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Why PS3's New Tech Will Just Confuse Everyone... And Fail

A recent blog entry from DFC Intelligence - a video games industry market research firm that doesn't employ Michael Pachter - raised an interesting point on the back end of E3. Namely, that Sony is offering so many different features and peripherals that they are likely to confuse customers, rather than entice people into their PS3-shaped folds. As the blog says...

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Quagmire5067d ago

Sigh... all you can really do is say LOL.

Brewski0075067d ago

From the same folks who brought you such classics as
"PlayStation Plus – Sitting On The Fence" and
"Five Ways Kinect Can Make Core Games Better" and of course
"E3: Why it's not all bad for Microsoft"

Yeah, goodluck nowgamer.

HolyOrangeCows5067d ago

Their "Five Ways Kinect Can Make Core Games Better" article was stupid. You could also use a $5 microphone and $10 webcam and do the things they listed, as none of them would need skeletal tracking.

Dragun6195067d ago (Edited 5067d ago )

PlayStation Move Bundle = $100
- Includes The PlayStation Eye, One Move controller, and Sports Champion.

That's all they need. They can use the DS3 controller as the Navi controller.

People say it will cause confusion because they think there's too many peripherals but Nintendo been doing the same thing and it's been fine selling a Wii mote, Classic controller, Motion plus, Nunchuck, etc. Sony just needs to do the marketing right. Simply market the Bundle.

BeaArthur5067d ago

You're forgetting that some Move games require two Move controllers. I could easily seeing an uniformed consumer getting confused and ultimately frustrated enough not to buy it.

callahan095067d ago

That's not true. Maybe in the future some Move games will require 2 controllers, but as of right now, not one single game announced requires 2 controllers. Some of the games in Sports Champions are "better with 2" according to the developer, but none of them *require* 2.

Tony-A5067d ago

I can understand why someone would think that, and it may very well happen, but it's really simple when laid out.

You buy the Move bundle and that's it. Eventually, when you buy another game that happens to require another Move, you buy it. So buy the bundle and a Move. Bundle and Move. It sounds similar to (or simpler than):

Buy a Wii and MotionPlus. Or a Wii Balance Board when some games require it.

thewrathman5067d ago (Edited 5067d ago )

they make some valid points.it isnt flamebait.

look at it this way.

for the nintendo you need - a wii

for xbox you need - 1 CONSOLE and kinect

for the ps3 you need - 1 console,a camera,a move controller and a probably a nunchuck navigator x number of people playing.

its easy to understand why consumer groups would think consumers would find MOVE daunting.its a lot of bits and pieces.what am i supposed to do with all thses pieces of plastic when i not playing?

will all them bits be in 1 package when i buy it?or do i have to collect individual bits as i shop?

tedious reasons.but thats the way people look at it.then it probably needs rebranding.the wii comes in nice white and sky blue colours.kinect will be purple.very friendly,casual colours..the ps3-mean black and very serious looking.

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Wh15ky5067d ago (Edited 5067d ago )

"for the nintendo you need - a wii"

"for the ps3 you need - 1 console,a camera,a move controller and a probably a nunchuck navigator x number of people playing."

Not a very accurate comparison there wrathman. You can't do much with just a Wii. You may find that to actually play games you also need a Wiimote and a nunchuck x number of people playing, you also need to position the sensor bar above or below your TV, then there's wii motion plus to "confuse" things further.

Edit:
The set up for the PS Move is very similar to the set up for the Wii and consumers have had no problems becoming familiar with the Wii, so where's the confusion?

thewrathman5067d ago

why15sky.

last i checked..a game came with the wii and so did the controller and sensor bar.and nuchuck.

actually it includes wii motion plus and wii sports resort also. and it cost little more than an xbox elite.

Wh15ky5067d ago (Edited 5067d ago )

"for xbox you need - 1 CONSOLE and kinect

for the ps3 you need - 1 console,a camera,a move controller and a probably a nunchuck navigator x number of people playing."

Future bundles for both consoles will include these, so what's your point?

The set up for the PS Move is very similar to the set up for the Wii and consumers have had no problems becoming familiar with the Wii, so where's the confusion?

cliffbo5067d ago (Edited 5067d ago )

@thewrathman

ooooh! i`m so confused i need a wiifit,plastic gun and plastic steering wheel amd camera adddon plus extra wiimotes and nunchucks and now wiifit2 aswell and soon a finger sensor thingy OH MY GIDDY AUNT WHAT AM I GONNA DO!. lol

good job i`ve got a ps3 and can cope with all this confusion. lol

rezzah5067d ago

U forgot to add X number of people for the Wii(obviously exlcuding the controller you get) contoller and nunchuck thingy. Dont forget to include batter prices, they also offer a recargable battery pack if you dont wish to pay for a constant supply of batteries (my bro hasnt learnt his lesson from this yet).

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vhero5067d ago (Edited 5067d ago )

Nowgamer are trying to become the official no.1 360 fanboy site on the web or something?? Do we need another topic slating kinect/move/wiimote?? Can't we just wait for them to release and see what happens??

the-show-stopper5067d ago

edge still gets that title for now athough some of the smaller sites are trying to take away thier title

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dredgewalker5067d ago

Confuse the casuals? The hardcore? The casuals basically eat up everything and the hardcore already know what to expect from Move. I think the author is confused.

notmushroom5067d ago

I don't see how it will confuse anyone.

You'll either buy it or you won't. I don't think Move or Kinect for that matter will do half of what the Wii did, but it will sell decently enough.

DrDreadlox5067d ago

... for that avatar, you son of a pig! LOL

Colonel-Killzone5067d ago

Flamebait article for one. And you would have to be a complete moron with NO type of knowledge of the PS3 to get confused. Also its something called asking a question you ask someone might have a answer. Sigh lame site that want some hits.

Nugundam00795067d ago

there ARE really stupid consumers..if youve ever worked in retail than you would understand....Im not trying to insult anyone..lets just say "ignorant"

jetlian5067d ago

aren't stupid at all. kinect is 1 item and thats it. wii is 1 item . ps3 is 2-4 depending on what game your playing. And to top it off sony isn't selling all 4 together!!! just the 2 basic pieces and a game

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers25d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken24d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g25d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing25d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H925d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola25d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66925d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle25d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg25d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos25d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola25d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies46d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken46d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga46d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken46d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6445d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long45d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197245d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic45d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12546d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91346d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer46d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91345d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit45d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher46d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6945d ago (Edited 45d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit45d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher46d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken46d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197245d ago (Edited 45d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic45d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2346d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218345d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder46d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts46d ago

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