Native 1080p games - Xbox 360 vs. PS3

Videogameszone compares native 1080p games for Xbox 360 and PS3.

[MysticStrummer]

Evidence like this doesn't matter. We all know sales determines quality.

[cobraagent]

If you are being sarcastic add a "/s" at the end of your comment otherwise you are ignorant

[Conloles]

Ahahaha native 1080P??? What like 2 games which run at 30 FPS with the scabbiest textures known to man? Pfft

[Mr Tretton]

He needs to do that because.....you can't detect sarcasm?

[WhittO]

Obviously he is being sarcastic, people really didn't catch on? lol.

[rezzah]

This guy once posted a vid with himself comparing the two, this was a freaking long time ago, i wished I saved the page. Anyways the outcome was that 360 didnt have true 180 and the PS3 did. He comfirmed this by showing us the coloured pixels on sreen. the PS3 had black against white pixels, where as the 360 has 1 or 2 grey box pixel between every white and balck pixel.

[sid4gamerfreak]

wait..wait r u telling me consoles can run 1080p games???

Oh right, games like sudoku and other sh** like that

where r the blockbuster games again???

Oh yea, they cant run in 1080p...man gaming on a console is like going back in time 5 years or so

[Phoenix43]

Well there is at least one big 1080p game on PS3. It's Wipeout HD, also one of the best games on the platform. Graphics are great and the game runs 60 fps.
I trust you haven't forgotten about Gran Turismo?

Of course PC is ahead of console gameming in technical terms but on the other hand more good looking games are released for consoles than PC.

I don't mean to start a fight between PC and console gamers. I'm a PC gamer too. PC/PS3 gamer to be exact. :)

[sid4gamerfreak]

@below: Ok fine lets just assume that wipeout hd is a big game on the platform. Where r the others then? WHy arent the big hyped ps3 exclusives getting 1080p? Gran turismo is 1280x1080 which is not 1080p.

Most ps3 games dont run 1080p. The key work here is "most" Some do, but those arent the real graphical powerhouses, r they?

There r several good looking games on the pc and more and more r being released. Even metro 2033 with high pc graphics blows any console game...

I have a ps3 myself but the console fanboys in this site treat the pc platfrom like shit. I dont lose respect for the console itself, i just lose respect for the fanboys here defending it and being blinded with their own ignorance

[RageAgainstTheMShine]

Yeah, like 40 million compact cars have better quality than 36 million sports cars because they sold more. :)

[mrv321]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Seems plausible... test it for yourself, I don't have a 1080p TV and I don't really care too much, but if you want to test and prove him wrong or right it's up to you.

[IneedWeed]

Wow what a trip. Good comparisons. As of hardware of todays console. It would not be wise to make games 1080p native since it'll cut performance down a lot. I need a good computer to run 1080p games at very high settings. Next gen we should see 1080p for what it really is.

[Space_cancer]

Well basicly what you see in the video is PS3 showing the 1080p test image with no full-scene anti-aliasing (FSAA)

While Xbox 360 is showing the 1080p test image with 4xFSAA. Without aliasing it would look exactly the same as the PS3 image. Or vice versa.

End of story

[yewles1]

"While Xbox 360 is showing the 1080p test image with 4xFSAA. Without aliasing it would look exactly the same as the PS3 image. Or vice versa. End of story"

...that's not how AA's supposed to look on ANY picture...

[Space_cancer]

On full-screen images the Xenos can do 4x FSAA Full-scene anti-aliasing by supersampling usually means that each full frame is rendered at double (2x) or quadruple (4x) the display resolution, and then down-sampled to match the display resolution. So a 4x FSAA would render 16 supersampled pixels for each single pixel of each frame.

PS3 is showing 1 pixel on a grid-pixel horizontal and vertical line image no FSAA, however Xbox 360 samples 4 pixel on a grid-pixel, 4 pixel horizontal and 4 pixel vertical line image making 16 supersampling on 1 pixel rendering the frame quadruple 4x FSAA.

Pretty much matches to the test picture in the video.

Care to tell how aliasing is supposed to look if not this?

[raztad]

Why the xbox would be applying 4xFSAA to that picture? where you get that?

EDIT:

One possible answer to my question is: picture is 720p upscaled, so the xbox smooths it using AA.

[kneon]

While the test is interesting it doesn't necessarily prove that games on the 360 can't use true 1080p.

The Xbox 360 was never intended to do 1080p, if it was then they would have given it a frame buffer big enough for at least one full 1080p frame, but they didn't. I expect the OS doesn't try to pull any tricks to render true 1080p so in this test it's just an upscaled 720p image. But developers can do more and may be able to pull off true 1080p.

[Anon1974]

1080p works fine on my home theater system from other sources, but it chokes whenever my 360 tries to do 1080p through the component cables. I've phoned Microsoft about the issue and they've helpfully told me "It must be your TV."

My set's brand new and doesn't have an issue with other 1080p sources as I mentioned, so I'm leaning towards a 360 problem rather than a TV problem.

Anyone able to get their 360 to do 1080p over component cables?

[Independent_Charles]

try 1080i instead on the 360 settings that should sort the problem out. :)

[goxbox360]

Old news.

I saw one that counted 42 for PS3 and 7 for 360, a while ago.

[xino]

obviously ps3 is better because Xbox 360 Always upscale!

[4cough]

Can some write an article on how many subHD games there are on the PS3/360. I know for a change the ps3 will be the front runner in that department.

[wissam]

That honor belong to x360 exclusive games I think.

[goxbox360]

Go to beyond and see for yourself. You're wrong.

[Neko_Mega]

Try playing DOA XV2 for 360, it is a 720p game and with a little update it changes it to thinking it is 1080p (Looks worst at 1080p).

Just tells you that 360 likes to fake their 1080p games, sorry but their was already a test on which has the most 1080p games and PS3 won. Mostly do to all the 1080p games on PSN.

Keep in mind the was like in 2006 or 07, so the list is much bigger and the biggest 1080p game on PS3 is MGS4.

[xg-ei8ht]

Why does this still rage on.

p does not indicate picture quality.

Detail,art,movement and most importantly gameplay do.

If a game is crap, no matter the rez, it's still crap.

[Voltago]

just look at Alan Wake. Lots of style and atmosphere.

[Spenok]

Well said, i always wondered why people put graphics at the forfront of gameing enjoyment.

[SonyPS360]

Ever since the Ps3 had the nicer looking graphics it's the only thing in the world that's mattered.

[goxbox360]

hows gameplay equal picture quality.

luls

[gypsygib]

All I know is that most of my 360 exclusives don't even reach 720p. But as long as the game looks good it's not a major issues.

[TheNocturnus]

Then why does the back of most Ps3 games say it runs at 720p or less? EVERY 360 game runs at 1080P or less. Sorry, but it's true, look at your game cases.

[gypsygib]

The 360 case is a lie, anything can be upscaled to 1080p if the 360 is set to display 1080p. The PS3 cases have the games actual resolution and don't mislead; all PS3 games can also be displayed in 1080p if you disable the lower resolutions like on xbox. Difference is, normally the PS3 switches the resolution to match the game whereas the 360 will automatically upscale it .: degrading the visual fidelity.

[NeutralGamer]

PS3 cases does not have actual resolutions...

MGS4 is Sub HD, but yet the case tells 1080p...

[theonlylolking]

The xbox 360 cant do native 1080p. It just upscales it.

[corneliuscrust]

before commenting on things you don't know.

[Voltago]

... so called HD consoles can't produce native 1080p in ALL games. Come on, it's 2010! Look at the list of games, that's quite disappointing. DO we really have to wait for the next generation of next gen consoles?

[corneliuscrust]

Was a late addition to the "HD" standard. These consoles really weren't built to push the graphics they are pushing at that res. Some talented devs can do it, but most of the best looking games this gen are not rendered in native 1080p

[WhoopDiDoo]

... that's an explanation but not an excuse, imho

[The real killer]

Wait, 360 has no single 1080p games, only PS3 has the real 1080p games like Lair/GT5/Wipe Out and future games on the PS3 will 1080p support.

Fifa has 1080p, but it's only upscale from 720p to 1080p, the 360 can only cheat with their Upscale chip to 1080p resolution, but than you will see the pixels get blurry on the most 360 games.

The 360 hardware is not even capable to output 1080p resolution, the Xenos GPu cannot output 2 megapixel resolution in real time, only the RSX can do that.

[Independent_Charles]

gt5 is not full 1080p
GT5 Prologue works in 1280x1080 and uses PS3 upscaling trick - by repeating some pixels in anamorphic picture to 1920x1080. So 50% upscale.(It's actually less than GT HD's 1440x1080) 1280x1080 and 2xAA 1280x720 and 4xAA Confirmed by the same guy from Halo 3 resolution discovery.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

and overall the rsx is a weaker GPU.

[Edito]

Explain to me plz cause im confused here lol does 360 DVD games do a native 1080p resolution like the PS3 Blu-Ray discs??? lol... seriously???

[Dusdg]

Resolution has nothing to do with the size of the disk. My computer only has a dvd rom but i can bet you i play games at a higher res. The you do on either a 360 or PS3.