Why Street Fighter X Tekken will own Tekken X Street Fighter

NowGamer: The recent double announcement at Comic Con concerning two of the biggest fighting franchises has really got chins wagging here at NowGamer. Not specifically on just how many beat ‘em up crossovers can occur before videogaming implodes, but just how much Street Fighter X Tekken will walk all over Tekken X Street Fighter. And do an Ultra on it...

[GodHandDee]

The usual 2d fighter fanboy (not 'fan' mind you) bashing 3d fighter pov article imo... The lack of imagination of the author baffles me

[MiloGarret]

I'm actually more interested in Tekken X Street Fighter, which is strange considering I'm a bit of a SF-fanboy. I'm really looking forward to seeing how they resolve all the issues abound.

As long as I can HH-slap the beejesus out of people with E.Honda, I'm happy.

[gaffyh]

I'm looking forward to Tekken x SF a lot more, there have been already been 2 SFs in the space of like a year. Plus Tekken is just that much more fluid.

[rockleex]

I want to see how they're going to increase the Street Fighter characters' move lists to 100 moves per character like in Tekken.

[jetlian]

rock they won't!!! they will get it up to 50-60 like kazuya.

[gtamike]

It looks really bad and alot slower gameplay than Tekken 6

[Incognegro]

That article didn't bring much insight. I could see it working in the Tekken world, but I am more apprehensive about it than I am Street Fighter x Tekken since more things need to be taken into consideration. I do see a lot of specials like Ken and Chun Li's combo specials being morphed into a somewhat 10 hit combo.

Specials like Ryu's hadoken blast can be turned into an unblockable wave. Unblockable's are rarely used but they can still change the tide of a match if timed right. Besides, there have been a handful of characters that have implored waves, and it has worked. Instead of getting up in arms about the announcement, how about just wait and see for a change...but it doesn't look like we can do that huh..?

[Baka-akaB]

we had earlier examples showing that kind of unimaginative and restricted thinking for SFxT , about tekken characters being supposedly unable to handle fireballs unlike characters without projectiles from sf itself in the same situation .

I stay stop assuming and just wait and see , if you really can't figure out yourself a way that it could easily work out .

Bottom line both companies know what they are doing

[young juice]

whoa wait!!! i just started workin so i havent been up on my gaming news. WHAT IS THIS???

i didnt even know they announced this

[TrevorPhillips]

Are you serious bro, here is the trailer. This game is dope!

http://www.ps3news.com/Play... :D

[young juice]

i had no idea whatsoeva :P thanks for the trailer

[TrevorPhillips]

Why I don't care what the title says and that I'm getting both street fighter vs tekken and tekken vs street fighter I mean it's the two fighting games that I love ohh and dont forget MK9 =]

[XxBarretxX]

I play both of these fighters and in my honest opinion I like Tekken better. Probably because I started on PS2 and Tekken was the best fighting game last gen and SF might as well of not existed (except for SFAN Near the end).

Although I think the 2D versions will be better just because you can't compare the "realistic" fighting of Tekken to the "superpower"fighting of SF

[TheFaggot_]

Can someone PLEASE PLEASE tell me why Street Fighter 4 is considered a 2D game??

[Fishy Fingers]

Perhaps because it is? It may appear 3D, but you fight on a horizontal 2D plane.

[PeterGriffinSays]

The graphics itself are 3D, but thats not what they're referin to.

[alphakennybody]

lack of sidestep, even the new MK is consider to be 2d for the same reason

[TheFaggot_]

Oh I got it now thanks to all of you :)

[i_am_interested]

two games that could easily fit on one blu-ray but wont

[GiggMan]

Ahhh good point... Now I'm pissed.

[NoBias]

We're gonna be mad about disc swapping on two different fighters? You can't be mad about a price issue because there's no way they're going to develop two separate games and give them to us on one blu-ray for the cost of one.

That just ain't happenin lol. So the only thing you have to be pissed about is that fact that you have to swap discs... Which is ridiculous haha

[Feckles]

And don't forget all that 'downloadable' content that won't fit onto the Blu-ray.

[stonecold1]

work on 360 hardware it should be a ps3 exclusive game

[Game-ur]

Did this guy play them both? I didn’t know they were out already!

[TrevorPhillips]

I still remember the funny part in the gameplay they showed. Press start, press start, for the love of gadd! hahaha :D

[ATLGAMER]

but street fighter never could make that transformation its easy to go from 3d to 2d but the other way around ...seems eaiser...only one that went 3d and was kinda successful was Mortal kombat so time will tell...for me its 3d

[blackbeld]

^ disagree

'street fighter never could make that transformation'

You forgot Streetfighter EX it was the first with tag team too and in 3D. Amazing game! One off the best of SF series.

[jetlian]

ex wasn't really 3d but to fans of SF they hate the ex series. I personally liked them

[alphakennybody]

I'll be waiting for Tekken X SF, I'm more familiar with tekken's controls than SF.

[Masta_Killa]

One of the worst articles I've ever read and I'm a fan of both series.

[Graphics]

Of course people gonna choose the 2d version because its going to be the cheeziest. I hate when i play SF and people just move back and block and do the cheapest attacks and just play turtle style. While in 3d you are actually forced to learn to play the game and can't really win with cheapness. And to win in 3d with cheapness at least you have to be skilled in doing combos unlike SF.. look at those tournament SF videos its just people moving back and spamming same moves and blocking. 2d is ez just like MW2 is ez, anything ez is always popular cause anyone can play it, nobody can't stop playing MW2 cause its ez to pick up and play and also cheap cause of the perks and killstreaks. but hey i still play all of them cause they are fun. but usually the better harder games are never popular.

[WLPowell]

I expect the Tekken X SF matches to be way more impressve than the SF X Tekken matches at EVO.

[Baka-akaB]

I Say it without trying to offend , but i believe you're a tad delusional . Sf4 doesnt punish turtling right , but this has nothing to do with it being 2d or 3d . Plenty 2d fighters punish you outright for it , and are far more agressive and offense oriented than anything 3d . It's just the style they choose

Cheapness and unbalance exists in spades in 3d games and pretty much as much .

That last comment of yours about popularity and mw2 is even sillier imo .
For the last decade and till now , 3d fihgting have been and are dominating in sales and mainstream popularity .
It is them that attract casual customers , not so much a guilty gear , blazblue , kof or sf3 ... like say a soul calibur and DOA .
With the exception of truly hardcore stuff like Virtua fighter .

Even the often disliked now tekken 6 on consoles did a very solid million right at release . When did a 2d fighter did even that recently ? pretty much only sf4 , against tekken , soul calibur and the other 3d games

More skills for combos ? Depends of wich comobo and wich games . Take tekken , there is not so much difficulty involved in doing the default 10 hits combos . Now i think we'll agree that spamming them is usually a sign of being a beginner or not experienced enough to know better .

And the advanced ones arent particularly harder links and strings than what you encounter in 2d franchise . Hell they dont involve the often gratuiteous extra pad motions involved in combos for 2d fighters .
Hell tekken isnt about the difficulty of executing a motion , but reading a rival strategy .

Dont misunderstand i like both style equally , i just can't agree with your baseless generalisation .

[jetlian]

sf4 did 4 million tekken 6 is lucky if it got 2 so your mistaken. 10 hit combos in tekken can't be compared to street fighters. tekkens true combos are juggles the defaults you mentioned are like target combos in SF.

Most people can get in SF easier than tekken and thats a fact. street fighter has 2 throw levels to Tekkens 4 levels. way more moves, harder timing on said moves, more throw escapes not just 1 actually tekken has 3 in most cases.

I dunno how you can say tekken doesn't have motion moves.they have DP moves with odd layouts(triangle+x or y+a) just look at bruce multy knee. kings multy throws.

it has a ground game like no other except soul calibur which is made by the same company

[Misterhbk]

Tekken X Street Fight > Street Fight X Tekken

I hate the visuals of Street Fighter 4. The muscles and overly cartoony feel of it. Just wasn't feeling it.

EDIT;; on a side note, how is steve fox gonna work in SF's 2D world? he's my fave Tekken fighter and he's all about the side stepping and dodging attacks. Seems like he wouldn't work in that world

[Baka-akaB]

he would dash like a dudley on acid . that's my guess . And some sf characters are also keen on evading attacks . Partially Vega with his 3 punchs and 3kicks evades and rolls .

[ShoryuSwordsman]

why you need to shut the f*** up.

Tekken and SF follow different rules. period. don't expect tekken to compromise a character that was originally built for controlling space to work the same in a game that's built on in your face, high/low/mid pressure. just as sf is going to need to give the tekken characters movements to get around fireballs, tekken is going to have to give the street fighter characters entire movesets in order to work in their universe. street fighter characters have a total of 28 different nonspecial moves, give or take, while tekken characters have on average at least forty to fifty, not counting special stance movements and basic moves. that said, each tekken character also has a variety of combination moves, which when compared to sf, could be comparable to a target combo, which is a special normal attack where u do more than one hit by pressing certain buttons in a specific order. And those moves are far from plentiful. You can't expect the street fighter characters to just get thrown into tekken without different moves and hope to stand a chance. As for the projectile thing, no one knows for sure what tekken will do. They could make the characters crouch to duck or just a simple sidestep. And what? Kuma and Gief? stfu. by your definition of how tekken is played, that means Kuma should already be top tier in at least one of the tekken games, right? Dumb article is Dumb. gnight

[23478ueyur_938223]

I don't care about Tekken so I'm naturally inclined to prefer Capcom's incarnation, as would Tekken fans be inclined to Namco's.

Having said that I believe Capcom will do a great job. They already made two Tekken characters who I do not care for look relatively cool and natural in SF's 2-space gameplay. Also, there is some amount of gameplay change as that one Tekken guy bounced off a wall after being hit, which would not have happened in SSF4. Also, Capcom seems to be giving the tools to get around projectiles to Tekken characters, which isn't surprising seeing as many non-projectile characters do exist in SF already.

While I don't think Namco's version will be 'bad,' like this guy does, I think it'll simply be 'bad' to SF players and great for Tekken players.

The only part I agree with is, I have no idea how the hell they are going to make projectiles work in 3-space. You'd have to combo into them is the only thing I can think of, otherwise you can just side-step and punish. Where SF is all about controlling 2D-space, this is not relevant in Tekken so Namco is going to have to step it up when it comes to making this worthy. I have the utmost faith in Capcom for doing that in their iteration.

I'll be buying SFxTekken, but simply because I am an SF/Capcom fan and not a Tekken fan. I'd expect Tekken fans to do the opposite and see no reason for them not to.

[Staude]

Now, while I realize that projectiles are not as common in tekken as they are in street fighter, the only tekken games where there were no chars that were able to "fire" something off were tekken 4 and possibly tekken 1 (I don't know if lei's gun worked and if devil could fire a laser in tekken one)

My point is. With Jinpachi, True ogre, Devil Jin and Devil Kazuya. You would imagine people wouldn't think this be such a big issue.

Ofcourse there's also Gun.. but most people didn't like Gun.. cause he was cheap. :P

Regardless. If I do get it i'll get the tekken version. Simply because I like tekkens system and I dislike most other fighters systems .. But that's just my personal preference :)

[23478ueyur_938223]

Like I said, Tekken fans will prefer the Tekken version.

The lasers are quite different than projectiles. I've used Devil Jin, he's the only laser user I've ever used, and you cannot really "control space" with it, since it is more of just a straight up attack than a pressure move (for example, in SF, repeated hadoukens if an enemy is turtling). The SF style of projectiles is pretty different than what Tekken offers so I'm just curious to see how Namco will work with that.

I have a feeling Capcom's answer to Tekken's longer/easier combos will probably be done through Target Combos and Supers. I'm curious to see if they'd give Tekken characters 1 frame links as things of such difficulty do not exist in the Tekken world. I'd imagine they would since that's just how SF is.

[FlintGREY]

@Satanas
You obviously don't know what you're talking about...just-frames very much exist in tekken and are just as difficult

[ShoryuSwordsman]

thank u flint, beat me to it. apparently santana hasn't heard of an electric, among many, many other things lol. in any case, all of tekken's projectiles are unblockable. to make it fair, they may just make normal hadokens/sonic booms/yoga fires/etc blockable. or just give them less recovery in order to compensate. either that or make the only projectiles special projectiles, like shinkuu hadoken. Either way, I'm more interested and seeing the additions to the movesets. if and when the sf characters get their additional moves to match the tekken universe, they'll be able to fight just fine without the need of fireballs, which would in turn make them obsolete in the tekken world, as they always were(aside from tekken 2 lol) and I would be completely fine with that. tekken x sf shouldn't be street fighter with added tekken flavor, that's capcom's job. tekken x sf should compliment the tekken franchise, so I'd be perfectly fine with fireballs being practically useless as a standalone move. personally i think they'll add it as part of the command combo's, like left punch, right punch, leftpunch + rightpunch (or for the tekken hardcore, 1,2,1+2) would be a quick one-two combo, followed by a fireball. at least that's how I expect they'll use it, cause I doubt they'll make it so that it's unusable when it's one of the definitive moves for a shoto.

[colonel179]

I am lost!
What is the difference between the two? Could someone explain?

Thank you very much!

[23478ueyur_938223]

Capcom is making SF x Tekken.

Namco is making Tekken x SF.

The former is 2D and plays within the spectrum of SSF4's fighting engine, and the latter presumably plays in Tekken 6 style.

So in other words, the Tekken characters in Capcom's game will be Capcom's version of the Tekken characters, and vice-versa for Namco's game.

This is probably the best choice, since SF4 fans will choose Capcom's version and Tekken 6 fans will choose Namco's.

[Chaylon]

Everyone knows street fighter + 3D enviroment = freaking sucks (remember the EX saga), i think capcom will win the fight.

[FlintGREY]

Wasn't the EX series made by Akira or something like that???

[man0fsteel]

expected this type of article from an unknown blog

[spartan_dx]

TEKKEN!

[pucpop]

I am wearing my Ryu PJs and doing imaginary fireballs at my dog... this game is gonna ROCK!

[darkdoom3000]

I like tekken more, thus- I shal get tekken X SF.
Actually I would rather have a full fledged Tekken in 2013. Possibly TekkenTag2

I couldn't care less about capcom characters, except Dante- which is the sole reason I'm getting MvC3.

[pinkyxyz]

but man i would be lying if i said i wasn't excited to see street fighter in 3d once again. they're hasn't been a good 3d street fighter since street fighter ex plus alpha (THAT GAME WAS THE SHIT) Who's with me!!!!!!

[MRMagoo123]

you mean it was sh1t i hope.

[pinkyxyz]

i didn't, that game was great