Could A Console Version Of StarCraft II Work?

With a relatively successful, albeit questionably marketed version of the original StarCraft released for the Nintendo 64 in 2000, how would StarCraft II fare on today's consoles?

[qface64]

i forgot about that n64 starcraft lol

well honestly though i don't see a point in a starcraft for consoles i mean everyone who even wants SC2 will already get it for PC

[nikkisixx2]

Lol that starcraft for the n64 sucked so bad and was awesome at the same time... weird.

But I believe with he Move capabilities you would be able to put SC2 on the console

btw: inb4conloles

[Cheeseknight28]

It may have sucked but hey, it did have an exclusive level.

[Rot_in_Fail]

I'm not interested in SCII but I would try it just out of curiosity with Move.

[evrfighter]

"I'm not interested in SCII but I would try it just out of curiosity with Move."

lol come on now.

it's ok to catch starcraft fever. pc gamers won't judge you.

[AndrewRyan]

No offence to sony but I don't think they could afford to pay Blizzard to develop Starcraft 2 for the move. Not saying that they CAN NOT afford it, they would just lose heaps of money.

[ThanatosDMC]

Nah, I dont think Move will work properly like a mouse and keyboard UNLESS the speed of the game is kept at normal. Seriously, i still cant beat an AI opponent on Hard mode at "Faster" speed setting or keep up with it... but then again i dont have super Korean gaming skillz.

Those guys are faster than the AI which is freaky. Even Medium difficulty AI on Faster speed is hard.

[morganfell]

Are you kidding? Did no one see the Dualshockers video showing a strategy game using Move? Not even a KB/M combo can keep up with that kind of interface. The ability to select units and give not only waypoints but exact routes is faster than anything to date.

Go to the 1:50 mark here:

http://n4g.com/news/568428/...

[ThanatosDMC]

Well, that was actually very slow. But the AI in Starcraft 2 is based of on Korean gamers. Now that's fast and the link on the bottom is slow. Check out how many times he clicks before switching screens. These guys are the beasts in Starcraft.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[morganfell]

And that isn't an issue considering what you are looking at is a tech demo. Yes I have been playing SCII and played tons of SC1 and BW. Some of us were not teenagers when the originals premiered. Hotkeying is the secret to SCII but Move selection in a final form might easily keep up with that. Certainly as I said custom routes is huge. Now add features like rapidly designated patrol boundaries...

[ThanatosDMC]

We'll see, i dont actually like RUSE because it's a simplified RTS game and it probably would work as intended with Move. I'm hoping that a game like Company of Heroes would be ported but i highly doubt it since they're re-releasing the game for free for everyone to play sometime this September or November on PC. It's called Company of Heroes Online.

I hope RTS Move implementation could work as well as a mouse and keyboard but i have doubts. We'll see what happens then.

For Move, the only types of games I'm looking forward to are the fighting games that uses two Move controllers. It'll be a good workout and hopefully it'll be a new challenge.

(sorry out of bubbles so cant reply anymore)

[- Ghost of Sparta -]

It would only work on PS3 due to superior processing power and being the only console that supports KB+M.

[baodeus]

you an idiot. Star Craft was never about graphics (you can even play it without a graphic card). SC2 graphic is very minimal (they finally added some physical elements to it). Do you really need PS3 processing just to play star craft 2? I can see other console support KB+M as well. The only problem is if they want to implement it or not. But right now, PC is the way to go.

Got to go play some SC2. Yay, been a long time.

[Shnazzyone]

Shame it couldn't run it... actually the best hope is 360 since it runs an pc like core. I imagine porting it to sony's proprietary hardware would be the most costly option... incorporating move would assure it's failure. Keyboard and mouse would be the only logical option... That and not every ps3 owner wants to balance a keyboard and mouse while on the couch. Really... why don't you play it on pc then?

[Poseidon]

ps3 and the move say hell yea

[rdgneoz3]

R.U.S.E. is using Move, and they had a demo the other week by one of the Move developers showing a RTS demo for Move that looked interesting. But I don't see SC II coming to consoles any time soon.

[Qui-Gon Jim]

Anton Mikhailov has said that he rigged up a PC with a PS3 and used Move to control Starcraft. I think he said it works really well.

[Persistantthug]

PS3 even has direct Keyboard and mouse option ready to go.

There's no reason not to.

I'd try it.

[SupaGamer]

Why not?

[jaredhart]

Definitely, many console gamers don't game on the PC so there is a large untapped audience.

[krouse93]

I game on PC and PS3 primarily pretty evenly split between the two. But a PS3 PlayStation Move version of the game would be badass!

[Downtown boogey]

Like me. I have a decent rig, but I've figured out the funniest thing... Gaming costs more on the PC. The used games market is much lower than on the consoles which is why it's so cheap for me to play on consoles. I once even EARNED money when selling a used game even though I had bought it as new.

[STONEY4]

Someone's never heard of Steam....

[OrganicMachine]

the Game's interface alone needs to be re-designed to get it to play right.

[Colonel-Killzone]

With Playstation Move Most def. Least in my opinion also needs the keyboard and mouse function.

[Mista T]

they should allow you to use a usb connected keyboard and a move controller at the same time.

[Colonel-Killzone]

Yea I can see that working.

[N4BmpS]

Well if you have a SONY Vaio laptop you can use that wirelessly, remember that update before 3.41 or maybe before that enables you to use a Vaio as a controller.

[mrmcygan]

Was that Saddam Hussein in the video?

[ThanatosDMC]

Yeah, that's what i thought too... HAHAHA!

[tiamat5]

No. According to the obsessed, crazy StarCraft 2 fans our 'inferior consoles' would catch on fire trying to process the game. Seriously, I think they are all mentality unstable or something the way they acted when someone suggested putting the game on the PS3.

[MajestieBeast]

Keyboard and mouse support can work and also move from what they showed in that rts demo we should wait and see how ruse uses move.

[zu4G]

PS3 is the answer

[dragonelite]

No, There's no way in hell we can put 100+ instructions per minute on console while you need high 200 and low 300 apm to be competitive i rather play on pc.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Move.

Don't troll. You know the PS3 and Move are more than capable of this. They'd probably beat the mouse and keyboard players.

[lavitz]

LMAO @ Move beating mouse and keyboard controls. Your sarcasm is hilarious.

[evrfighter]

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@believing move could do it. It's not precise enough. every move demo I've seen has shown horrible lag. The most move could do would be 50-75apm MAX

[dragonelite]

Lol move is a fast as kinect is so both will provide a slow rts which defeats the purpose of starcraft 2 and warcraft they are popular because they are competitive. Why do you think halo is so popular bungie creates games that are competitive you can have the best graphics like killzone 2 but with no competition the multiplayer gets boring.

Competition is what makes starcraft so popular not fancy graphics or great singleplayer mode. That why it's integrated into battlenet so much.

[hoops]

Why not.

[RonXD]

Leave Starcraft for the PC. Consoles can't deliver the same experience you get from SC.

People complain about watered down Final Fantasy 13 and how it should have stayed exclusive to the PS3 instead of going Multi Plat. Taking a PC game and watering it down for the PS3 would be the same thing.

[kraze07]

Exactly. It's possible on the PS3, but that doesn't mean it should happen. And people please stop it with these ideas about using Move for RTS games. Just because it works alright for a game like RUSE doesn't mean it will be perfect for any other RTS game out there. I can't imagine how using it for an RTS on the scale of Supreme Commander (1 not 2) would be like.

[RonXD]

Look at the PS3 fanboys disagreeing XD

But Move would never work as good as KBM for Starcraft 2. Sure it may be better than using a controller but no one in there right mind would go with Move support over Keyboard and Mouse.

The only way move would work in a RTS game if it's specifically built for Move. Not a port of a PC game built for keyboard and mouse.

[MysticStrummer]

Sorry but you're both wrong. Move has already been shown controlling Starcraft on a PC, and it did a hell of a job.

[whothedog]

You have a link Mystic?

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Uh...

Move CAN outdo a keyboard and mouse. It's more precise.

[pippoppow]

Could have a kb|mouse or move option for ps3. Sure pc version would be the version to get but a ps3 version would be pretty close. I'm glad its pc exclusive so there is no parity issues. A ps3 version is feasable by maintainig the same controls with graphics and onscreen mayhem close to pc version.

[whothedog]

YAH!

[Thecraft1989]

possible on ps3 as Sony allow developers implement keyboard mouse support Dont think it would make sence as don't see RTS attracting many sales for consoles as allready sold 5 million only reason to do this is for more sales so not much point.

MRHARDON what you're talking about it has 512 meg split and is alot faster. and RTS are lot more about processing power than ram and 360 Xeon processor was redesigned server processor not even ment for games plus Microsoft would never allow keyboard mouse for some strange reason.

[saint_john_paul_ii]

so far, if there was going to be a console port, if ever, the PS3 would be the clear candidate for such a port, because of its open PSN platform and move...

[MRHARDON]

Would you use MOVE with an RTS? Are you an idiot? Who in there right mind would want to stick out there hand for 50 hours giving directions with a remote?

Same with Kincet who would want to point where they want to command there team to go?

100% of all users if it was ever ported to the PS3 or Xbox 360 will use a keyboard (they would have to patch in support for Keyboard and Mouse to use in StarCraft 2).

No none will use ever use the add on accessories to play Star Craft 2 even mentioning it is a stupid idea.

[skip2mylou]

you dont have to stick out your hand 50 straight hours you can just have your hand sitting on your lap and move your hand

[MysticStrummer]

Move has already been shown controlling Starcraft on a PC. That happened months before E3. It works great. Watch the Move video that shows the chameleon climbing tech demo. Part of that same video will show you why Move and RTS go together well. Also, stop calling people idiots when you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

[lavitz]

You still haven't posed up a link. And just because it might work for SC2 doesn't mean it'll work for every other RTS game out there.

[saint_john_paul_ii]

why not? if they're (UBISOFT) crazy enough to run it with an RTS like RUSE, why wouldnt starcraft?

You're giving move less credit than it deserves. it is a very versitle controller. i can sit down and rest it on my lap without doing waggle motions.

[Obama]

Have been playing the game half a day already. Great stuff.

[MRHARDON]

Both consoles will do good for a port, not just the PS3, Xbox 360 will do good too.

I dont know why people are sayin the PS3 will be better cause the PS3 only has
256 memory ram
while the Xbox 360 has 512 mb ram.

[OpenGL]

Actually, both systems have 512MB of RAM. The PS3 has 256MB of DDR3 for the GPU and 256MB of XDR for the CPU, where on the 360 it's 512MB of DDR3 is shared between the GPU and CPU.

Also, this game could probably be ported to the consoles, but without a mouse and keyboard it would be unplayable.

[DJMarty]

God your you know jack shit about consoles specs.

Both consoles(PS3 & 360) have 512Mb ram.

PS3 supports keyboard & mice, 360 doesn't.

[HDgamer]

Besides move, it would work. Keyboard and mouse can be used.

[yamzilla]

no!!

The recommended specs are 2 gb ram....hmmm sorry ps3 and 360...512 ram is kinda 2001

also recommeds an 8800 series card....that's a whole generation of gpu beyond whats in the ps3 and 360....not to mention...those recommended specs wont get you 60 frames at 1920x1080p with all settings on ultra...

to achieve that you want...

4 gb ddr3
beefy ass single core or dual or quad proc.
and an 8800 series card at least....with 512 vram at least

sorry but...
Every other console rts i've tried this gen has been CRAP!!!

The game would have to be dropped to some terrible resolution like 900x500 and have units with barely any detail like the battle for middle earth was...

But Damn it's fun on PC.....

Runs at a blistring 120 fps in true 1920x1080p all settings on ultra

-yummy stuff

why dumb it down graphiclly and gameplay wise....this game has already sold over 3 million copies at least....

people still buy starcraft 1.....talk about a game with legs!!

name a console game from 1998 that still sells so well you can find it in every major retailer and millions play it online every day?????

[DJMarty]

PC games only have high recommended ram specs, cos windows has high ram overheads for OS. Consoles don't have anywhere near the ram overheads for OS.

[Qui-Gon Jim]

A console version would be different. I don't know the technical stuff, maybe it would have to be "dumbed down" to run on consoles, but that wouldn't affect the PC version in any way. If people who don't have gaming PCs want to play a potentially inferior version on their consoles, it won't affect your PC experience, so don't worry about them.

[Jrome]

I would buy it day 1...just saying.

[hazelamy]

well a ps3 version could work, either support mouse and keyboard, as the ps3 allows devs to do, or support move, or better yet both.
maybe they could condense the controls down to work with a pd, maybe not, if they can either console could host a great version.
but they wont make a console version.

[tiamat5]

You see? This is the kind of crazy talk I spoke about before. Starcraft people going on and on about the consoles being inferior with a ton of technical babble to go with it. They act like if Starcraft 2 goes on a console it will taint it or something and infect the PC version. Seriously guys, calm down. No one said anything about putting it on a console, It is a rhetorical question.If the company did decide to do it, it would be up to them to decide, not you.

[TwistedMetal]

I never played a pc game on my big hdtv but it would be cool to do.

[Dekonega]

Why not to connect your computer to TV? It's easy. You're just going to need one cable if your HDTV has VGA(D-SUB) connector. Then get bluetooth keyboard and mouse and you're all set. However I must admit that I am just using usb extend cables because of the reaction times. There's just one thing and it's that it's not very comfortable to play games with keyboard and mouse on a couch if you aren't able to sit/lean there properly. :)

[kasasensei]

Starcraft 2 with move support on ps3 could be a good thing. But not with a game pad...only with MOVE. We're talking about starcraft2 here, not a C&C pimp my tank or a halo wars for newbies that you can play and win with one hand.

[Dekonega]

I think that it is obvious that it is possible to make Starcraft 2 like game for integrated gaming machines like Xbox 360 and Playstation 3. But it wouldn't work as well as on WIndows and Mac OS X. Main problem would be the control scheme and graphics. Not to mention network connectivity and ability to patch it when needed quickly.

Playstation 3 and Wii are more likely to have good control scheme since both have 3D-mouse alike devices which can be used to control stuff. Xbox 360's Natal doesn't work here so it is pretty obvious that it would have to rely on pad controller which wouldn't be as cozy as mouse and keyboard or 3D-mouse and remote control.

Next thing is graphics. Windows and Mac OS X usually run on a pile of hardware which greatly exceeds anything and everything what integrated gaming machines offer. For example Crysis 2 on Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 is about the same as Crysis 1 on Windows with Med-Hi settings. How could we expect the very best performance and visual look and interesting visual style if there's year 2005 tech limiting it's capabilities. And don't give me that crap that they could just make different versions. While it's true that they could it usually just means that they won't because of the business reasons. Remember Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2? Besides Wii doesn't really cut the graphics part at all here.

And to make it worse. All of these devices have their own network services which on Xbox 360 is only way to connect to network and you even have to pay for it. On Playstation 3 is has some freedoms like in the case of Metal Gear Solid 4 which has its own network service separate from PSN altogether. However it is total rubbish. It doesn't work as intended and because it's separate thing it doesn't interest people and there aren't players in there enough. Next thing is patching the game. If it where in PSN or Xbox Live synced updates for the game would be nearly impossible because of the verification process by Microsoft and Sony. That is, unless players are able to wait long periods of time and stand the gliches and problems in the game. Again Call of Duty 6: Modern Warfare 2 is good example how things might go.

So this all comes to the thing that some games are exclusive for particular platform not because it wasn't possible to make a port, a good port at that which would make a lot of people happy but because makers feel that it's the only right way to do it. And there's not a damn thing people whom are over excited about Playstation or Xbox can do about it.

[Corrwin]

Hell, even the original Command & Conquer is quite playable and enjoyable on PSOne.

RTSs tend to be the last hope of PC Gaming (which is nonsense because PC gaming doesn't need saving, but it should share with consoles and help them evolve), because you apparently can't play with a controller.

Though by that reasoning, you can't control a car with a gamepad, or a gun with a mouse. There's abstracting the controls to fit the controller, and then there's just folk who don't want any fun :(

[MASTER_RAIDEN]

i honestly think a game like starcraft is on the pc not only because its crafted to work best on it but also because at this point theres a lack of audience for games like RTSs on consoles.
of course a console RTS wouldnt work half as well as one on PC...but i feel like the console devs dont even bother to try making one that works half way decent. face facts: an RTS is just something a console gamer has been forced to stay away from because they know thats "pc gamers territory" so to speak.

basically what im trying to say is that theres been a lack of audience for the console RTS because youd be hard pressed to find a few decent console RTSs thusfar. and its like...why should a dev try so hard to make a decent RTS when they could just cash in on a COD clone concept instead?

[Letros]

Does everything have to be dumbed downed today?

[bjornbear]

...I guess yes =/

[DJMarty]

MOVE would be perfect fit for a Starcraft 2 game.

[Rifkens]

No one has even mentioned what consoles games thrive on. Autoaim

[Corrwin]

You'll be surprised by the amount of PC games that use it and don't tell you.

Also, outside of a competitive online game, does autoaim matter? Only to the few, I'd imagine.

[ChronoJoe]

Personally. I don't mind how slowly you can micromanage on a controller. In multiplayer, it doesn't matter - because everyone is playing the same way - it's still fun.

I wouldn't like to use a move controller, or kinect, for a long period of time though. Whilst presumably less efficient, I'd rather use them in order of... how much effort it takes.

Controller > Keyboard and Mouse > Move controller. The PS3 version of starcraft could easily offer all 3 input device options though. Little Big Planet 2 will be offering Keyboard and Mouse, Move, and of course controller support.

[BlackIceJoe]

I think it could & I would buy Starcraft II if it came out on the consoles. I could see SCII working really well with the Move & seeing as the PS3 allows for keyboard & Mouse I could see that working for SCII too. So I hope Blizzard will bring the game to the consoles. Because if they do I know I will buy it.

[Spenok]

I guess its possible. You never know.