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Kinect a 'touchless touchscreen' says Acclaim founder

Yoostar 2, a game described as movie karaoke, is the latest effort from the Yoostar Group.

After our time with the game we caught up with Acclaim founder and Yoostar Group CEO Greg Fischbach and quizzed him on the Kinect technology used to put the gamers into the game.

"I saw Microsoft and Spielberg introduce Kinect at E3 in June of last year. I thought 'this is real innovation going on here,' and we thought we could learn to use gesture technology in a lot other applications too, in terms of how we move things on screen. When I'm describing it to a friend I call it a 'touchless touchscreen' because people sometimes don't get it. But the ability to move something on the screen, that dynamic is so much different than anything we've ever seen before. It makes Kinect very interesting in terms of technology

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Omega45040d ago (Edited 5040d ago )

"[The PS3 version] works basically the same way, the difference is that it uses the motion controller over the joypad, whereas this game only uses gesture and speech technology to control it"

I thought the PSEye had speech recognition :S

@Hyrius
Can't be very good if devs are choosing not to use it

Hyrius5040d ago (Edited 5040d ago )

It has.

http://us.playstation.com/p...

Nice troll attempt.

wazzim5040d ago

PSeye is a really good tech, almost the same as Kinect in concept. It only misses full 3D tracking and support if the lights are off.

D4RkNIKON5040d ago

wazzim, the lights can be off for Move. That is what the glowing orbs are good for.

FragMnTagM5040d ago

he was specifically referring to the PSEYE, not the Move.

cellypower5040d ago (Edited 5040d ago )

Dude, speech recognition can be used with any headset mic or microphone and eye toy has a mic. Speech recognition tech is software based.

IdleLeeSiuLung5040d ago (Edited 5040d ago )

For the most part though it is software related! ... and like any software it is dependent on the developer of said software for it's success:

a) is the API is easy to use?

b) quality of said voice recognition (arguably the most important reason)

Baka-akaB5040d ago

stop being so stupid , even the n64 had voice recognition and games using it . What's next claiming microsoft will reinvent the wheel ?

bjornbear5040d ago

thats ancient tech.

how about precision and good games? isn't that slightly more important to you as a gamer?

oh your not a gamer your a fanboy, sorry i mixed you up wit someone else.

Baka-akaB5040d ago (Edited 5040d ago )

bah he obviously didnt even touch a DS in his life ... too busy being smitten by the idea of launching a movie slower than with a pad or remote .

Show me actual gaming related feat , and then i'll care . Not some shiny tool for overweight espn fans

IdleLeeSiuLung5040d ago (Edited 5040d ago )

I had voice recognition on my Sound Blaster 16 (PC Sound card) about 15-years ago. The difference was that voice recognition back then was crappy.

It's about the quality of said voice recognition, not if it is available. That's like saying HDTV are crap since I had black and white TV back in the 50's!

Folezicle5040d ago (Edited 5040d ago )

Your wrong mate Sony would never lie, they always under-hype stuff. Unlike M$ or should I say Micro & Soft, Sony don't do it for the money, they're giving out Move to the poor kids in Africa, whilst Microsoft sell their Kinect for billions and it will fail because I know the future, and it is a piece of crap anyway.. I know because I haven't played it, and that M$ site is full of lies, but Sony's isn't because Sony added the blu-ray player (you should get it for the blu-ray player even if you already have an ld blu-ray player) at no extra cost.. And all your exclusives suck because your on Xbox, and I haven't played them because I only play good games (which only come to the PS3.) Oh and u have to pay $7 a month hahahahahahaha! SOO much money you can buy a McDonalds meal with that.. Oh and the new Xbox Slim still gets millions of red rings, hahahahaha! Yeh and you know Sony sent a rocket ship and found a PS3 on an alien planet, thats how advanced the technology is. And the Move is better than the Kinect, who cares if neither of them have got negative feedback, We all know that Kinect sucks because its not Sony, and it copied all the ideas off the Eye-Toy, Move though is a fresh idea. SonySoldiers unite! Let us do what our masters want, and give them more free advertisement

Maybe if i add more mis-spelt words and bad grammer I can pass off as an ignorant 12 year old. I don't mind 12 year olds that are smart and realise that both consoles are good, but I hate fan-boys.

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Chaostar5040d ago (Edited 5040d ago )

"I'm a tech-junkie," said Fischbach. "I have an iPad, an iPod, an iPhone, and I think the gesture technology is really cool."

Lol they're all basically the same thing in different sizes.

On Topic: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Edit: lol the guy in the video has HD-DVDs.

wicked5040d ago

Why would he throw his HD-DVD's away just because he now also has a blu-ray player? Do they suddenly stop working?

Chaostar5040d ago

I was laughing at the fact he bought one in the first place.

IdleLeeSiuLung5040d ago

I bought an HD-DVD drive for the 360. Actually I bought two, after the format failed in the bargain bin.

I paid like $20 for each drive and each drive gave me 5-6 movies to boot. I now have a collection of probably 12 or so HD-DVD movies. The external HD-DVD drive doubles as a PC external DVD-Rom drive.

Why would I throw that out?

Obama5040d ago

Can you buy any new HD-DVD movies? Can you find any in major retail stores? Guess not.

PITTBULL835040d ago (Edited 5040d ago )

very true about the APPLE monopoly, I also have an HD-DVD player for my original XBOX 360 BUT my wife bought it for me when it was only 20 dollars at WALMART, i wasn't going to spend 200 dollars on that add-on.

ON TOPIC.....This game looks like it could be really fun for both systems.

BE A GAMER NOT A HATER

tdrules5040d ago

touchscreen - touch = screen

eh?

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TEFL0N_D0N_815040d ago

The PS Eye only has one camera, hence it can only seen in mono-vision. It cannot tell depth. The Move scheme gets around this by using the glowing ball to tell distance depending on the size of the ball. Pretty smart way to go about it.

The Kinect mimics our own senses by having two cameras, creating stereo vision, giving it depth perception. Another smart way too, but much harder to implement. The point is, Kinect is not a copy of PS Eye. Anyone disagreeing needs to go get an education.

It seems that the Kinect should have stayed in development a little longer. The concept is awesome, but short of a 'Minority Report (should watch the movie)' control scheme, it's still somewhat limited to simple interfaces for games. This is probably why we've only seen simple casual games so far (except maybe some racing games). To play an FPS with Kinect, they'll have to designate a separate gesture for a running command. Like maybe slapping your own face or something.

jack_burt0n5040d ago

LMAO, yeah but mr cruise had buttons.

strickers5040d ago

That does not change the basic similarities in gameplay between PSEye and Kinect.That's common sense,you either have it or you don't,education only does so much.
To the people talking about voice control.PSEye has a 4 way array of noise cancelling mics and did it way before Kinect/Wiispeak and PS3 has voice control of Singstar and has had it for months.

TEFL0N_D0N_815040d ago

well then, where do you want to start? With the invention of the camera? How about the evolution of the single eye? Get of Sony's dick man. You're so on that shit that you're almost in it. There's almost nothing out there today that isn't based off a previous invention. Sony tech is definitely not the first in anything, and neither is Microsoft tech.

Two cameras do make a big difference. How'd you like to lose one eye and go play basketball? Let's see how many shots you make.

Smootherkuzz5040d ago

With the Processing power of the Xbox 360 and the Processing power of the Kinect I think this is why it falls short of whats needed to deliver the minority report effects for games.I think alot of processing power is needed also video power.But being where games are right now I think it will do well(we all like new toys).The next Generation of consoles we will see even more towards minority report type stuff, for now it is what it is(check out PrimeSense site).they make the processor in the Kinect. I can see improvement on the next IC to do more.You know the PS3 would have been a better console right now for the Kinect because of its processing power but its a shame Sony is holding it back by only using minimal cores maybe its to keep the price down but what a waste can you think what this system could be if they opened it up.

TEFL0N_D0N_815040d ago

You're probably right. The Cell design is probably better suited to handle this. But Sony went with the Move. Initially I think Move will showcase much better games, but down the road who know what they'll come up with. I won't get move because I like the PS3 set up just the way it is. I'll probably get the new Raven controller if anything. As for Kinect, I might get it for the cool Xbox dashboard interface, but I won't lie to myself and think that the games will be bad ass. At least not anytime soon.

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Joy Ride Turbo - The Beginning of the End for Xbox Kinect

Joy Ride Turbo launched 10 years ago today. The first title was Xbox Kinect exclusive, yet this sequel failed to support the device at all.

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10 of the Biggest Video Game Hardware Failures Ever

Cultured Vultures: "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal, and no matter how much developers might try, some gaming hardware just fails to hit the mark. We’ve compiled a list of 10 gaming hardware fails, and boy did some fail hard."

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Knightofelemia829d ago

I would label the Power Glove, Kinect, and that Tony Hawk skateboard more as hardware addons hardware failure would be like the Virtual Boy and one day Stadia.

Magog828d ago

Kinect was bundled with every Xbox One and inflated the price on an already underpowered and low RAM machine so for the One it wasn't an accessory as much as a white elephant.

CaptainHenry916828d ago (Edited 828d ago )

Definitely the RROD but that power glove had a lot of issues as well. The Kinect just didn't work

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CrimsonWing69828d ago

Hardware add-ons are more like RAM or a video card, basically components that enhance capabilities or performance of the computer.

If you really want to get technical the Kinect is more of a peripheral device, kind of like a keyboard or mouse to a computer.

ThatsGaming828d ago

The person in this article obviously is not up on their gaming history....

Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Coleco Gemini, Commodore 128, Commodore Amiga, Atari 5200, Atari 7800 were all massive failures and in most cases cost their companies participating in future gaming generations.

Gamer79828d ago

Sega saturn (successful in Japan) and dreamcast were not failures.
Seems like you're not up on you're gaming history

septemberindecember828d ago

@Gamer79

How in the world are the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast not seen as failures? They both sold around 8M each, which is much lower than the ~30M that the Genesis had sold before it, and even the Master System before that. They were both the worst selling consoles in their respective generation (PS1, N64 outsold Saturn, PS2, GC, and Xbox outsold Dreamcast). Both of the consoles were incredibly short lived. The Saturn was discontinued in every territory but Japan after just three years. In Japan the console was discontinued after six years. Meanwhile the Dreamcast was discontinued worldwide in 2001 after launching in most territories in 1999 and in Japan in 1998. The failure of the Saturn and Dreamcast lead to Sega pulling out of the hardware market. Which, by the way, all of this occurred when Sega was massively dropping the price of their consoles quickly to compete. Sega was hemorrhaging money at this point.

None of this indicates a successful console. Saying the Saturn was a success because it did better in Japan is like saying the Vita is a success (they both sold around the same amount of units in Japan). Even the Wii U outsold these consoles worldwide.

Magog828d ago

The picture should be the 360 RROD. When I think of gaming hardware failures that's what springs to mind. Kinect and it's bundled price tag definitely hobbled the already underpowered Xbox One though for sure so I would give it a close second place.

porkChop828d ago (Edited 828d ago )

That's not what the author means by failures. It's about hardware that failed in terms of sales (Wii U) or just failed to deliver on its promise (Kinect).

Magog828d ago (Edited 828d ago )

Given that the 360 had a year head start, much easier hardware to develop for, was cheaper, and still ended up in third place I think it qualifies especially when you factor in the frustration and huge losses incurred by RROD.

porkChop828d ago

Selling over 80 million consoles isn't a sales flop. We get it, you don't like Xbox, but that doesn't mean the 360 is suddenly a failure.

Rhythmattic827d ago

Porky....
You know how many people I know bought a 2nd or third 360 due to RROD? Even when MS had to confront the issue with replacement systems, my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in, and waiting for a replacement.,,..,..
If that's how you consider it a win... OK.. but so is having 5 , of which 3 don't function.... Its a win win....mwhahahahaha

porkChop827d ago

"my mates couldn't wait for even the turnaround of sending it in"

You're acting like it would take months. When I sent my 360 in I got a new one literally 5 days later. As soon as MS had tracking confirmation that you sent yours, they'd send a new one to you the same day. No one is going to spend hundreds to buy a new console instead of waiting a week. I swear you guys pull some of the dumbest shit out of nowhere and think people will actually believe it.

Regardless, none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about.

Rhythmattic827d ago (Edited 827d ago )

Porky
"You're acting like it would take months"
Sometimes it could.. FFS.. 'Strya here...
Best turnaround I reckon was 2-3 weeks.....
Either way, My mates experiences still exist.. So Sorry, no point trying to earn Xbox Achievements when it doesn't feature in what was a situation you never dealt with,,,,
3 of my friends would disagree (overall, 10 extra Xboxes purchased)
Regardless.. MS sold a lot of 360's that was due to this reason.. That is sales. Fact

"none of this changes the fact that this isn't what the article is even about."
Headline says HELLO !
Oh and "Sadly, not all hardware is created equal," that's enough to pass this on without taking your article bias into consideration.....
As for the rest.... Ok.. But you've actually gone out of your way to give MS a Pass... Fap on.

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Aloymetal828d ago (Edited 828d ago )

Yup, and because of that big fiasco MS had to fork out 1 billion but knowing them I think they're very proud of the 360, it's the only time a MS console reached 80mil+ sales, RROD played a big part of that and a record they will never break again.

Rhythmattic827d ago (Edited 827d ago )

So true.. Even when MS accepted they where caught out in the biggest lie of any generation, The wait for a replacement was outweighed by just buying another, and having one be returned as a backup, which, btw, generally failed on first swap.
I own honestly can't believe MS tards are just supporting , or arguing why and what MS did by just dismissing it....

lonewolf10828d ago

Lol I had the Atari Jaguar, surprised its "competition" the 3DO isn't on the list too, both as "popular" as each other.

SullysCigar828d ago

Lol same. Played the crap out of Aliens Vs Predator and Tempest 2000 .... aaand that's about it really!!

lonewolf10828d ago

Sad but true that was pretty much it.

Kurt Russell828d ago

Agreed, I never actually saw a 3DO make it to retailers in the UK. At least the Atari Jaguar was sold for around 6 months.

lonewolf10828d ago

It made it to some my brother got one, fared just as well as the Jaguar so most probably hard to find in general.

darthv72828d ago

3do had way better games. Jaguar not so much. Neo Geo sold less than both and yet isnt considered a failure. Go figure.

LWOGaming828d ago

Stadia is a weird one. It hasn’t sold at all well but in terms of how it works it’s still miles ahead of Xcloud in terms of stability and performance. Xcloud is still a way behind and that needs sorting but it will be in time. Stadia for me is one of those things that will go down as a what could have been moments. With better marketing it could have been a roaring success. I still play it and it remains the best place in my opinion to play CyberPunk 2077. Only platform I have played it on without having any issues at all. The tech is great. The concept is fine. Marketing terrible. Shame really.

Magog828d ago

The sales model was awful. They should have teamed with an existing player to allow for local and cloud access to games or a gaming subscription service.

LWOGaming828d ago

It was a strange mess from such a huge company, as I said, as a system it works really well but without gamers it’s nothing. Such a waste,

LWOGaming828d ago

The Xbox One was Microsoft’s Nintendo Wii U. Undercooked, undersold and just an unholy mess. The thing is with any of these failures is to learn from them and thankfully both Nintendo and Xbox did just that to the benefit of gamers everywhere.

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Pivotal Decisions in Gaming History - Xbox Goes All-In on Kinect

Xbox 360's Kinect had flopped yet Microsoft insisted on mandatory Kinect for Xbox One, driving the price up and alienating their potential customers.

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darthv721005d ago

the tech was pretty damn good but their focus on making it the centerpiece was not. Had they opted to keep it as a secondary or even tertiary device, it may have found new use for AR/VR.

PrimeVinister1005d ago

Maybe. But they were two early for VR and too late for motion control

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Godmars2901005d ago

Their focus was marketing metrics. Information gathering for targeted advertising. Also "event curating" or head counting for special TV events. If MS had had their way with always online and mandatory Kinect pre COVID, as and during it they'd likely be turning into dominant presence in many Western homes. Be getting subsidized by Disney and other streamers as well as the NFL.

Thing was, Kinect as an actual game system, its games, just weren't ready. MS moved on it too soon. Thankfully.

Atticus_finch1005d ago

Sorry but it was incredibly bad for gaming. The thing barely worked as intended and the games were broken shovelware. And let's not forget all the lies from Xbox to try and sell it. What happened to Milo?
It's like Xbox it's a perpetual lying machine.

PrimeVinister1005d ago

I had almost forgotten about Milo. It looks so unbelievable in retrospect. How did anyone believe it?!

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TheEnigma3131005d ago

Kinect requirement, TV focused, DRM, and $100 buried Xbone before it even stared.

PrimeVinister1005d ago (Edited 1005d ago )

I think Kinect was the worst of the bunch. They reversed DRM overnight and try to play down the TV stuff when they realised it made them look disinterested in gaming.

Kinect stuck around for six months, preventing sales and making more and more people upset when they dropped the Kinect and the price.

Atticus_finch1005d ago

Don't forget the inferior hardware which affects their game development to this day.
And the constant boasting and lying that hasn't change very much to this day.

kayoss1005d ago

I was kind of excited for the kinect. It had potential. That was until i tried it at one of their Microsoft store. The thing was so laggy and worker who was there, had no clue what he was doing. It kind of made rethink about buying an Xbox One with Kinect.

PrimeVinister1005d ago

I had already been turned off of the idea by Kinect for 360. Even when it worked, the games were bad and showed no potential.

Wii made you understand what they were going to do with it within about 10 seconds of Wii Sports. It went on to become a bit of a joke but at least it worked and had a purpose.

Thundercat771005d ago

The damage to the Xbox brand was so hard that til this day they are just the last place brand in the market.

PrimeVinister1005d ago

Totally. They haven't been really all that relevant since.

Godmars2901005d ago

That has to do with repeatedly failing, having to reaffirm only to again fail at creating a competent flow of decent games.

@PrimeVinister:
Until Game Pass and BC are mentioned. Only for the point to be missed.

kayoss1005d ago

thats because they dont know what they want to be. A gaming console, Television, or a gaming service?

Godmars2901004d ago

@kayoss:
They wanted, expected, to be Steam. To have everyone coming to them and paying for the privilege. That's the exact mentality on display when they tried to push always online.

brewin1004d ago

Its sad because the Xbox one version of Kinect was actually pretty solid. Not for motion games, I couldnt care less about those, but for the other features that are now commonplace in the gaming ecosystem. Things like voice control and optional motion features in games. Stuff that Sony did with the PS camera was pretty sweet and they could have done some of that stuff with Kinect.

The tech was pretty sweet when implemented right though. Who remembers the implementation in Dead Rising 3?! You could lure zombies away by saying stuff into the kinect, it was a bit hokey at first, but it actually enhanced the game significantly once you learned all the different voice commands. There was and still is nothing else like that!

The focus on TV seemed to be an issue for people, but the TV pass through had some real potential. They could have had cable companies giving the XBone out instead of cable boxes! I understood what they were trying to do, but they needed to show the games too, and thats where they lost the core gamers. Being able to jump right to a sports event or TV show with out leaving the console was actually a pretty cool thing. I spent many nights switching between NHL games or TV shows and jumping right back into my games seamlessly, just by telling Kinect to do so. It was better than people care to admit, but I loved it!

People say XBone had no games, but on launch I got Dead Rising 3, AC Black Flag, Watch Dogs, Killer Instinct, Battlefield 4, Forza 5, and Ryse. That was actually a pretty solid lineup in hindsight! Then later on it got gems like Quantum Break, Dead Rising 4, Sunset Overdrive, Gears 4 and 5, the Ori games, Rare Replay, Forza Horizon 3/4, State of Decay 2, ReCore (SUPER UNDERRATED GEM), Halo 5, Halo Wars 2, and all the great 3rd party stuff as well! I dare anyone who sat on the Xbox One to go back and give it a shot now.

It was actually a pretty great console all things considered. Yes the PS4 had better 1st party stuff, stuff that MS just couldnt top or even compete with, but there are some really great games that a lot of people missed out on that they would probably really enjoy if they actually played them. Thats why I recommend a Series S and Gamepass to a lot of people, as its a great way to get an awesome lineup pf games for super cheap!

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