscribers are hardware users.

Highly doubtful those users will move to PC or Cloud to subscribe there and the competition (Sony and Nin) will never have gamepass on their system.

If they want to keep the current subscribers, they need to keep releasing new hardware.

PSPSA4d ago

I'm not convinced, why then announce that they're actually working on the next-generation Xbox with “the largest technical leap”, and also looking into handhelds now?

Rols4d ago

Not like MS don’t drop things a hot potato if it is not performing. Look at MS history to see products or platforms discontinued. Xbox is not a charity for MS, it needs to make money and the ABK was the last roll of the dice for Xbox.

purple1014d ago

Xbox hardware team members have been incorporated into surface team

This perhaps shows they are not expecting big things from Xbox as a separate entity

Abear214d ago

Seems like they are planning to win next gen. All the acquisitions were this generation and nobody except Xbox fans expect games from the acquisitions any time soon.

I’m sure Microsoft can afford to lose money on the short term, pretty sure they do risk assessment when acquiring many companies and spending billions, they’ll be fine lol.

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gold_drake5d ago

i think it will kill off the xbox brand. windows will be fine.

but there is and would be a chance that xbox might be killed off in the future. if they fail to make the money they put in. imo.

S2Killinit5d ago

They wont kill it, but they will go fully PC while keeping xbox as a brand, and go multiplatform for the most part. They will also work tirelessly to diminish console gaming’s importance.

PRIMORDUS5d ago

It would be best if Xbox goes the way of Sega, just make and publish games. I know I myself will not support them at all with buying games from them, you all can. 🙃

ChasterMies5d ago

The Xbox brand will live for the games. I don’t expect Microsoft to entirely drop out of gaming hardware. They make Surface tablets and laptops. They’ll make Xbox branded hardware for those that want it.

shadowT5d ago

"Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation"

Forza and Starfield next?

Skuletor5d ago

Starfield would be no surprise and there's the rumor that it will come to Playstation after the Shattered Space DLC, Forza (along with Halo and Gears of War) I find less likely but I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually end up on PlayStation too, especially if Xbox give up on hardware and go the Sega route.

shinoff21835d ago

Not to worried about forza. I'd rather see others like what inxile and obsidian are working on. Starfield sounds like it needs more time in the oven so let it cook first imo. If starfield and it's a small if does release on ps it'll be in the fall around the time for dlc or right at the dlc and come packaged with it.

-Foxtrot5d ago

In the words of Phil Spencer when he was talking about Nintendo last year

“It's just taking a long time for Microsoft to see that their future exists off of their own hardware"

S2Killinit5d ago

Yup. MS are a cancer to console gaming.

Aloymetal5d ago

100%!!
I wonder what happened to that dude that was always here posting those court articles with cartoons about MS spending all those billions in studios. He suddenly disappeared, I guess he doesn't like bad news when the green brand is in trouble. No new articles from him as of late...

PRIMORDUS5d ago

Yup, and it's only going to keep spreading.

Outside_ofthe_Box5d ago

Phil Spencer's words always comes back to bite him lol

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk776d ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE6d ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware7306d ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor6d ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos6d ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor6d ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos6d ago

I think it's becoming clear based on matt bootys comments there's no future for any IP that can't sell above 10 million within the launch window. But is also a small game that gives them prestige

/S it's beyond a joke right now

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