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Technically, Microsoft & Sony didn't 'steal' the idea for motion control

Microsoft and Sony are positioning their motion control devices as innovative and game-changing. Is there more to the story? Perhaps this explains it.

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IRetrouk5060d ago

thats true to an extent sony were the first ones to put it to use in games for a popular console.

CHARLIEBROWNE5060d ago

Didn't sony showcase motion tech to the industry 11 years ago?
Im pretty sure they did.

Brasi825060d ago

Didn't Nintendo have a motion control device 20 years ago? Wasn't a great one but they still had it. Nintendo Power Glove http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

IRetrouk5060d ago (Edited 5060d ago )

thats what i am saying, sony were the first company to put the motion tech to use in games. As a proper alternative to controling games with motion vs the early crap like the power glove.

rockleex5060d ago (Edited 5060d ago )

Anyways, Sony worked on motion gaming since the beginning of the PS2.

They even had motion controllers being demoed at events such as E3 and Games Con as early as 2000.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Sony ripped off the Wii 10 years ago? O_o

@Brasi82:

A glove is different from a controller. Plus, the very link you provided stated that it wasn't Nintendo's creation.

"Though it was an officially licensed product, Nintendo was not involved in the design or release of this accessory. Rather, it was designed by the team of Grant Goddard and Sam Davis for Abrams Gentile Entertainment (AGE), made by Mattel in the United States[1] and PAX in Japan."

sikbeta5060d ago (Edited 5060d ago )

These all are videos from long ago, with Dr Richard Marks demoing motion gaming with a camera:

this is with the 3dv camera that MS owns now:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

These are videos of Dr Richard Marks demoing motion-stuff with the PS2 and the EYETOY (last gen) =/= PS-EYE (better camera)

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

So, technically Sony didn't "steal" the idea from Nintendo, Dr Richard Marks explained in the First video that the 3dv camera has issues and it's expensive for what it can do, the other videos show how much he could implement motion-based gaming with the PS2 and the EYETOY, Sony have Patented the "wand" as shown in those videos since 2004, so they were redesigning and making the device better as we see Move now

That doesn't take any merit to Nintendo for releasing the wii-mote, N came out first, Sony waited, made their proprietary motion-device better and now they're ready to release it...

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TheBand1t5060d ago

And the Atari had something called Le Stick.

cgspicer5060d ago

Does the Move and the Eye use the same camera?

PirateThom5060d ago

It's the same camera, the camera is called Eye.

mdee5555060d ago

That Miyamoto smile is hilarious.

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plstcsldgr5060d ago

@chspicer the move a controller that works in conjunction with the eye to make a better motion control. it is a combination of the sixaxis motion and a camera capture.

Nintendo created console motion control with the power glove over 20 years ago

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Joy Ride Turbo - The Beginning of the End for Xbox Kinect

Joy Ride Turbo launched 10 years ago today. The first title was Xbox Kinect exclusive, yet this sequel failed to support the device at all.

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10 of the Biggest Video Game Hardware Failures Ever

Cultured Vultures: "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal, and no matter how much developers might try, some gaming hardware just fails to hit the mark. We’ve compiled a list of 10 gaming hardware fails, and boy did some fail hard."

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Knightofelemia859d ago

I would label the Power Glove, Kinect, and that Tony Hawk skateboard more as hardware addons hardware failure would be like the Virtual Boy and one day Stadia.

Magog858d ago

Kinect was bundled with every Xbox One and inflated the price on an already underpowered and low RAM machine so for the One it wasn't an accessory as much as a white elephant.

CaptainHenry916858d ago (Edited 858d ago )

Definitely the RROD but that power glove had a lot of issues as well. The Kinect just didn't work

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CrimsonWing69858d ago

Hardware add-ons are more like RAM or a video card, basically components that enhance capabilities or performance of the computer.

If you really want to get technical the Kinect is more of a peripheral device, kind of like a keyboard or mouse to a computer.

ThatsGaming858d ago

The person in this article obviously is not up on their gaming history....

Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Coleco Gemini, Commodore 128, Commodore Amiga, Atari 5200, Atari 7800 were all massive failures and in most cases cost their companies participating in future gaming generations.

Gamer79858d ago

Sega saturn (successful in Japan) and dreamcast were not failures.
Seems like you're not up on you're gaming history

septemberindecember858d ago

@Gamer79

How in the world are the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast not seen as failures? They both sold around 8M each, which is much lower than the ~30M that the Genesis had sold before it, and even the Master System before that. They were both the worst selling consoles in their respective generation (PS1, N64 outsold Saturn, PS2, GC, and Xbox outsold Dreamcast). Both of the consoles were incredibly short lived. The Saturn was discontinued in every territory but Japan after just three years. In Japan the console was discontinued after six years. Meanwhile the Dreamcast was discontinued worldwide in 2001 after launching in most territories in 1999 and in Japan in 1998. The failure of the Saturn and Dreamcast lead to Sega pulling out of the hardware market. Which, by the way, all of this occurred when Sega was massively dropping the price of their consoles quickly to compete. Sega was hemorrhaging money at this point.

None of this indicates a successful console. Saying the Saturn was a success because it did better in Japan is like saying the Vita is a success (they both sold around the same amount of units in Japan). Even the Wii U outsold these consoles worldwide.

Magog858d ago

The picture should be the 360 RROD. When I think of gaming hardware failures that's what springs to mind. Kinect and it's bundled price tag definitely hobbled the already underpowered Xbox One though for sure so I would give it a close second place.

porkChop858d ago (Edited 858d ago )

That's not what the author means by failures. It's about hardware that failed in terms of sales (Wii U) or just failed to deliver on its promise (Kinect).

Magog858d ago (Edited 858d ago )

Given that the 360 had a year head start, much easier hardware to develop for, was cheaper, and still ended up in third place I think it qualifies especially when you factor in the frustration and huge losses incurred by RROD.

porkChop858d ago

Selling over 80 million consoles isn't a sales flop. We get it, you don't like Xbox, but that doesn't mean the 360 is suddenly a failure.

Rhythmattic857d ago

Porky....
You know how many people I know bought a 2nd or third 360 due to RROD? Even when MS had to confront the issue with replacement systems, my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in, and waiting for a replacement.,,..,..
If that's how you consider it a win... OK.. but so is having 5 , of which 3 don't function.... Its a win win....mwhahahahaha

porkChop857d ago

"my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in"

You're acting like it would take months. When I sent my 360 in I got a new one literally 5 days later. As soon as MS had tracking confirmation that you sent yours, they'd send a new one to you the same day. No one is going to spend hundreds to buy a new console instead of waiting a week. I swear you guys pull some of the dumbest shit out of nowhere and think people will actually believe it.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about.

Rhythmattic857d ago (Edited 857d ago )

Porky
"You're acting like it would take months"
Sometimes it could.. FFS.. 'Strya here...
Best turnaround I reckon was 2-3 weeks.....
Either way, My mates experiences still exist.. So Sorry, no point trying to earn Xbox Achievements when it doesn't feature in what was a situation you never dealt with,,,,
3 of my friends would disagree (overall, 10 extra Xboxes purchased)
Regardless.. MS sold a lot of 360's that was due to this reason.. That is sales. Fact

"none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about."
Headline says HELLO !
Oh and "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal," that's enough to pass this on without taking your article bias into consideration.....
As for the rest.... Ok.. But you've actually gone out of your way to give MS a Pass... Fap on.

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Aloymetal858d ago (Edited 858d ago )

Yup, and because of that big fiasco MS had to fork out 1 billion but knowing them I think they're very proud of the 360, it's the only time a MS console reached 80mil+ sales, RROD played a big part of that and a record they will never break again.

Rhythmattic857d ago (Edited 857d ago )

So true.. Even when MS accepted they where caught out in the biggest lie of any generation, The wait for a replacement was outweighed by just buying another, and having one be returned as a backup, which, btw, generally failed on first swap.
I own honestly can't believe MS tards are just supporting , or arguing why and what MS did by just dismissing it....

lonewolf10858d ago

Lol I had the Atari Jaguar, surprised its "competition" the 3DO isn't on the list too, both as "popular" as each other.

SullysCigar858d ago

Lol same. Played the crap out of Aliens Vs Predator and Tempest 2000 .... aaand that's about it really!!

lonewolf10858d ago

Sad but true that was pretty much it.

Kurt Russell858d ago

Agreed, I never actually saw a 3DO make it to retailers in the UK. At least the Atari Jaguar was sold for around 6 months.

lonewolf10858d ago

It made it to some my brother got one, fared just as well as the Jaguar so most probably hard to find in general.

darthv72858d ago

3do had way better games. Jaguar not so much. Neo Geo sold less than both and yet isnt considered a failure. Go figure.

LWOGaming858d ago

Stadia is a weird one. It hasn’t sold at all well but in terms of how it works it’s still miles ahead of Xcloud in terms of stability and performance. Xcloud is still a way behind and that needs sorting but it will be in time. Stadia for me is one of those things that will go down as a what could have been moments. With better marketing it could have been a roaring success. I still play it and it remains the best place in my opinion to play CyberPunk 2077. Only platform I have played it on without having any issues at all. The tech is great. The concept is fine. Marketing terrible. Shame really.

Magog858d ago

The sales model was awful. They should have teamed with an existing player to allow for local and cloud access to games or a gaming subscription service.

LWOGaming858d ago

It was a strange mess from such a huge company, as I said, as a system it works really well but without gamers it’s nothing. Such a waste,

LWOGaming858d ago

The Xbox One was Microsoft’s Nintendo Wii U. Undercooked, undersold and just an unholy mess. The thing is with any of these failures is to learn from them and thankfully both Nintendo and Xbox did just that to the benefit of gamers everywhere.

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