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PS Plus-Not an Xbox Live, Not Even Close

PS3Center- Games usually look better on PS3, the features are usually better, and the fanboys are normally correct. However this doesn’t mean we(PS3Center) dont have heads on our shoulders that think otherwise at times. PlayStation Plus is one of these times, and just like Sony’s E3 conference, it’s not very impressive.

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MariaHelFutura5042d ago (Edited 5042d ago )

No it`s not, you actually get something with PSN+

XBL allows you to use your internet connection, don`t get it twisted.

PoSTedUP5042d ago

it ISNT an XBL, it is not suppose to be. PSN+ offers value for your money for tangible things like games and content. XBL offers value for your money with, umm, i guess... what ever your opinion is on how it offers value for your money : ).

Merivigian5042d ago

"PSN+ offers value for your money for tangible..." let me stop ya there. Can you personally hold a downloaded game? No? Well.. how about that free PS3 theme? No!? What? Well what about that DLC? Not that either? Oh okay.. but I'm sure there are a lot more tangible things PSN+ offers, right? Good!

morganfell5042d ago (Edited 5042d ago )

PS+. Out motto? "We're optional!" Or how about, "PS+, paying for the purchase price in the first week with free games!" There are numerous choices that all signal the value in PS+.

Xbox Live. Our motton? "Charging you twice for the internet you already own!"

SSKILLZ5042d ago (Edited 5042d ago )

@Merivigian

and on XBL how much of the stuff that it offers is worth buying besides having cross game chat which is part of what you get when you subscribe, also having online which is some thing PSN users get FREE.

PS Plus is just a nice bonus and most of the stuff offered in XBL are being matched by the ever expanding PSN service and if we don't have it mow will have it sooner or later.

kneon5042d ago

It's silly to compare PSN+ with XBox live. In it's current state PSN+ is mainly just a content subscription service, it has almost nothing in common with Live. Go ahead and compare PSN and Live, but PSN+ is something else, at least for now.

PoSTedUP5042d ago

i was going to re-phrase that but left it because im sure yall know what i meant. but oh, thanks for ever so proving me wrong Mr. Dictionary, and thanks for the lesson (for the people who didn't know what tangible meant.)

Dee_915042d ago

because it just came out a few weeks ago

Spydiggity5042d ago

it doesn't matter what Sony does, it's a god send. and it doesn't matter what ms does, it's the devil at work.

why even keep trying to have this discussion? let the ps3 guys have a 1 sided conversation with themselves. then they'll be happy, and the rest of the gamers don't have to waste their time being baffled at such blind, pointless support.

Anon19745041d ago

PSN+ is all about content, from it's free games to it's video magazine. Compare PSN and Xbl if you will, but PSN+ isn't supposed to be XBL. XBL you pay fees to game online, PSN+ you pay for extra content.

As for the rest of this article, I found it rambling mess. I can't even figure out point the author is trying to make. "Can you imagine if you had to pay for Home?" "It will be an amazing service and have a lot to offer PS3 gamers in the future, but I’m focused on now."

What the hell is this author even talking about? I purchased PSN+ and I've got a helluva lot of content now. WipeoutHD, fun little mini's, discounts on games I'd been eying up for some time and Qore.

What a mess this article is.

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Shang-Long5042d ago

psn plus your paying for extra stuff
xbox live your paying for stuff that should be free already.

so hes right they arent even close

StanLee5042d ago

Games usually look better on PS3. WRONG.
The features are usually better. WRONG, again!
The fanboys are normally correct. Wrong. Wow, 3 for 3, impressive.

Spydiggity5042d ago

Stan, it's only wrong if you are capable of rational thought. which is exactly why when this flamebait article has come and gone, you'll have way fewer agrees than disagrees.

n4gno5041d ago

Only in your dreams stan lee, but te facts is :

- not a single game on xbox can compete with uncharted, killzone, etc graphics = facts.

- features ? bluray, internet brower, vidzone, home, bluetooth, etc etc = fact.

- for the fanboyz, you are right...but the only one here, are the blind xbox fanboyz in denial/delusional state.

sikbeta5042d ago

"PS Plus-Not an Xbox Live, Not Even Close... PS+ is an OPTIONAL Service and don't Charge to Play On-Line"

That would be a Better Title...

GreenRingOfLife5042d ago

Playing online is optional as well

cjflora5042d ago

Way to use that one bubble there Green...way to go.

Philaroni5042d ago

@sikbeta

Dude nice call, I was thinking the same thing, the act of desperation from Green is always a sweet one for us on N4G.

But anyway, best to look at PS+ as like a best buy rewards card if anything. Not the best example but it works, or a Sams Club member. It very much will benefit the PS3 user who is very active like myself. XBL is very much great in its own right as well. I kind of like the divide atm between the two.

badz1495042d ago

a single bubble for the single most DUMBEST comment of the day! good job!

JustTheFactsMr5042d ago

"Playing online is optional as well"

2 bad paying $30 instead of $60 for half a game isn't.

n4gno5041d ago (Edited 5041d ago )

"not even close" is so ridiculous..(for psn, psn+..is just a +)

ridiculous like love daddy, ik i kr ip, and others troll fanboyz, who are lying to others, and themself : "ps3 collecting dust", "without rrod, sony would not have a gaming division today" and other funny statement from xbox owners, who don't own a ps3...every single gamer i know, who have bought a ps3, after 360, say "online, better/dedicated servers, xmb = better, less cheap style, + bluray, + better games, so don't try to invent, not a single ps3 player will buy a xbox, if they don't already have one)

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Shadow Flare5042d ago

well whatever psn+ is, i've seen no value in it. I already own all the games that i wanted to own, so when i saw the list of free games i could get if i signed up, i couldn't see any point. The only good thing i see about subscribing is the free game trials. But that isn't enough for me. So in my case, psn+ is just pointless. They really need to add some better features

MariaHelFutura5042d ago

I own all the stuff too, so I haven`t got it yet. All I know is for the GT5 and LBP2 DLC I`m gonna be all over this service.

specialguest5042d ago

Furthermore, PSN Plus to me is like paying for a coupon book. Aside from that, it doesn't add any new value to my online gaming experience.

Shadow Flare5042d ago

lol you put it really well specialguest. That's exactly what psn+ seems like to me too. A coupon book. I want features, not discounts. Some things i'd want to see are being able to play my own music in EVERY game, video recording your own gameplay, a far better web browser (google chrome) and just fixing stupid little things like not having to quit the game to turn off notification messages, and being able to go to the xmb in-game while playing psone games. I'd pay for that, because those are features. Not a little coupon booklet

TrailerParkSupervisr5042d ago

I, for one, do buy a lot of PSN games and whatnot so this was a no-brainer. But, if I am low on cash and I cannot afford it for a month or so after my subscription expires, I can still play online and that is the core reason I have and Internet connection, anyway.

And once the cross game chat hits, I's well worth what I pay.

And just to clarify this cross game chat thing: People keep saying, "Why do I want to talk to my mate who is playing some other game when I am trying to focus on the one I am playing???"

Well, I, for one, will use it as a party feature. I will get 4 of my friends into chat, we will jump into BF or whatever and be able to talk to each other the whole time and actually stratagize and NOT have to listen to all the dumbasses out there yelling and screaming and rapping and shit.

tplarkin75042d ago

Someone who actually uses Xbox Live can give an honest comparison to PSN. And, this is coming from a PS site.

NewZealander5042d ago

i think both xbox gold and psn+ are just a way to milk the consumer.

xbox gold gives you online play, twitter and facebook, halo waypoint, discounts, early access to demos and betas, and a load of other useless stuff.

psn+ gives you what basically amounts to rental games as long as you keep paying for the service, discounts, full game trials (thats actually a rather good idea) early access to demos and betas, automatic downloads (this should be free anyway)

so one service uses online play as its main selling point, the other tempts with free-ish games, at the end of the day you are paying for the content anyway.

i refuse to pay for either service, i spend more then enough money buying dlc and other content so theres no way im paying for overpriced services that should be free in the first place.

infamous-butcher5042d ago

PSN is ment to be the competitor to Xbox Live, PSN+ is a sourse of revenue for sony which benifets both sides. Consumers pay £35 and get shitload of stuff they want (or they wouldnt have payed for if they didnt see they would wanted anything in the package) and Sony get £35 from everyone who wants it (then - the costs for all the money they lose to the publishers and devs of the content)

iPad5042d ago

The only REAL difference between Xbox LIVE and PlayStation Network is how you can connect with people on Xbox LIVE.

On Xbox LIVE, you can join peoples' sessions when they aren't your FRIENDS. You can invite them to your party even if they are NOT on your friends list. You can invite them to your Private Chat Party even if they are NOT in your friends list. You can view their friends. And that's what makes Xbox LIVE better. And in my opinion, I repeat IN MY OPINION is the selling point of Xbox LIVE.

But still, I'm not gonna pay just to play online.

tinybigman5042d ago

its optional no one is forcing you to buy it. i bought it because it makes more sense for me. no reason to bitch and moan about it.

IgnorantRabbit5042d ago

Lets see what you get from both

Deals on Weekly Bases- Both Have that
Demos- PSN+ Have 1 hour long ones that take hours to download(6.9gigs).
Patches- Takes secounds for 360 to download them even major ones. PS3 2-3 min
Online- You is free on PS3 if it wasnt i wouldnt of got it. 360 50 bucks but your online and cross game chat makes it more worth it.

I love my PS3 and I love how its free for online. But I use my 360 to talk with my friends on PS3(We all have 360's). Why? Because its convenient to talk to people as your playing another game.

For me I will not be getting Plus it is not worth it. The games that are free I could care less about. For others they love it.

Garnett5041d ago

PSN+ you get discounts, with XBLG you get superior online play.

mindedone5041d ago

Main Entry: 1tan·gi·ble
Pronunciation: \ˈtan-jə-bəl\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Late Latin tangibilis, from Latin tangere to touch
Date: 1589

1 a : capable of being perceived especially by the sense of touch : palpable b : substantially real : material
2 : capable of being precisely identified or realized by the mind <her grief was tangible>
3 : capable of being appraised at an actual or approximate value <tangible assets>
synonyms see perceptible.

So...I guess DLC and themes are tangible...

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PoSTedUP5042d ago (Edited 5042d ago )

double post, sori.

MariaHelFutura5042d ago

PSN-Free, PC-Free, XBL- $59.99.

Most 360 "exclusives" are on the PC anyways.

If you hate $$$ XBL is perfect for you.

MorganX5042d ago

12 months XBL is from $38-50 annually.

Most people who buy $300 consoles don't rely on a high-end PC that must at a minimum have a graphic card that cost that much for their gaming. This is a nonsense comparison. A console exclusive is a console exclusive.

If you love avatars and themes PS+ is for you, if you want to play any 2nd tier downloadable Sony throws at you that you can play as long as you subscribe PS+ is for you (Wipeout HD is first tier though).

PS+ has the potential to be valuable but it has to hit your wheelhouse. If it gave all RE5 DLC, i would think it was worth it (I have gold edition). It's really iffy. For $50 a year, go for it.

Free online play is great. The XBL service, social experience, and marketplace are well worth it.

Free online with PSN is cheaper, Online with XBL is better. Content is an individual preference.

DigitalRaptor5042d ago

Those who own any sort of PCs, high-end gaming or not, can download and even larger library of games for free and still go online for free. Xbox Live is barred if you download pirated games. It all balances out.

And to be fair most people with consoles have PCs or laptops too which cost a fair amount. Upgrading your PC isn't that much more, if you think about it.

MorganX5042d ago

Most people have Dells, Acers, and HPs from best buy. Only the highest end machines deliver consistent console-like gaming performance. Then there's the lack of decent wireless controllers and no offline multi-player to speak of.

If most people could upgrade their PCs we wouldn't have geek squad and all those ... people.

PC Gamers cannot go online for free. They have to have an ISP.

What library of free games are you referring to?

PoSTedUP5042d ago (Edited 5042d ago )

wtf! triple post, sori my modem is really messed up and slow and lags...

Dylantalon15042d ago

why should psn plus be like xbox live ? psn is only lacking a cross chat feature

ActionBastard5042d ago (Edited 5042d ago )

I love these. It's like people are still holding onto some made up idea PS+ was going to be Sony's answer to XBL. That's PSN's job. After renewing my XBL subscription (1 month for $1 deal on the dashboard for Silver members), I can wholeheartedly say I won't be renewing again, unless there is another $1 deal or something. Not for any reason other than I can play the games I want to play online, for free, on my PS3. And I can use Netflix without having to pay for the honor of using my already paid for subscription on the PS3.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers4d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken4d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g4d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing4d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H94d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola4d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6694d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle4d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg5d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos5d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola5d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies25d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken25d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga25d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken25d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6425d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long25d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197225d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic25d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12525d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91325d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer25d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91324d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit24d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher25d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6924d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit24d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher25d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken25d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197225d ago (Edited 25d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic25d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2325d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218325d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder25d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts25d ago

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