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PlayStation Plus is doomed to fail

As of now, if this is Sony's big answer to Xbox Live then god help PS3 owners.

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omodis4205072d ago ShowReplies(20)
Myst5072d ago

Didn't they say they'd add more things? Aren't people getting free games? Discounted prices? How long has it been out? Seriously an article like this I'd expect a few months later not this soon. Plus this was never seen as the answer to PSN. Most people already saw PSN as being the answer in and of itself being that you can play online without having to pay [which most people scream it seems].

Rome was not built in a day and therefore Playstation plus will not be great in a day.

The_Zeitgeist5072d ago

I hear your point. But you have to agree with me that they should have offered better stuff than this for the launch. People see this and most are like, "meh".

Myst5072d ago

I agree the first day isn't great, heck first day of almost anything online related was never great. This is no exception. They are more than likely testing the water with various things to see what sells more despite what people ask for. As sometimes the case of asking for it people may not buy it, therefore test with variety and pin-point what will sell.

And if anyone replies I won't say anything about Cross chat :p.

Philaroni5072d ago

It all depends, its very rare for anything to have an amazing launch line up. Even when XBL first started the only game that supported it was the first Mechassalut. Then over the years it became what it is now. People though XBL was crazy and going to fail as well keep in mind. I like what PS+ is doing so far being more of a content vs feature driven service, at, least for now. Also its is very much an option at this point so I see no need for people to really comment on how well or bad they think it will do as if you do not have it, what dose it matter to you?

Qui-Gon Jim5072d ago

You don't just get this month's stuff, you get that, then every month you get more, and you get to keep all of it for as long as your subscription is going. For the last month of a one year subscription, you could conceivably have 48 free games on your hard drive, a bunch of themes and avatars, plus have gotten discounts on more. Then you can renew and get more.

barom5072d ago (Edited 5072d ago )

Didn't they say this about the Playstation 3? And then Playstation Network? And then Playstation Home?

Can't say these "<insert something> will fail" articles have been right on any occasion.

playnation5072d ago

you sr. are a fanboy and should stop writing articles.
you are just saying what you think, not facts and that's called a comment and for comments this is the area, thanks. ;)

PshycoNinja5071d ago

TEH DOOOOOMZ!

Seriously dont these get old after a while. -_-'

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Nathaniel_Drake5072d ago

I agree, they did say they will add more content later on. It already pays for itself for PS3 new owners. People always have higher expectations with Sony seeing as their other consoles were successful, so they are disappointed when day 1 of PSN plus doesn't deliver what they wan't. Just takes time though, it's not like there is a drought of games on the system

Biggunz5072d ago

Typical examiner "news article". I liked this part: "There are no dedicated servers for a better online gaming experience."...Does this clown believe that Live offers dedicated gaming servers?

Luzce5071d ago

Why get all worked up about another non-article? Who cares what this non-reporter has to say anyways?

But yeah... I'll keep my free online gaming. THX!

Myst5072d ago

I just noticed something I said this was never seen to to be the answer to PSN when I meant XBL :p.

vhero5072d ago

Doomed to fail lol half my friends list has it already I would say that's a big success not even half my 360 friends list on 360 are gold members. Sure its new so they are gonna try it but.. Wait I am not gonna repeat myself to why its great value. Sick of doing so we all know if MS added online gaming to Xbox Live Silver package which is free nobody would buy gold. That is why Playstation plus is better I don't have to give reasons. Take away online play from Xbox live gold and its a nothing service. They don't even compare in terms of value.. Nobody would pay £50 a year for cross game chat alone..

Alex Kidd5072d ago

Its impossible for it to fail! its taken nothing away

Raz5072d ago

Nuri's nailed it. They're just getting it online - all the bells and whistles will be added later. This is Sony's M.O; look at how they approached Home, for example.

That isn't to say I think it's going to be an XBL killer - I'm highly skeptical about the viability of PSPlus, but even I know not to expect too much too soon.

nycredude5072d ago

Why the fuck do I need god to help me as a ps3 owner? This is not release to combat Live only fantards think this. This is merely a service that is optional for those who want. If you don't pay for it guess what nothing changes. Examiner is grasping for Straws. Besides I see alot of people on my friends list that bought in and I am willing to bet that by this time next year most will have it. As proof by xbox live people will pay for extra service and seem case just to play online.

irepbtown5071d ago

I agree, but if for example i pay 90 day Playstation Plus, and not enough stuff have been out, then i will complain.
But yeah, it is too soon to say. I might get it next year, by then i think it will be HOT HOT HOT.

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jemarval5072d ago

Any d*ck can post crap in this examiner.com site. Lately, All Ive seen from them is flame bait pseudo-articles full of fanboy crap.

ALFAxD_CENTAURO5072d ago

The Author of this article just got Owned.

GrandTheftZamboni5072d ago

I agree. I miss those days when most of Examiner articles were from that Asian dude and Matty Furtado...

sikbeta5071d ago (Edited 5071d ago )

@The Author and "contributor"

You Wish... doesn't mean it's going to happen, sorry, but at least you're trying....

TheTeam065072d ago (Edited 5072d ago )

If this is a flaimbait response to the "Kinect is doomed to fail" article from an Examiner writer and you know it, clap your hands!

*clap clap*

If you're not really a gamer, disagree!

haha, you disagree-ers aren't gamers. You should get out.

Brewski0075072d ago

All you gotta do is look at the mugshot of the guy who wrote it. He looks like a big faggy fanboy anyways. This is just a crappy vent. I plan to get it when i have the money.

BenCrazy4245072d ago

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM EEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers26d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken25d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g26d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing26d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H926d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola25d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66925d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle25d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg26d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos26d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola26d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies46d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken46d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga46d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken46d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6446d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long46d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197246d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic46d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12546d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91346d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer46d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91346d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit46d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher46d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6946d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit46d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher46d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken46d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197246d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic46d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2346d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218346d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder46d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts46d ago

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