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PS3 Sells 38.1 Million Units Worldwide, Trails Xbox 360 by 3 Million Units

Sony has released their sales data for Quarter 1 2010 and sales are looking up for hardware.

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Karooo5024d ago

yesss, thats why the price drop from microsoft lol

Carlton Banks5024d ago (Edited 5024d ago )

Remember when it was 8mil and xbox fanboys said Ps3 would never come close, lol and PS3's killer app didn't even release yet

Man is this holiday going to suck for them.

nygamer285024d ago Show
snipermk05024d ago

Engaging flame suit V.2.1..
Activating fanboy shields..

Press any key to continue (WARNING! Content following maybe hazardous to mind and/or body)..

FURY__UNLEASHED5024d ago

He can't spin this or come up with anything intelligent to say, so he resorts to petty insults!

FURY__UNLEASHED5024d ago

PS3 is barely behind and is clearly closing in fast. Everyone besides 360 fanboys agree PS3 will have out-sold 360 by next year.

Point is, PS3 is selling better than 360. And that is a fact.

Arnon5024d ago (Edited 5024d ago )

Point is, it doesn't matter. What does this have to do with playing video games? Also... Isn't the difference between 38.1 and 41.7, 3.6?

Why o why5024d ago (Edited 5024d ago )

games make me wet Not Sales. Sales just help put guys who value them more in a panic and quieten them.

we'll done Sony but its your consistency and variety of quality games that impresses me more. trust me

I don't get a penny from your sales and its not mattered as the ps3 has always been supported from launch so being second won't change much from my standpoint other than to rub in the sales-led noses of the types that value them more than they should

bviperz5024d ago

I'm with YoY, with Sony really starting to heat up in the gaming department with awesome exclusive after awesome exclusive, it isn't hard to figure out why Sony has done it the way they did. In the end, gamers play games, not sales.

moparful995024d ago

LOL at johnnybravo. Poor guy, his whole world was turned upside down in the span of a single article.. It's like that animal that doesn't realize it has been mortally wounded and continues to try and get up.. Its rather pathetic, someone show some compassion and put him out of his misery.

N4XBOXG5024d ago

Poor johhny you know the playstation 3 has been selling better than xbox or the xbox would still have that 8 million lead it started with.

presto7175024d ago (Edited 5024d ago )

Wasn't the gap like 9 million when the ps3 slim came out. If I was an exec at xbox, I'd be sh*tting myself right now. I think I will be a shame for xbox when PS3 passes it. Even with a head start and cheapness they still could not hold on.

Anon19745024d ago (Edited 5024d ago )

JB said "If your "fact" of PS3 is selling better than 360 then PS3 wouldn't be behind 3 million units."

Stop and think for just a moment here. If the 360 were selling better, the lead over the PS3 would be larger than the 8 million it was at it's peak, not much, much smaller at 3 million.

So as indeed the lead over the PS3 has shrunk to almost nothing, yes. It is a fact that the PS3 is selling better than the 360 and I don't mean to burst your bubble here - but it's actually been selling better than the 360 for quite some time. Years even.

Edit Below. Actually, it's 41.7 versus 38.32 for the PS3. That's 3.38 million difference, and yes. That's quite a difference from over 8 million at it's peak.

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Rainstorm815024d ago

To all the blind loyalists that thought it was utterly immpossible for a console company that sold over 200mil in two generations to not catch a 8 mil lead...........

(props to blaze)

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secksi-killer5024d ago

are all giddy with excitement over this news. but is it me, or have microsoft been sitting on 41mil consoles for ages??

i think we need to hear how many m$ have shifted.

SpLinT5024d ago

halo reach hasnt released yet and neither has gears...

lets not forget Kinect which will sell like barbie dolls

Cyrax_875024d ago

Halo and Gears have actually been released, it's called Halo Wars, Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST, Gears and Gears 2. So what makes Halo Reach and Gears 3 so special?

fcpthebest5024d ago

#1.1.16

People arent even discussing PC xD

"Starcraft 2 > ps3 and 360 sales" ===> FaLsE
Look at mw2 sales, halo 3 sales, uncharted 2 sales, heck the list I dont have time for it....
PC is not dead but isnt above the consoles... xD

jaysquared5024d ago

"Remember when it was 8mil and xbox fanboys said Ps3 would never come close, lol and PS3's killer app didn't even release yet"

Remember when the PS2 had like a 110 million console lead on top of the Xbox and the Wii??

Rot_in_Fail5024d ago

per year/month/week whatever, eod.

Mr_Bun5024d ago

Can't wait for Greenburg's spin....I mean response

nickjkl5024d ago (Edited 5024d ago )

Edit:dont forget ps3 sells 38.1 million units 360 ships 41.1 million units

do you guys know what this means the tides are a changing im about to brain storm a speech what has the ps3 came through over the years with articles supporting my points and everything

it all began in 2005

the 360 launches with halo

one year later it has sold 10 million units

the future looks bleak for ps3

as microsoft pays for third party exclusives dealing crushing blows

during this time rrod waves plague the market

the future looks bleak for ps3

with media and consumers(cough 4chan)alike haunting the ps3
"it has no games it will never have graphics advantage its the worst system ever built its to hard to program for"

as sony say on their chairs urging players to wait the time will come and when it does we will strike

360 bros were dominating the ps3 in message boards dangling gears of war 2 over our heads touting its amazing graphics

skips to 09

and then the time had come sony had pointed all guns at the 360 launching killzone 2 uncharted 2 little big planet infamous demon souls ratchet and clank
360 bros were shocked at the lineup of technical master pieces as they changed positions"well its all about the gameplay"

got tired throw in multiplats some where and some sales figures and there ya go

DaTruth5023d ago

MS stuffs the channel at the end of every year so they can say they sold more. That is why the 360 tends to stay at the same number for the first six months of every year.

kneon5023d ago

@SpLinT

Reach and Gears 3 are unlikely to attract many new customers. If you're not a fan by now then you likely won't ever be, and if you are a fan then you probably already have an Xbox.

Kinect will get some new customers, the only question is how many.

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gamerzBEreal175023d ago

how is this holiday going to "s**k for them"
seriously guys take off are fanboy goggles here
kinect
new 360
price drop
halo reach (not saying its good but it will sell millions)
none of this happend in the first half

nickjkl5023d ago (Edited 5023d ago )

@gamerzbreal
kinect-did not prove it self

new 360 + price drop-already slowing down

halo reach - are you implying that people skipped halo 3 the last main installment of the halo series

okay

move-proved its self

gran turismo 5-unlike halo has not had an installment this gen

prologue doesnt count it always gets outsold by the main game

all you gotta do is hope sony doesnt drop the price when gran turismo 5 s launched

muzikjunkie805023d ago

its laughable at the human intelligence on this site. why do ppl really care how many consoles microsoft nintendo or sony have sold and or who is beating who in sales??? seriously! do ppl think that either of the companies gives a crap about us just like u all care about them? no! they only care about themselves. everybody needs to take a good look at urselves on this site just to see how pathetic u all are bitching about nothing ie. my console is better than urs, my games are better than urs, console a sold more than console b, who gives a fuck just play the games made for them coz in the end no matter who wins this so called cosole war we aint getting shit out of it anyway. i play games for fun and own a ps3 and xbox 360 coz i like the games each system has to offer. i dont care who makes what system or how many they sold or whatever, as long as they keep making great games for them thats all that matters too me. im out

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Snakefist305024d ago (Edited 5024d ago )

This is wat happens when M$ fanboys brag abut sales.When ps3 defeat 360 in sales then the fanboys will brag abut graphics like multiphat games looks better on xbox 360.

Lou-Cipher5024d ago

They dont even have the better Multiplat argument anymore. When PS3 gets cross game chat & passes the 360 in sales (sometime after GT5 comes out) they wont have anything, there will be a mass suicide of 360 fanboys across America & the United Kingdom.

shoddy5024d ago

I don't even understand why is it better. I see the only major different is xchat.

SoapShoes5023d ago

Simply surpassing them in sells/everything won't change their minds. Remember how there were Xbox fanboys even though PS2 was ahead by 100+ million with a much larger selection of games? Not to say the Xbox wasn't good, I liked it, but you can't stop fanboys from claiming theirs is better.

jerethdagryphon5023d ago

sony keeps stocks under control when they sell to distributors so distributors have no huge piles of consoles on hand

so they sell 5-10 to each shop and those sell they rebuy from distributors who buy more from sony.

ms sells bucket loads to the distributors and count those as there total sales

ignoring the fact that the retialers dont buy so many

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FACTUAL evidence5024d ago

That gap sure is closing....wasn't it like a 5m gap?......I remember when a certain group kept babling about the ps3 never able to catch up. Well...jokes on them I guess.

Sitris5024d ago

thats 2 million units that VGcharts was under tracking the ps3, thats alot of units!

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Karooo5024d ago

commodore, poor 360 fanboy lol.

IRetrouk5024d ago

sony posted SOLD numbers, micro post SHIPPED numbers, so there probs isnt even a gap now, maybe a mill and a half but i dont think its even that much anymore.

Why o why5024d ago

has been a joke for years. they are guestimates at best. nothing really wrong with that but people should recognise this

Optical_Matrix5024d ago

Nice spin Commodore, very nice spin. 3 million, 3.6, does it really matter? The fact is that that gap is now small. And although I don't like to play the sales game, I congratulate Sony as I do MS for selling/shipping 41.7 million 360's. But I also laugh at the fanboys who claimed the PS3 would never come this close. As with everything PS3 related, haters/fanboys are too quick to judge...and later on they have egg on their face. Notice the lack of fanboys in this article. Good on you commodore for being their spokesman though.

Lou-Cipher5024d ago (Edited 5024d ago )

Let me remind you that a game called Gran Turismo 5 is coming out in Nov of this year.

You know, that game that will sell more consoles than Halo,Gears,Forza,360 slim and Kinect will combined.

If your hoping that next quarter wont be as bad, your going to be upset. The next time Sony & Microsoft post their numbers it is going to be closer for Sony, if not surpassing the 360's numbers.

Not to mention the countless Hardcore 360 owners that are going to be running to their nearest game store hoping to trade in their 360 for a PS3. (Since Microsoft is in the process of abandoning the Core gamer)

Oh yeah, and like IRetrouk said: Sony is SOLD #s, Microsoft is shipped #s.

PLAYstar5024d ago

@commodore64
The problem isn't with the 600000units you should be worried about. Just not long ago the gap was at 6million, and in just a few months its only left with a 3million gap to close. What you should worry about ain't the minor inaccurate figure but the momentum PS3 is gaining.

Since your predictions never gets right! I am so confident now to say that the Juggernaut cannot be stop, especially by piksquick 360.

Increase in 360 sales? What? OH.... U mean the 900%/0.02million increased.. LOL!!!

MOVE and kinect decisive? Please do not speak of kinect next to MOVE, it's embarrassing! MOVE is building an empire on top of the moon, while kinect is breathing with a hole-less straw under a dump of excrement.

Oh and once your garbage go last, its there permanently! Can't wait to ring your bell having your console of choice being in last place AHAHAHA!!! Coming soon to stamp your face with a CHECKED! ;)

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badz1495024d ago

only close gaps? doesn't it ever do 'surpassing' and 'smoking competitions'??

Zeevious5023d ago

It's simple...and from Microsoft's own numbers.

(This competition is what gets us the $299 consoles and better games...So what's to complain about?)

1.4 billion at full retail of $200 per console is 7 MILLION 360's.

Subtract that from the total working unit...NOW add up the sales of both consoles.

What an interesting number you have there, for anyone so interested in numbers they insist on defining a 3rd place without real figures.

Next time, try adding with actual math.

Bobets5024d ago

Johnny_bravo's avatar describes the XBOX FANBOYS reaction!!!!

scofios5024d ago

Quick M$ another 100$ pricedrop or ban another million consoles .

beardpapa5024d ago

your wish will come true his fall.

Cyrax_875024d ago

Looks like all 3 companies will have a killer holiday sale.

lelo2play5024d ago (Edited 5024d ago )

Oh boy... X360 and PS3 fanboys are happy fighting for 2nd place. What is this world coming to.

After a clear domination of PS1 and PS2 in the last 2 generations... if someone told me at the beginning of this generation that the PS3 would be hard fighting for 2nd/3rd place, by half way of this generation, i would have not believed it.

Rip-Ridah5024d ago (Edited 5024d ago )

If someone would have told you at the beginning of this generation that the PS3 would be $600, you probably wouldn't have believed it either. My point is, the price had a significant impact on the initial sales of the PS3. Not lack of games, consumer disinterest, or rival competitor penetration. It was the price. In my opinion, where the PS3 is dominating is in software diversity, quality, and uniqueness. This is where it really matters and will benefit Sony for years to come.

badz1495024d ago

why talk about 1st place when you can't see it yet? can't people be happy with an improvement even just a little? you can play the "WII is no.1" card if you like but clearly this section is about PS3 vs 360!

XabiTheHumble5023d ago

The ps3 is at the same position the ps1 and ps2 were in there lifetime. Ps3 is doing as expected.

fermcr5024d ago

"PS3 Sells 38.1 Million Units Worldwide, Trails Xbox 360 by 3 Million Units"

Someone teach the author some math... how much is ...

41.7 million - 38.1 Million

shoddy5024d ago

MS also make a bunch of sales from RROD and ban console.

8thnightvolley5024d ago

sony is coming fassstttt... does this mean 360 is going to be the new 3rd... well at the end of this year we will knw for certain..

Zeevious5023d ago

That this competition is great for everyone...and the industry.

That 1.4 billion in warranty costs = 7 million full-retail $200 units.

Subtract that from the numbers reported and the PS3 is already in the middle.

Real figures, actual sales, and total number of functional units do matter, no matter how obscurely Microsoft reports that information.

That said...where exactly are the losers? From the look of my game cabinet, there's great games and affordable consoles everywhere for everyone!

tinybigman5024d ago

even with these numbers coming directly from Sony VGchartz will not update the figures with the correct numbers. they are quick to do it for M$ but not for Sony.

anyway great news for Sony, and the industry on a whole. smart, objective gamers know that neither of these 3 companies are going nowhere for quite some time.

Omega45024d ago

Well thats as close as Sony will ever get to the 360 this gen.

Rip-Ridah5024d ago

I don't think you really mean that. I'd like to ask you a question. Do you think that the 360 will be on the market and supported by Microsoft longer than Sony and their PS3? I don't think the 360 will.

ChronoJoe5023d ago

You're so silly Omega.

All the time, stupid posts. Why post at all. I don't know. Even the 360 fanboys have a hard time giving you agrees when it's just flatout lies.

cliffbo5023d ago

oh man! you are going to be so disappointed with everything in life if you continue thinking so narrow mindedly

inception1235023d ago

lol that was what you clowns said when it was behind 10 mil then 8mil, 5mil and now 3 mil 360 fanboys are a complete joke.

fuckoffodion5023d ago

Your brain must be the size of a peanut Omega.

SonyPS3605023d ago

@Chronojoe

Shame that Ps3 fanboys have no trouble giving out agrees/disagrees when it's not warranted.

fuckoffodion5023d ago

It's a shame that 360 fanboys can't see why it's clearly warranted to give fantards like Omega the disagrees.

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J-Smith5024d ago

the xbox360 fans[to put it nicely]had the whole of the internet on their side to try & stop sonys ps3 & they failed LoL

SonyPS3605023d ago

Engage Ps3 sony nut hugging.

ImmortalLegend5023d ago

Too bad my ps3 is only a bluray player. It is the best value bluray player on the market. To everyone saying 360 sales are high because of rrod, etc. I wonder how many ps3s are bought just to watch bluray movies lol.

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APOFISBORICUA5024d ago (Edited 5024d ago )

MS is promoting Kinect like the second coming...if Kinect fails hard it really would be over to the 360, not because KINECT fails but because they are spending their money on it and not on us their hardcore audience with more first party games, not just HALO or Gears. Good job to SONY and their first parties without them the PS3 would never been as suscessfull as it is today... NOW BRING US RESISTANCE 3 DAMMIT!!!!!!

PEACE AND GAMING!!!!!

Mmmkay5024d ago

kinect will fail like the first xbox, and the ps3 will go on like the ps2 did...
we've seen it before...

as if microsoft software wasn't crappy enough, i would NEVER get microsoft hardware!"!

Bumpmapping5024d ago (Edited 5024d ago )

Xbox3rd place

Otheros005020d ago

Will kinect help it read third place? YES!!

nygamer285024d ago (Edited 5024d ago )

oh time to put on my busines suit and plays sales......but seriously,i really dont give your a shit(back to playing RDR)

rdgneoz35024d ago

"i really dont give your a shit" Is that English?

FURY__UNLEASHED5024d ago (Edited 5024d ago )

Hilarious how a 360 fanboy (nygamer28) says someone else is "playing sales".

Irony...

skip2mylou5024d ago

no sir it is not, which is why he failed grammar class :P

Spenok5024d ago

Thats what i was thinking lol. I guess we will never know.

nikoado5023d ago

That argument might of been valid if you weren't in an article specificly about sales.

electricshadow5024d ago

Oh man, it's gonna get HOT in here! Good to see the PS3 is doing so much better. Just wait 'til GT5 comes out!

klapkip5024d ago

Yeah, that will give a boost. And what to think about the new Slims in Japan (white edition) + 160 and 320gb versions that will arrive soon + games like SOCOM4, Little Big Planet 2, Killzone 3, Infamous 2, Last Guardian. The train will start the beginning of november.

emk20045024d ago

i realy hope people dont pass on last guardian its one of them aaa games that almost destined for avarage sales. im glad most of that stuff is 2011 now that sc2 came out i dont think i will be off that game for months and im out of money lol.

rdgneoz35024d ago

@electricshadow Hell, Nov will kill for the PS3. GT5, LBP2, and DC Universe. The preorders for the first 2 alone are sick, just imagine if they did console bundles with them.

moparful995024d ago

Ok I was expecting great numbers from sony but this? This gave me tinglies.. I felt a huge weight lifted because honestly sales was the only remaining weapon that certain "people" use against the ps3. 3 mil gap? That gap can easily be closed within this year alone.. ON a side note, wonder how long it will take vgchartz to update and reflect this? LOL.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers4d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken4d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g4d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing4d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H94d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola4d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6694d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle4d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg5d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos5d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola5d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies25d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken25d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga25d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken25d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6425d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long25d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197225d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic25d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12525d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91325d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer25d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91324d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit24d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher25d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6924d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit24d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher25d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken25d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197225d ago (Edited 25d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic25d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2325d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218325d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder25d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts25d ago

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