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Sucker Punch: ‘Why Do You Hate Zeke So Much?’

Continuing Play's conversations with Sucker Punch, the developer questioned why people turned on one of its favourite characters from inFamous; Zeke Dunbar.

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zootang5057d ago

I didn't like Zeke just because he was selfish and jealous, not two traits i admire.

Cloudberry5057d ago

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The way he talks & personality is annoying.

More of a burden for me (playing as Cole) in the game-story & game-play.

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Why o why5057d ago

why come to comment then....crackdown reviews are out now my friend;)

The games not lame but Zeke acted lame. Theres a reason people have wanted this sequel more than they wanted a prototype one

ElDorado5057d ago

I agree i hate these things you mentioned about him

@Conloles

You must be a fucking fanboy. Not because you don't like the game, but because of the way you talk obviously.

Reibooi5057d ago

I hated Zeke because he was annoying. He was a negative character always being somewhat jealous and that isn't exactly the kind of person you wanna like. Even after the few redeeming things he does.

On top of that the way he sounds really annoyed me. You expect him to be one of those people who snort or something every sentence and I really don't find that to be a likable kinda guy.

JoySticksFTW5057d ago

I thought Zeke was funny, but he pulls a couple of jerk moves in the game that results in "bad things"

Cloudberry nailed it

Kappa Mikey5057d ago

god i hated zeke's voice. I found it so annoying

LoVeRSaMa5056d ago

Zeke was a fat Sponge, e seemed like a user and even betrayed his friend, if given the option I would have killed him in InFamous.

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Dragun6195057d ago

Hopefully, he learned his lesson in the first one and changed his attitude for the better. InFamous 2! Day one

Also have to say this interview with Sucker Punch is building up to be awesome. Can't wait for the whole interview.

erathaol5057d ago (Edited 5057d ago )

Its not about learning his lesson, its about an action that he took deciding the faith of thousands of innocent people and by doing so he betrayed you when you needed him most. The City was going to hell, your powers were still evolving and you needed someone to look out for Trish. Eventually through your own will power you are able to help two of those things but at the expense of Trish's life.

I hate Zeke but I can deal with him in another installment of the series, I just can't get over the new voice actor. He sounds so lame and none threatening.

Spenok5057d ago

Yea he was kind of a douch, but i didnt have this malice toward him. He does try to rectify himself in the end anyways.

yoshiroaka5057d ago (Edited 5057d ago )

His accent was annoying and he never really had your back. He was a burden and just wasnt cool or funny.

Take elina or chloe from uncharted. They both had great back and forth dialogue with drake and jumped into the fire when things got hot with you.

Heck even Flynn was cool even tho he dicked you. Zeke just didnt have any charm.

DA_SHREDDER5057d ago

To the people who always bitch about game characters, why dont you make one and add em in a game? Oh thats right because you have no skill and your a arm chair journalist therefore you dont even have a clue where to begin to make a video game character. Just like Rico from Killzone 2, Zeke is just a victim of being too damn cool for you guys to understand.

yoshiroaka5057d ago (Edited 5057d ago )

Relax dude. It not like we're saying 'ZOMG Zeke is the worst character in the world sucker punch should close down and never make games again!'
We're just saying why we didnt like Zeke.

I may not be able to make my own game but i know what i like and Zeke just wasnt like-able to me. I never felt like i was or wanted to be his friend. Maybe it was because they didnt have the resources to properly portray and develop Zeke's character like they wanted (they said before in previous interviews about infamous1's tech being limited presentation-wise.)

Criticism is a good thing sometimes when i doesnt go out of control and so far from the comments i dont think it has gotten insane.
If we sat and said everythings perfect then nothing would get better.

palaeomerus5057d ago (Edited 5057d ago )

" To the people who always bitch about game characters, why dont you make one and add em in a game? "

Because I don't make games. Got any other stupid $#@$ing irrelevant questions? Does the fact that I don't make games somehow make Zeke cool or less annoying? Does that make people hate him less? Does my not being a movie director somehow make the starwars prequels good?

No?

Well, okay then.

It's nice that YOU can like sucky annoying characters and try to convince yourself that they are some kind of creative masterpiece but some of us have standards that go way the hell beyond being able to like some fatboy faux-elvis conspiracy-theory comedy relief stereotype.

Rocket Sauce5057d ago

Zeke was alright, but he makes such an out-of-left-field decision in the end of the game. It's just a really dumb twist that brings the whole game down.

People should be hating Cole's smelly pirate hooker girfriend, Trish. What a stupid bitch. He should have kicked her to the curb and gotten with the evil chick you fight in the sewer. She was hotter and a much nicer person.

Ravage275057d ago (Edited 5057d ago )

erm you know...there's a reason why Trish acted that way. Cole was somewhat responsible for her sister's death and she acted the way most people would.

I share your opinion of Zeke though. I thought he was alright till that selfish decision late into the game.

Rocket Sauce5056d ago

Cole delivered packages for a living, and one of his packages basically had a bomb in it. It blows up, crippling him and killing her sister.

Somehow, she turns this into, "Cole killed my sister."

Arrrrrghhh, I hate Trish!

pain777pas5056d ago

Zeke was the first Rico! LOL!!!!!!!!

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GeoramA5057d ago

He's written for you hate him. He's selfish and makes stupid decisions that makes Cole's life harder.

He's a lot like Rico From Killzone.

Davoh5057d ago

I'd give it to Zeke, at least with Rico you could hit him

GodsHand5057d ago

I've killed Zeke plenty of times in the game when your first start, or even zap him till he is on the ground, just turing back and forth.

Davoh5056d ago (Edited 5056d ago )

I was pretty sure you couldn't zap Zeke, although I haven't played inFamous in a while so I could be wrong.

FernandoMartinez5057d ago

I didn't realy care about Zeke LOL

Nitrowolf25057d ago (Edited 5057d ago )

I will agree with Sucker Punch
I actually liked Zeke as a character
Yes he was annoying but having in the game made it fell more of a classic hero show.
Every superhero show has some sort of person who is jealouse and annoying.
He might have not been the best character to other people, but personanly i thought he could have a lot of potential as a s character. I can see why they liked him so much

How ever his voice idk, just something about it but when i look at the character and him with that voice its a nice fit.

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The inFamous games deserve more love from Sony

The inFamous games are an important part of PlayStation history, but the series is in limbo and playing older entries isn't exactly easy.

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LucasRuinedChildhood80d ago (Edited 80d ago )

Would like remasters of 1 and 2. I enjoyed them much more than Second Son.

1 & 2 had more of an emphasis on climbing and the traversal requires a bit more effort in a good way. It was rewarding. Second Son made climbing mostly obsolete so they put little effort into it. The traversal was just great in inFamous 1 & 2. There's a reason Sunset Overdrive copied and improved upon the induction grind mechanic.

Reminds me of how I felt about the decline of parkour and the well designed tombs (basically Prince Of Persia levels) that we saw in the Assassin's Creed games.

The story and atmosphere were also much better in 1 & 2.

Electricity is just a brilliant superpower for an open world city. It perfectly fits just like webslinging does in New York and it has many applications.

Cacabunga80d ago

For sure.. one of my favorite Sony licenses

Shane Kim80d ago

Loved one and two. I actually liked the story as well.

Minute Man 72180d ago

The standalone DLC was a sweet

jznrpg80d ago (Edited 80d ago )

I enjoyed Second Son but it was too short. The first 2 were great though

-Foxtrot80d ago

Second Son was alright but didn't touch the first two games

It felt short and lacking in comparison

Also I really thought Reggie would have made a better protagonist, someone who is anti-conduit as much as him and ends up becoming one would have been interesting to see. I kind of enjoyed his character throughout the game as his development.

badz14980d ago

why is it right now, the thing I want the most from Sony is to release remasters of inFamous (1,2 & SS), KZ (1,2 & 3), Resistance (RFoM, 2 and 3) and Motorstorm (1,2 & 3)??

The_Hooligan79d ago

All great choices. I would like to add Warhawk/Starhawk to that. The multiplayer in Warhawk was amazing. I am surprised Sony hasn't looked into MAG either. That game was ahead of its time.

Maybe Sony should make an internal studio like Bluepoint games and all they do is remake/remaster these amazing games, even going back to PS1,PS2,PSP, Vita portfolio. And because of the recent articles suggesting cost cutting, budget issues and releasing more games on PC, they could do that with these remakes/remasters. Do a day one on PC and PS5. At the end of the day Sony or any other company is going to do what makes them the most money.

Kiryu199279d ago

Would love a remastered collection on PS5/PC

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kpgs80d ago

Wouldn't the onus be on the consumers? If they bought the Infamous games, then we'd have more games from that series.

KwietStorm_BLM80d ago

Infamous has sold millions of units. People have been asking for more. They aren't interested. Just like people have been asking for more Resistance or even a remaster collection, but insomniac isn't revisiting that either. Likely never getting a new sequel since they're a Marvel studio now.

LucasRuinedChildhood80d ago (Edited 80d ago )

No. Infamous was successful. But after a few entries (which are taking longer to make these days) a lot of Sony studios move on to new IPs. That's not a bad thing at all. They don't need to make inFamous games forever, just like we didn't need new Sly Cooper games forever.

But people would like to be able to easily play them on current hardware which is reasonable. Same for Killzone, Resistance, MGS4, etc. Good games shouldn't be trapped on old hardware. It's good that Bluepoint ported Uncharted 1-3.

kpgs80d ago

I'm not saying it wasn't successful. I enjoyed playing all 3 entries and DLC. But like you said, people move on, studios move on. But I don't think I've heard people asking for more Infamous in a long time.

Profchaos80d ago

The franchise was popular we got quite a few games but Suchet punch wanted to beach out I think that's why we got ghost of Tsushima over infamous 4

Tbh ghost is a fantastic game I'm not complaining about that but I'd love to see infamous handled by another team

jznrpg80d ago

Id take GoT2 over Infamous right now but after GoT2 or maybe 3 if they go trilogy I’d like a new Infamous.

badz14980d ago

that's the problem with Sony that puzzles me A LOT! they have studios specifically specialized in remastering and remaking old games for new gen hardware, but we are getting very few of them. SoTC, Uncharted collections, Demon's Souls Remake, TLoU Part 1...and?? that's it? why aren't they giving their old games new lease of life on the PS5 for the new generations of gamers to enjoy? they clearly have the expertise. for god sake, I can even accept lazy porting like Nintendo are doing for theirs if I have to.

FinalFantasyFanatic80d ago

There are a lot of games that consumers have been asking Playstation for, Playstation won't do it, so a lot of these developers have gone and made it themselves by any means possible such as Kickstarter (e.g. Armed Fantasia, Penny Blood, Ratatan, 100 Heroes, ect...). Developers have even asked if Sony could help them out with porting/remasters some of these older games for Playstation, they said no.

Crows9079d ago (Edited 79d ago )

Um...dude like you say that as if nobody bought them....the devs went on to do ghosts after 3 infamous games....3

People ask for new resistance and new infamous at every moment where it makes sense to mention it.

Having a remake of 1 and 2 would be very welcomed I'm sure.

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chicken_in_the_corn80d ago

I would love to see a new game but a feel that would get a response similar to Saints Row.

TravsVoid80d ago (Edited 80d ago )

If they keep any of the characters from the previous games I think it would do fine unlike Saints Row which decided to replace fan favorites with less likable replacements. I wouldn't be surprised if that decision caused a majority of their buyers to be new to the series rather than returning players. I will say though, if Infamous Second Son or the first two Infamous games were remade I would be a day one buyer on PC.

ocelot0780d ago

Loved all 3 of them. I couldn't get on with the vampire spin off though. Wish they didn't move away from cole but I didn't mind the other character.

DefenderOfDoom280d ago

Loved 1 and 2 , would definitely love a new INFAMOUS single player campaign.

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Sucker Punch Productions - Studio Profile | PlayStation

Meet the team at Sucker Punch Productions!

victorMaje265d ago (Edited 265d ago )

Ghost of Tsushima and SP were my 2020 goty & dev of the year.

Starman69263d ago

Christ, ghosts of Tsushima was absolute epic on ps5. Top 5 of all time for me 👍

northpaws263d ago

I need more from the Ghost's legend mode, too addicting but ran out of things to do after a few months, can't get enough of it.

MIDGETonSTILTS17263d ago

This means a new IP reveal is coming, right?

Why else educate the masses on a studio’s branding, if not to show off something that isn’t a sequel?

AdonisIsBeast263d ago

More action adventure titles in development or they actually going to dip their toes in an RPG? Tired of Sony’s formulaic titles

MIDGETonSTILTS17263d ago

I love Sony’s consistent output.

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Nixxes Software Can't Go Wrong With An Infamous Remaster

Nixxes' Remaster focus could set the stage to resurrect many obscure titles like the karma-centered, superpower-fueled sandbox of Infamous.

maniacmayhem297d ago

Infamous remaster? How about an Infamous re-Boot! This is one game that doesn't need a remaster, it needs either a proper equal of a reboot of the original. And since Sony is currently in development with Marvel, i can totally see them having guest marvel characters to appear in Cole's world.

BanginTunes296d ago

This is one of the worst things I have ever read

1Victor296d ago

I would prefer Warhawk or Starhawk ether or both will keep us fans happy for a looooooooong time

The_Hooligan296d ago

Warhawk would be awesome! So many good memories playing that game on PS3. They could do a massive 50v50 mode, battle royal with last Warhawk standing, classic 20v20 mode, so many options.

shinoff2183296d ago

I'd rather infamous. Sonys got enough online bs in the pipeline. No need to add more.

1Victor296d ago

@shinoff I disagree with you both of those games was extraordinarily fun to play just the satisfaction of transforming your plane into a bot and stomp a enemy then transform and fly off on Starhawk was a experience that hasn’t been replicated since.
The game was extremely valanced to the point you could go against a tank on foot and win with the ratchet or 1 shot a plane doing a massive attack with your tank. In Warhawk you could pick up half your team and fly them to a base and take it over but those are experiences you had to play to know how awesome those game was even YouTube videos don’t do justice to those game.
Anyways I’ll stop here or I’ll run out of words to post a wall text taking about those games

Christopher296d ago

Here's the thing, infamous and *hawk are such different games and with different audiences that Sony could... do both at the same time? Nixxes doesn't need to be involved in the shooter (that would be new for them I think since they usually do SP games) but someone else could and Nixxes could share support with development/engine needs.

shinoff2183295d ago

1victor

Ya know Christopher is right they are completly different games. Me personally I don't value online games I just don't care for them. Hell in another bubble I probably enjoy them. In this bubble nah I just prefer single player unless I'm playing Mario or Mario party with my girl and kids or something.

1Victor295d ago

@shin of course I know Chris is right but the games have to be approved first before assignment to a studio I didn’t mean this studio in particular making those game I meant the approval process and Sony harder push on MMO games.
I’m just one of the millions of players that loved those game and a top 800 word wide ranked on Starhawk and proud owner of its platinum trophy

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DankSinatra296d ago

A remaster would allow people who don't have access to a ps3 to experience the game since there's so many stuck on the ps3 that are exclusive to the console and Sony refuses to invest in backwards compatibility

darthv72296d ago

Who doesnt have access to a ps3? There were over 87m of them sold. They are cheap and easy to find. Just like wii and ps2.

shinoff2183296d ago

Or maybe it's just not ready yet, ps3 was a different kinda animal.

DankSinatra295d ago

@darthv72

Not everyone is willing to go out and buy a ps3 for a single game or a handful of games when they have a ps4 or a ps5. A port or remaster would actually help. Younger audiences who did not grow up with a ps3 would have exposure to these games that Sony has essentially left behind on the ps3 due to them not investing in backwards compatibility. If they would do backwards compatibility then we wouldn't need to shill out more money for the same games. Something I actually applaud microsoft for (the only thing they have done that's good).

zaanan295d ago

Agree, and PS3 is getting long in the tooth, so failure rates will be going up. I had to send my slim in for repair years ago.

shinoff2183295d ago

I had a couple extra dollars and came across I guy selling ps3s for 50. I bought all 4. Just felt it was a good deal. Now if I could find controllers. I swear I can't find any cheap controllers around me

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jeromeface296d ago

go back to marvel avengers, sounds like more your cup of tea

KwietStorm_BLM296d ago

You know what, now that I think about it.. yeah none of that makes any sense.

TheKingKratos295d ago (Edited 295d ago )

Lol 😂😂😂

Christopher296d ago

Yes to a reboot, absolutely no to Marvel characters in it.

maniacmayhem296d ago

*either a proper equal of a reboot of the original. *

Damn, there needs to be an extension on the Edit feature.

"Either a proper sequel or a reboot of the original"

And people aren't with Cole interacting with cameos from Marvel? Especially with Sony making Spider Man and Wolverine?

Why exactly would that be a bad idea? Especially with the multiverse being a huge deal and all.

Christopher296d ago

***Why exactly would that be a bad idea? Especially with the multiverse being a huge deal and all.***

There's enough Marvel. Let's not spread it everywhere and let other IPs be their own thing. Please.

neutralgamer1992295d ago

Infamous 1-2 collection would be amazing on current generation. God of War 1-2 and PSP games also playable on PS5 Yes please. And last but not least MGS4

There are so many great games which are on PS3. We need them to be remastered and released for current generation.

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GoodGuy09297d ago

Idk why sony hasn't done remasters for 1+2 yet. Such great gems.

RaidenBlack297d ago

I'd like a Killzone 2 Remaster.
Keep the visuals style as is ... just improve the LoD and the resolution

ArchangelMike296d ago

Now that COD is in Microsofts back pocket, it's time for Sony to start investing in it's own 1st party shooters. I loved Killzone - even Shadowfall. But Yeah Killzone 2 was the high point of the Franchise.

ClayRules2012296d ago

Yes. KZ2 was the high point of the franchise and a strong, solid and just bloody fantastic shooter! Had so much fun those days with the game.

Neonridr296d ago (Edited 296d ago )

Shadowfall was my first introduction into the series as the PS4 was my first Sony console. Maybe compared to the others it was not great (personally I don't know), but I had a blast playing it and found it quite enjoyable. I'd love a Trilogy Remaster though so I could go back and enjoy the original 3 for the first time (with a new coat of paint + updated controls)

shinoff2183296d ago

Naw were good. There's plenty in the sea

zaanan295d ago

It’s about damn time for a Resistance trilogy remaster!

long-time-gamer295d ago

Most def the highest point of the franchise, the music, gameplay and story was awesome

ironmonkey295d ago

absolutely right! killzone has been quiet long enough since ps4 release date.

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long-time-gamer295d ago

man id love a killzone 2 remaster, its one of my favorite games of all time, but who knows what shape that code in and where its at, prob wont happen under jim ryan though! you can keep your fingers crossed though and see what happens but GG is all about Horizon now

Vits297d ago

There is a lot of the PS3 era that I would love to see ported/remastered. But, unfortunately, they are probably not commercially viable and I have no idea who owns the rights currently. Stuff like Sire: Blood Curse, White Knight Chronicles, Tokyo Jungle, Folklore, etc.

Infamous on the other hand was never a series that I found good or interesting. Especially when compared with other contemporaries like Prototype. But, given how bare the subgenre is right now, I would dig a remaster.

BehindTheRows296d ago

Sony owns Siren. I can’t speak for the rest.

As for inFAMOUS vs Prototype, I feel the opposite. inFAMOUS mopped the floor with it, quality and gameplay. Just felt far more polished. That said, I enjoyed Prototype’s powers a little more.

Vits296d ago

Fair enough, I agree that the production values of inFamous were higher. But I found it to be a snore-fest.

darthv72296d ago

...no meed. Sony could add ps3 support to the 5 and then people can play loads of games already available. No streaming required. Rpcs3 could be adapted to run on the 5... it would solve so many problems.

Vits296d ago

No need, because they instead could do these two other things that they have shown no interest in doing? Sure.

Shane Kim296d ago

But then they couldnt charge you for remaster (even though I would love one for infamous) or charge you for PSN premium.

darthv72296d ago

It would be even funnier if the series x gets rpcs3 support and can play the ps3 games while ps5 still cannot (not without streaming them)

shinoff2183295d ago

Don't most people still have issues with rpcs3. It's not as stable as alot of emulators out there. From what I've read

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zaanan295d ago

My kids and I had a fun time in Tokyo Jungle!

long-time-gamer295d ago

prototype def was not on the same level as infamous far as gameplay or graphics

Pocahontas295d ago

It was legitimately bad game.

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isarai296d ago

Infamous, Resistance, and killzine are so ripe for a remaster, I wish Sony would make it happen.

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